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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by NairaMaster1(m): 8:07am On Sep 06, 2021
dheilaw1:
PDP won't come back to power even with northern and southern candidate combined

You're still dreaming of I S L A M A B A D taliban style in Nigeria?
If APC rule us for another four years you will even denounce Islam.
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Winters23: 8:07am On Sep 06, 2021
grin
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by PrinceOfLagos: 8:07am On Sep 06, 2021
Same applies to APC
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by HenryThegreat1(m): 8:07am On Sep 06, 2021
What's the difference between President from Northern abstraction and South West abstraction?
Since South West believe they are only geo political region in the southern Nigeria so be it.
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by kestolove95(m): 8:10am On Sep 06, 2021
I don comot body for nigeria political matter
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by focus7: 8:10am On Sep 06, 2021
PDP never care about the south
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by onuman: 8:12am On Sep 06, 2021
Antoeni:
From 1999 to 2015 the Nigerian Constitution was perfect.

As soon as the PDP lost elections it became the worst constitution in the world.

Before 2015, Nigeria's federalism was perfect.

As soon as the PDP lost elections Nigeria's federalism became "untrue".

Since then the PDP and their foot soldiers have been moving around with torchlights in the daytime looking for "true" federalism.

PDP sought for TRUE FEDERALISM all the time it was in power. OBJ government had National Political Reforms Conference to restructure Nigeria politically. North botched the conference with its over bloated political representation in the conference.


PDP government led by GEJ had a National CONFAB to restructure the country. It was successful. APC unfortunately won election and refused to implement the recommendations of the CONFAB.

Stop lying. North does not want TRUE FEDERALISM.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by tempest01(m): 8:12am On Sep 06, 2021
divinehand2003:


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/09/06/why-pdp-may-lose-all-southern-states-if-it-zones-presidency-to-north/


This is a naïve write up. The constitution does not say power should rotate between north and south. It was a gentleman's agreement.
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Jonathan39: 8:13am On Sep 06, 2021
Don't mind them, both APC and PDP will pick a Northern Candidate.
NairaMaster1:
All southern states?

You can assume SW states but as for the SS and SE you are extremely wrong.

By and large, what made you think APC will zone their ticket to the south?

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Cyberterror: 8:15am On Sep 06, 2021
Thisday why are you giving PDP expo na? They are a dull party with dull supporters, just allow them fold up in peace.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by lanocconsulting: 8:15am On Sep 06, 2021
How about we do away with both PDP and APC and gun for some breathe of fresh air
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by eldoradoxx: 8:15am On Sep 06, 2021
I have been saying the same thing. The worst decision PDP will make is to go North for Presidential candidate after 8 years of Buhari. PDP should measure the sentiment of voters across the entire 17 Southern States and Middle Belt region. If PDP goes North and APC goes South for presidential ticket, APC wins without need to campaign. South is not ready for another 8 years of nepotistic Northern leadership that has taken everybody back by 20 years.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by spiritedtete: 8:17am On Sep 06, 2021
Jonathan39:
Don't mind them, both APC and PDP will pick a Northern Candidate.

You are very wrong... APC is bringing someone from the south.. 100% fact. And if that happens will the other party filled someone North PDP will fall woefully.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Taye4j: 8:17am On Sep 06, 2021
If PDP likes, let it zone it's Presidential ticket to Chad. All I know is that they are not winning the Presidential seat come 2023.

I don't know who thinks for that party. After all the madness they have done over the years and the current situation and mood of the people, they still believe it's realizable to zone the presidency to the North - they are jokers !

Any party that zones the presidency to the South has over 50 percent chance of winning. Infact, nobody in the South cares where the candidate comes from as long as he/she is a Southerner. Any attempt to do against this means failure.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Ellasure: 8:22am On Sep 06, 2021
Atiku should spare PDP a loss in 2023. He is a fulani person and currently the whole country people are tired of fulani presidency.

He is not a listening person, he was not subservient enough under Obasanjo presidency otherwise he should have proceeded straight to atiku presidency but he was not subservient enough, simplicita.

He should use his wealth and experience to groom a southern Nigerian native person to become president.

Southerners of southern Nigerian states let us speak the language they understand in the northern Nigeria. We don't need a northern Nigeria person presidency in 2023 painted in the colours of a benevolent president. That is pure foolery.


There are many young vibrant personalities of southern Nigerian natives origin that can run the affairs of Nigeria safely, business like, military suavity, excellent world view and international relations experience.

