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A thousand years is like a day to the Lord and for sure the Lord is never slack concerning His promises.
All of God's divine promises had come to pass, coming to pass and will surely come to pass.
Jesus is coming soon, watch this space.

TheShopKeeper: A thousand years is like a day to the Lord and for sure the Lord is never slack concerning His promises.
All of God's divine promises had come to pass, coming to pass and will surely come to pass.
Jesus is coming soon, watch this space.

Thank you my brother, God bless you.

TheShopKeeper: A thousand years is like a day to the Lord and for sure the Lord is never slack concerning His promises.
All of God's divine promises had come to pass, coming to pass and will surely come to pass.
Jesus is coming soon, watch this space.

how soon is soon?

ijawkid: @nyameke....answer me na....I asked u a question earlier.....


I asked if it was God himself who led d angels to fight against satan and his angels and drove them down to d earth or it was arch-angel micheal who God designated to do that Job?

Because u said it was God and I'm wondering is arch angel micheal God

2..

Is Jesus not a star too

You don't give up do you? Just going to give you simple answers ..
1.. The answer is Yes God did in the form of Michael ..Michael here is jesus

2. Yes he is.. Jesus is refereed to as a bright Morning star in the bible


By the way… There is one thing I would like to share regarding this question . Every Christian agrees and understands that Christ came to this planet and was born as a man. We seem to have no problem understanding that Jesus Christ came as a MAN to introduce His Father to mankind. Why is it they have such a hard time believing that HE would come as a Angel so as to introduce His Father to the angels?

nyameke: Lol you keep quoting stuff that you don't understand ..All you keep saying are all half truths..Truth missed with false..you really got a ling way to go bro..

Yes there is heaven and hell on earth ..And heaven here just means bliss, happiness, joy etc all positive and higher vibrations of energy....Hell here representing suffering , sorrow , poverty ,captivity etc all negative vibrations..
Everything in this universe is mind..All is mind/spirit.. you are what you think, and manifest those in your life according to the law of attraction doesn't matter if you believe in Jesus or not....Some Christians are poor and living hell on earth not because God don't want them rich...its because they are using the universal power of God(law of attraction in this context ) wrongly .. If you think negative thoughts you will manifest those energies in your life and vice versa for positive thoughts.. Everything works according to the law of attraction.. Don't want to go too deep but understand that heaven and Hell exist..ln the earthly plane anyone can experience heaven but in the spiritual realm (after death) after judgement only the believers will be in heaven..

you are just a discombobulated fella aint ya ? you are confusing yourself by mixing all this new age philosophy crap with the bible and added with a twist of greco-roman myth. first off you say the angels were kicked from heaven, and i clearly state to you that heaven is not a physical destination. heaven and hell are conditions on earth. then all off a sudden you switch to my position that heaven and hell are conditions on earth, which i am glad you see that reality. so why are you confusing yourself ? if as we both know, heaven and hell are conditions on earth ? then how did a third of the angels get kicked out of a condition on earth called heaven ? dude you need to quit with your bullcrap. you dont know the bible. all you are doing is making a gumbo with your innuendos, new age philosophy, greco-roman mythology and part of the truth, and in the process you have completely gotten yourself discombobulated and confused.

jmoore: buzugee is a really a confused guy

proverbs 18 vs 2 A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart

Thats all you is jmoore. A FOOL

ijawkid: @nyameke....answer me na....I asked u a question earlier.....


I asked if it was God himself who led d angels to fight against satan and his angels and drove them down to d earth or it was arch-angel micheal who God designated to do that Job?

Because u said it was God and I'm wondering is arch angel micheal God

2..

Is Jesus not a star too

that Brother has his own special bible made just for him. hey brethren you didnt get the email ? i will try it again but with dashes between words because i think posting that email up activates the spambots and gets me banned for an hour.
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buzugee: proverbs 18 vs 2 A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart

Thats all you is jmoore. A FOOL

You are adulterating the bible, that's what makes you a confused fella. You just gave another quote that proves how confused you are.

jmoore: You are adulterating the bible, that's what makes you a confused fella. You just gave another quote that proves how confused you are.

