Olatara:
Is it that simple?

What's difficult there ? Is there any company that doesn't know how much of each product they sale per State?

mrvitalis:
To solve this issue is simple , VAT should be paid by the consumers to the retailers not the producers

Why are we acting like it's rocket science ?

Coca cola know how much coke is sold in Lagos ...u calculate the VAT and pay Lagos

Pepsi know amount of their products sold in zamfara ... calculate it and give to zamfara

I don't know why people want to make us believe this is hard

A simple app can do this calculation from sales m distribution figures

That is a recipe for chaos. You want one company to file taxes in all the 36 states? You know it's not enforceable that way. Streamline everything by collecting only at the point of manufacturing. A state can't be business friendly, making concessions to new industries, attracting businesses, only to have those businesses pay VAT to lazy states.

wirinet:

Very valid points. I am sure the VAT issue was a serious oversight on the part of the framers of our constitution. They thought we will depend on oil forever and so did not give attention to taxes.

This VAT issue is one more reason we need to come to a round table and renegotiate the basis of our Federation or is it Republic. ( honestly I am yet to understand the one we are practicing right now)
For one we cannot leave some state in abject poverty while some other states are in abject affluence. That would lead to serious instability in the whole nation. It's like one small part of your body being afflicted, while the whole is healthy. Than tiny afflicted part will eventually distrupt the whole body.
At the same time monkey cannot continue to work while baboons dey chop.

We have to find a middle ground.

That is when common sense will set in. We all know states have been created not based on common sense. States will have to merge to cut cost on governance....and go heavy on delivery and service to citizens. It happened in banking under Soludo, and we all are the better for it. It should happen in politics too.

Ibkhaleel001:
As for you cynics that have no value to add in the dilemma except vituperation, and abuses, we know that is the substance they are made up of. No qualms whatsoever! you don’t expect fragrance from feces.

The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!

Your type are doing a disservice to the interest of the northern populace.
Answer these questions honestly, and you will see exactly who to fight for.
What is the proportion of out of school children.

Maternal mortality rate.

Proportion of the northerners in the real sector(not government jobs). Half of your population is redundant(women).

How many northerners are in the jobs of the future( tech, fin tech).

What type of jobs do northern migrants in the south do. And what type of jobs do southern migrants do in the north. Compare.

You need to fight for the rights of the downtrodden in the north. And not for the interests of the so called leaders.

Mynd44:
Not my opinion, just an alternate arguement

oga go and collect vat from bandit industry. Those who hate alcohol want alcoholic vat. What a hypocrisy.

mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didntcommand you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

I will take you Muslims serious when you ban cigarettes. In case you don't know cigarette is worse than alcohol healthwise. But Muslims keep smoking like chimneys. BTW, if alcohol is bad, Christ wouldn't have turned water to wine, his first recorded miracle. So alcohol is not prohibited for Christians.

It is a good start to getting justice. That is progress

mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didntcommand you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

you know its detrimental to health yet you want to collect vat proceeds from it. Oga the average life expectancy of an average southerner with all the alcohol that they consume is far higher than that of a northerner.

Ibkhaleel001:
As for you cynics that have no value to add in the dilemma except vituperation, and abuses, we know that is the substance they are made up of. No qualms whatsoever! you don’t expect fragrance from feces.

The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!

are you done with all this you long BBC write up North is The worst that happen to Nigeria the south may fight themselves for political power but trust me the south is by million far better than North

Bonesbreaker:
are you done with all this you long BBC write up North is The worst that happen to Nigeria the south may fight themselves for political power but trust me the south is by million far better than North

Better in Fraud,Yahoo or cultism?

You sacrifice everyone in your family and community for ritualism at the end you lose everything and become frustrated!


You are Real terrorists, cultists, rapists and criminals in the southern part of Nigeria... You have always spoil the name of Nigeria and have given it bad image, there's nothing they add but the number of prisoners...People dont knw all this because thay have what the North lack – a propaganda machine – and so you think your crimes and character will be hidden different. Forget rabble-rousing journalists and bloggers and social media influencers with you who would want to push the narrative of the “unknown gunmen” (clandestine agents) or shout to the high heavens of being victimised. That never helps in such situations. In most civil wars, crushed sides almost always win propagandas. Please, try to study history, my brother

Tayeni:
That is a recipe for chaos. You want one company to file taxes in all the 36 states? You know it's not enforceable that way. Streamline everything by collecting only at the point of manufacturing. A state can't be business friendly, making concessions to new industries, attracting businesses, only to have those businesses pay VAT to lazy states.

