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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:27pm On Sep 08, 2021
Guys, do we play better with two strikers upfront or with a single striker? I wanna know y'all opinions.
Osimhen was kinda off in the Liberia game. Man got me doubting his reliability.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 11:31pm On Sep 08, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
Guys, do we play better with two strikers upfront or with a single striker? I wanna know y'all opinions.
Osimhen was kinda off in the Liberia game. Man got me doubting his reliability.
It depends on your opponents. For example, if we're playing a superior opponent (Fifa ranking wise) 352 will be more balanced and adequate while when playing and inferior opponent, 442, 433 can be utilized. I want kelechi and osimehn partnership to continue but it should be done in a 352 formation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 11:33pm On Sep 08, 2021
Meliforme:


I am not yet sold on Joe Aribo and the new lad Kingsley Michael..
As far as i am concerned the CM spot is still vacant.

Please can you explain what you mean by Aribo and Ndidi can switch.

I mean Ndidi can play and act as CM as it's noticeable in his going forward in recent games just like kante does for Chelsea. Then aribo can steb back while he does and vice versa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:35pm On Sep 08, 2021
12large1:

He could had scored 2 good goals if not for the save of their goalie. Modern day wingers main attribute isn't about crossing but assisting, creating chances and scoring. I.e mane, salah

You are correct, but there are instances where crossing the ball Is sine qua non.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:37pm On Sep 08, 2021
12large1:

It depends on your opponents. For example, if we're playing a superior opponent (Fifa ranking wise) 352 will be more balanced and adequate while when playing and inferior opponent, 442, 433 can be utilized. I want kelechi and osimehn partnership to continue but it should be done in a 352 formation
I understand. But don't you feel that 352 exposes our defensive weaknesses?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:39pm On Sep 08, 2021
joelsteron:


I mean Ndidi can play and act as CM as it's noticeable in his going forward in recent games just like kante does for Chelsea. Then aribo can steb back while he does and vice versa
I prefer Ndidi and Onyeka partnership. What do you think?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 11:41pm On Sep 08, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

I understand. But don't you feel that 352 exposes our defensive weaknesses?

Not really. 352 when attacking and 532 while defending is such a solid formation if your RWB and LWB understand thier position, has a powerful Fitness level and can cross the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:43pm On Sep 08, 2021
12large1:


Not really. 352 when attacking and 532 while defending is such a solid formation if your RWB and LWB understand thier position, has a powerful Fitness level and can cross the ball.
True. I understand it now.
Who do you feel to be the better CM. Akpoguma or Balogun?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:44pm On Sep 08, 2021
joelsteron:
Bring me Algeria or England
Ndidi n aribo can switch

Which England do you want to bring grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:56pm On Sep 08, 2021
joelsteron:


I mean Ndidi can play and act as CM as it's noticeable in his going forward in recent games just like kante does for Chelsea. Then aribo can steb back while he does and vice versa

Aribo shouldn't step back for Ndiidi, Aribo has better offensive qualities.
This kind of switching will affect the way our team is set up.

Our opponents will take advantage of this and deal with us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by damagnificentusb(m): 12:06am On Sep 09, 2021
12large1:


The coach doesn't select his best players and we can clearly see it by the selection of Simon Moses and Musa ahead of onyekuru and ejuke. Ejuke first half was better than Musa and Moses last 5 games for super eagles. The same issue is occurring at RB as ebuehi is clearly better than aina


I disagree with your last statement. I do not think ebuehi is clearly better than aina

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 12:58am On Sep 09, 2021
damagnificentusb:



I disagree with your last statement. I do not think ebuehi is clearly better than aina
Go and rewatch Nigeria vs Argentina, England (friendly matches) and Iceland and see the effect of ebuehi introduction. At RB, ebuehi is better than Aina (in my opinion)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 1:35am On Sep 09, 2021
Carlos Queiroz now Egypt Coach.

Omo kiss

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 2:23am On Sep 09, 2021
Meliforme:
Ejuke's defensive shifts yesterday led me to conduct a little further examen on him.

I found out that of all our forwards in terms of man marking and tackling, He is the better.
He marks even better than 0simhen.

He is a dribbler, so it is easy for him to read body language. Dribbling goes both ways, both offensively and defensively.

His only problem is his stamina. He gasses out to quickly and then gets lost.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:35am On Sep 09, 2021
12large1:

Go and rewatch Nigeria vs Argentina, England (friendly matches) and Iceland and see the effect of ebuehi introduction. At RB, ebuehi is better than Aina (in my opinion)
friendly wey dem play since 3 yes ago?