this ones for you Jmoore. signed sealed and delivered verse

proverbs 26 vs 4[b] Do not give answer to a fool according to his foolishness, lest you also be like him[/b] that verse is my post-easter present for you Jmoore

buzugee: you are just a discombobulated fella aint ya ? you are confusing yourself by mixing all this new age philosophy crap with the bible and added with a twist of greco-roman myth. first off you say the angels were kicked from heaven, and i clearly state to you that heaven is not a physical destination. heaven and hell are conditions on earth. then all off a sudden you switch to my position that heaven and hell are conditions on earth, which i am glad you see that reality. so why are you confusing yourself ? if as we both know, heaven and hell are conditions on earth ? then how did a third of the angels get kicked out of a condition on earth called heaven ? dude you need to quit with your bullcrap. you dont know the ibible. all you are doing is making a gumbo with your innuendos, new age philosophy, greco-roman mythology and part of the truth, and in the process you have completely gotten yourself discombobulated and confused.

You believe there is heaven and hell in this realm but you don't believe there is heaven and hell in the metaphysical realm? You're the discombobulated guy here but I will leave you to your ignorance..

nyameke: You believe there is heaven and hell in this realm but you don't believe there is heaven and hell in the metaphysical realm? You're the discombobulated guy here but I will leave you to your ignorance..

bruh, i suggest you take a tall glass of lemonade, go into your wardrobe, bring out that dusty bible you havent read in over a decade, and crack it open and get to reading, cuz you damn sure aint read that book in ages. i can tell.

i digress, there is no heaven and hell in the metaphysical realm. HEAVEN and HELL are descriptions of human conditions not physical places. everything happens on earth. just think of a revolving cycle. earth is the judgement ground which is where you pay for your punishment from past life ( ecclesiastes 3 vs 16[b] And I saw something else under the sun: In the place of judgment--wickedness was there,[/b] ) so earth is the place of judgement under the sun. this is where you pay for the sins of your previous life ( yes we are spiritual beings that are recycled into new bodies on earth every 3rd or 4th generation. its all in the bible ). so you live one life, then die and return to the spiritual realm (ecclesiastes 12 vs 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it ). in the spiritual realm you rest. there is no punishment in the spiritual realm. this is the place where you go to rest and wait for your next deployment to earth. in your next deployment to earth, you pay for your sins. if you were a good person, more than likely you will have a heavenly experience on earth. if you were an evil person, then more than likely you will live a hellish experience on earth, as judgement. however if you repent, which you will only be allowed to repent once you serve the adequate punishment required (galatians 6 vs 7[b] Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows[/b] ), If you repent and keep being good till you die, then when you return on earth again, you will live a heavenly experience on earth. ( this is why you see so many atheists etc around. these peoples hearts have been closed by the lord because they still havent served enough of their punishment from past life (ISAIAH 6 VS 10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed." ) SO THAT IS THE STORY OF HEAVEN AND HELL. THEY ARE BOTH CONDITIONS PLACED ON YOU ON EARTH AS JUDGEMENT FOR THE WAY YOU LIVED AND LIVE YOUR LIFE. THEY ARE NOT PHYSICAL PLACES. AND AS FOR THE SPIRITUAL REALM ? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM AND THE SPIRITUAL REALM CAN BE REFERED TO AS HEAVENLY BECAUSE IT WILL BE QUIET AND PEACEFULL AND BLISSFULL. HEAVEN IS A DESCRIPTION NOT A NAME. GERRIT ? THERE IS NO PLACE CALLED HELL IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM, NEITHER IS THERE A PLACE CALLED HEAVEN. IT IS CALLED HEAVEN TO DESCRIBE HOW BLISSFULL IT IS.

buzugee: bruh, i suggest you take a tall glass of lemonade, go into your wardrobe, bring out that dusty bible you havent read in over a decade, and crack it open and get to reading, cuz you damn sure aint read that book in ages. i can tell.

