OGUN622:
because we have no history with Kano, we might have with portharcourt but it is not so clear, but there are certainly migrant Edo population in rivers state ( degema and Engenni) they are Edoids group linguistically, and it is in their Orals they migrated from Benin.

Urhobo and Isoko are Edo groups by blood, linguistically and culturally, they share so much similarity with Bini than anyother group in Nigeria because that is what they are ( Edos by ancestry) They have a local name for Bini in their native tongue (Aka) where they migrated from. They are the ones preaching their descent from Bini not the other way round.

There has been some move to downplay Binis influence on precolonial lagos, up till 1850 Lagos paid tribute to the Oba of Benin that is why there is some reinforcement of Opinions on their part, up till the 19th century, Lagos was an integral part of Benin Empire

greenie77:
Make your region investment friendly and your states will also enjoy demands from other parts of Nigeria and your VAT will swell.

Enugupikin:
There is some sense in what he is saying ,Lagos can't stand alone without the rest of Nigeria. Those corporate headquarters too and the ports and all that stems from the Nigerian people

codemaniacs:


Lagos was part of present day Ogun state and part of the Oyo empire and it didn't exist as Lagos before the bri:tish and por:tuguese got there it was called Oko ( farm in Yoruba ) by the Yorubas which the Binis corrupted to Eko ( war camp ) because it was heavily guarded and militarized by the Yorubas..

it is foolish for you to try to revise history and link a part of Oyo empire with another totally different empire in Bini empire.. the binis have never had any influence in any part of the Oyo empire.. the binis only traded with the Yorubas.

inoki247:


So what you're saying if people in USA accept immigrants and dey prosper are u telling me USA should start sending there gain home...

shey na USA say mak u no get conducive environment for business or mak u no create ur own port...

dallasi:


You still never answer the question..Why Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, The Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, and Togo all in coastal boundaries and numerous ports as well are not as rich as Nigerian?

OGUN622:
Lagos was part of Benin Empire, Benin handed Lagos over to the British directly in 1860.

Eko was no corruption of Oko, they do not mean the same thing at all and Eko means war camp in Benin. it was not borrowed at all,quarters with Idumu, Eko and others are colonial relics of Edo on lagos. Families like Obanikoro, Olotu Odibu are families that claim descent from Benin.

"The products of the blacksmith guilds were also means by which the Oba
determined the loyalty or otherwise of a vassal states to Benin kingdom. They were
also the means by which the Oba legitimized the rulers in the vassal states. The
“emblem of authority” or “staff of office” sent by Oba Osemwende (c.1816) to king
Akintoye of Lagos in the course of the 1850s symbolized the Oba’s hegemony over
Lagos and the legitimization of the Akintoye’s reign over his people. The acceptance
of this emblem implied the King of Lagos’ recognition of the over-lordship of the
Oba of Benin; with the obligation of annual tributes to Benin (A.F.C. Ryder, 1977,
p.14)."

codemaniacs:


the foreigner wrote it in 1977 not in the 1800s..

you're quoting a foreigner ... you expect a foreigner to tell the correct history of people the foreigner has no connection with...

In the 1800s, the bri:tish was at war against the Yorubas in Lagos and one of the people fighting them was madame Tinubu, not the Oba of Bini or any Bini warrior..

Years after the death of Madame Tinubu, the foreigners branded her a slave trader in other to demonize her and her legacy....

There is no way any Oba or traditional king or queen in Lagos will accept anything from other Africans as long as it was not a form of trade and they will have to first honor Madame Tinubu before anyone else...

You don't understand the fact that the Bri:tish started the demonizing of Yorubas because of the wars they fought against the Yorubas and attitude the Yorubas had towards the Bri:tish was considered disrespectful by the british...

If Bini empire had influence in Lagos they would have lobbied the bri:tish to build the first school, first college, first hospital e.t.c. in Nigeria in the Bini Empire and also ensured that the Bini empire was the capital of Nigeria..

Don't let foreign revision of history deceive you because it massages your ego...

Yorubas have always had more population than the Binis so it will be foolish for the Binis to try to go to war against the Yorubas whether in pre-colonial times or 2021.

OGUN622:
He is not a foreigner, He is an historian, a world class historian at that, "nor dae spread your ignorance like butter for bread", he used available sources and eye witness account, that is how history is carried out. Lagos was always under the Oba of Benin, There was no history of Lagos outside the Oba of Benin , what we have in our favor is that there are enough eye witness account to buttress this point and we have extensive materials on it in the books. My very last reply to you, I can't be contending what is settled. It is for you to take heart my brother

"The products of the blacksmith guilds were also means by which the Oba
determined the loyalty or otherwise of a vassal states to Benin kingdom. They were
also the means by which the Oba legitimized the rulers in the vassal states. The
“emblem of authority” or “staff of office” sent by Oba Osemwende (c.1816) to king
Akintoye of Lagos in the course of the 1850s symbolized the Oba’s hegemony over
Lagos and the legitimization of the Akintoye’s reign over his people. The acceptance
of this emblem implied the King of Lagos’ recognition of the over-lordship of the
Oba of Benin; with the obligation of annual tributes to Benin (A.F.C. Ryder, 1977,
p.14).

inoki247:



Al this places you mentioned please tell me there population first....

Even Cotonue na we use am pass how many people dey dere country wey wan patronize dere port...

and if security for North na same thing laik SW u think people will be using the port the way dey du....

Uchek:
That is not the issue. Every region/state will survive. If small countries like Togo, Benin Republic and Ghana are surviving, why wouldn't Lagos, with a bigger population, survive?

