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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 11:18pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
Janosky: Go and respond to GardenofGod challenge to post Heb 1:8 in your Greek interlinear. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 11:20pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
Janosky: John 5:23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. Seems Jehovah does permit polytheism |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 11:22pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
Janosky: So going by your logic angels are co-creators |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 11:25pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
Janosky: Oh so now wisdom is not a person ....but wisdom becomes a person in proverbs 8 abi...continue lying 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Hismasterpiece(m): 11:31pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
freshboi88: Don't mind them. They don't think for themselves. They let watch tower society think for them. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:58pm On Aug 30, 2021 |
freshboi88:Luke 7:34-35 !’ 34The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a man, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and of sinners!’ 35And wisdom was justified by all her children. The context is different , Proverbs 8:22-29 proven to be the events about Creation. Luke 7:34-35 is NOT related to Proverbs 8:22-29 Fresh WAILER lacks SENSE. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:00am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Proverbs 8:22-29 is unrelated to Luke 7:34-25. Luke 7:34-35 study your Bible and stop DECEIVING yourself. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:05am On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88: Job 38 American Standard Version 38 Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; For I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?Declare, [a]if thou hast understanding. 5 Who determined the measures thereof, [b]if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon were the [c]foundations thereof [d]fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?" How many co Creators did Jehovah mention @Job 38:1-7? How many co Creators did your own Bible mention @ 1 Corinthians 8:6? How many co Creators did your Bible mention @ Hebrews 1:2? @ Job 38:1-7 & Psalms 33:6, Hebrews 1:2, and 1 Corinthians 8:6, do you believe the CREATOR ? |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:08am On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88: Bros, go and change Hebrew Masoretic Text. "Thy throne given of God" Thereafter, delete Luke 1:31-32 and Rev 3:21 from your Bible. Fresh WAILER lacks SENSE. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:07am On Aug 31, 2021 |
So if you believe the highlighted then what are you doing now? After all you admitted that there are doctrinal issues in the early Churches, why do you want to kill yourself over doctrinal issues nah? Keep deceiving yourselves! If you're sincere that differences in doctrines is normal then you have no tangible reason complaining about contradictions or difference in doctrines! freshboi88: |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 5:25am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Janosky: U said only Jehovah is ho theos...so take a snap shot of your own NWT Greek interlinear MuMu 2 Likes |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 5:48am On Aug 31, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: To show that it's normal to have doctrinal issues n doctrinal issues has its root in scripture. So u can shut up about it |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 5:51am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Janosky: You are too dull to see your own contradiction. Your brother just said YHWH was referring to the angels when he said let us make man. Thereby making them co-creators. Since u have disproved that using Job, so who is the us he was referring to ? |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:03am On Aug 31, 2021 |
So if you're sure it's scriptural then coming on social media to talk about doctrinal issues as if it's a crime on the path of those who aren't in agreement with you or others makes you a confused miscreant! freshboi88: |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 7:59am On Aug 31, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: But u r the one who claims oh u JWs are united n Christians are segregated by doctrinal issues. Our segregation is rooted in scripture. But your unity is demonic not scriptural 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by sagenaija: 8:56am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Janosky, You quoted Job 38: Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel By words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man; For I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it? Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof, When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:1-7 ASV See Hebrews 1:10 but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of thy hands: Hebrews 1:8-10 ASV Did you see that according to verse 10 the Son laid the foundation of the earth? Can you link it to Job 38? I know that you are good at linking verses. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Hismasterpiece(m): 10:05am On Aug 31, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse Just answer this one question and let this argument die. Who was God referring to when He said, 'Let Us mae man in Our Image, according to Our Likeness'? Gen 1:26 Please answer this question in all honesty and let this argument about the trinity die. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 10:53am On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88: The disagreement between Paul and Barnabas, the conduct of Peter and the reproof Paul gave to him was not as a result of doctrinal issues. When it came to doctrines, all the Christians were required to obey & feed on what the apostles prepared. Acts 2:42, 15:6-29 As for the highlighted, the same Paul and Peter you’re mentioning, wrote the following Scriptures: 1Corinthians 1:10 “Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought” 1Peter 3:8 “Finally, all of you have unity of mind, fellow feeling, brotherly affection, tender compassion, and humility.” Heck, even their oga made this petition to God at John 17:20-23 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.” From the highlighted in Jesus’ prayer, if unity cannot be seen amongst you people claiming Christians, it then means you’re denying the fact that Jesus was sent by God! So remind us again how your doctrinal differences in your churches is supported by Scripture? Moreover, I’ve never seen anytime in history where Satan was an advocate for unity and love(John 10:10) in fact amongst God’s people, everything must be carried out decently and in arrangement because Jehovah is not an author of confusion(1Corinthians 14:33,40) therefore God’s people are to be united when it comes to doctrine. Ephesians 4:1-5 But you mean to say now that God is for disunity and confusion while Satan is for unity abi? Just hear yourself and see how stupid you sound! 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:08am On Aug 31, 2021 |