i digress, there is no heaven and hell in the metaphysical realm. HEAVEN and HELL are descriptions of human conditions not physical places. everything happens on earth. just think of a revolving cycle. earth is the judgement ground which is where you pay for your punishment from past life ( ecclesiastes 3 vs 16[b] And I saw something else under the sun: In the place of judgment--wickedness was there,[/b] ) so earth is the place of judgement under the sun. this is where you pay for the sins of your previous life ( yes we are spiritual beings that are recycled into new bodies on earth every 3rd or 4th generation. its all in the bible ). so you live one life, then die and return to the spiritual realm (ecclesiastes 12 vs 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it ). in the spiritual realm you rest. there is no punishment in the spiritual realm. this is the place where you go to rest and wait for your next deployment to earth. in your next deployment to earth, you pay for your sins. if you were a good person, more than likely you will have a heavenly experience on earth. if you were an evil person, then more than likely you will live a hellish experience on earth, as judgement. however if you repent, which you will only be allowed to repent once you serve the adequate punishment required (galatians 6 vs 7[b] Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows[/b] ), If you repent and keep being good till you die, then when you return on earth again, you will live a heavenly experience on earth. ( this is why you see so many atheists etc around. these peoples hearts have been closed by the lord because they still havent served enough of their punishment from past life (ISAIAH 6 VS 10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed." ) SO THAT IS THE STORY OF HEAVEN AND HELL. THEY ARE BOTH CONDITIONS PLACED ON YOU ON EARTH AS JUDGEMENT FOR THE WAY YOU LIVED AND LIVE YOUR LIFE. THEY ARE NOT PHYSICAL PLACES. AND AS FOR THE SPIRITUAL REALM ? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM AND THE SPIRITUAL REALM CAN BE REFERED TO AS HEAVENLY BECAUSE IT WILL BE QUIET AND PEACEFULL AND BLISSFULL. HEAVEN IS A DESCRIPTION NOT A NAME. GERRIT ? THERE IS NO PLACE CALLED HELL IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM, NEITHER IS THERE A PLACE CALLED HEAVEN. IT IS CALLED HEAVEN TO DESCRIBE HOW BLISSFULL IT IS.

wooow at this point I really can't help you bro.. I wonder what people on here think about your state of mind when they read all this stuff from you...Shalom bro

nyameke: wooow at this point I really can't help you bro.. I wonder what people on here think about your state of mind when they read all this stuff from you...Shalom bro

notice how everything i have said is backed by scriptures but you have not quoted one single scripture but are coming from your own opinion ? listen to what the lord says about people like you

ISAIAH 8 VS 20[b] if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them[/b] ( BRUH THERE IS NO LIGHT IN YOU. YOU ARE IN DARKNESS )

1 THESSALONIANS 5 VS 21 But prove all things (BRUH, YOU HAVE PROVED NOTHING. ALL YOU HAVE SPEWED IS FROM YOUR HEAD )

2 PETER 1 VS 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. ( ALL YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALL DAY IS YOUR OWN PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS. NOTHING OFF THE LORDS WORD. YOU COMING UP WITH ANGELS FIGHTING AGAINST GOD IN HEAVEN AND BEEN CAST TO EARTH BECAUSE OF THAT, AND ALL THIS CRAZY MUMBO JUMBO CRAP ABOUT ANGELS WITH FREEWILL AND SHYTTT. NONE OF THIS STUFF IS IN THE SCRIPTURES. YOU ARE A DELUDED BRAINWASHED MAN AND YOU NEED HELP. LIKE SCRIPTURE SAYS, PROVE ALL THINGS, THE SCRIPTURE IS OFF NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION AND IF YOU AINT COMING OUT OF THE BIBLE, IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO LIGHT IN YOU. ALL YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALL DAY ARE YOUR OWN VAIN OPINIONS )

I am certain that this post will upset some people but with all the hype and speculation about Jesus coming between 2012-2019 the truth has to be said by someone. Jesus is dead and would never come back again---- the dead have nothing doing with the living only when they've been contact through channelling but that doesn't make them to belong here . as dead person always belon to the land of the dead! . I will say dogmatically that Jesus is not coming to rule the earth . believing that Jesus is still alive is like the case of micheal jackson and Tupac Shakur....LOL

Unitedsatanist: I am certain that this post will upset some people but with all the hype and speculation about Jesus coming between 2012-2019 the truth has to be said by someone. Jesus is dead and would never come back again---- the dead have nothing doing with the living only when they've been contact through channelling but that doesn't make them to belong here . as dead person always belon to the land of the dead! . I will say dogmatically that Jesus is not coming to rule the earth . believing that Jesus is still alive is like the case of micheal jackson and Tupac Shakur....LOL

well, i am upset that you said that the dead have a land.