VAT is same as sales tax ...or consumer tax ..it's the tax the final consumer pays for value added to the product

So someone in imo buys Coke u want the coke to go to Lagos because the head office is in Lagos ?

Equity and fairness is all we want

All companies that operate nation wide file tax in all 36 states it's nothing new

So MTN staff working in Kano would pay income tax to Lagos because head office is Lagos ?

No I'm only saying treat VAT as income tax simple

Mynd44:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1436608325437755399.html

each service rendered in any region should be taxed and have it remitted to the region's government. That is simple enough to grab.
Companies that have different branches in different regions should divide their taxes which will turn be paid into the coffers of the region they are situated. That is also simple enough

This is restructuring without wars

Ibkhaleel001:
Better in Fraud,Yahoo or cultism?

You sacrifice everyone in your family and community for ritualism at the end you lose everything and become frustrated!


You are Real terrorists, cultists, rapists and criminals in the southern part of Nigeria... You have always spoil the name of Nigeria and have given it bad image, there's nothing they add but the number of prisoners...People dont knw all this because thay have what the North lack – a propaganda machine – and so you think your crimes and character will be hidden different. Forget rabble-rousing journalists and bloggers and social media influencers with you who would want to push the narrative of the “unknown gunmen” (clandestine agents) or shout to the high heavens of being victimised. That never helps in such situations. In most civil wars, crushed sides almost always win propagandas. Please, try to study history, my brother

your brothers will enter truck loads of cow to southern states just to escape poverty hundreds of your people found eating grass as food is it not better to kill one of your 16 kids to become wealthy and take care of them than breed 17 kids all with poor education, abuse and terror to the nation since 2002 boko harm has killed close to 30million people know bandit is a business machine in North to the level school are on short down what good is the North been note for name one good thing

Bonesbreaker:
your brothers will enter truck loads of cow to southern states just to escape poverty hundreds of your people found eating grass as food is it not better to kill one of your 16 kids to become wealthy and take care of them than breed 17 kids all with poor education, abuse and terror to the nation since 2002 boko harm has killed close to 30million people know bandit is a business machine in North to the level school are on short down what good is the North been note for name one good thing

Seven west African heads of states are Fulanis, The UN Deputy secretary general is a fulani Lady ....

What has your tribe in isolation contributed to the human enlightenment and progress? You are archaic, expired, and retrogressive. You are a failure and a disgrace to humanity...you are lost in the abysmal darkness of ignorance

Useless jobless online chained dogs barking.

Ibkhaleel001:
Lack of solid understanding of our diversity is the reason for the needless animosity and distrust everywhere. Alcohol is frowned at in the north and the noise is that revenue from alcohol collected from States that permit sales of beer should not be shared with the states of northern Nigeria. Very valid argument but we also forgot that the same north supplies the grains used in brewing alcohol oh . So las las every region is dependent on one another - we are mutual parasites! Mutually musing

Grains Supplied for free?

Ibkhaleel001:
Seven west African heads of states are Fulanis, The UN Deputy secretary general is a fulani Lady ....

What has your tribe in isolation contributed to the human enlightenment and progress? You are archaic, expired, and retrogressive. You are a failure and a disgrace to humanity...you are lost in the abysmal darkness of ignorance

Useless jobless online chained dogs barking.

seven West African heads of states are Fulani the UN Deputy secretary general is a fulani lady yet jamb cut off mark in your North is the lowest in history yet 80 % of your population are so poor, yet 70% percent of ur people are uneducated, 99% of North lacks infrastructure, i can mention on and on i swear i feel ashamed to still have you guys in.Nigeria you people are national disgrace suicide bombers Rapist

wirinet:


States collecting VAT on their own would be subject to lots of abuse and manipulations. How will the FG and other states verify the data presented by a state?

You want 10% of a State's VAT going into the pockets of a "Jagaban"?

Reread my text you just quoted and explain how exactly it would be FG’s business?

Read it slowly.