DappaD:There is church traditional doctrine and there is Bible foundation doctrine All believers back then and now are united on Bible foundation doctrine Which is do this in the name of the father the son the holy spirit this is where trinity comes from.. Now each church can differ in church traditional doctrine that where the Apostle differ on so note the difference Now JW have left the Bible foundation doctrine and started to worship organizational doctrines and then they claim Jesus is an angel and holy spirit is just a force this are twisted doctrine which is from the devil Now what is church tradition doctrines they are examples Should women wear trousers Should we eat meat or not Should we do only Saturday church or not Etc...... Is water baptism sprinkled or immersion Can a second pastor that failed to do his job be placed in a new position just like what separated Paul and Barnabas which made the holy spirit intervene and asked them to separate Many things are under church tradition doctrines which each church can chose the ones they want so as to move the main thing God called each one to do which is do this things in the name of the father the son the holy spirit Matthew 28:19 New International Version Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, New Living Translation Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. English Standard Version Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Berean Study Bible Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88:You're deceiving yourselves because Jesus prayed for his true followers to have the same line of thought! John 17:20-23 Therefore it's either you don't understand what you quoted to support segregation or you're saying Jesus' prayer was ignored! But your unity is demonic not scripturalAbout unity! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; Philippians 2:2 Perhaps Jesus and Apostle Paul were confused to have emphasized so much about UNITY! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:27am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Go and worship your TRINITY! But if you're truly interested in knowing what i have in mind then you have to be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7-8 Hismasterpiece: 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 11:28am On Aug 31, 2021 |
So which one does Trinity fall under? Church traditional doctrine or Bible foundation doctrine? Because whichever it is, there is still that mire of confusion that springs up whenever Trinity is mentioned in any gathering. Just the other day at work, some colleagues of mine were in a debate about the nature of God, one said God is mystery that you will need to see him first to know who he is, another said that God was an office that sends out one part of himself to do stuff. All these gibberish without Scriptural evidence yet there were okay arguing amongst themselves but when me the Witness wanted to chip in, that was when they demanded that I use the scriptures to explain who the true God was. So according to Jesus, if there is no unity regarding doctrine amongst you and your brethren in your church, then it simply means you’re denying that Jesus was sent by God. John 17:23 Bishopkingsley: 2 Likes |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:35am On Aug 31, 2021 |
DappaD: Funny question if you read Bible well you will see trinity (not the word but the 3 persons Jesus named) in this verse You should know it under Bible foundation doctrine This is the foundation of Jesus Christ This is the reason God revealed Jesus to humanity What next did Jesus do he then revealed holy spirit to humanity too, the same way the father did Jesus equally did Do this in the name of the father the son the holy spirit.... This is where we coin the word trinity if you don't like to call it trinity then call it it complete name The Father The son The holy spirit Matthew 28:19 ► New International Version Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, New Living Translation Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. English Standard Version Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Berean Study Bible Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 2 Likes |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 12:00pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: They emphasized unity because they knew human prejudices would always rear it's ugly head just as it was in the days of the apostles. The unity been taught n prayed for was a unity in diversity. This is something u and ur ilks would never understand. 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 12:02pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
Therefore since Exodus 3:15 mentioned that Jehovah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it means they’re all the same person? Jesus also made the following statements: Matthew 24:36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” John 14:28b “The Father is greater than I am.” Yet you claim Jesus is the same as the Father? Mr Kingsley, please do your best to instill your teachings into the minds of awitness41, PeaceJoyLove and Nancy2020 because as it seems you’re having a hard time establishing your dominance around them. Meanwhile, when you come across the moniker “DappaD”, just forget about trying to put up an argument because I don’t even read long epistles that have no meaning to me. Bishopkingsley: 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 12:04pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
DappaD: Lair...u claim you are followers of Jehovah. Do u honor Jehovah ? |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Nancy2020(f): 12:07pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
DappaD:I believe in Trinity I believe Jesus is God Almighty and holy spirit is God Almighty so why are you acting like I have ever refused to believe something that catholic and many other Christians churches declare and what is in the Bible. 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 12:12pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Good for you! What is the name of your church ma’am? I would appreciate if Mr Kingsley would also mention his, so we can clarify if you’re all one in agreement. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:13pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
Nancy2020:Go & convince your Trinity friends, Freshboi88 & Bishop LIENUS that your Mary is the mother of God. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:15pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88: “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23 Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10 "Unity in diversity" Please enlighten me more on this unity in diversity! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 12:16pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
freshboi88:Greek John 4:24 "the God is a spirit" Is one God "THEY"? Trinity robbed your SENSE full time. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:21pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
DappaD: Call awitness41, PeaceJoyLove and Nancy2020.... All of them will kindly tell you that Jesus is God Almighty Exodus 3:15 mentioned that Jehovah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it means they’re all the same person? God of Abraham =one God God of Isaac =one God God of Jacob =one God What is the common factor here God Meaning same God been the God of all those three different men In Matthew Jesus was pointing out how God reveal the father the son, the holy spirit as one that same God We have explained how the father is greater than I came about because we have said Jesus is a complete man and complete God Almighty When you hear how God hide himself in Jesus what do you think the Bible is talking about it about God making sure that the body he prepared to use will actually be lower in everything as relate to the father position Note immediately Jesus was glorified you can see God restore to him his former glory and equally made his name above every name in the universe both in heaven and earth I can explain more if you want |
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