Why was it necessary for him to come and INTRODUCE his father to the world? Why couldn't his father have done the introduction himself?

nyameke: You don't give up do you? Just going to give you simple answers ..
1.. The answer is Yes God did in the form of Michael ..Michael here is jesus

2. Yes he is.. Jesus is refereed to as a bright Morning star in the bible


By the way… There is one thing I would like to share regarding this question . Every Christian agrees and understands that Christ came to this planet and was born as a man. We seem to have no problem understanding that Jesus Christ came as a MAN to introduce His Father to mankind. Why is it they have such a hard time believing that HE would come as a Angel so as to introduce His Father to the angels?

Don't forget Elvis "The King" Presley.

Unitedsatanist: I am certain that this post will upset some people but with all the hype and speculation about Jesus coming between 2012-2019 the truth has to be said by someone. Jesus is dead and would never come back again---- the dead have nothing doing with the living only when they've been contact through channelling but that doesn't make them to belong here . as dead person always belon to the land of the dead! . I will say dogmatically that Jesus is not coming to rule the earth . believing that Jesus is still alive is like the case of micheal jackson and Tupac Shakur....LOL

@nya....so christ is angel micheal ba

and he has been d angel micheal all d while that was always sent by Yahweh to rescue d isrealites....ba


Ur 1 diff catholic who believes Jesus is actually angel micheal,,,...many of them refute it...why??

Because they say Jesus can never and is not an angel because he is almighty God he doesn't have a beginning......
Meanwhile we all know that all angels were created..

Now we are talking about Jesus before he came to earth and after ascension...

And with d title Jesus has as a morning (star) meaning he is an angel if I'm not mistaking but chief of Yahwehs angels,how does that make him d Yahweh?


Remember I'm an anti-trinity guy...

And situations like this is what makes me so damn sure that Jesus is not d same as his Father(Yahweh)...

Angels are always sent by a higher authority...
And here is Jesus in his post-human life still being sent by his Father to do not his own will bt he's Fathers will.....

If Jesus is arch angel micheal then Jesus isn't equal with his Father

buzugee: notice how everything i have said is backed by scriptures but you have not quoted one single scripture but are coming from your own opinion ? listen to what the lord says about people like you

ISAIAH 8 VS 20[b] if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them[/b] ( BRUH THERE IS NO LIGHT IN YOU. YOU ARE IN DARKNESS )

1 THESSALONIANS 5 VS 21 But prove all things (BRUH, YOU HAVE PROVED NOTHING. ALL YOU HAVE SPEWED IS FROM YOUR HEAD )

2 PETER 1 VS 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. ( ALL YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALL DAY IS YOUR OWN PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS. NOTHING OFF THE LORDS WORD. YOU COMING UP WITH ANGELS FIGHTING AGAINST GOD IN HEAVEN AND BEEN CAST TO EARTH BECAUSE OF THAT, AND ALL THIS CRAZY MUMBO JUMBO CRAP ABOUT ANGELS WITH FREEWILL AND SHYTTT. NONE OF THIS STUFF IS IN THE SCRIPTURES. YOU ARE A DELUDED BRAINWASHED MAN AND YOU NEED HELP. LIKE SCRIPTURE SAYS, PROVE ALL THINGS, THE SCRIPTURE IS OFF NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION AND IF YOU AINT COMING OUT OF THE BIBLE, IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO LIGHT IN YOU. ALL YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALL DAY ARE YOUR OWN VAIN OPINIONS )

Dude most of the things You've said are not backed by the scriptures... Most of your quotes you have all misinterpreted and no sane Christian will believe any of it....You lack understanding ...

Btw Go to other threads I have been on ,I quote the bible when I have to..There is actually no need quoting anything with you right now Cus you don't even understand the ones that you quote..Realized that from the beginning with you..

You have knowledge of the bible but you lack wisdom..And know that false presented as good in ignorance is a greater evil than evil itself so I would advice you to becareful...Shalom

ijawkid: @nya....so christ is angel micheal ba

and he has been d angel micheal all d while that was always sent by Yahweh to rescue d isrealites....ba


Ur 1 diff catholic who believes Jesus is actually angel micheal,,,...many of them refute it...why??

Because they say Jesus can never and is not an angel because he is almighty God he doesn't have a beginning......
Meanwhile we all know that all angels were created..

Now we are talking about Jesus before he came to earth and after ascension...

And with d title Jesus has as a morning (star) meaning he is an angel if I'm not mistaking but chief of Yahwehs angels,how does that make him d Yahweh?


Remember I'm an anti-trinity guy...

And situations like this is what makes me so damn sure that Jesus is not d same as his Father(Yahweh)...

