achorladey:


Your problem is laziness to probe to your past. You are blind followers of confused people......

Ehn, should they go into the past na the way, the truth and the life to APOSTASY be that.

That their brag and sanctity of marriage dey make me laugh Even despite the many rules in their various manuals about this marriage of a thing you will still see how members use it to perpetrate whatever they want to do and get away with it.

MightySparrow:
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.

MightySparrow:

Have you shown honesty in your posts?

DappaD:


Never mind me. You have nothing to learn from Witnesses but you solicit answers from them every now and then. Well done.

MightySparrow:


No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!

DappaD:


Not just him, anyway. But many other people like him. I often come across people who love how Witnesses do their thing in terms of worship and all.

BUT!

where they seem to get lost is when you choose not to engage in any form of sacred service with them. 2Corinthians 6:14-17
That’s when they turn furious and start saying all manner of distasteful things against you.

I laughed when he said he didn’t have anything to learn from Witnesses. Yet in all the threads he has created on Nairaland, it’s usually Witnesses who do come to his rescue. In fact, for even asking such easy questions like “Why did God kill Jesus instead of Satan” shows how the man is languishing spiritually(Luke 16:24) It seems like the next step forward for him is atheism.

Myer:

The bible doesn't support it. I did not say God, I said the bible. Because we don't see where God forbade it.

But Peter and Paul categorically spoke against female leaders in the church.
Paul also highlights the conditions of selecting church leaders- deacons and bishops. 1 Timothy 3:1-13
No provision was made for females leaders.

However, we have verses that seem also to support female pastors or co-pastors.
1. Deborah was a judge (leader).
2. The story of Aquila and Priscilla.
3. Also there's no longer male or female in Christ.

If truly God is using a female as a leader in a church who then can fight against it?

MaxInDHouse:
See confusion!
Please humble yourselves and come to learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you say Bible doesn't support something yet you doubt if God support it, then ask yourself:
Did you understand what the Bible stands for?

Well let me help you out here.

[highlight]The BIBLE is God's word![highlight] 2Timothy 3:16; 2Peter 1:21

Myer:

Was Deborah a leader (judge) in Israel or not?

MaxInDHouse:


Of course that's equivalent of a queen!
Note that during the time of Kings in Israel God separated the duties of a King who serves as judge in Israel from that of Priests who lead during worship!
So Deborah is a judge the equivalent of a Queen but that doesn't give her the audacity to lead during worship!

Myer:

Audacity you say? That sounds familiar.
You sound like the Pharisees who wondered who qnd what gave Jesus Christ the "audacity" to preach and teach with such authority as he did.

Anyway, my point is simple.
Yes the bible doesn't make provision for women to be pastors or copastors. But then God often goes beyond what is written in the books because he cannot be boxed.
The reason most Jews till date do not believe in Jesus Christ is because he went against some of what was written about the Messiah. They were expecting someone from a royal family according to their interpretation of Isaiah 9:6.

DappaD:


Never mind me. You have nothing to learn from Witnesses but you solicit answers from them every now and then. Well done.

MightySparrow:

Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believe and maintains my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you.
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.

No matter how many billions you spend on publications.

MightySparrow:


JWs hasn't anything to teach me. The get confused and go into charms. If your God is not sufficient, how do you claim to have faith. If your members male and female abscond from marriages, how do you convince me of sanctity of marriage? I see hypocrisy in your claims. Not to talk of doctrines your GB subtly abandoned.
Your problem is laziness to probe to your past. You are blind followers of confused people.

Sparrow, you are DECEIVING yourself

If not,your Pastorpreneurs appointment of their wives as business co- partners wouldn't confuse you to elicit responses on a public forum.

We know our past, it is not picture perfect.
In your own Bible ,none of Jehovah's servant is perfect.
Jehovah God abandoned His doctrine of animals sacrifices in your own Bible.

Jehovah abandoned His doctrine of Jews as His only chosen servants.
Bros, what's your problem?

Bros, your PFN Pastorpreneurs recently married an adulterous woman & some of them seduce married women living outside their matrimonial homes with pastorship positions in some of their business franchises.
Some of them are famous for brolosho activities.
2 Timothy 3:5-7.

Bros, go & clean up the pollution in your midst before you can see the specks of JWs.

MightySparrow:


Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believe and maintains my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. No matter how many billions you spend on publications[b]. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you[/b].
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.

In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?

MightySparrow:


#1
No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!

Janosky:


In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?

MaxInDHouse:


I've told you times without number that this book (Bible) belongs to Jehovah's Witnesses, if you want to know what God requires just come humbly and learn from them. I was a Muslim until i discovered that this book is about them and their heritage so you can't understand the book unless you learn from those whose heritage you're trying to grasp!

When i say "audacity" i mean it's totally unacceptable because angels are around during our worship {1Corinthians 11:10} and when anyone goes against stipulated rules regarding our heritage the angels won't hesitate to strike such a person!

Uzziah was a King in Israel, he made this same mistake, the priests warned him but he ignored them. Guess what happened to him? Well instantly the angel inside the most holy struck Uzziah and he became a leper and that's how he spent the rest of his life! 2Chronicles 26:16-21 compare to 1Corinthians 10:11

So learn today that it's our heritage that's why we know everything about it all other groups claiming Christians are misinformed Churchgoers, they can't understand our book because Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) is not working with them! Daniel 12:10

May you have PEACE!

Myer:

Who are Jehovah's witnesses?
Is it those who belong to the church denomination named Jehovah's witness? Or those who proclaim Christ through their life?

MightySparrow:


Are you now in the position of Jesus?

If not are you afraid of truth?

MaxInDHouse:
The one and only true Christian group!

Janosky:

In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?

Janosky:

JWs copy that practice of Jesus.

Do Pastorpreneurs have the truth?
Do sheeples of Pastorpreneurs have truth?

Myer:

You did not answer the question. Is it your denomination or group named Jehovah's Witness?
Or anyone whose life is a witness of Christ?

MaxInDHouse:


We are no denomination of any Organization, we stand alone!
Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians. Matthew 13:24-30
But after his return Jesus and his invisible angelic forces began the separation work which lasted for decades until 1931 when the group has started taken the shape befitting pure worship (true Christianity) then JEHOVAH adopted this group as His people and called them by another unique name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't think we are part of them {John 15:19} the separation work has been done {Revelations 18:4} all those outside JW aren't worshiping our own God. True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-23

Myer:


Am I right that according to you Jehovah's witnesses are only those who belong to the JW organisation?

So no matter how much Faith one has in God and
Jesus Christ and lives according to Christ as long as the person doesn't belong to your organisation they are not true witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.

MaxInDHouse:


We are no denomination of any Organization, we stand alone!
Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians. Matthew 13:24-30
But after his return Jesus and his invisible angelic forces began the separation work which lasted for decades until 1931 when the group has started taken the shape befitting pure worship (true Christianity) then JEHOVAH adopted this group as His people and called them by another unique name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't think we are part of them {John 15:19} the separation work has been done {Revelations 18:4} all those outside JW aren't worshiping our own God. True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-23

achorladey:


Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death,
contained an article titled: “A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part,

it said:
The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther.

Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented.

*The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell*

Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther

All these names starting from Arius to Luther too are JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. All they need is to come and DENY IT or support it. Just wait for them.

Myer:


You did not answer the question sir.

Myer:

Am I right that according to you Jehovah's witnesses are only those who belong to the JW organisation?

So no matter how much Faith one has in God and Jesus Christ and lives according to Christ as long as the person doesn't belong to your organisation they are not true witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.