₦airaland Forum

proeast:
The North no doubt have been a perennial parasite on South since the 1800's. However, you're biased in your analysis above. They don't have to rely on Kano alone since Abuja is also in their domain and FCT generates more than Rivers State. So, if Lagos as a former capital will be allocated to SW, why won't Abuja be allocated to North?

Having said that, I believe that all states in Nigeria must collect VAT in their respective states and use it for themselves. However, certain sectors like seaports and interstate transportation must be exclusive to ensure fairness. You can't build seaports in two states and still allow them to pocket excise duties/tax. If that should be the case, then Abia, Imo, Anambra, Bayelsa, Edo, Ondo and any state with access to the ocean should be allowed to build and manage their ports. Also, states should be allowed to establish international airports if they want and have the capacity to do so if tax from airports like MMAI will go to Lagos State. Also, all oil companies both major and minor must have their head office in the oil producing states.

Bro, no bias

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Can you also say Calabar should not be in south south cos it was also once capital?

Let me inform you that Abuja would collapse like a pack of cards should it be stripped off that capital title in a regional system

Everyone converge in Abuja not because it is the center market of north but because of the closeness to political power

Lagos is existing because of its centralness to the ports etc

Redcrafton:
Bros you have no idea what VAT is?

Let me help you....

SE people pay VAT on any item they purchase, beer etc...which people in Kano, FCT and Kano do not buy.

They pay VAT for or fees for communication, eg MTN, Globacom, etc..much more than the states you have mentioned...How many of you have phones or make more calls than the people in SE?

This is why Rivers and Lagos states should be supported so that VAT should be collected by the states and not FIRS.

Below is NBL breweries at 9th Mile in Enugu state.

Good for you.

The first top generating vat revenue for Nigeria, no south east states are among.

There are 2 northern state( kano and kaduna), fct 1 south south ( river) and 1 south west states( lagos)

These are where the most vat revenues comes from

thebosstrevor1:
Good for you.

The first top generating vat revenue for Nigeria, no south east states are among.

There are 2 northern state( kano and kaduna), fct 1 south south ( river) and 1 south west states( lagos)

These are where the most vat revenues comes from

This statistics is exactly what we want to put to test.
The VAT should be paid directly to state who will now present to the FG her own figure based on how much she earns and subsequently take full control of its 85%.
If Kaduna, Kano and Abuja (don't let me laugh) are so confident that the figures are real then they should support the movement. They should lend their voices so that they can equally enjoy the humongous VAT from their states and jurisdiction respectively

BKayy:
This statistics is exactly what we want to put to test.
The VAT should be paid directly to state who will now present to the FG her own figure based on how much she earns and subsequently take full control of its 85%.
If Kaduna, Kano and Abuja (don't let me laugh) are so confident that the figures are real then they should support the movement. They should lend their voices so that they can equally enjoy the humongous VAT from their states and jurisdiction respectively

They are supporting the bill.

The bill has no north vs south direction but you have made it like that.

The firs is fighting against it.

See, lets be logical, if lagos, rivers, kano and kaduna pass similar bill, it will only benefit them, lot of smaller states will go bankrupt no matter the geographical area.

thebosstrevor1:
They are supporting the bill.

The bill has no north vs south direction but you have made it like that.

The firs is fighting against it.

See, lets be logical, if lagos, rivers, kano and kaduna pass similar bill, it will only benefit them, lot of smaller states will go bankrupt no matter the geographical area.

Any state that will go bankrupt because of this shouldn't exist in the first place.
Aftet this comes resource control.
Every state should take control of 85% of whatever comes out from it

BKayy:
Any state that will go bankrupt because of this shouldn't exist in the first place.
Aftet this comes resource control.
Every state should take control of 85% of whatever comes out from it

Resource control will only benefit states with already developed resources.

States that have no money to develop their resources because of bankruptcy, will pack up.

thebosstrevor1:
Resource control will only benefit states with already developed resources.

States that have no money to develop their resources because of bankruptcy, will pack up.

This argument is making sense, you can't expect FG to develop critical sectors in your state then turn back and ask for full control. If any state should be looking for full resource control then they should invest on that area or other areas independently of the already established institutions. If government is drilling and selling your oil, the state should also drill and sell theirs independent of the federal government operation and then they can have full resource control in that sector. Currently now most state do not have the needed capital to kick start or revive critical sectors. Full resource control will set most state crumbling and refuge crises in the viable states which can also adversely affect it, another Nigeria 2.0.

Ekpeitit:
It depends on which part of the South you are talking about.
The South East is the worst parasite in Nigeria,they contribute absolutely nothing to the economy of this country.
Apart from crime,if you can tell me what the South East contributes to the economy of Nigeria I'll give you 10 thousand Naira.
Without our oil the South East will be completely finished,why do you think they are fighting so hard to put Niger Delta in Biafra?
Please tell me how much the South East contributes to the economy and development of Nigeria and I'll transfer 10,000 Naira to your account right now.