By the way which effect re you talking about?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kinsmenn(m): 2:38am On Sep 09, 2021
lusid:
it was cøck blowing

Cokc blowing Kwa??
Lool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:32am On Sep 09, 2021
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by samtol4(m): 6:02am On Sep 09, 2021
Danielnino00:


To think that some of these wingers you listed may miss the AFCON list because of Musa is quite funny grin
Musa and Simon are sure banker for the team. Henry and Ejuke will be dropped for cup of nations. Too sad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jargooflife912(m): 6:06am On Sep 09, 2021
He should go back and Watch games played 3 years ago? LOL
12large1:

Go and rewatch Nigeria vs Argentina, England (friendly matches) and Iceland and see the effect of ebuehi introduction. At RB, ebuehi is better than Aina (in my opinion)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 7:03am On Sep 09, 2021
jargooflife912:
He should go back and Watch games played 3 years ago? LOL

Even his last game for eagles, he was more impressive than Aina. The win that we win 3 - 0
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 7:04am On Sep 09, 2021
samtol4:
Musa and Simon are sure banker for the team. Henry and Ejuke will be dropped for cup of nations. Too sad
Rohr can decide to not field his best players but at the end of the day, if he doesn’t surpass 2019 ANC result, his job will be for the taking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:12am On Sep 09, 2021
samtol4:
Musa and Simon are sure banker for the team. Henry and Ejuke will be dropped for cup of nations. Too sad

Well I think Ejuke has played himself into the team
It's Onyekuru that's not quite sure for now..
And it's all because Baba Rohr has refused to give him opportunities to show what he can really do
Start Onyekuru for friendly, Baba no go hear..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 7:32am On Sep 09, 2021
Meliforme:


My good man, is crossing ability the only thing that is reckoned as end product?

The ability to beat your marker in both pace and dribbles is a huge asset to any winger.
While he needs to work on crossing the ball, his long balls, through balls and finishing are good.
I have seen Ejuke deliver good crosses, but that is usually not the first thing he would want to do.
While it might not be the only thing, it sure hugely increases your chances of scoring.
Just like Samu, they both have pace and trickery but if you are not creating chances for your striker or better still converting them then we might struggle against a well organised team.
I have just gone through a lot of the highlights of African qualifiers. If you do have time to please have a look at them. You will see why I keep on talking about crosses.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:33am On Sep 09, 2021
samtol4:
Musa and Simon are sure banker for the team. Henry and Ejuke will be dropped for cup of nations. Too sad

But should ejuke or henry score in next couple of matches they'll make the afcon. Thats why i wanted Ejuke to score at least that will make it difficult for rohr to drop him to the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:47am On Sep 09, 2021
samtol4:
Musa and Simon are sure banker for the team. Henry and Ejuke will be dropped for cup of nations. Too sad
Pound for Pound. Moses is still far better than Onyekuru. The only thing I like about Onyekuru is that he has eyes for goal.

Ejuke knows how to dribble but he messes up the attack too often. He holds the ball for too long, giving the defense an opportunity to mark others. If he can add quick passing, he'll be more useful and dangerous.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:57am On Sep 09, 2021
drDoom3:


He is a dribbler, so it is easy for him to read body language. Dribbling goes both ways, both offensively and defensively.

His only problem is his stamina. He gasses out to quickly and then gets lost.


This is not true.

Only Ahmed Musa has a better staying power (stamina) than EJuke, if you are to grade the stamina of the wingers we have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:04am On Sep 09, 2021
For now under Rohr his preferred setup is to use a lone striker which has served us well during his tenure. Kelechi in the beginning, Ighalo and now Osimhen have all done reasonably well under this system. But I suspect you think like I do that a system which utilizes 2 forwards will be absolutely devastating to the opposition. Personally I think God has blessed Gernot with strikers and wingers that all have different strengths and attributes so trying to come up with a good balance should be possible.

For the Liberia game I think many factors contributed to Victor's below par showing. The pitch didn't help also the supporting cast were often not on the same wavelength with him. Like Supernerd so expertly broke down their were two glaring occasions that Aina and Ndidi out to have passed to him but choose the wrong option. Anyway strikers have their off days. Aubameyang and Salah were ineffective in the Gabon vs Egypt game so it happens.

Thing is forwards like Victor not matter what kind of game they are having can always nip in to score a vital goal when it matters most.

Stormtrooper11:
Guys, do we play better with two strikers upfront or with a single striker? I wanna know y'all opinions.
Osimhen was kinda off in the Liberia game. Man got me doubting his reliability.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:12am On Sep 09, 2021
I would have to see Ejuke in more matches before I can judge if he tires out or not. Like others have said I really appreciate his defensive discipline and awareness off the ball.

Meliforme:
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This is not true.

Only Ahmed Musa has a better staying power (stamina) than EJuke, if you are to grade the stamina of the wingers we have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:23am On Sep 09, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
Pound for Pound. Moses is still far better than Onyekuru. The only thing I like about Onyekuru is that he has eyes for goal.

Ejuke knows how to dribble but he messes up the attack too often. He holds the ball for too long, giving the defense an opportunity to mark others. If he can add quick passing, he'll be more useful and dangerous.

Is it in terms of ball control, trickery, footballing IQ etc. Please give us the metrics for your comparison.

We have seen these guys feature in the same league and we saw the gulf in class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:29am On Sep 09, 2021
chrisooblog:
I would have to see Ejuke in more matches before I can judge if he tires out or not. Like others have said I really appreciate his defensive discipline and awareness off the ball.


Watch his club games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:34am On Sep 09, 2021
Luthben:


True
Sometimes I wonder why these guys keep coming
I don't know if I would have been that patient if I was a footballer
this is their career ,it's where they earn their living .
u can't just quit just because ur boss preferred someone else for a moment,u have to fight n prove that u r better ,n wait 4 ur chance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by victornoah(m): 10:51am On Sep 09, 2021
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