Angels are always sent by a higher authority...
And here is Jesus in his post-human life still being sent by his Father to do not his own will bt he's Fathers will.....

If Jesus is arch angel micheal then Jesus isn't equal with his Father

Ok I'm going to answer you but I'm going to make a thread about it..

nyameke: Dude most of the things You've said are not backed by the scriptures... Most of your quotes you have all misinterpreted and no sane Christian will believe any of it....You lack understanding ...

Btw Go to other threads I have been on ,I quote the bible when I have to..There is actually no need quoting anything with you right now Cus you don't even understand the ones that you quote..Realized that from the beginning with you..

You have knowledge of the bible but you lack wisdom..And know that false presented as good in ignorance is a greater evil than evil itself so I would advice you to becareful...Shalom

says the man who said a third of the angels in heaven were kicked down to earth because they rebelled against God . you are a joke. you should be a comedian

buzugee: says the man who said a third of the angels in heaven were kicked down to earth because they rebelled against God . you are a joke. you should be a comedian

ok I showed you the verses earlier and you did not understand so since you seem to have your own explanations to the bible kindly explain what you think these verses..
mean..
Here go.. Revelation 12:3-9
3 An d there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon [/b]stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.....
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6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 [b]And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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Like I said earlier in my posts angels, spirits or whatever you want to call them are lights beings/stars...this is what the bible says about stars in Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Jesus also said in the bible that he saw Satan fall Like lightening from heaven ..Luke 10:18..

Ok this is my conclusion Satan is also referred to as a dragon in the bible...So, if the Dragon, (Satan - Rev.12:9), drew "one-third of God's angels" along with him in his rebellion (Rev.12:4)... stars represent angels, according to the Bible (Rev.1:20) what is so hard for you to understand..

If you can't discern these elementary simple stuff then you have ways to go I have already told you that ...This is my last statement on this topic on this thread...

chapter 3 the red dragon is the strongest of the gentile empire. the roman empire. the 7 heads is the 7 hills of rome. the 10 horns is the ten countries that make up the european empire, which is what the roman empire morphed into. the 7 crowns means the roman empire (EUROPE ) will rule the world ( british empire and american empire are offshoot of the roman empire )

chapter 4 . the dragon threw the third part of the stars from heaven and cast them to earth means the european empire wrest control of the earth from the israelites ( lamentations 2 vs 1 ) thereby kicking the israelites from a position of rulership to a position of captivity. the israelites are the stars from heaven. They are Gods chosen people ( deuteronomy 7 vs 6 ). they are Gods representatives on earth. his firstborn children ( exodus 4 vs 22 ). this happened during the time of alexander the great ( 1 maccabees chapter 1 verse 9 ). the woman who was having the child is mary and the child was the messiah and the dragon that stood before her waiting for her to give birth so he can devour her child was the roman empire under king herod.

chapter 5 . she gave birth to the messiah who was the lords child and would rule all the nations when he returns.

chapter 6 . mary fled into egypt i believe it was to hide the messiah from king herod of the roman empire, who wanted the messiah dead.

chapter 7 and 8 means despite the efforts of the israelites to gain control of their possesion, the earth, their heritage, their inheritance, they lost it to the romans. the war in heaven means the war on earth while it was still in a heavenly state. however when the romans took control, prophesys kicked in. the romans are blessed with superior weapons (genesis 27 vs 40 ) ( when the bible refers to 'sword' it means weaponry ) and were given the gift to build superior weaponry by God ( revelation 6 vs 4 ). the reason for this is as a punishment to the israelites for disobeying the laws and worshipping idols despite the lord giving them the whole world. basically the romans (edomites) (caucasians ) ( the wicked ) are the lords sword ( psalms 17 vs 13 )

chapter 9 means the romans were cast out into the earth to take peace away from the earth ( revelations 6 vs 4 ) and he took control of the world and decieved the world through iconoclasm ( job 9 vs 24 ) ( 1 maccabees 3 vs 48 ). he was unleashed on the world. and now the world has been transformed to hell. who is in control of the world ? ( job 9 vs 24 ). the desecendants of the romans ( the deciever ) and evil has increased in the world ever since ( 1 maccabees 1 vs 9 )