U are just too dull

bobowaja:
Are you dull? Is it FG money to start with?

FG should stop collecting from Rivers, allow it to manage its resources and see who will go hungry. I am done engaging you.

You are truly shameless

the guy is so fixated on the oil derivative..

kindlyheart:
the guy is so fixated on the oil derivative..

Imagine southerners getting worked up by their groundnuts and tomatoes. Even those ones we buy from them and they still decided to block it when it suits them. If not that it back fired badly, they wanted us to beg on our knees.

proeast:
You're so ignorant and deluded. You're asking what South East is contributing? I will educate you for free.

1. Oil and gas
2. Trade and commerce.
3. Industry and manufacturing.
4. Agriculture.
5. Remmitances.

Can you be bold enough to tell me your region of origin so we can compare with Igboland? I know you will run away like the coward you are!

Let every state control its resources and watch how we would move all our facilities in Lagos/Ogun and the rest of Nigeria back home. One of the reasons why we haven't done so is because it offers little or no advantage since the federal government still takes everything. But let the states be in control and see how all our head offices will be moved to the East so our home states will benefit since it's now winner takes all.

Whether you like it or not, Igbos naturally will always be ahead of you!!

Classic

thebosstrevor1:
Good for you.

The first top generating vat revenue for Nigeria, no south east states are among.

There are 2 northern state( kano and kaduna), fct 1 south south ( river) and 1 south west states( lagos)

These are where the most vat revenues comes from

Stop changing the goal post, your initial post was that South east isn't contributing anything to VaT...

thebosstrevor1:
They are supporting the bill.

The bill has no north vs south direction but you have made it like that.

The firs is fighting against it.

See, lets be logical, if lagos, rivers, kano and kaduna pass similar bill, it will only benefit them, lot of smaller states will go bankrupt no matter the geographical area.

I like your level of reasoning on this topic unlike the usual tribal posts.

Any state that wants to go bankrupt should go bankrupt. That way, they can be absorbed into other states as LGAs or better still we go back to regional government.

This VAT stuff is the first step to true federalism.

Oga, FCT does not generate more than Rivers state. Rivers generates a whole lot more than FCT. Pls try to get your facts updated.

proeast:
The North no doubt have been a perennial parasite on South since the 1800's. However, you're biased in your analysis above. They don't have to rely on Kano alone since Abuja is also in their domain and FCT generates more than Rivers State. So, if Lagos as a former capital will be allocated to SW, why won't Abuja be allocated to North?

Having said that, I believe that all states in Nigeria must collect VAT in their respective states and use it for themselves. However, certain sectors like seaports and interstate transportation must be exclusive to ensure fairness. You can't build seaports in two states and still allow them to pocket excise duties/tax. If that should be the case, then Abia, Imo, Anambra, Bayelsa, Edo, Ondo and any state with access to the ocean should be allowed to build and manage their ports. Also, states should be allowed to establish international airports if they want and have the capacity to do so if tax from airports like MMAI will go to Lagos State. Also, all oil companies both major and minor must have their head office in the oil producing states.

You do realize that diaspora remittances comprise of all Nigerians living abroad right? Including Yorubas, Edos, and other Niger Deltans.

Who are the everyone that knows this? This chestbeating will get you guys nowhere. Instead of you to provide facts and figures from your states that are predominantly overwhelming igbo you're talking remittances which is the collective effort of ALL Nigerians in diaspora.

Have you ever travelled out of Nigeria before? Because if you have that's when you'll even know that there are more Yorubas I'm so many countries especially in Europe and UAE than igbo.

I've been to UAE and I also lived in Europe too so I'm talking from experience.

Throughout the length and breathe of UAE from Dubai to Sharjah to Ajman to Abu Dhabi even in and around Deira market you'll find more Yorubas than Igbos pls ask anyone who has ever been there.

Stop takig glory for Nigerians collective effort and present results that are exclusively yours.

Redcrafton:
I know you are very poor in economics but let me help you with just one point.


Business
Diaspora Remittances into Nigeria dropped by $13.65bn in 2020 – CBN
https://www.ripplesnigeria.com/diaspora-remittances-into-nigeria-dropped-by-13-65bn-in-2020-cbn/#:~:text=Nigeria%20recorded%20the%20lowest%20Diaspora%20remittances%20for%20the,billion%20in%202019%20to%20%245.51%20billion%20in%202020.

Everyone knows the region that has more people sending money from diaspora...

Now when this money is sent, for withdrawals to happen there has to be bank charges, stamp duties, etc...this goes to the government.

Some of this money are used to buy shares in banks and companies like Dangote sugar, cement, MTN, etc...the pay taxes on dividends to FG which are shared to you in Kano, etc...