To name a few, fayemi of ekiti, wike of rivers state, okowa of Delta state, Donald Duke of cross river state, fashola of Lagos state, amaechi of rivers state, just to mention a view.


Can the northern Nigeria people present a list of educated and political jobbers of the calibre mentioned above.

It is time to say STOP to slavery of the south to a less focus northern Nigeria.

The northern Nigeria governors are currently focused on islamic religion and islamic clerical politicks.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by 24brains(m): 8:23am On Sep 06, 2021
Until nigerians learn to run a government devoid of tribalism, ethnicity and religion imbroglio, they may continue to suffer.

Your person dey there no means say he go remember you. Ask goodluck jony why even his very own people fought him out of power.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by NairaMaster1(m): 8:24am On Sep 06, 2021
Jonathan39:
Don't mind them, both APC and PDP will pick a Northern Candidate.

Exactly
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by oweman: 8:35am On Sep 06, 2021
Head or tail PDP shall loose even if thetiketisgiventodouuth east no primary as APC is surely wining south west over90% and the north over 70 % for sure this are non negotiable !
PDP can take iboland 1+10% with thier less than ten percent % toal votes .the siuth east should begin to amend thier towards 2031 election or forget it .

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Ellasure: 8:38am On Sep 06, 2021
Atiku vice presidency made Obasanjo presidency lost focus and concentration on establishment of the current political experience, he has therefore lost his opportunity to rule.

Besides him, two other fulani persons have come to the Nigerian presidency. He should not hold PDP hostage by his unguarded ambitions which is more of a spill over of his personal frustrations due to his uncooperative or lack of understanding of his principal as at the time of his vice presidency.

Osinbajo and sambo Namadi have demonstrated how true vice presidency should work.

The fulani people never respect Nigerian natives in government positions and do not respect the people they rule. Atiku will not be different once in political power. Atiku should stop his PDP campaign to give way to his personal person to proceed to the southern presidency.

Nigeria today needs a southern presidency. Anything short of that will generate serious discontentment and frictions that could lead to disintegration of Nigeria state.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Jonathan39: 8:38am On Sep 06, 2021
Don't worry, time will tell.
spiritedtete:


You are very wrong... APC is bringing someone from the south.. 100% fact. And if that happens will the other party filled someone North PDP will fall woefully.
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by emperor863(m): 8:50am On Sep 06, 2021
NairaMaster1:
All southern states?

You can assume SW states but as for the SS and SE you are extremely wrong.

By and large, what made you think APC will zone their ticket to the south?

APC has given its ticket to the south west since 2014 hut it is only for the politically deft to know. The next president of the country is a Yoruba man.

Take that to the Bank.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Blackdisciple(m): 8:59am On Sep 06, 2021
That's how they brought Atiku ....
Mumu southerners....

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by ikenna44: 9:07am On Sep 06, 2021
you never begin cry!

fasho01:
They'd cease to exist as a party if they make such a treacherous move
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Iliya1520: 9:11am On Sep 06, 2021
The thing is always joking me, when southerners claiming for presidency. One key reality about southern province in this country, they yet not made themselves the same. I means that they have a strong differences within themselves, because this issue of southwest, southeast, and southsouth of the south that they can't overcome it, will not let them to provide president there.
As u can see that always southeast not want power to be in southwest, likewise the same with southwest.

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by wink2015(m): 9:30am On Sep 06, 2021
•Delta, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Oyo vulnerable to APC take over

•Party still weak in most Northern, Middlebelt states, unlikely to make appreciable gains

There is a high possibility that the main opposition Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) might pick its presidential candidate for the 2023 general election from the North, as stakeholders are set to zone the chairmanship position of the party to the South in a matter of weeks.

This, however, appears contrary to the survey by the THISDAY Economic Intelligence Group (EIG), which gleaned from the field that the decision could cost PDP the elections in practically all the southern states, the presidency and governorship inclusive.

Findings also revealed that the PDP might not make any appreciable gains in the north and Middlebelt states either, as the All Progressives Congress (APC), is still likely to sweep the north even with a Southern candidate.

One key reality of the current state of play is that the PDP is still vulnerable in many northern states, including the ones it currently controls and the ones it doesn’t. The party might, however, lose states like Taraba, Benue and unable to win back Plateau, if it decided to zone presidency to the north.

At centre of the war of attrition over the chairmanship of the party lies the desperate permutations of where the party zones its presidential ticket to. The Southerners, who want Secondus out, want him out to pave the way for a replacement from the north, while the northern group led by Atiku and co, wants him to either stay or be replaced by another southerner to solidify their push for the presidential ticket to be zoned to the north.

