lol. una don commot comparison with SA. now its sbs vs panthers etc? nice

ugo4u:

You're the ignorant person here, and arrogant at your ignorance. Going by your logic one can build groundnut pyramids in Akwa Ibom and spend millions transporting same product from Kano to A.Ibom on bad roads to maintain the pyramids as against building those pyramids in Kano where it's easier to plan for the logistics. You people don't ask questions why private investors don't operate that way only the government.
You're a "Rice producer" indeed.
Ichabod

India is a net importer of oil. Only a dunce uses layman's knowledge and puts out information that are not based on facts.
I did a project at Phillips 66 refinery in New Jersey. Their crude oil came from Canadian producers. The crude oil was piped across international boundaries.
There is a politically sensitive Keystone pipeline in the US that was supposed to carry Canadian oil sands oil to US Refineries.

The Refineries themselves are seen as being in a different industry sector than oil and gas.

The economics of siting of Refineries is complex. Supply chain has a lot to do. Nearness to markets. Political considerations like not being too dependent on a potential enemy. Even existing support infrastructure is a consideration.

So when you post out of ignorance and inferiority or just to put down your country, some of us will educate you.

If you don't know something, shut up about it and don't over simplify

All these talks of FOB and Bases all the time...

Do the Army Engineers exist or they're just confined to desk roles only?

jpphilips:


Taste differ, action packed but poorly scripted, the love story part made it childish.

It did make it childish.

BlackBaron:
All these talks of FOB and Bases all the time...

Do the Army Engineers exist or they're just confined to desk roles only?

I think it's provision of resources to work with that is usually the challenge, they have solid engineers in the army. Infact engineering (Mechanical/Building/Civil/Construction) is one of the strength of the Nigerian army, I've seen some of their officers present excellent technical papers at NSE meetings but what's the use if you don't have the requisite support to implement your plan. Those officers/men manning those FOBs with poor defences that are being overrun don't want to die na if they have the means I believe they will setup a proper perimeter some still use digger/shovels to dig trenches in some FOBs.

RiceProducers:


Not only in Nigeria. India has best and largest Refineries. They don't have oil and have to import it.
The entire industry of putting crude oil inside tankers is based on refineries being far from crude oil production areas.
Refineries can be closer to the downstream markets.

Let's stop posting stuff out of ignorance just to show that we are 'better' than our own country which is often idiotic

India is an oil producer.

Some gunmen suspected to be herdsmen were said to have invaded Apiye Jim Village in the Atyap Chiefdom of Zango-Kataf Local Government Area of Kaduna State, killing 12 persons.

The latest attack, a source said, happened on Sunday evening during a downpour.

Although there was no official confirmation from either the state government or the state Police command, the spokesperson of the Southern Kaduna Peoples Union, SOKAPU, Mr. Luka Binniyat, confirmed the attack to our correspondent on Monday.

Binniyat said, “It is very true. They also killed another man in Atakshusho village about three kilometers from the initial scene of crime as they were retreating to make an escape.

“Recall that an ECWA Reverend was murdered just on the outskirts of Zangon Kataf town, which our people have always complained of harbouring killers, time and again.

“That will bring to 13 those killed in Atyap land, Zangon Kataf LGA. in the past 24 hours.

“As usual, no one has been apprehended. We are awaiting details of the killings, after which we shall issue a statement later today.”



The latest attack was coming in less than 24 hours after the murder of an ECWA Church Pastor, Rev. Silas Yakubu Ali, in the same council on Saturday.


The attackers on Sunday evening were said to have targeted specific houses during the attack.


The source, who craved anonymity, said on Monday that many of the villagers were still missing after the attack, but noted that, so far, no fewer than 11 lifeless bodies had been counted following the attack.

According to him, the attackers came in large numbers and perpetrated the act in a jiffy and immediately escaped from the village.

He added, “They (attackers) came while it was raining and divided themselves into groups. They targeted specific houses and when done, left immediately.

“Scores of the villagers are missing at the moment. It’s impossible for one to ascertain the number of those injured and even those killed; but so far, l have counted and found 11 dead persons in different locations this morning (Monday).


“The Atyapland is left to carry its cross in the hands of the attackers who moved from one village to the another killing, maiming, burning houses and destroying crops in farmlands at will, without being arrested.

“With the various attacks and the occupation of our forest where we cultivate farms for our survival this year, we are busy trying to save ourselves from the attackers as people are not thinking of going to farm.”


https://punchng.com/fresh-kaduna-attack-i-counted-11-bodies-in-different-locations-many-villagers-missing-sokapu-spokesperson/

DaddyGoo:


We ordered (or planned to order) 7 airframes.