Regards

Bonesbreaker:
seven West African heads of states are Fulani the UN Deputy secretary general is a fulani lady yet jamb cut off mark in your North is the lowest in history yet 80 % of your population are so poor, yet 70% percent of ur people are uneducated, 99% of North lacks infrastructure, i can mention on and on i swear i feel ashamed to still have you guys in.Nigeria you people are national disgrace suicide bombers Rapist

You sacrifice everyone in your family and community for ritualism at the end you lose everything and become frustrated!


You are Real terrorists, cultists, rapists and criminals in the southern part of Nigeria... You have always spoil the name of Nigeria and have given it bad image, there's nothing they add but the number of prisoners...People dont knw all this because thay have what the North lack – a propaganda machine – and so you think your crimes and character will be hidden different.

People from q cultists HIV and AIDs ravaged region

Ibkhaleel001:
Lack of solid understanding of our diversity is the reason for the needless animosity and distrust everywhere. Alcohol is frowned at in the north and the noise is that revenue from alcohol collected from States that permit sales of beer should not be shared with the states of northern Nigeria. Very valid argument but we also forgot that the same north supplies the grains used in brewing alcohol oh . So las las every region is dependent on one another - we are mutual parasites! Mutually musing

Abeg are the grains from the north free??don't the south pay for it??

Ibkhaleel001:
You sacrifice everyone in your family and community for ritualism at the end you lose everything and become frustrated!


You are Real terrorists, cultists, rapists and criminals in the southern part of Nigeria... You have always spoil the name of Nigeria and have given it bad image, there's nothing they add but the number of prisoners...People dont knw all this because thay have what the North lack – a propaganda machine – and so you think your crimes and character will be hidden different.

People from q cultists HIV and AIDs ravaged region

haha is not easy sacrifice one to achieve greatness name one good thing the North have helped nigeria achieve and i will rest my case are you aware that Abacha loot since 190s is still been recovered his so mean that he refuse to develop his own village he dried Nigeria that we still have money some where left to recover after years of his death e shock you do you know that since North has been in power from military regime to the useless buhari of a president Nigeria has move from digital to Analog we moved from dollar 100 to 570 we moved from substance to decrease kia, tell me bro am not cursing you what benefit is the North tell me your achievement lets compare

Mynd44:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1436608325437755399.html

Well said... Maybe our national assembly will beging to think more along this line.

Ibkhaleel001:
Seven west African heads of states are Fulanis, The UN Deputy secretary general is a fulani Lady ....

What has your tribe in isolation contributed to the human enlightenment and progress? You are archaic, expired, and retrogressive. You are a failure and a disgrace to humanity...you are lost in the abysmal darkness of ignorance

Useless jobless online chained dogs barking.

Bros. Please don't invent any hypocritical theories in defense of your argument.
You might sound stupid writing those trash in defense of Fulanis.
What have those Fulani African leaders achieved for their countries or regions?

Bonesbreaker:
haha is not easy sacrifice one to achieve greatness name one good thing the North have helped nigeria achieve and i will rest my case are you aware that Abacha loot since 190s is still been recovered his so mean that he refuse to develop his own village he dried Nigeria that we still have money some where left to recover after years of his death e shock you do you know that since North has been in power from military regime to the useless buhari of a president Nigeria has move from digital to Analog we moved from dollar 100 to 570 we moved from substance to decrease kia, tell me bro am not cursing you what benefit is the North tell me your achievement lets compare

let me take my time to educate you...cux it seems you lack basic knowledge but is filled up with hate and propaganda that you have inherited from your backward fraud region...

£1 = N705
$1 = N505
€1 = N605
02/08/2021

0.78k = $1
02/08/1980
Are you surprised?

We were far more productive in 1980 than we are today

In 1980 the key reasons for economic growth were are as follows:

1) We were a net exporter of refined petroleum products. Today we import all our refined petroleum products.

2) We rode in locally assembled cars, buses and trucks. Peugeot cars in Kaduna and Volkswagen cars in Lagos.

Leyland in Ibadan and ANAMCO in Enugu produced our buses and trucks.

Steyr at Bauchi producing our Agricultural tractors.

And it was not just Assembly, we were producing many of the components.

Vono products in Lagos producing the seats.

