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| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 11:19am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:I am gonna address your numerous comments in this reply. First off, you keep talking about the North, the North.... I hope you not including the middle belt in your definition because Benue, Kogi, Kwara, and Plateau are not the north. Even Adamawa and Taraba in the geopolitical NE is not north. The north is the rest of the NE and NW. Aboki territory. Also you talk about population of the north been far more than the south. lol. I laugh in Arabic. NE and NW even if you include Taraba and adamawa is still not as populated as the rest of the country. Even if you add the middle belt to the north, yes the population might be higher but it ain't by much. We all know that the NE and NW have inflated fake numbers that don't exist. Secondly, in economic terms the north has always been dependent on the south since almagamation. The British joined the northern and southern protectorate together because the north was in debt and backward so they needed the souths positive balance of payment to support the north. In the first and second republics, every region produced and contributed to the centre. The south was never dependent on the north. infact, the southern regions were always richer than the north with higher GDP. Today the north is like a parasite on the south and middlebelt. You guys always talk about the north feeding the country. First off the investment money the FG puts into agriculture in the north is gotten from southern resources like oil, manufacturing.. The south invests in your agriculture, you sell to us and we buy. You ain't doing us any favours. Whatever money northern states have to spend is mostly gotten from revenue generated from FG resources like oil, VAT, remittances, southern ports.. . You are net gainers, we are net losers. Most northern states will not survive without handout from southern resources and VAT. Your states are built on resources generated in the south. Your GDPs is because of southern money. If Nigeria breaks, you become Niger republic. You boast about having the richest billionaires. A viable country is known by the strength of it's middle class , not it's billionaires. The middle class in this country is more than 85 percent Southerners and middlebelt to a lesser extent. Even in the top richest list, there are more southern billionaires than northern billionaires. Dude let's face it , Nigeria is kinda reflection to the wider world. You can't give what you don't have. There is no single Muslim country in the world that is first world i.e. , technological advances and an economic leader. The poorest countries in Africa are Muslim. The poorest regions in mixed countries with Muslim and christians are the muslim regions. So it's no surprise you guys cannot compete hence you seek to bring the rest of the country down. You have succeeded in ruling because for most of the country's history the north has ruled mostly through military dictatorship and have bled this country dry. Finally, I hear hausa people are the most populous tribe but yet the fulanis who aren't even as many as the ijaws keep ruling for the north and in a good number of the NW and NE states. It's either the hausa population figures is. fraud or the hausa re just dumb. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by KaluwisxPRO: 11:20am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Sirjamo:Import tax is different from sales tax, you pay sales tax in your state, you are usually supposed to add it to your final price of product, then states gets it from your audited account. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 11:23am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:Again i told you from the start the north was forcefully almagamated with the north because the north was in debt and backward. The positive balance of payment of the south was used to support the north. The muslim north you talk about is the NE and NW except Taraba and Adamawa which are not muslim states. Since you so confident in your self sufficiency, fight for regionalism. I dont know how the muslim north won as you say because based on all Human development indices, the NE and NW are the most backward. You guys would have been more backward like your niger and chad brothers if you were your own country. Face fact. Places like kaduna for example have most of its GDP from FG patronage. Virtually a huge chunk of FG angencies, military infrastructure in located in kaduna. Just imagine. All these are funded with FG money gotten from the south; the whole ecosystem from payment of salary down to the lady who sells in a corner shop. Its all there thanks to FG infrastructure located in kaduna state. Kaduna has more FG agencies.. than the south and middlebelt combined. All these funded with southern and middlebelt resources and VAT. After you will tell me that kaduna is at the top. grin. I laugh in fulbe |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 11:25am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:All these essays you keep plucking from where ever is hogwash. Okay, since the Arewa aboki NE and NW are more economically viable and can generate bigger IGRs than most southern states as you say, support resource control for every state with each state contributing a percentage to the centre and support state collection of VAT. Simple ! QED ! But we all know the reality. i repeat the GDP of aboki NE and NW is a function of oil proceeds, VAT; Oil proceeds is from the south and VAT contribution is from the south. Your whole economy is built on southern money. Even your agriculture. The FG invests in agriculture in the aboki NE and NW with money from southern oil proceeds, VAT, remittance