SEE WHEN YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AND TAKE THINGS LITERALLY, THEN YOU COME UP WITH ASININE EXPLANATIONS LIKE YOU DID. THE WORD IS CODED. WHEN YOU STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED, THE WHOLE THING WILL OPEN UP FOR YOU. THE BIBLE IS NOT A LITERAL BOOK. IT IS SYMBOLIC. PLEASE WHILE READING THIS BE SURE TO LOOK UP THE VERSES I QUOTED BECAUSE ONLY THEN WILL WHAT I EXPLAINED MAKE SENSE. PREFARABLY IN A KJV BIBLE.

chapter 3 the red dragon is the strongest of the gentile empire. the roman empire. the 7 heads is the 7 hills of rome. the 10 horns is the ten countries that make up the european empire, which is what the roman empire morphed into. the 7 crowns means the roman empire (EUROPE ) will rule the world ( british empire and american empire are offshoot of the roman empire )

chapter 4 . the dragon threw the third part of the stars from heaven and cast them to earth means the european empire wrest control of the earth from the israelites ( lamentations 2 vs 1 How hath the LORD covered the daughter oF ZION with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger! ) thereby kicking the israelites from a position of rulership to a position of captivity. the israelites are the stars from heaven. They are Gods chosen people ( deuteronomy 7 vs 6 ). they are Gods representatives on earth. his firstborn children ( exodus 4 vs 22 ). this happened during the time of alexander the great ( 1 maccabees chapter 1 verse 9 ). The lord used the dragon as his sword. the woman who was having the child is mary and the child was the messiah and the dragon that stood before her waiting for her to give birth so he can devour her child was the roman empire under king herod.

chapter 5 . she gave birth to the messiah who was the lords child and would rule all the nations when he returns.

chapter 6 . mary fled into egypt to hide the messiah from king herod of the roman empire, who wanted the messiah dead.

chapter 7 and 8 means despite the efforts of the israelites to gain control of their possesion, the earth, their heritage, their inheritance, they lost it to the romans. the war in heaven means the war on earth while it was still in a heavenly state. however when the romans took control, prophesys kicked in. the romans are blessed with superior weapons (genesis 27 vs 40 ) ( when the bible refers to 'sword' it means weaponry ) and were given the gift to build superior weaponry by God ( revelation 6 vs 4 power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. ). the reason for this is as a punishment to the israelites for disobeying the laws and worshipping idols despite the lord giving them the whole world. basically the romans (edomites) (caucasians ) ( the wicked ) are the lords sword ( psalms 17 vs 13 )

chapter 9 means the romans were cast out into the earth to take peace away from the earth ( revelations 6 vs 4 ) and he took control of the world and decieved the world through iconoclasm ( job 9 vs 24 ) ( 1 maccabees 3 vs 48 ). he was unleashed on the world. and now the world has been transformed to hell. who is in control of the world ? ( job 9 vs 24 ). the desecendants of the romans ( the deciever ) and evil has increased in the world ever since ( 1 maccabees 1 vs 9 )


UPDATED TO INCLUDE CHAPTER 5 AND 6 @ NYAMEKE

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So Buzugee was talking about a third world war. Yes that is true and it can't be avoided. But nothing garantees to me that after the world war 3, men will be mature enoug to understand that life is not about who's the strongest and that we need each other. If they do, it will be the end. If they do not, humanity will keep going on and will have more clashes.

By clashes I do not only mean wars. Also, terrorism, natural disasters, famine, plagues, diseases, etc. All these is meant to teach humanity a lesson: Whatever a man sows, that He'll reap. If we sow evil, we'll get is back in one form or the other.

So humanity is a child. And like every child, at the beginning we understand nothing and we think everything is ours. There's no sense of responsibility and no maturity. So GOD uses his prophets and apostles as Teachers and preceptors for the young child. The word of GOD in their lips is a rod to flog the child for him to understand. And since the child is not pleased with them, he keeps on killing them...

At a certain age, the child desire emancipation, separation from his parents = The age of atheism.

Clashes and flogging -that is plagues and prophets- will keep coming until the baby becomes mature. Then he will administrate the entire possession of his father.

Let him who has ears understand!

LoJ: Hello To everyone!

I'd like to say several things.

1- You guys are confused between the coming of JESUS and the end time. JESUS said He'll come back during the life of his apostles. But he said the end time, no one knows the day nor the hour. So JESUS was true!

