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Reflect7:
Here is a drawing of 15th century Benin City, roughly 300 years before colonialism.

Who do you see wearing leaves?

https://blog.britishmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Dapper-image-crop-version-2.jpg




High school dropout alert.

All the information you read (assuming you could understand it) went in through one ear and out the other.

Dumb and dumber.

YES we did actually engage in exports and international trade prior to colonialism, you brainwashed dunce who thinks he is a 'monkey'.

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Excerpt:

IN THE 17th CENTURY, PORTUGAL BANNED THE IMPORTATION OF NIGERIAN MANUFACTURED SOAP, TO PROTECT HER LOCAL INDUSTRIES

This story is a stunning opposite of the type of news we hear today, where it is African countries who try to ban imports of foreign manufactured goods to protect their local industries.

In the 17th century, soap was manufactured in Nigeria on an industrial scale, and exported across the world, especially to Europe, as people on that continent, emerging from their Dark Ages and into the Renaissance, slowly came to realise the importance of bathing and washing.

This led to very high demand for imported manufactured soap and soap products, since Portugal lacked any meaningful soap manufacturing industry, and lacked the technical know-how to manufacture this important product.

They turned to the people of present day NIGERIA, to provide them with this much needed manufactured product, as the industry was flourishing in that part of the world.

This trade dominance by Nigeria eventually became such a threat to the Portuguese economy that the Portuguese leaders place an outright BAN on Nigerian and West African manufactured soap products in order to encourage local production, protect her local industries, and reduce unemployment in Portugal.

According to researchers:

''The forest people of Nigeria are believed to have developed the soap production industry. Soap production was on such a large scale in the 17th century that Portugal had to ban the importation of West African soap in order to protect their soap-boiling industry.''

The indigenous techniques in soap making were produced in several communities through the use of materials such as ashes, palm oil, cocoa pods and water. It was an industry worked mainly by women. In addition, black soap was believed to be of high medicinal value especially among the Yoruba and Igbo communities.''


Source - AN OVERVIEW OF INDIGENOUS INDUSTRIES IN NIGERIA, by Victor Eshameh, Gifted Minds Writers Firm, Research Dept, 2016

Reflect7:
This alone is the start of your miseducation.

This statement is symptomatic of how DISGRACEFULLY IGNORANT you and so many Nigerians are about your history.

Are you aware that the entire southern and northern Nigeria was a vast textile manufacturing hub before the whites invaded?

And that the colonialists destroyed the industry so we could buy textiles from Europe instead?

Are you aware that We exported soap to Europe before colonisation, because THEY had no soap industry?

Are you aware that Italy had to BAN imported Nigerian SOAP in the 1800s in order to protect the young Italian soap manufacturing industry?

Are you aware that BENIN CITY had street lights and underground drainage a full 300 years before London?

Are you aware that the Benin Empire exchanged ambassadors with Portugal as early as the late 1490s?

Are you aware that in BENIN today sits the largest structure ever constructed by man, the Benin Earthworks and Military Ramparts?

Described by the Guinness Book of Records as "the world's largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era"?

According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops”.

Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Are you aware that BENIN CITY, which was essentially the capital of ancient southern Nigeria, was described by European visitors from the 1500s as one of the most beautiful cities in the entire world?

A city where crime was non-existent, and people saw no need to build front doors to their houses?

''Indeed, they classified Benin City as one of the most beautiful and best planned cities in the world.

In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

In contrast, London at the same time is described by Bruce Holsinger, professor of English at the University of Virginia, as being a city of “thievery, prostitution, murder, bribery and a thriving black market made the medieval city ripe for exploitation by those with a skill for the quick blade or picking a pocket”.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

You see, until you NIGERIANS are mentally decolonised and RECONNECTED WITH YOUR HISTORY, and remember who you really are, rather than who the colonialists told you you were, you will continue to wallow in ignorance, self hate, pessimism, racial inferiority complex, and moral debasement.

mightyhaze:
And it took the white men to discover and put all these 'facts' to paper for us.

Why did we not discover them in their own country and put their acheivements on paper like they did for us..?

More like an adult legend hyping a little baby that just said 'dada' for the first time


The whites will praise your little acheivements... Don't let it get into that thick black skull

Imagine people that have developed sophisticated carbines, sailing ships, bicycles etc. People that have circumnavigated the world , fought several land and sea wars intra/intercontinental,several centuries before discovering you inside your dark forests,..hyping you that was still fighting wars with your bare hairy hands ,still moving with thick callused feet and in some cases,porterage for elites .. and u have the spunk to say they stole technologies from you..

Sicilyjoe:
But las las u were captured like money and use as a slave, over sabi, empty Brain

Sicilyjoe:
Poster stop that nonsense, with out white u will be wearing leaves, export KO import ni, after all that u were ship like monkeys to overseas as a slave

Idiko1:
Shut up your putrid mouth. Since the after the independence, the hub of textile manufacturing disappeared into the space. Anybody who heeded the advise of a foreigner to abandon things native to him/her is a basement fool.