payments... Then you sell your products to us. You even supposed to give us food for free. Ungrateful mallams. You claim zamfara IGR is more than alot of southern states. That is simply because zamfara taxes more than those states. IGR is state government revenue from taxation and other fees. The GDP of zamfara is less tham most southern states. Heck, delta state with upwards of 6M people has a higher GDP than kano that claims to have a population of 15M. . I laugh in arabic |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 11:29am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Elvisgolden:oga relax, why did he not say something about the peer that is being destroy in the north . |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 11:29am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:You an olodo oo. The FAAC allocated to the Niger delta is gotten from resources in their region. What is the northern contribution to the federal purse? Tell me. Your GDP is a function of southern resources and VAT. The Nigerian delta militants are fighting for the right to own their land and resources. The not fighting to own Kano or sokoto are they? Unlike your herders that are fighting for the right to destroy people's farms. Meschewwww. If NDDC wastes money, it's not your business. It is their resources from their land. The illegal gold exports from zamfara doesn't benefit the south but your northern elite. Your dirty agriculture depends on southern resources. The south are net losers in Nigeria and the arewa aboki north - NE and NW are net gainers. You contribute nothing. Your agriculture depends on southern money for investment, we in the south and middlebelt now buy from you. It ain't free. If you choose not to sell to us we can buy else where and even grow our food. You all are leeches. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 11:32am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:Mumu. . I laugh in cowrabic |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by Ibkhaleel001: 11:34am On Sep 14, 2021 |
eas01:Online tribalist haters are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA Lagos state-55% FCT. -20% Rivers. - 6% Kano. -5% Kaduna. -1% Unjust hatred for people will consume you. We see the obvious in the very hilarious VAT battle that is happening. I just dey observe. Many supported Governor Wike's decision to be collecting VAT because they say "the North contributes nothing and they want to be collecting". But if they know their facts they will understand that they are digging a hole for themselves. They will realize it is all of us that will suffer when States collect VAT. First of all, after Lagos, the next place that contributes the highest VAT (20%) is the FCT which is in the North. Yes this is followed by Rivers at 6% but Kano is next with 5% and this is followed by Kaduna. So no, it is not as you have been misinformed. The only special case is Lagos. So your State will suffer. Even Lagos will suffer with much more people migrating there. When resources are shared among Federating Units, it is shallow to always think it is injustice. Give Lagos 100% of it's VAT, Mukaila from Sokoto, Chinedu from Aba and even Lasisi from Osun will all migrate there. So what is the point again? |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by Funkadict(m): 11:37am On Sep 14, 2021 |
This guy na half cast abi na cross-breed? |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by Snitch24(m): 11:37am On Sep 14, 2021 |
wink2015:There's level to fraud in this country And as it stands It seems the bigger fraudsters Are bigger than the law All it takes is to belong to a certain political party |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 11:39am On Sep 14, 2021 |
decasey:...and what is the worth of your inconsequential "respect"? |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 11:40am On Sep 14, 2021 |
greatiyk4u:bros outside fashola and tinubu . I like the other two that have ruled Lagos. So my argument here is not all about APC but someone who will do something meaningful and transformation. Not someone waiting for government at d end of month before he or she can perform. Why did he not say something about the beer that is being destroy in the north yet he want wike to share the vat with them, who be MUMU. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 11:42am On Sep 14, 2021 |
mapet:entire bush my friend, did I ask for your opinion. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 11:43am On Sep 14, 2021 |
mrvitalis:..and you think the goods will pass through ports VAT-free? Lagos will not charge transit-tax?Sirjamo: States should collect their vats but, they should tell me which state will collect VAT from me when I import my products through the Lagos ports but I am going to sell my products in Kano, my state of residence.Kano simple |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 11:44am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Elvisgolden:you just too dum, everyone that disagree with you is an ibop member, chai may GOD deliver you |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 11:45am On Sep 14, 2021 |
decasey:Ode cannot even spell.... like I need your permission to tell you how dumb your post is? |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by poiZon: 11:51am On Sep 14, 2021 |
bobowaja:Apart from the lazy northern govrs, the firs officials are also on the losing side thats why they r kicking against it. Imagine generating 1trillion naira as VAT, deduct 10percent or more as production cost abi na working cost. Meanwhile they are being paid for the jobs been done. Nigeria is a funny country. So that's why not just the northerners are against the fed court judgement,but also firs officials are against it cos they won't have access to awoof monies again. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 11:51am On Sep 14, 2021 |