He came back on earth during the very life of his apostles = The outpouring of the HOLYSPIRIT. The return of JESUS, is not the return of the body - that is flesh and blood - for the flesh is nothing. It is the Spiritual entity of GOD that was poured on holy men. So JESUS came on earth as He said he would.

2- Concerning the end time, nobody knows the hour and date. Buzugee is not correct in his prediction of 2019. First of all, because the slavery of the israelites did not lasted 400 years, but rather 430 years. So there is a margin error of 30 years. Moreover, because it doesn't depends on GOD alone. It also higly depends on man.

This present age will come to an end when men will evolve enough to understand the basic principles of life. And in order to understand them, they need clashes. So humanity is going to have clashes and clashes until they come to the understand of how GOD meant the world to be ruled. When they'll do so, they will come back to GOD and GOD will open their eyes. They will be established again in the position of rulership and they will administrate the whole universe.

This can take one more day, one more year, a thousand year, and so forth. So it depends on man's will and ability to learn from his mistakes. And this is exactly what JESUS meant with the parable of the prodigal son. That's why, GOD didn't give us any date for man is not a machine...

The earth is just an atom of the universe. GOD did not create other planets for decoration. Man is meant to administrate all the universe, and He'll do so, when he shall be ready. He that is faithful with a little (the earth) shall be entrusted with much (the universe).

What I'm saying shall not be understood by everyone, and i Know it. It takes long time and patience, remaining in the presence of GOD and listening to his council to understand those things. So if you don't get me, do not worry. Just make sure you live by the principles of GOD. What are those principles?

- Love GOD and fear him. Submit to his will in all things, and live to please him.
- Love your neighbour. Care about others. Invest more on others than on yourself. Practise love, charity, respect.
- Hate and reject all sins. Sins in thought, in words, in actions, practise not. Refuse to be pleased with whatever is sinful, refuse to find you pleasure in that which is evil.
- Teach others to do so.

Be blessed!

LoJ

thank God its fridayyyyyyy. am finna get me like 4 bottles of jamaican dragon stout. and am finna get my party on. but i digress, you know i wasnt exactly giving a concrete date for the messiahs return right ? i was guestimating based on a 400 year slavery period that started around 1619. you know, the slavery prophesied in deuteronomy 28 vs 68. so am saying, look around you ? it looks like the time frame is on the money. world war 3 is round the corner. during ww3 america will be turned into a lake of fire by russian thermonuclear missles and the saints will be raptured out of america and the four corners of the earth by the messiah. its all round the corner chief. personally, i would be surprised if we had 20 years left in this world we are in now. its about to go down. the messiah finna throw the great millstone upon this civilization as we know it and dash it to smithereens and effectively usher in the permanent righteous kingdom daniels 2 vs 44

LoJ: So Buzugee was talking about a third world war. Yes that is true and it can't be avoided. But nothing garantees to me that after the world war 3, men will be mature enoug to understand that life is not about who's the strongest and that we need each other. If they do, it will be the end. If they do not, humanity will keep going on and will have more clashes.

By clashes I do not only mean wars. Also, terrorism, natural disasters, famine, plagues, diseases, etc. All these is meant to teach humanity a lesson: Whatever a man sows, that He'll reap. If we sow evil, we'll get is back in one form or the other.

So humanity is a child. And like every child, at the beginning we understand nothing and we think everything is ours. There's no sense of responsibility and no maturity. So GOD uses his prophets and apostles as Teachers and preceptors for the young child. The word of GOD in their lips is a rod to flog the child for him to understand. And since the child is not pleased with them, he keeps on killing them...

At a certain age, the child desire emancipation, separation from his parents = The age of atheism.

Clashes and flogging -that is plagues and prophets- will keep coming until the baby becomes mature. Then he will administrate the entire possession of his father.

Let him who has ears understand!

Lion-EL

there you go so sounding likr joel osteen. hey Loj, what country where you from again ?

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LoJ: Does Joel Osteen teaches that? I don't know him (just hear the name from time to time).

Why do you ask for my country? You want to check wether I'm black or white?

LoJ

LMAO and why would i want to know if you are black or white ? you funny

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LoJ: Yes of course, I read you doing the same thing to another one. You rejected him because he was white, since the white man is esau and thereby evil...

Anyway, guess where am from, cauz' I'll not tell you now.

Nah i aint reject nobody because of race. crossman is a good buddy and he is caucasian. dont mistake 'biblical verses' for my personal relationships with people. but ermm yeah i will say you are from south africa ?