₦airaland Forum

zabimaru:
He obviously ignores such threads.

An arrogant fraudster, sometimes i wish we had laws that can hunt for such people and put them in their place.

dru23:
To start with TOKUNBO engines.. When buying tokunbo engines in Nigeria, you don't know how long that engine has been used.. That engine might look good , but more than likely has more miles..
Unlike the USA , you can call the junk yard and they can tell you the mileage on the engine. The lower the mileage of the engine the more expensive it cost.......

Most importers that come to buy parts in the USA or elsewhere like u said will look for salvage cars to buy. The salvage car could have 200k plus miles on it. And the same engine that will be sold in Nigeria market....

Now would it make sense for me to buy a tokunbo car in Nigeria knowingly that the engine has been replaced in Nigeria with Tokunbo engine. Without knowing the true mileage of the car ? To me I will not do that.. And am sure the seller will not tell the buyer. It decreases the value of the car ......

And once there is engine replacement, the car will never be the same as manufacture fitted engine. A good mechanic that knows his onions, will tell you that the engine has been replaced ........All these things devalues the car....

And I doubt ur friend Val discloses this information to buyers......

Now the question remains why do Nigerian imports so many engine into the country? Why do we keep replacing our engine at such a high rate. Any other parts might not sale .. But engine parts will always sell no matter the condition.......

In the USA or Europe will follow owners manual to prevent us from changing engine.. It is very expensive and labour intensive.....

Eddee:
Surprise, surprise- the chief proponent of integrity for oil and car sales finally coming out of the closet. You should bury your head in the sand in shame, you’ve admitted to defrauding someone who trusted you. Well, Nemo dat quod non habet!

dru23:
Why did your dad wait till it is out of warranty to start using 20w50.......

20w50 is for old engines my brother.. It is very hard to see it here in Yankee.. It is not commonly sold here.....

For any major damage to occurred .. You said your dad bought the car brand new since 2005. He has been using 20w50 etc.. How often does he drive the car? Does he do up to 12k miles a year.. With Lagos traffic like New York and over crowding all over the place. How often does he drive the car for any damage to really occurred.. I doubt it that much...

Some cars will have head gasket issue . you might not know. But the more you drive it the more the problem will eventually come to surface ............

20w50 is not a common oil here in the states. You really have to go find it .. It is not commonly sold here. Modern engine have tighter clearance and 20w50 will be too thick for such

mammanbawa:
To read is one thing, to understand is a completely different thing. You dear sir are an irredeemable olodo

mammanbawa:
To read is one thing, to understand is a completely different thing. You dear sir are an irredeemable olodo

Eddee:
Surprise, surprise- the chief proponent of integrity for oil and car sales finally coming out of the closet. You should bury your head in the sand in shame, you’ve admitted to defrauding someone who trusted you. Well, Nemo dat quod non habet!

eherbal:
well well well.guess who's selling lemons? The great dru23. Mighty men dey fall for this buhari econony

Retardist:
Dru23, have you considered therapy ? I'd love to offer you 5 sessions free of charge.

dru23:
Why did your dad wait till it is out of warranty to start using 20w50.......

20w50 is for old engines my brother.. It is very hard to see it here in Yankee.. It is not commonly sold here.....

For any major damage to occurred .. You said your dad bought the car brand new since 2005. He has been using 20w50 etc.. How often does he drive the car? Does he do up to 12k miles a year.. With Lagos traffic like New York and over crowding all over the place. How often does he drive the car for any damage to really occurred.. I doubt it that much...

Some cars will have head gasket issue . you might not know. But the more you drive it the more the problem will eventually come to surface ............

20w50 is not a common oil here in the states. You really have to go find it .. It is not commonly sold here. Modern engine have tighter clearance and 20w50 will be too thick for such

mammanbawa:
To read is one thing, to understand is a completely different thing. You dear sir are an irredeemable olodo

Conner44:
Dru23 so you’re trying to tell us you’ve never seen any of these oils in your yankee before abi

Conner44:
Yankee has at least 3 months of winter and Nigeria does not hence Mobil XHP 20w50 conventional oil can be used by vehicles here safely so far as it’s not in a modern engine (some 2010 and above). Over here Vehicle fluids don’t freeze up solid unlike over there that’s why our coolants don’t have anti freeze in them.