Isobug:
Nonsense..... What he said is true



Did you manufacture the machine you used to produce the Textile then or did it fall from the sky?

Sicilyjoe:
But las las u were captured like money and use as a slave, over sabi, empty Brain

theTranscriber:
Europeans never captured slaves
the coastal Ethnic groups captured and sold them!
READ! READ!

ILLITERATES EVERYWHERE!!

AchalugoNwa:
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Mynd44 oamj4 lalasticlacla Rule 2

theTranscriber:
have you heard of the loom?
where else in the whole world is aso-oke made?

blacks must always self hate!
I'm sorry for you!

Reflect7:
If you spoke to the elders in your village, they would tell you even more facts. The whites are simply relating what they observed. How is that your problem?



WE DID.

Ever heard of the Moors?

Are you aware that black West Africans ruled many parts of Europe between the 11th and 17th centuries, bringing literacy, architecture, and civilized habits like regular bathing to the Europeans?

If you want to talk about HISTORY, we can go back really far.




Don't project your inferiority complex unto us.



Your problem is that you are an unread historical illiterate.

There were no bicycles and 'sophisticated carbines' in the 14th century when the Europeans first 'discovered' Benin.

Bicycles were first built in the 1860s.

So to say they had 'bicycles' when they 'discovered us in our dark forest', says you are a self-hating ignoramus with nothing upstairs.

Sailing ships?

Black Africans began seafaring, and ''circumnavigated the Earth'' thousands of years before white people did.

''In 1825, Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed.''

As for wars, like the rest of the world outside Europe, Africans used the weapons of war all had used for millenia. Mocking that is a sign of your debasement.

BornRicch:
You're very slow. You should be ashamed of yourself and your entire generation because Bini and Yoruba no be mate. Whenever you wake up in the morning say a prayer to the queen of England. British made you people today you get mouth to talk about Bini. Make Ogun kill you there. I'm sure you be Tao that vagabond spreading lies on the internet.

theTranscriber:
Europeans never captured slaves
the coastal Ethnic groups captured and sold them!
READ! READ!

ILLITERATES EVERYWHERE!!

theTranscriber:
Europeans never captured slaves
the coastal Ethnic groups captured and sold them!
READ! READ!

ILLITERATES EVERYWHERE!!

Reflect7:
If you weren't a bumbling dunce with the faculties of a gnat, you would realise that a simple research study showing the Benin Wall was 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China, would obviously have involved taking measurements that concluded same.

And to counter that by saying the Benin wall was ''not anywhere near'' the Great China Wall?

Pray, what does ''anywhere near'' mean exactly?

Are you saying it wasn't 4 times longer?

Are you disputing the research, and if so, based on what counter-study?

My goodness.

Reflect7:
What has this drivel got to do with the topic?

Utterly irrelevant, in addition to being puerile claims pulled out of Uranus.

Reflect7:
Take your ''Igbo versus everyone else'' mindset and return to your spare parts shop where you really belong.

Reflect7:
Actually, the scholarly research I posted stated that the Benin Wall was ''4 times longer than the Great Wall of China.''

Not ''older''.

Not ''bigger'' (whatever 'bigger' means).

This basic error in comprehension betrays your intellectual ineptitude.

I am done with you, and will not discuss your other 'points'.

You are a high school dropout.

Not that that is a bad thing in itself, if you had some humility and willingness to learn.

This thread is for educated people, not pompous neophytes.

Sicilyjoe:
Lol, keep deceiving ur self

BornRicch:
So you think Europeans capture slave by themselves? Use your brain think don't be dumb. Do you want them to die of Malaria and other diseases inside the rainforest of West Africa?

VEHINTOLAR:
Typical ! Your disjointed trash above is nothing but just another childish emotional outburst as expected; it's laughable though. I'm not in anyway displeased by your caustic diatribes and senseless tantrums; it's a function of your very low IQ. You can't see the big picture when what you have is a miserable small screen !

You're nothing but the slowest of all slowpoke; an irritant at best ! You and who " no be mate" ? Where were your progenitors and your dead Ogisos as at the time the great sons and daughters of Oodua were setting paces and achieving groundbreaking successes in all fields of human endeavors ? Obviously, your primitive forebears were still hobnobbing with some cannibals in the evil forest of "ile Ibinu".

Like I said earlier, what you need in your pitiable life is education. Learn,task the little whitish substance in your orangutan-like head and put it into some productive use. Perhaps, you'll begin to see things in their rightful perspective and stop reasoning like a cave man that you're actually. There is no basis for any kind of comparison or superiority contest between the great ,well informed and highly sophisticated Yoruba and your Bini tribe. It is an insult for anyone to even attempt such; the pace setting records of the Yoruba, not only in Nigeria but Africa as a whole,are there for all to see. Go and ask your elders about the Eweka dynasty in your Kingdom. Their Progenitor, Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba Prince from Ile Ife, brought civilisation to Igodomigodo land. Yoruba influence and culture will forever be visible at the palace of Oba of Benin; it can't be changed as you can't change the history as well !

