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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:50am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
You are not critixising constructively.
So, asking Bruno to take calculated risk and help us in retaining possession is me hating on Bruno? Okay o!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:50am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
For someone that accuses others of having an agenda against Bruno, your take on Pogba is laughable...

In the games we have performed well this season, was Pogba out wide?
I wonder why your talk is not why pogba will not drift in a bit into the middle to help Mcfred or is he immune from helping the deffiecient Mcfred? Abi na only Bruno go sabi sniff the need to help. Why is Pogba in the LW not helping? I haven't seen you demand that. Constructive Criticizer ko, Catapillar critisizer
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:52am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
So, asking Bruno to take calculated risk and help us in retaining possession is me hating on Bruno? Okay o!
Why will pogba not drift from the left and help?, since you yourself have admitted that he is useless there. You want someone who is doing creditably well in his position to take calculated risk, but someone who is a lame duck in his position should remain there and be eating salad.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:56am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
I wonder why your talk is not why pogba will not drift in a bit into the middle to help Mcfred or is he immune from helping the deffiecient Mcfred? Abi na only Bruno go sabi sniff the need to help. Why is Pogba in the LW not helping? I haven't seen you demand that. Constructive Criticizer ko, Catapillar critisizer
Pogba has been dragged time and time again here...I have even suggested that Ole benches him and play VDB if he is not going to sign a new deal...


Left for me, I will play Fred as the DM with Pogba and VDB ahead of him while Bruno plays as the AM behind Ronaldo and Greenwood but since Ole is hell bent on McFred, Bruno has to support them.

If Pogba keeps leaving his position (LW) to the middle, we will be too narrow and I think lately teams have noticed that hence are taking advantage of Pogba out wide...

Ole takes the blame in all of this to be honest but the players too have to up their game, it's the best we can hope for because Ole will never improve.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:57am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
Why will pogba not drift from the left and help?, since you yourself have admitted that he is useless there. You want someone who is doing creditably well in his position to take calculated risk, but someone who is a lame duck in his position should remain there and be eating salad.
Pogba has been better than Bruno this season though...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:01am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
In that game, he sort of had a free role and the movement from Greenwood and Bruno was top notch...
I thought you said the games pogba played from the left we are useless? There was nothing top notch in Greenwood and Bruno movements, they played their normal game, of the 4 assists pogba delivered in that match, only 1 was from the left, the other 3 came from the centre, infact Greenwood goal came from central deep end.
You are trying hard to pin the teams poor organisation and the failure of 2 players saddled to play one person's position to a player who is doing his job and even occasionally dropping back to mark.

Pogba is inconsistent thats just the truth, in the 8 matches he played so far on 2 matches he bothered to turn up, the rest he was uninterested and that has been the story of his career in Man United, i dont need you to agree to that
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:03am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
Pogba has been better than Bruno this season though...
Really? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked I have nothing to say to you. I think you dont watch matches you listen to Brila FM
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 10:04am On Sep 27, 2021
Pogba agenda again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:04am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
Really? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked I have nothing to say to you. I think you dont watch matches you listen to Brila FM
Okay.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:06am On Sep 27, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Now it's no big deal, but you wan crucify Bruno for stat padding (according you agendist). You are not doing well at all....
Did you read the post I quoted? Try to understand the convo before quoting posts.

Bants aside, I don’t hate any Utd player, I only supported the Bruno Agenda yesterday because it looks like he is the only player in the team that must never be criticized. His assists and goals are very helpful and infact should be the main output from him (an AM).

That said, everyone knows that we have a useless manager, the midfield is shit because of him, then, maybe it’s time for key players to start using their brains. E.g. when we play McFred, both are closer to the defence which means there is a huge gulf in the midfield. Can we have some of our Forwards (including Bruno) withdraw slightly to help bridge the gap? That might help stabilize our play and probably give the team the opportunity to create clear cut chances. Most of the passes from Bruno are rushed and inaccurate, we could cut the excesses by controlling the midfield. Do you guys watch other teams play? Have you seen any of their AMs rush forward passes? Rather than releasing passes quickly and losing possession as soon as the ball gets to the midfield, we can consider keeping the ball for some time.

OGS is still here, if we continue to play like this, midfield play will not exist, we would do more of defence to attack football. Of course Ronaldo will score some goals, Bruno and Pogba will rack up assists, but we won’t win a spoon, infact we might lose the fourpy trophy that OGS guarantees because other teams will continue to evolve. Remember the silly draws and 1-0 wins last season? They will become losses and draws respectively.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:07am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
Pogba has been dragged time and time again here...I have even suggested that Ole benches him and play VDB if he is not going to sign a new deal...