orisa37:I don't know how you people boldly make ignorant statements |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 11:52am On Sep 14, 2021 |
mapet:go ahead tell me slave. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by bobowaja(m): 11:55am On Sep 14, 2021 |
poiZon:Yes they won't have access to awoof monies again. Their bonuses are miles aways from their monthly salaries. They earn fats bonuses. Apart from some side unofficial (corrupt) gigs that brings in money. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by greatiyk4u(m): 11:57am On Sep 14, 2021 |
decasey:You are now changing narrative |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mrvitalis(m): 11:57am On Sep 14, 2021 |
mapet:Lagos can't collect port VAT oga |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by poiZon: 11:58am On Sep 14, 2021 |
Sirjamo:If u import ur stuffs, though i don't know the products u r talking of to ur state kano, na for small kiosk u go put am. There r category of businesses that charges for VAT. VAT isnt for every Tom dick n harry... U can't sell kuli kuli or watermelon for wheelbarrow and expect ur customers to pay VAT. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 12:02pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:My Bros, The larger conversation on VAT collection shows that should we go the way many of the misled people are intending, the likes of Wikes will end-up misleading and making some states worse off. First and foremost, the FG will be the biggest beneficiary. Of all VATs collected, FG is only entitled to 15%. States and LG shares 85%. Of all N1.5 trillion VAT collected last year, ~60% came from the imports which is under the control of FG. There is a difference between VAT collection and IGR of states. If states tune their IGR and more revenues state coming in, then opening for increase in VAT comes in. I find it funny that many proponents do not even have a viable state yet they want to collect VAT within their region. If it's at the price of self sufficiency they cannot stand. I am not even talking about the confusion that will come as a result of multiple taxation by states? Also I find it ridiculous that when countries are centralizing and streamlining their VAT collection system, we are trying to go in reverse mode. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by Nobody: 12:03pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
I'm not surprised!! Wike is really shaking the table perfectly... |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 12:06pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
Zagee:1. This is a good submission. 2. Promoting competition is valid....but dispersed collection of VAT will be messy. 3. It is this kinds of conversation we should be having and not Wike's argument wrapped with ethnic/hate-inducing package. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by decasey(m): 12:07pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
greatiyk4u:you are right but is the crocks of the matter sir. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by eas01: 12:22pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:It seems you are very dumb and don't understand English. The northern states like Kano that are in the top VAT contributors are contributing the VAT gotten from states like rivers and Lagos resources in the form of FAAC which includes VAT as their VAT. Kano and Karina has no money of their own. The money they have is from southern oil wealth, southern seaports, southern remittance of her overseas citizens, southern manufacturing companies.... Abuja is just a gaint sinkhole. The place will not exist if not for it been an FCT. No value in the place. Whatever Abuja has its because of the FG Collects the revenue gotten from southern resources to share. Kaduna is another ridiculous city like Abuja. The place has the most FG agencies after Abuja is not even more than Abuja. Again FG funding gotten from southern resources flowing through there. Your agriculture survives on FG investment again from southern resources. I told you, if you think your cowrabic arewa NW and NE is so great, fight for regionalism. Let's see how far you get. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by mapet: 12:26pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
mrvitalis:I didn't say Lagos will collect VAT? Check again |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by poiZon: 12:26pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
vedaxcool:When obasanjo withheld lagos funds for 2yrs, another govt came in and paid. Even if buhari didn't refund the monies state used in fixing federal roads, another person for come pay am. Wike is fighting for states to be in charge of VAT, victor attah fought for 13percent derivative back then and the abrogation of onshore offshore dichotomy. So many southern states didnt support him, was it tribalistic? This morning we heard hisbah destroyed another trucks of beer, but the same govt are accepting VAT from beer consumption from other states.. No be evil be that? The north claims they have the population, VAT is generally about population density.. With more population, more spending and more VAT. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by poiZon: 12:29pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
mu2sa2:See musa wey no go school o, dey follow talk for nairaland... Gej na u cause am, him for allow those worthless fools be begging than build schools for them. |
| Re: Ajuri Ngelale Knocks Wike: FG Not Taking Niger Delta Money To The North by Sirjamo: 12:52pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
poiZon:You well so? Dem dey import Kulikuli and water melon? |
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