Even Boeing was afraid of US Government not approving the sale.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1977-80v17p2/d22

Thanks

No....SBS is at the top of the food chain....Followed by AFSF....

Roan77:


So Naf Panthers are better trained than the SBS?

Roan77:


So Naf Panthers are better trained than the SBS?

Did you follow their discussion at all

ADDRESS BY THE CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF LT GEN F YAHAYA AT THE OPENING CEREMONY OF THE CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF COMBINED SECOND AND THIRD QUARTER CONFERENCE 2021

1. It is my pleasure to welcome you all to Army Headquarters Command Officers’ Mess 1 Abuja for the Chief of Army Staff Combined Second and Third Quarter Conference 2021. As my maiden conference since assuming command as the Chief of Army Staff on 27 May 2021, this event offers an ample opportunity for us to brainstorm and interact on the state of affairs of the Nigerian Army and review our activities for Second and Third Quarters 2021 that are crucial to the stability of our dear country. This is with a view to coming up with new strategies for winning the war against terror and other violent crimes being perpetrated across the Country.

2. As you are aware, I took over command of the Nigerian Army at a very critical period when the nation is facing daunting security challenges characteristic of a volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous environment. This was rightly highlighted by the Commander in Chief, President Muhammadu Buhari, during my first meeting with him. During the meeting, the President reiterated his orders for the Armed Forces to decisively deal with all security challenges facing the Country. Thus, as an Army we must strive to ensure we conduct ourselves professionally and respond adequately to threats against our nation in accordance with the Constitution.

3. In line with the President’s directive and my intent to rebuild the Nigerian Army into a formidable force, I conceived the vision of having “A Professional Nigerian Army Ready to Accomplish Assigned Missions within a Joint Environment in Defence of Nigeria”. Accordingly, it is my belief that my vision would drive my command philosophy which include Professionalism, Readiness, Administration and Cooperation as the cardinal pillars.

4. Professionalism is all encompassing, and it entails returning to the tenets of basic soldiering, adhering strictly to the customs, traditions and ethics of our Army as well as upholding regimentation and emplacing transparent sanctions and rewards system. It also involves the need for discipline and good leadership in all our operations. Discipline entails doing the right thing at the right time and place with or without supervision or prompting in tandem with our ethics, customs and traditions including our dress, salutation and haircut among others. Readiness on its own entails improved training, optimal resourcing, innovation and being proactive. I shall ensure that adequate platforms and equipment are procured both locally and from overseas to engender effective performance of our roles as we improve our maintenance systems to ensure operational successes and longevity of our equipment systems. Administration entails engendering the right attitude and frame of mind that are essential for operational effectiveness. I shall therefore ensure good administration of troops is emplaced to improve morale. We will prioritize welfare of personnel, promote merit, celebrate gallantry, honour our heroes, and support our families. Cooperation entails ensuring synergy at all levels and cordial working relationship with our sister Services, Ministries, Departments and Agencies to achieve our common tasks in defence of Nigeria.

5. We have commenced building bridges across the Services and agencies through robust joint, interagency, and inter-governmental framework to confront our current security challenges. As formation commanders and Principal Staff Officers, your role is critical to the attainment of my vision. As officers and commanders under whose charge are placed men, materiel, and other resources, you are the key drivers of these pillars. You must therefore note that even if we have all we require, we might not achieve much without you providing effective leadership, good attitude and acting professionally in all our conduct, of operations and other activities. I therefore charge you all to immediately key in to my vision so that together, we can take the Nigerian Army to greater heights.

6. I want to state that, the Nigerian Army under my watch will remain resolute and continue to chart progressive paths towards tackling the security challenges confronting the Country. Hence, I have directed that serious attention be given to sustaining and improving the tempo in all ongoing Nigerian Army operations across the Country. I have also directed for the conduct of special operations especially in the North Central and Northwest Regions to address the deteriorating security infractions in the Regions. Commanders must therefore glean from my Command Philosophy to ensure that operational and administrative proficiencies of Nigerian Army units and formations are sustained and improved upon. Commanders must seize initiative and commanders must take initiative, they must take decisive actions to defeat the threats in their respective AORs. I will not again take or accept no excuses. Gentlemen, failure is failure irrespective of the circumstances!!

7. I am aware of logistics constraints affecting operations across the Country and I am glad to inform you that efforts are in progress to provide us with combat enablers that would enhance and boost our operations. Concerted efforts are also being made to eliminate the threat of improvised explosive devices which has been a major impediment to troops and our operations in Operation HADIN KAI. I want to assure you that I am determined to rebuild the fighting skills, capacity, confidence, and morale of our troops across the various theatres of operations. Training must also be given due attention that it deserves. In order to achieve this, priorities for the fourth quarter of the year would include training and more training.