Mumu,you even tried to invoke the spirit of Ogun against me,lol ! You see your ignorant life ? How would you,a stranger,call on Ogun to attack one of his descendants ? Do you think Ogun l'aka aye osin mole,onile kangun,kangun ona orun,was a Bini man while he was alive ? You're stupid ! That you even know Ogun,a Yoruba deity,is one of the numerous Yoruba influences we are talking about ! Ogun was a Yoruba man and he is a Yoruba deity now; a god !

Tao ? Who is Tao ? Ode,Tao ko,Taofiki ni ! E be like say you and that your yeye Tao no well at all !

I'm done with you fool; you ain't worthy of my time. Now,crawl back into whatever hole you came out from and remain dumber than you're there already !



I don't have time to read your concoction. Tell those lies to your people, not me. All I know Yoruba was a slave and they will forever be known as slave all over the world. Benin Edo State is better than all Yoruba States minus Lagos because it belongs to us. Your oduduwa lie will forever be debunked because no human on earth can fall from the sky. The biggest joke of the world. Even Jesus no fall from sky. Tell me where your Oduduwa come from? Ife is a village and it can never be in the same sentence or breathe with Bini. We ruled all the Southern Nigeria. Your people are slave to us. Say hi to the queen of England.

VEHINTOLAR:
Typical ! Your disjointed trash above is nothing but just another childish emotional outburst as expected; it's laughable though. I'm not in anyway displeased by your caustic diatribes and senseless tantrums; it's a function of your very low IQ. You can't see the big picture when what you have is a miserable small screen !

You're nothing but the slowest of all slowpoke; an irritant at best ! You and who " no be mate" ? Where were your progenitors and your dead Ogisos as at the time the great sons and daughters of Oodua were setting paces and achieving groundbreaking successes in all fields of human endeavors ? Obviously, your primitive forebears were still hobnobbing with some cannibals in the evil forest of "ile Ibinu".

Like I said earlier, what you need in your pitiable life is education. Learn,task the little whitish substance in your orangutan-like head and put it into some productive use. Perhaps, you'll begin to see things in their rightful perspective and stop reasoning like a cave man that you're actually. There is no basis for any kind of comparison or superiority contest between the great ,well informed and highly sophisticated Yoruba and your Bini tribe. It is an insult for anyone to even attempt such; the pace setting records of the Yoruba, not only in Nigeria but Africa as a whole,are there for all to see. Go and ask your elders about the Eweka dynasty in your Kingdom. Their Progenitor, Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba Prince from Ile Ife, brought civilisation to Igodomigodo land. Yoruba influence and culture will forever be visible at the palace of Oba of Benin; it can't be changed as you can't change the history as well !

Mumu,you even tried to invoke the spirit of Ogun against me,lol ! You see your ignorant life ? How would you,a stranger,call on Ogun to attack one of his descendants ? Do you think Ogun l'aka aye osin mole,onile kangun,kangun ona orun,was a Bini man while he was alive ? You're stupid ! That you even know Ogun,a Yoruba deity,is one of the numerous Yoruba influences we are talking about ! Ogun was a Yoruba man and he is a Yoruba deity now; a god !

Tao ? Who is Tao ? Ode,Tao ko,Taofiki ni ! E be like say you and that your yeye Tao no well at all !

I'm done with you fool; you ain't worthy of my time. Now,crawl back into whatever hole you came out from and remain dumber than you're there already !

OfficialAPCNig:
That's it. Beside insulting someone that'll feed their miserable lives, they have nothing else to offer.

The Great Wall of China is over 21,000 KM long while they estimated the Benin wall to be 16,000 KM.

Even the source you quoted used the word "perhaps" because they are not sure and you are here passing it out as fact.

Sicilyjoe:
The poster is mumu man, even uptill now the matches we use here is still produce in India and China, so European walk with legs to African ?

mightyhaze:
nice effort,despite the juvenile insults and tantrums.. But assuming a fraction of what you say here is true,then isn't it a bigger shame that we are still a big shit hole with hardly any form of civilisation,compared with these ppl that came to steal technologies and all that..? Isn't it a big shame that after circumnavigating the world millenniums before Ferdinand margellans ancestors were even conceived ( Mr Magellan being the first documented man to circumnavigate the world around 1555 though).. that we are yet to have the capacity to build a single submarine decades after these ppl have built and built upon their submarine capacities ..

My friend,you in particular would still have been one bellicose white throated monkey hopping from one tree to another without even bothering to hang a single leaf around your waist,but for the white man.. throwing up laughable figures and tantrums won't change the fact