Also, when they build or buy properties, it goes to the local economy, etc, etc....

So how come you don't know these and you claim they contribute nothing to the economy?

So SE states has more industries than Rivers state ? Nothing I no go see for this app

proeast:
The more you talk, the more you show how empty you are upstairs. Anambra and Abia States each have more industries than Kano. It's not hearsay and I get am before no be property. Kano is no longer an industrial center like in the past. Aside Lagos/Ogun region, no other place in Nigeria is currently more Industrialized than SE. Let this VAT take effect and watch us move all our headquarters to Igboland while oil companies will relocate to the Niger Delta.

The game is about to become more interesting. Go and ask questions, Igbos thrive very well in competition and fairplay.

Modified*** So you still lived up to expectation as a coward? I challenged you to name your region since you claim to be doing better than Igbos yet fear no gree you

Hiding behind Nigeria vs. Igbos to throw shades shows how timid and cowardly you and your likes are.

Delta is contributes more than any northern state pls get your facts right.

thebosstrevor1:
Good for you.

The first top generating vat revenue for Nigeria, no south east states are among.

There are 2 northern state( kano and kaduna), fct 1 south south ( river) and 1 south west states( lagos)

These are where the most vat revenues comes from

Who told you it has no n vs s direction?

The Gombe govt that said we should be our brother's keeper and Katsina Governor that is opposing it are from where?

Have you not seen videos of a northerner politician claiming the oil in bayelsa belongs to Jigawa state?

Northerners are not supporting the bill and you know this.

thebosstrevor1:
They are supporting the bill.

The bill has no north vs south direction but you have made it like that.

The firs is fighting against it.

See, lets be logical, if lagos, rivers, kano and kaduna pass similar bill, it will only benefit them, lot of smaller states will go bankrupt no matter the geographical area.

That is nobody's business. They've been getting handouts since 1914. If we say we're not doing again even God will understand.

I say this not because I'm from SS but because as a Nigerian in tired of this parasitic system of Government.

Since the North hate us so much they don't deserve a kobo from our purse. Enough is enough.

I don't mind sharing with Igbos and Yorubas but that North....God forbid.

thebosstrevor1:
Resource control will only benefit states with already developed resources.

States that have no money to develop their resources because of bankruptcy, will pack up.

Parisian:
So SE states has more industries than Rivers state ? Nothing I no go see for this app

Where are the industries in Rivers State? Can you name up to 20 functional manufacturing industries in Rivers State?

It's oil and onne port activities as well as regional head offices of some establishments that makes Rivers State IGR high.

Anambra and Abia both have more industries than Rivers by far! Rivers State even relies on Abia for so many things like machine parts supply, engineering repairs and household goods.

Truthissupreme:
I was just thinking about a regional system and how each state today would fair

Let's forget about the oil from the south south that undoubtedly fuels this nation

From the expose of Gov Wike Rivers brought ₦15billion and got ₦4billion in june

If it decides to share that as a region it can comfortably give ₦2.5billion to Cross River, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and still be ok

Mind you this ₦2billion is the same one the king of the north kano with its huge population could manage let alone less populated states

In the West Lagos can comfortably give times 2 of that amount to Osun, Oyo, Ekiti, Ondo and i have not added Ogun that is reliable on its own and can help

In the East I won't argue with you whether they can survive on their own, i would simply say just give them their region and watch part2 of how a grounded levelled region in the 70's can be thriving today

In the North unfortunately the king of the North with all its quota system prefential treatment could muscle up ₦2billion a month

Meaning it is going to be sharing ₦90 million a month to 18 states and it still won't be enough to go round

The SE will do well.

Abia, Anambra and Imo state have oil and gas deposit, Ebonyi has large deposit of Salt and Lime Stone for Cement production, Enugu is endowed with Coal and gas.

Aside these, SE have abundant human resources as the people are not lazy.

Truthissupreme:
I was just thinking about a regional system and how each state today would fair

Let's forget about the oil from the south south that undoubtedly fuels this nation

From the expose of Gov Wike Rivers brought ₦15billion and got ₦4billion in june

If it decides to share that as a region it can comfortably give ₦2.5billion to Cross River, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and still be ok

Mind you this ₦2billion is the same one the king of the north kano with its huge population could manage let alone less populated states

In the West Lagos can comfortably give times 2 of that amount to Osun, Oyo, Ekiti, Ondo and i have not added Ogun that is reliable on its own and can help

In the East I won't argue with you whether they can survive on their own, i would simply say just give them their region and watch part2 of how a grounded levelled region in the 70's can be thriving today

In the North unfortunately the king of the North with all its quota system prefential treatment could muscle up ₦2billion a month

Meaning it is going to be sharing ₦90 million a month to 18 states and it still won't be enough to go round

I had to quote this cos I was banned by bolt on “cryptocurrency thread”. Hope you got the telegram ID