8. I will ensure that through functional training, officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army are equipped with the right attitude, competences and skills to effectively undertake daring missions in addition to developing special operations forces. This would be closely followed by procurement that ensures appropriate kitting and provision of protective gear, weapons, equipment and platforms. Let me however remind you all that while no effort will be spared in achieving these goals, it is command responsibility to ensure the sustenance and maintenance of all equipment. We must therefore strive to improve our maintenance culture to prolong the life span of our platforms and equipment.

9. I have serious concerns and very committed to restoring, developing, and improving the confidence, skills and competences of individual soldier progressively in his career up to Senior Non-Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers levels. I hereby charge Training and Doctrine Command along with the Department of Army Training, Corps and NA Schools to develop additional Leadership Training Modules, Courses and Curriculum to enhance the career of individual soldier. The aim is to develop the individual soldier’s competences to enable conduct his activities more effectively, assert his command and leadership role as Non-Commissioned Officer, Senior Non-Commissioned Officer and Warrant Officer. We need similar additional leadership development Modules and Courses for our young officers to enable them grow as competent, effective leaders and commanders. We can explore officers and soldiers’ leadership training modules from other countries even though we should be alert and to domesticate them to best suit our needs, and our environment.

10. Sound administration of our troops is essential to operational effectiveness and high morale, hence troops’ welfare and that of their families will also be given paramount attention. Welfare is not only limited to monetary incentives or promotion, but it also includes effective and realistic training which would save the troops’ lives and avert injuries. Welfare includes genuine concerns for the troops well being, care and maintenance of their facilities and amenities, easing their challenges and hardship, sharing in their pains and joys, interacting with them humanely and with respect in accordance with the Service provisions. Welfare as part of effective training would include guiding and mentoring of subordinates, appreciating their strength and weaknesses, and being firm and fare to them in all circumstances.

11. At this juncture, let me appreciate all the officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army for their unrelenting sacrifice and efforts in ensuring that the Nigerian Army fulfills its constitutional responsibilities. I will continue to demand that you redouble your efforts so that we can decisively deal with our adversaries or any group or person that threaten the peace and stability of our great nation. In so doing, we will achieve our end state of ensuring a peaceful and stable Nigeria. I will also be using this Conference to give very clear directives of what I expect from all of you.

12. At this point, it is with high sense of responsibility and respect that I wish to express the Nigerian Army’s gratitude once again to the President, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari GCFR, for his strategic guidance and unrelenting support to the Nigerian Army. On behalf of officers and soldiers of the NA, I once more pledge our total commitment to the defence of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

13. It is on this note that I, once again, welcome all the participants, especially our esteem guests and retired senior colleagues whom we have specially invited to glean from their wealth of experience. On this note, it is my honour and privilege to declare the Chief of Army Staff Combined Second and Third Quarter Conference 2021 open.

11. Thank you and God bless.

ugo4u:

I think it's provision of resources to work with that is usually the challenge, they have solid engineers in the army. Infact engineering (Mechanical/Building/Civil/Construction) is one of the strength of the Nigerian army, I've seen some of their officers present excellent technical papers at NSE meetings but what's the use if you don't have the requisite support to implement your plan. Those officers/men manning those FOBs with poor defences that are being overrun don't want to die na if they have the means I believe they will setup a proper perimeter some still use digger/shovels to dig trenches in some FOBs.

They seem to have not adapted in supporting an insurgency where troops are required to move into a new location and a secure base built to deter incursions and so.

They need to shift priorities from just in house projects to actively support the troops on ground.

BlackBaron:

They seem to have not adapted in supporting an insurgency where troops are required to move into a new location and a secure base built to deter incursions and so.

They need to shift priorities from just in house projects to actively support the troops on ground.

I agree

kenpaul0:
No....SBS is at the top of the food chain....Followed by AFSF....

AFSF is at the top of the food chain not NNSBS. AFSF is made up of elite NNSBS, AHSG and other

BlackBaron:
All these talks of FOB and Bases all the time...

Do the Army Engineers exist or they're just confined to desk roles only?

I can confirm this, Army engineers are working full-time. Most of them are university graduates so you dont usually see them in combat they're mostly in workshops fixing vehicles or making them.

kenpaul0:
No....SBS is at the top of the food chain....Followed by AFSF....

Afsf are no longer in service anymore, sadly.

DubaiLandLord1:
Did you follow their discussion at all

No sir, tell me more.

Roan77:


Afsf are no longer in service anymore, sadly.

how? who close it?

JOSCOFELIX:
AFSF is at the top of the food chain not NNSBS. AFSF is made up of elite NNSBS, AHSG and other

Wonderful

JOSCOFELIX:
how? who close it?

Where are they?

ugo4u:

Is that a ditch or a ridge meant for planting Yam.