Do you even understand the meaning of the word SURVIVE?
This is not another Yoruba-Ndigbo online fight. Where did you dereive your 75% and 85% statistic that you are giddily quoting. Is from a official government statistic from study on the ethnic distribution of Nigerian importers and ownership of properties in Lagos? Did you conduct a personal survey to arrive at this figure or you are just vomitting your own bias?

This is reality and u know d truth.Togo and Benin depends on Nigeria a whole lot.We use their ports,buy their fruits and their products.Go and carry out ur survey.Like wise Lagos too.All the big markets are majorly owned and operated by ndiigbo.The truth hurts buh it's d only remedy

pacespot:


How do you arrive at these your statistics Mr ndigbo?

cocolacec:


Didnt Lagos exist before Ndigbo troop into the state?Lagos is a Yorubaland of opportunities and possiblities and that has attracted many tribes including foreigners to the city.Igbos are nothing without Lagos not the other way round.

God and Yorubas and its foresighted leaders are responsible for Lagos success past,present and future.The Yoruba youths are tolerant,peaceful not like the Northern or Eastern youths.

How come Igboland is desolate and not as vibrant like Lagos, if Ndigbos have All it takes to make a city great.why cant Ndigbos littered across the North make it great as well as your Igboland?Igbos could start trading with Seaports in onne and warri which is closer,these ports operate at low capacity.

It is just like Yorubas saying they made America great as if it wasnt a land of opportunities in the first place.

Lagos is great because of the massive foreign entrance and Yoruba drive for investment in the city.Most of these taxes are paid by big companies not your spare parts dealers or kiosk you call shops littered across lagos.

One Nigeria is an anomally to the Yoruba kingdom.The Nigerian unitary system only steals Yoruba money to benefit others.We either go back to regional govt or split Nigeria along ethnic lines like Europeans.

SmartPolician:


Ogbeni, leave the Igbos out of your madness.

Focus on the topic.

OneTemplate:



Lol. I can tell you for free that the first sign of a loser is that he remains fixated on dubious past glory perhaps because he is nothing in the present and knows he will remain nothing. Hence the need to create fantasies about the past.

Even indulging your idiotic revisionism, why is an Edo not Governor of Lagos today and why no single Lagos State Senator or Rep who is Edo?

How many local Government chairman in Lagos of Edo origin? Why is Lagos State legislative house not full of Edos? Loser.

Iamgrey5:
Your argument even as half-witted as it sounds defeats the logic behind the argument.

So can the native americans now claim America from the Europeans that once were settlers as you claim?

Can the Blacks now claim they own Egypt without the Arabs throwing them out?

So what makes you think the original "Edo owners" can chase the "Yoruba from Ogbomoso" away from Lagos today?

Having said that, idumota is not the only place in Lagos

What about Abule Egba, Ikoyi, Epe, ikorodu, Ajegule etc..

What is the Edo names of those places?

dallasi:


You still never answer the question..Why Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, The Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, and Togo all in coastal boundaries and numerous ports as well are not as rich as Nigerian?

Laragirl:


We south south don't need south west to grow

Goke7:


Lagos and Rivers will continue to thrive because they are on the coast, we need to ask questions about delta, Bayelsa, and other coastal states what have they been doing. No one is preventing other coastal states from thriving, let's stop the lies, who has stopped Akwa-Ibom so far? none

Goke7:


Lagos and Rivers will continue to thrive because they are on the coast, we need to ask questions about delta, Bayelsa, and other coastal states what have they been doing. No one is preventing other coastal states from thriving, let's stop the lies, who has stopped Akwa-Ibom so far? none

Verysmart101:


Go to Anambra state and see how developed it is.Which bloody one Nigeria is anomally to yorubad kingdom.Which yourbad youth is tolerance while majority of them are thouts and alayes and omonile or do u wanna deny? Your traditional rulers (baale's) are greedy set of people.Always extorting anyone that is building houses.Do u wanna deny that?

OGUN622:
Lagos was part of Benin Empire, Benin handed Lagos over to the British directly in 1860.

Eko was no corruption of Oko, they do not mean the same thing at all and Eko means war camp in Benin. it was not borrowed at all,quarters with Idumu as prefix, Eko and others are colonial relics of Edo on lagos. Families like Obanikoro, Olotu Odibu are families that claim descent from Benin.

"The products of the blacksmith guilds were also means by which the Oba
determined the loyalty or otherwise of a vassal states to Benin kingdom. They were
also the means by which the Oba legitimized the rulers in the vassal states. The
“emblem of authority” or “staff of office” sent by Oba Osemwende (c.1816) to king
Akintoye of Lagos in the course of the 1850s symbolized the Oba’s hegemony over
Lagos and the legitimization of the Akintoye’s reign over his people. The acceptance
of this emblem implied the King of Lagos’ recognition of the over-lordship of the
Oba of Benin; with the obligation of annual tributes to Benin (A.F.C. Ryder, 1977,
p.14)."

dallasi:
Why Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, The Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, and Togo all in coastal boundaries and numerous ports as well are not as rich as Nigerian?

All those southern hyping about Ports over to you

Newton85:
Burkina Faso, Mali, and Mauritania have access to the coasts?

Newton85:
The Benin Kingdom was an "Empire"? Since when? And please, which Lagos was part of the Benin "Empire"? You mean all Awori lands and the Ijebu-affiliated places like Ikorodu, Epe, Ibeju etc were under the Benin "Empire"? Even when it's the Awori Idejo chiefs that own the lands in Lagos Island and not the Oba of Lagos Island? Are you okay in the head at all?

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Those countries don't know how to utilize what they have.