Left for me, I will play Fred as the DM with Pogba and VDB ahead of him while Bruno plays as the AM behind Ronaldo and Greenwood but since Ole is hell bent on McFred, Bruno has to support them.

If Pogba keeps leaving his position (LW) to the middle, we will be too narrow and I think lately teams have noticed that hence are taking advantage of Pogba out wide...

Ole takes the blame in all of this to be honest but the players too have to up their game, it's the best we can hope for because Ole will never improve.
But i thought you said we are not effective whenever Pogba plays from the left? So why not him kukuma leaving that position thats not working and join in rescuing Mcfred from Ramsey and Mcginn. You support Pogba staying put in the LW but Bruno is an Idio.t for daring to do his work effectively. Ok oo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:08am On Sep 27, 2021
I have seen people criticizing Messi and Ronaldo even though they have both been fantastic for more than a decade but Bruno that is nowhere near their level is deemed the perfect footballer by his fan boys...

I no blame una, na the level wey Ole don drag this club reach...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:09am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
I wonder why your talk is not why pogba will not drift in a bit into the middle to help Mcfred or is he immune from helping the deffiecient Mcfred? Abi na only Bruno go sabi sniff the need to help. Why is Pogba in the LW not helping? I haven't seen you demand that. Constructive Criticizer ko, Catapillar critisizer
Pogba does this once in a while, problem is when this happens, the left wing is empty.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:10am On Sep 27, 2021
odizeey:
Pogba agenda again.
Nobody is having pogba agenda. The issue is Bruno who is creating the highest number of chances in the EPL should go and help Mcfred battle Ramsey and Mcginn, or against wolves Moutinho and Neves. But Pogba who played from the left should never try that. Make we de talk true sometimes na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:11am On Sep 27, 2021
nitrogen:
Pogba does this once in a while, problem is when this happens, the left wing is empty.
Left which win empty? The same wing we are told he is ineffective in and the reason for his anonymous performance for like 5 matches now. Ok oo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:11am On Sep 27, 2021
Sniper4real:
Them never lash Varane. cheesy
Ephraim's got you covered grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:12am On Sep 27, 2021
nitrogen:
Lol, you be bad guy. cheesy cheesy
You na Bruno you dey drag na grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:12am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
But i thought you said we are not effective whenever Pogba plays from the left? So why not him kukuma leaving that position thats not working and join in rescuing Mcfred from Ramsey and Mcginn. You support Pogba staying put in the LW but Bruno is an Idio.t for daring to do his work effectively. Ok oo
I am not in support of Pogba playing on the wings, you must have seen me critique Ole for that. I am not not a fan of McFred...Pogba should be play as a LCM in a midfield 3 alongside Fred/McTom/Matic and VDB but Ole is clueless...We have failed to stretch the play because we have Pogb a out wide rather than a natural winger. It must have worked against Leeds as they leave a lot of space and Bielsa is too stubborn to change tactics but subsequently teams have found us out...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:12am On Sep 27, 2021
If you ask them to mention any AM better than Bruno in EPL, they go dodge the question

grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:13am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
Nobody is having pogba agenda. The issue is Bruno who is creating the highest number of chances in the EPL should go and help Mcfred battle Ramsey and Mcginn, or against wolves Moutinho and Neves. But Pogba who played from the left should never try that. Make we de talk true sometimes na
For you, every thing na Pogba vs Bruno...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 10:14am On Sep 27, 2021
larride:
How is an AM statpading with chance creation, goals and assist?

What do you want him to statpad? Tackles and interception? angry

Please walk me through your thought process.
Statpadding is not the problem here, the problem is that Bruno doesn't know when we need to calm the ball down and have some control. His hastiness in trying to find the killer pass immediately the ball touches his feet is losing us possession, the passes are mostly misplaced, miskicked, or intercepted. Having a bit of control before attempting any high-risk pass ensures the player is a lot relaxed, having been in control for some time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:14am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
Left which win empty? The same wing we are told he is ineffective in and the reason for his anonymous performance for like 5 matches now. Ok oo
So, you think playing on the left wing is just about attacking? If the wing is empty, who will help Shaw when opponents have the ball?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:14am On Sep 27, 2021
nitrogen:
Did you read the post I quoted? Try to understand the convo before quoting posts.

Bants aside, I don’t hate any Utd player, I only supported the Bruno Agenda yesterday because it looks like he is the only player in the team that must never be criticized. His assists and goals are very helpful and infact should be the main output from him (an AM).