In the south, the particularly vulnerable key states that the PDP is likely to lose are Delta, Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Oyo, if the ruling APC played smart by zoning its presidential ticket to the South. Such a move, findings showed, could give the APC a sweeping momentum in the countdown to the 2023 elections that would see it maintaining its hold on power.

According to the THISDAY EIG survey, “If the PDP zones the Presidency to the North, they are likely to lose all their current Southern states, essentially, because of the mood in the South that Nigeria’s Presidency should rotate between the North and the South.

“Most Southerners believe that, for equity, balance, cohesion, security and stability of the union, the next president should come from the Southern part of Nigeria, after Buhari would have completed eight years in 2023. To propose otherwise is almost an anathema among the political class and even among the average southerner.

“It is that mood of the southern people that was reflected, when 17 southern governors met and asked that the president should go to the South. Right now, Southern leaders are so united that they don’t want to be divided on the issue and don’t mind where in the south the president comes from – whether from the South-east, South-south or South-west.

“They are of the view that it is in the collective interest of the entire south to produce the next president. They believe all southern people should be entitled to run and whoever gets the ticket from the region would be accepted.

“This is actually the undercurrent in the crisis over Uche Secondus’ chairmanship in PDP, which has pitted Governor Nyesom Wike against Secondus, with many southern governors silently supporting Wike’s position, believing that if Secondus retains the chairmanship of the party after the convention, the Presidency would automatically go to the North, which they don’t want. Wike’s attempt to force Secondus out is supported by most of the southern PDP governors, albeit quietly.”

The survey further gathered that, “Many of them (governors) are looking to people like Makarfi as a possible chairman of the party after Secondus.

However, to counter them, the northern group with presidential bid led by a former Vice President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar; for President of the Senate, Bukola Saraki; Sokoto State Governor, Aminu Tambuwal; and his Bauchi State counterpart, Bala Muhammed, supported tacitly by Senator Rabiu Kwankwaso, a former Kano State governor, want the South to produce the next PDP chairman, even after Secondus, so that the presidency could be in the North.”

To achieve this, the northern group has engaged individuals, like the Chairman of Daar Communications, Dr. Raymond Dokpesi, and others, who are also seeking to be vice president, from the South, to start speaking in support of the northern PDP members’ agenda.

From the analysis of the survey, if the trajectory of the country was reviewed from 1960, the North has produced more presidents, and in the 1999 Constitution, there is an agreement that for the survival of the country, power must rotate between North and South.

It was based on these undercurrents, that the THISDAY EIG carried out a survey, as it has always done since 1999, where it noticed that in each of the PDP states in the South, PDP was likely to lose the governorship with a northern presidency, given the overwhelming move in the South for a president from the region.

That momentum, from all indications, might therefore lead to the loss of states likes Cross River (the governor has already defected), Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta, Abia, Enugu and Oyo.

Currently, there would not be an election in Edo next year. However, Obaseki, although a PDP governor, the survey showed, is a firm believer in the southern presidency.

The southern governors believe that for the survival of the PDP post-2023, power has to move down South.

According to the survey, the factors in each of the critical southern states, with seeming PDP influence, painted scenarios peculiar to them.

In Cross River, for instance, even though the governor has defected to the ruling APC, the state is predominantly PDP. But the governor, Professor Ben Ayade, the survey showed, would get momentum and defeat Liyel Imoke and Donald Duke – two former governors combined – if PDP chose a northern president and APC settled for a southern presidential candidate. This, the survey added, could make the governor take the state deeper into APC.

The Akwa Ibom situation is not quite different, according to the survey. While the governor, Udom Emmanuel, is by every measure considered to be doing well, a northern presidential candidate as the PDP standard bearer, would be a hard sell for him and could lose the state to other forces, such as the current APC National Secretary, Senator James Akpanudoedehe, and the Minister of Niger Delta, Senator Godswill Akpabio, who would use federal incumbency to sweep PDP away.

Rivers, a crucial PDP state, might easily slip the way of former Governor Chibuike Amaechi, who is currently the Minister of Transportation, and effectively dislodging Governor Nyesom Wike, should the party embrace a northern presidential candidate. The state is already 50-50 for both leading parties and the APC has federal might to its advantage.