Exide in Ibadan producing the batteries, not just for Nigeria but for the entire West Africa.

Isoglass and TSG in Ibadan producing the windshields.

Ferodo in Ibadan producing the brake pads and discs

Tyres produced by Dunlop in Lagos and Mitchelin in Portharcourt.

And I mean tyres produced from rubber plantations located in Ogun and Rivers State.

3) We were listening to Radio and watching television sets assembled in Ibadan by Sanyo.

4) We were using refrigerators, freezers and Airconditioners produced by Thermocool and Debo.

5) We were putting on clothes produced from the UNTL textile mills in Kaduna and Chellarams in Lagos.

Not from imported cotton but from cotton grown in Nigeria.

6) Our water was running through pipes produced by Kwalipipe in Kano and Duraplast in Lagos .

7) Our toilets were fitted with WC produced at Kano and Abeokuta.

We were cooking with LPG gas stored inside gas cylinders produced at the NGC factory in Ibadan.

9) Our electricity was flowing through cables produced by the Nigerian wire and Cable, Ibadan, NOCACO in Kaduna and Kablemetal in Lagos and Portharcourt.

10) We had Bata and Lennards producing the shoes we were putting on

Not from imported leather but from locally tanned leather at Kaduna.

11) We were mainly flying our airways, the Nigeria Airways, to most places in the world.

The Airways was about the biggest in Africa at that time.

12) Most of the food we ate were being grown or produced in Nigeria.

We were producing all of the above and more in 1980

Today, we import almost everything.

There lies the source of the terrible exchange rate we are experiencing today and everybody reading this has a critical role to play in reversing this very UGLY trend.

We have been talking about these problems and more for ages...

It is not enough for us to complain about the exchange rate or point out what others are not doing or are failing to do, the key question is what are we producing or what are we planning to produce?

Going forward, it's time to ponder and think of the way forward before it's TOO LATE.

What solutions do you have in mind?

Kaiser20:

Bros. Please don't invent any hypocritical theories in defense of your argument.
You might sound stupid writing those trash in defense of Fulanis.
What have those Fulani African leaders achieved for their countries or regions?

Are they responsible for your suffering in your HIV and AIDS erosion ravaged region?

Ibkhaleel001:
let me take my time to educate you...cux it seems you lack basic knowledge but is filled up with hate and propaganda that you have inherited from your backward fraud region...

£1 = N705
$1 = N505
€1 = N605
02/08/2021

0.78k = $1
02/08/1980
Are you surprised?

We were far more productive in 1980 than we are today

In 1980 the key reasons for economic growth were are as follows:

1) We were a net exporter of refined petroleum products. Today we import all our refined petroleum products.

2) We rode in locally assembled cars, buses and trucks. Peugeot cars in Kaduna and Volkswagen cars in Lagos.

Leyland in Ibadan and ANAMCO in Enugu produced our buses and trucks.

Steyr at Bauchi producing our Agricultural tractors.

And it was not just Assembly, we were producing many of the components.

Vono products in Lagos producing the seats.

Exide in Ibadan producing the batteries, not just for Nigeria but for the entire West Africa.

Isoglass and TSG in Ibadan producing the windshields.

Ferodo in Ibadan producing the brake pads and discs

Tyres produced by Dunlop in Lagos and Mitchelin in Portharcourt.

And I mean tyres produced from rubber plantations located in Ogun and Rivers State.

3) We were listening to Radio and watching television sets assembled in Ibadan by Sanyo.

4) We were using refrigerators, freezers and Airconditioners produced by Thermocool and Debo.

5) We were putting on clothes produced from the UNTL textile mills in Kaduna and Chellarams in Lagos.

Not from imported cotton but from cotton grown in Nigeria.

6) Our water was running through pipes produced by Kwalipipe in Kano and Duraplast in Lagos .

7) Our toilets were fitted with WC produced at Kano and Abeokuta.

We were cooking with LPG gas stored inside gas cylinders produced at the NGC factory in Ibadan.

9) Our electricity was flowing through cables produced by the Nigerian wire and Cable, Ibadan, NOCACO in Kaduna and Kablemetal in Lagos and Portharcourt.

10) We had Bata and Lennards producing the shoes we were putting on

Not from imported leather but from locally tanned leather at Kaduna.