That said, everyone knows that we have a useless manager, the midfield is shit because of him, then, maybe it’s time for key players to start using their brains. E.g. when we play McFred, both are closer to the defence which means there is a huge gulf in the midfield. Can we have some of our Forwards (including Bruno) withdraw slightly to help bridge the gap? That might help stabilize our play and probably give the team the opportunity to create clear cut chances. Most of the passes from Bruno are rushed and inaccurate, we could cut the excesses by controlling the midfield. Do you guys watch other teams play? Have you seen any of their AMs rush forward passes? Rather than releasing passes quickly and losing possession as soon as the ball gets to the midfield, we can consider keeping the ball for some time.

OGS is still here, if we continue to play like this, midfield play will not exist, we would do more of defence to attack football. Of course Ronaldo will score some goals, Bruno and Pogba will rack up assists, but we won’t win a spoon, infact we might lose the fourpy trophy that OGS guarantees because other teams will continue to evolve. Remember the silly draws and 1-0 wins last season? They will become losses and draws respectively.
You are not happy with Bruno and I have loads of people like you in twitter, you are a pogba apologist and no shame in that. But stop hiding under disguise and be setting up an agenda against someone else. Same way Martial fans hate on Rashford.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:15am On Sep 27, 2021
melodyogonna:
Statpadding is not the problem here, the problem is that Bruno doesn't know when we need to calm the ball down and have some control. His hastiness in trying to find the killer pass immediately the ball touches his feet is the ball is losing us possession, the passes are mostly misplaced, miskicked, or intercepted. Having a bit of control before attempting any high-risk pass ensures the player is a lot relaxed, having been in control for some time.
Don’t know why this is so complex for people to understand. I have no idea what’s going here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:16am On Sep 27, 2021
DeadPresidents:
It’s village market square level lunacy to keep insisting an AM in a counter-attacking system should be involved in “controlling the midfield”

We have two able bodied men in the midfield that were unable to string three consecutive passes between each other, but we must blame the AM or be labeled, “Bruno cultists”


It’s really annoying for me when my Madrid supporting friend keeps laughing about our “2-in-1 DM that can’t pass “ and i know that man is spitting facts.

This is sheer lunacy!!
grin grin

Just pure agenda, nothing else.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:17am On Sep 27, 2021
Let's not forget that this argument popped up because some of us feel we don't keep the ball as well as we should. We lose possession too easily and that was why Bruno's name popped up.

Bruno fan boys are bringing up goals and assist contribution rather than focus on how best we can retain possession...

Manchester City have two potent weapon, their press and ball retention...If you don't have the ball, you can't hurt them...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:18am On Sep 27, 2021
Sniper4real:
Them never lash Varane. cheesy
Wait for it. They would soon say we should bring back Bailly or Jones to the starting line up, that he is drawing us back since he(Varane), is not helping Ronaldo and Greenwood score or he cant help Sancho beat his man
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:18am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
You are not happy with Bruno and I have loads of people like you in twitter, you are a pogba apologist and no shame in that. But stop hiding under disguise and be setting up an agenda against someone else. Same way Martial fans hate on Rashford.
Lol, na you sabi. I don’t hate any Utd player, even McFred, I still find ways to support them. Yes, I have favourites in the team (including Greenwood that you did not want me to criticize a few days ago), it still does not mean that I should hate the other players. Ole is my problem.

If you think otherwise, that’s your pot of soup, lick and drink it!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:19am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
You are not happy with Bruno and I have loads of people like you in twitter, you are a pogba apologist and no shame in that. But stop hiding under disguise and be setting up an agenda against someone else. Same way Martial fans hate on Rashford.
You read all that and came up with this response? It's obvious you didn't read or didn't comprehend what you read...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:20am On Sep 27, 2021
patrickmuf:
Let's not forget that this argument popped up because some of us feel we don't keep the ball as well as we should. We lose possession too easily and that was why Bruno's name popped up.

Bruno fan boys are bringing up goals and assist contribution rather than focus on how best we can retain possession...

Manchester City have two potent weapon, their press and ball retention...If you don't have the ball, you can't hurt them...
Yes since Pogba, Fred and Mctoms cannot cordinate the midfield even Ronaldo and Greenwood should join in helping coordinate the midfield
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:21am On Sep 27, 2021
Expert17:
If you ask them to mention any AM better than Bruno in EPL, they go dodge the question

grin grin
That's because for you, everything is all about stat...Iniesta shits on Bruno but stat will say otherwise...

KDB and Gundogan are better but you will pull up stats to argue otherwise...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:22am On Sep 27, 2021
CapitalCee:
Yes since Pogba, Fred and Mctoms cannot cordinate the midfield even Ronaldo and Greenwood should join in helping coordinate the midfield
Do you even read posts? Pogba on the wing is not Pogba + McFred in the midfield.

Mehn, I am done with this guy.
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