Bayelsa State is even more vulnerable, because despite the misgivings about the APC governorship candidate, David Lyon, who won by a majority of the public votes in the last election, the party still won. But the PDP only came in through the court. However, with the current Minister of State for Petroleum Resources, Timipre Sylva, and huge federal forces and privileges, APC would just replay the card it played the last time, if the APC put forward a southern candidate and PDP went North.

From Delta’s axis, there’s no debating the fact that Governor Ifeanyi Okowa is popular, especially, based on his performance record. But in the face of a southern candidate for APC and a northern candidate for PDP, his popularity would not save his party.

The party would most likely be swept out by the combined forces of the Deputy Senate President, Ovie Omo-Agege, and the Minister of State for Labour, Festus Keyamo, as well as others in the APC. With federal support, they would dislodge the PDP in Delta and sweep Okowa away, should the PDP present a northern president.

This scenario also applies to Oyo, being PDP’s only state in the South-west, where Governor Seyi Makinde, is surrounded by counterparts from the ruling party. In fact, survey showed he is hugely disadvantaged.

The survey, nonetheless, from the permutations that came out during PDP’s 92nd National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting some weeks ago, there were indications that the party might actually zone its presidential ticket to the North and the office of the national chairman to the South.

As a result of this, the governors of the party from the North, believed to have presidential interest, have begun to jostle to ensure the emergence of a national chairman that would be disposed to their aspiration.

A former military governor of Lagos State and later civilian governor of Osun State, Col. Olagunsoye Oyinlola, for instance, is said to be the favourite of many of the bigwigs, should the incumbent, Secondus, decide not to re-contest in the October 30th and 31th national convention in Abuja.

Secondus, in a statement, had stated that his tenure as the national chairman would end on December 9 2021, because he was elected on December 9, 2017, and sworn in same day.

Regardless, the embattled national chairman had recently debunked rumours that he had resigned from his position.

A statement by his Special Adviser on Media, Mr. Ike Abonyi, dismissed the report as untrue, but he contended that he was merely obeying an interim court order at the time.

He added that as a law-abiding citizen, who had been an adherent of the rule of law as a basis for democracy, he had to stay away as a form of respect for the courts.

The offices of the national chairman of the PDP and other members of the National Working Committee (NWC) are guaranteed four-year term.

Officially, PDP is expected to submit the approved zoning of offices of the members of the NWC to the coming NEC meeting on September 9 2021, other stakeholders have been plotting to see that the NWC members elected were pliable to their aspiration.

In this regard, some stakeholders were believed to be working to ensure that the national chairmanship of the party was micro-zoned to the South-west, but a few others insisted that zoning it to the South-west might prove difficult, as it could amount to abridging the constitutional rights of Secondus to seek a constitutional re-election.

On his part, Dokpsei too has since debunked reports that he was in the chairmanship race. A statement from him claimed he wanted to keep his integrity and not soil or dent it.

Unfortunately, nobody from the South-east has indicated interest in the presidential run, not even a former governor of Anambra State, Peter Obi, who was Atiku’s running mate in the 2019 presidential election.

However, from the North, the list has continued to increase. There are several posters at the party secretariat in Abuja announcing the aspirations of Tambuwal, Atiku, Mohammed, Kwankwaso, and a former governor of Jigawa State, Sule Lamido.

Ahead of the zoning for both the presidential ticket and office of the national chairman, the chairman, Board of Trustees (BoT) of the PDP, Senator Waliid Jubrin, and Dokpesi have said the main opposition party stood a better chance in 2023 with a northern candidate.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/09/06/why-pdp-may-lose-all-southern-states-if-it-zones-presidency-to-north/


NIGERIANS ARE TIRED OF APC AND PDP.

Let a new political party take over the federal government come 2023.

The Apc and Pdp have all failed.
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Mossadd: 9:31am On Sep 06, 2021
Rubbish! So you think igbo will vote for apc if apc presents a Yoruba candidate expecially tinubu?
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by gidado14(m): 9:33am On Sep 06, 2021
Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by Educhelssy: 9:41am On Sep 06, 2021
paymentvoucher:
Any party that picks his Presidential Candidates from Northern Part of this Clime will lose woofully.

Nigerians have seen and learnt their lessons. Country was safer under Southern Leaders than Northern leaders.

But ask yourself this, does the northerners feel bothered or concerned about what u said above. They don’t, their own na their own & will vote en masse for him once he contests or they told so

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Re: Why PDP May Lose All Southern States If It Zones Presidency To North - Thisday by ITbomb(m): 9:43am On Sep 06, 2021
The fight against Atiku is real hiding under the guise of threat to PDP if it zones the president to North

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