During service with a dealership they usually use oils from drums to service their customers vehicles. I am certain that the company servicing my dads car at the time used 20w50 drum oil on his engine from the get go. Remember this was a car bought brand new and made specifically to be used in our climate. That engine has a total of 170,000kms on its odometer today and I am dead certain that 99% of that mileage was done with Mobil XHP 20w50 conventional oil changes twice a year. If we wanted to do once a year oil changes we’d switch to Mobil1 20w50 fully synthetic oil or it’s equivalent.

For you to be saying that you can’t find 20w50 weight oil over there means you’ve never gone out in search of it for any particular reason before. Ask your neighbors who race their cars or ride sports/power bikes and they’d direct you to where you can buy them.

If you could import fully synthetic 20w50 oils to Nigeria and sensitize people that they can use it for changes just once a year or every 6 months I bet you will make triple sales because normally it’s cheaper to buy, withstands shearing/breakdown better than other lighter weight oils and it’s full synthetic too with anti sludge detergent additives as a bonus.

A majority of Nigerians will patronize you if you stocked any of the oils below (including my dad)






















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Conner44:
Dru23 what we are trying to say to you is that yankee and Nigerian weather is different.

Pistons and bearing clearance/ tolerance as well as weather temperatures are things manufacturers put into consideration while recommending oils for their modern engines but for vehicles made before the year 2010 its mainly about temperature.

gazzuzz dropped this image below culled from the owners manual of a 2003-2006 Toyota Camry. [/b]Did you look at it at all before arguing?

The red line is our usual weather temperature range here in Nigeria and the blue signifies that which is seen in yankee.

according to that image, isn’t the manufacturer implying that the use of 20w50 engine oil in their engine is suitable for your yankee states like Texas. Arizona. Florida etc?

dru23:
Below is the actual owners manual for 2003 camry.. U go online and kindly download it...........

Conner44:
That’s the manual for the Camry vehicles made to be driven specifically in yankee hence that particular grade of oil for all seasons use over there.

The owners manual of that same year of Camry vehicle made to be driven in Nigeria has the exact same image as Gazzuzz posted above.

So you see that our climates are different and the manufacturers have duly taken note of this fact while factoring fluid ad maintenance recommendations in their manuals.

I agree that 5w30 fully synthetic is good for yankee cars but I don’t think you should label 20w50 conventional oil bad for Nigerian vehicles.

I showed you pictures of various 20w50 synthetic oils above and told you to ask people who race or ride bikes over there and they would show you where they sell it in your neighborhood.

Conner44:
That’s the manual for the Camry vehicles made to be driven specifically in yankee hence that particular grade of oil for all seasons use over there.

The owners manual of that same year of Camry vehicle made to be driven in Nigeria has the exact same image as Gazzuzz posted above.

So you see that our climates are different and the manufacturers have duly taken note of this fact while factoring fluid ad maintenance recommendations in their manuals.

I agree that 5w30 fully synthetic is good for yankee cars but I don’t think you should label 20w50 conventional oil bad for Nigerian vehicles.

I showed you pictures of various 20w50 synthetic oils above and told you to ask people who race or ride bikes over there and they would show you where they sell it in your neighborhood.

valarinz:
You really are still not getting it. You're of the assumption this bro is arguing with you for sakes of knowledge exchange or whatever, lol.

Nigga probably has a stockpile of oil to sell and is trying so hard to get his sales, do you expect him to give you the green lights for 20W50? Who will now buy his oils.

Just leave the guy and rest, the whole brouhaha on this thread was about his morals anyways, the issue of selling defective cars in a deceitful manner, he's the one trying so hard to divert the narrative to a place he's better placed to rant.... Don't fall for it

valarinz:
You really are still not getting it. You're of the assumption this bro is arguing with you for sakes of knowledge exchange or whatever, lol.

Nigga probably has a stockpile of oil to sell and is trying so hard to get his sales, do you expect him to give you the green lights for 20W50? Who will now buy his oils.

Just leave the guy and rest, the whole brouhaha on this thread was about his morals anyways, the issue of selling defective cars in a deceitful manner, he's the one trying so hard to divert the narrative to a place he's better placed to rant.... Don't fall for it

dru23:
Low self esteem...... Dru23 low self esteem.. Lol..

dru23:
Me I am tired .... I give up ........i am showing you the official manual from Toyota .. You can easily download it online.......
I than show other official manuals from different cars .. One manual shows more weight option .which included 20w50....

Bro .. I tire