11) We were mainly flying our airways, the Nigeria Airways, to most places in the world.

The Airways was about the biggest in Africa at that time.

12) Most of the food we ate were being grown or produced in Nigeria.

We were producing all of the above and more in 1980

Today, we import almost everything.

There lies the source of the terrible exchange rate we are experiencing today and everybody reading this has a critical role to play in reversing this very UGLY trend.

We have been talking about these problems and more for ages...

It is not enough for us to complain about the exchange rate or point out what others are not doing or are failing to do, the key question is what are we producing or what are we planning to produce?

Going forward, it's time to ponder and think of the way forward before it's TOO LATE.

What solutions do you have in mind?

who caused it you guys has been in power since the creation of Nigeria so whose fault is it why? What happened? Who messed up the system you guys North

Bonesbreaker:
who caused it you guys has been in power since the creation of Nigeria so whose fault is it why? What happened? Who messed up the system

You still need to be educated about the reason??

In the whole 8years of OBJ's administration he did not see a single Hausa/Fulani northerner worthy of appointment as Service Chief, IGP or DG (DSS). Victor Malu, Martin Luther Agwai, Jonah Wuyep, Luka Yusuf, Ibrahim Ogehi, then IGP Tafa Balogun, Musliu Smith, Sunday Ehindero, Mike Okiro up to the DG (DSS) Col. Aare (rtd), were his selected appointees to oversee our security architecture.

Where appointments were to be made from Kano or Sokoto (whole seat of Chaliphate) he would look for the Adamu Baikis, the Solomon Matankaris who are indegenous Christians of the area. If Hausas/Fulanis complained, Obj’s response was, “all the appointees were your people, brothers from the North”. Of course they were; he even used sme tactics to play a very dangerous divide and rule politics with northerners; his arrow - headmen, Jerry Gana & Solomon Lar were part and parcel of the Villa cabals, members of his kitchen cabinet who determined most appointment made by the government Agencies. Google all the very sensitive position then, there was no single Hausa or Fulani there. CBN, Joseph Sanusi later Soludo. Custom Buba Gyan, NNPC Edmund Dakoru, to mention just a few.

Never forget that OBJ flushed out more than 500 soldiers of Northern extraction, from the ranks of Major and above, who held political appointments during the past military administrations, including orderlies and ADCs. Those who survived his hammer, like Bamalli Nuhu were assembled and bombed in the mountainous region; between Benue and Cross River States.

Obasanjo’s civil service reform were mainly targeted at northerners who mostly, (80%) became victims; from NEPA,Maritime, NPA and Aviation etc. Northerners were major casualties. Similarly all the replacements that followed were from his kiths and kins, and his god sons.

Prior to 1999, more than 15 international airlines operate or had their routes to Kano, but Obasanjo made sure he decimated that to only 3 before he left. Very very fresh in our memories is how he stylishly killed all the Northern textiles, groundnuts and cotton pyramids as well as many other agronomic economies; particularly the poultry using the hoax claim of “birds flu” conspiracy that obliterated all major players in the sector, from northern region. He also deliberately opened our boarders for the importation of all kinds of agricultural goods, which tactically killed virtually all local industries in Kano, Kaduna, Gusau to mention just a few. He stated and ensured DIC and Peugeot and Steyr plants became comatose.virtually all critical northern enterprises were put out of business with deadly attendant consequences.

For example, in Kano alone there were more than 5000 factories / industries located in Challawa, Bompai and Sharada industrial estates. Before Obj’s tenure ended he made sure 80% of those factories folded up, and the remaining 20% were operating at half level, below minimal capacities due to his well designed, well executed, skewed economic policies.

Remember the housing, monetization and privatisation policies he used our people to execute? This program was conceptualised and well executed to basically empower his kiths and Kins to owned choice properties in Abuja and Lagos. The privatisation was used to catapult cronies and surrogates, as well as God sons, into multi-billionaires. People like Mike Adenuga, Fola Adeola, Jimoh Ibrahim, Jim Ovia, Chris and the Andy Ubahs, to mention just a few.

Most of these people were, prior to 1999, using night buses to & fro Lagos/Abuja. Incidentally within a span of short period, all were flying private jets,while the country, North in particular was rapidly sliding backwards. One can continue on and on; why the north and northerners tolerated all that, only God knows.