. . Just imagine. Looking like a dispersed settlement

Roan77:


Where are they?

oga AFSF are still alive an gallant. you can visit the DHQ and go to the special operation forces department. they where majorly use in 2017-early 2019 to overrun strong terrorist base which are very heard for the infantry unit. some of this unit are still in the battle field. i think Arab striker belong to this unit

What's this news I am hearing about a supreme court judgement in Canada indicting the Nigerian Police force? That no policeman in Nigeria can seek assylum in Canada because they're guilty by association.
The image of the Nigerian police force has been effectively damaged it will take the special grace of God and lots of serious reforms to restore the image of that Force... Madam nafeesa wetin dey occur na?

lionel4power:


I can confirm this, Army engineers are working full-time. Most of them are university graduates so you dont usually see them in combat they're mostly in workshops fixing vehicles or making them.

The following are the combat corps in Nigerian Army
1. Infantry
2. Armour
3. Artillery
4. Engineer
5. Signal

All the aforementioned corps be it officer or soldier, they are war lords, Engineer corps are more involved in deep battle.
Sometimes at the front, when jungle matures, the engineer will provide a temporary bridge, in order to maneuver the enemy or when the enemy has cut off the bridge.

Please erase the erroneous misconception that engineer are limited to workshop.

Drefaithful:


The following are the combat corps in Nigerian Army
1. Infantry
2. Armour
3. Artillery
4. Engineer
5. Signal

All the aforementioned corps be it officer or soldier, they are war lords, Engineer corps are more involved in deep battle.
Sometimes at the front, when jungle matures, the engineer will provide a temporary bridge, in order to maneuver the enemy or when the enemy has cut off the bridge.

Please erase the erroneous misconception that engineer are limited to workshop.

Only number 1 to 3 are combat corp (Teeth) the others are supporting arm but that doesn't mean they're all not deployed to the Field even Medical Doctors dey carry rifle follow go patrol.

lionel4power:


I can confirm this, Army engineers are working full-time. Most of them are university graduates so you dont usually see them in combat they're mostly in workshops fixing vehicles or making them.

In my location at Sambisa I know a Major who is usually called C O workshop as his designation.

ugo4u:

So what was the rationale for taking a Naval base to his home state that is the crux of my query, Buratai took a university to his village despite the insecurity in Borno, AVM Sadique built a NAF hospital in his home state, Ihejirika did something similar, now the current CNS despite the fact that their is a similar training base in Kaduna by the same service, tomorrow Amao and current COAS may toe same path & in your mind we shouldn't ask about the reason behind those choices whether it is strategic or purely emotional. Tomorrow someone will wake up and decide to build a military facility in Niger republic & we all he expected not to ask for explanations; even the US and the UK that have the best navies in the world have their Naval bases in their Continental shelves. Ethiopia used to have a navy but had to shut down that arm of service when Eritrea broke out of the country.
Classical zombiesm is a common strain amongst you govt lackies, at your age you are getting stupider with each passing day, the stupider you get the more emotionally unstable you become.
Intellectual Benjamin Button.

I thought the training centre is built specifically for desert warfare training, do we have desert in the South?

Gireiboy:

I thought the training centre is built specifically for desert warfare training, do we have desert in the South?

Nobody is talking about North or South you guys should try and read things in the context it was made, what I am saying is that why was it cited in his home state, was the decision to take the facility there a collective one borne out of genuine reasons or just a unilateral imposition these are the issues not North or South. This is to avoid the situation where projects are just carried out in a location solely because Oga is from there, the CDS may decide to setup a "Rainforest" warfare training centre in his village for the Armed forces and if asked why that was so he will now say are there rainforests in the north? Instead of given us reasons why that decision was taking and what goal it tends to achieve. E.g All of us know the idea of building a Tucano base in Niger state makes alot of sense because of proximity to area of operations in the Northeast/Northwest axis; it will look awkward to build such a base in Lagos or Bayelsa.
I think it won't be a bad idea if we cultivate the habit of asking questions/demanding for accountability from public office holders when certain issues arise.

SamuelAnyawu:


In my location at Sambisa I know a Major who is usually called C O workshop as his designation.

How far kati kati for your end? Any new equipment, ops, or super tucano? Or just lukewarm atmosphere?

Tobiloba24072:


How far kati kati for your end? Any new equipment, ops, or super tucano? Or just lukewarm atmosphere?

Just lukewarm oh. Tho most military guys here are saying in a month time there will be a massive operation in Sambisa.

SamuelAnyawu:


Just lukewarm oh. Tho most military guys here are saying in a month time there will be a massive operation in Sambisa.

oga how far na, i want enter brono but they the say ground no clear. Say iswap don put landmine for some road . Stay safe oo