The current clamor for self determination by some states from previous regions are nothing but blackmails that, to me, are dead on arrival. Rather than experiencing the Obj treatment again, it suffices if every single region go its separate way. The north can not afford to make the 1999 blunder again. Democracy is a game of numbers; anybody who thinks he/she is competent to lead us should come out and contest. The north is not ready to concede to any blackmail.


Hope it is now clear to you?

oluwaseyi0:


This sounds like tears of a self-destructive North

I started laughing when you said southern terrorist are compensated while North terrorist ain't, southern 'terrorist' fight for their land and people, they fight against oil spillage, operation of their tribe and other ills perpetrated by northerns while northern terrorist allegiance is to their despicable religion and selfish interest shekau kill northerners like there is no tomorrow

The north loves backwardness they refuse to train their people rather they give them useless almajiri education

The North rather than trying to catch up with the south is more interested in dragging the south to its mediocre level through quota system, the north can't Excel where merit is the only option

I completely lost faith in the North when my company was denied federal government tech project because we didn't have any northern as software engineer , just imagine


We have to add our northern gateman to list of tech engineers before the project is approved, this shows the northerners in government don't care about quality of engineers rather only where they come from

Bro � Nigeria happened to your company right there. This same iish happened to us when we were posted to MRS oil apapa . They rejected all of us because there is no Northerners was posted with us. � That day I had a different first class idea about this country not being same and this was in 2012

Ibkhaleel001:
You still need to be educated about the reason??

In the whole 8years of OBJ's administration he did not see a single Hausa/Fulani northerner worthy of appointment as Service Chief, IGP or DG (DSS). Victor Malu, Martin Luther Agwai, Jonah Wuyep, Luka Yusuf, Ibrahim Ogehi, then IGP Tafa Balogun, Musliu Smith, Sunday Ehindero, Mike Okiro up to the DG (DSS) Col. Aare (rtd), were his selected appointees to oversee our security architecture.

Where appointments were to be made from Kano or Sokoto (whole seat of Chaliphate) he would look for the Adamu Baikis, the Solomon Matankaris who are indegenous Christians of the area. If Hausas/Fulanis complained, Obj’s response was, “all the appointees were your people, brothers from the North”. Of course they were; he even used sme tactics to play a very dangerous divide and rule politics with northerners; his arrow - headmen, Jerry Gana & Solomon Lar were part and parcel of the Villa cabals, members of his kitchen cabinet who determined most appointment made by the government Agencies. Google all the very sensitive position then, there was no single Hausa or Fulani there. CBN, Joseph Sanusi later Soludo. Custom Buba Gyan, NNPC Edmund Dakoru, to mention just a few.

Never forget that OBJ flushed out more than 500 soldiers of Northern extraction, from the ranks of Major and above, who held political appointments during the past military administrations, including orderlies and ADCs. Those who survived his hammer, like Bamalli Nuhu were assembled and bombed in the mountainous region; between Benue and Cross River States.

Obasanjo’s civil service reform were mainly targeted at northerners who mostly, (80%) became victims; from NEPA,Maritime, NPA and Aviation etc. Northerners were major casualties. Similarly all the replacements that followed were from his kiths and kins, and his god sons.

Prior to 1999, more than 15 international airlines operate or had their routes to Kano, but Obasanjo made sure he decimated that to only 3 before he left. Very very fresh in our memories is how he stylishly killed all the Northern textiles, groundnuts and cotton pyramids as well as many other agronomic economies; particularly the poultry using the hoax claim of “birds flu” conspiracy that obliterated all major players in the sector, from northern region. He also deliberately opened our boarders for the importation of all kinds of agricultural goods, which tactically killed virtually all local industries in Kano, Kaduna, Gusau to mention just a few. He stated and ensured DIC and Peugeot and Steyr plants became comatose.virtually all critical northern enterprises were put out of business with deadly attendant consequences.

For example, in Kano alone there were more than 5000 factories / industries located in Challawa, Bompai and Sharada industrial estates. Before Obj’s tenure ended he made sure 80% of those factories folded up, and the remaining 20% were operating at half level, below minimal capacities due to his well designed, well executed, skewed economic policies.

Remember the housing, monetization and privatisation policies he used our people to execute? This program was conceptualised and well executed to basically empower his kiths and Kins to owned choice properties in Abuja and Lagos. The privatisation was used to catapult cronies and surrogates, as well as God sons, into multi-billionaires. People like Mike Adenuga, Fola Adeola, Jimoh Ibrahim, Jim Ovia, Chris and the Andy Ubahs, to mention just a few.

Most of these people were, prior to 1999, using night buses to & fro Lagos/Abuja. Incidentally within a span of short period, all were flying private jets,while the country, North in particular was rapidly sliding backwards. One can continue on and on; why the north and northerners tolerated all that, only God knows.

The current clamor for self determination by some states from previous regions are nothing but blackmails that, to me, are dead on arrival. Rather than experiencing the Obj treatment again, it suffices if every single region go its separate way. The north can not afford to make the 1999 blunder again. Democracy is a game of numbers; anybody who thinks he/she is competent to lead us should come out and contest. The north is not ready to concede to any blackmail.


Hope it is now clear to you?

his 8years in power saw development we had our first lunch to GSM, bankers was remodel, NEPA was re commission Nigeria integrity was high, jobs was available, we had great little stability, we have visions,goals, inquote what remodeling of infrastructure we had more millionaires than ever we had smart people in office not someone that scored 10 in jamb as directors we had educated police men not anyhow police office, we had respect of lives and value. Tell me what has the North achieved in Nigeria

Everybody wants to be seen as contributing. See rubbish. I make efforts to attract FDI to my state then I must share that VAT with lazy governors that will only sit down and wait for allocation. Let all governors go and hustle and create an enabling environment in their state.

When this is implemented, Boko Haram will die a natural death as Governors will not take that shit in their domain anymore. Insecurity drives away business.

Bonesbreaker:
his 8years in power saw development we had our first lunch to GSM, bankers was remodel, NEPA was re commission Nigeria integrity was high, jobs was available, we had great little stability, we have visions,goals, inquote what remodeling of infrastructure we had more millionaires than ever we had smart people in office not someone that scored 10 in jamb as directors we had educated police men not anyhow police office, we had respect of lives and value. Tell me what has the North achieved in Nigeria

privatization will condemn all the silly half baked points you made!

Buhari's administration had something to show to Nigerians in 2019 as their 4 years achievements.
They will have hundred times more things to show Nigerians as their achievements come 2023.

Even In Your land, Buhari's APC have hundreds of achievements including multi billion naira ultra modern highways, bridges, interchanges, airports, seaports, railway lines, power projects, refineries (the one in Ohaji already completed & producing), agricultural projects, industrial parks & help to Igbo businesses to make them global players today (Innoson, Anammco, Choscaris, Air Peace, Oliserve just to name a few) & Ziks Mausoleum etc to show Igbo electorates as their achievements for 8 years.

Where is are Igbos and Yorubas who run PDP & government achievements in Nigeria or Igboland for 16 years they were in charge?

For the past 8 years your tribe & diabolic PDP have no logical, clear nor cohorent intelligent strategy to win back power at the centre or at least get ourselves back into the mainstream of Nigeria's politics.

You are busy doping yourselves with infantile idiocy, making yourselves a stench in the nostrils of other Nigerians with your juvenile insults, abuses & swearings that smacks of lack of home training.

Keep your empty rants...

The North leads...while you keep losing and been frustrated

Ibkhaleel001:
Better in Fraud,Yahoo or cultism?

You sacrifice everyone in your family and community for ritualism at the end you lose everything and become frustrated!


You are Real terrorists, cultists, rapists and criminals in the southern part of Nigeria... You have always spoil the name of Nigeria and have given it bad image, there's nothing they add but the number of prisoners...People dont knw all this because thay have what the North lack – a propaganda machine – and so you think your crimes and character will be hidden different. Forget rabble-rousing journalists and bloggers and social media influencers with you who would want to push the narrative of the “unknown gunmen” (clandestine agents) or shout to the high heavens of being victimised. That never helps in such situations. In most civil wars, crushed sides almost always win propagandas. Please, try to study history, my brother

As you old reach you still dey watch Africa magic. Just stay there dey believe in nonsense while life pass you by. You be like a notorious terrorist for my eye sef