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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:31pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:


I get u

So because he discovered oshimen and nacho with manu garba we should now replace Rohr with him?

He did well with the under 17 but less average with other teams he managed

Rhor is tactically inept and the team has gone no where in five years.

If that is okay by you, it is your choice. To me it is crazy leaving out local tactician to employ tactically inferior coaches that will not improve the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


If Rhor could do what Keshi did for us, you guys will be celebrating Rhor like the best coach since Mario Zagallo.

Rhor can't even do multiple tasks. Like he can't even coach CHAN team. Yet you guys find it easy to abuse an achiever like Keshi and celebrate Rhor.

If Amunike and co did not raise Osimhen and Nacho and they fought their way in their clubs, Rhor would still be begging Tammy Abraham.
Yes Keshi is better than Rohr for sure and the record are there to see,until Rohr prove me wrong with Afcon and solid WC performance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Did he tell you he will not get a job? I am telling you Finidi George is bigger than Enyimba. Steve Cooper gets to coach Swansea, when a too grade coach like Finidi gets to coach Enyimba.

You think they can't get local jobs? They can do that. Enyimba is not where Finidi should be.

Finidi will definitely be a better tactician than Rhor but he gets to coach Enyimba, while Rhor coaches Super Eagles.

Where has finidi manage beforebecause he has a coaching badge does that he mean he has experience

Even in the cooperate world a BSc degree holder with years of experience is preferred over an MBA degree holder with zero experience

Let Finidi get the required experience which he is obviously doinh same thing made oliseh messed up and he took same character to the Netherlands.... they need experience to manage a team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:33pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Rhor is tactically inept and the team has gone no where in five years.

If that is okay by you, it is your choice. To me it is crazy leaving put local tactician to employ tactically inferior coaches that will not improve the team.

I dont want rohr anymore but will prefer he is replaced with a sound foreign coach

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:34pm On Oct 15, 2021
Kog45:
Joe do we really believe in our local coaches?NO meaning Amuneke just need to work hard to get eagles job.

Yes Rohr proved nothing even I don't know him until he got eagles job but remember he is a white man so it was easy for him to get the job.

We should not select based on white man. Select based on tactical Superiority.

Kashimawo Laloko complained about this thing.

They employ men they are better than and shower them with money and comfort.

This man can't even polish Musa Abdullahi books.

Even Bonfere knows the work Miss Abdullahi did in Atlanta. But they don't get celebrated.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:36pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Rhor is tactically inept and the team has gone no where in five years.

If that is okay by you, it is your choice. To me it is crazy leaving put local tactician to employ tactically inferior coaches that will not improve the team.
I got your point tactically Rohr is inept but tactically sound local coaches are perceived as set of corrupt people.

Crossroads bro.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:37pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:


I dont want rohr anymore but will prefer he is replaced with a sound foreign coach

With a sound foreign coach ora white man.

Are you sure the one you prefer will be tactically superior. Or we just accept a white man.

No matter how you guys criticise Keshi. Him and Sylvanus Okpala achieved a lot with that team. We beat a star studded Ivorian team with Drogha, Yaya Toure and Gervinho.

White washed Mali.

Yet we just want a foreign coach, not caring if they can do better.

Can a white man do what Siasia has done in recent years?

Since Westerhoff and Bonfere, all the White coaches we brought failed to deliver.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39pm On Oct 15, 2021
Kog45:
I got your point tactically Rohr is inept but tactically sound local coaches are perceived as set of corrupt people.

Crossroads bro.

Is Rhor clean? Rhor is doing deal to share salary in NFF but he is not perceived as corrupt.

It is just mindset Nigerians have inferiority complex and will do anything to run or sabotage their own to have a white man rule them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:42pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


We should not select based on white man. Select based on tactical Superiority.

Kashimawo Laloko complained about this thing.

They employ men they are better than and shower them with money and comfort.

This man can't even polish Musa Abdullahi books.

Even Bonfere knows the work Miss Abdullahi did in Atlanta. But they don't get celebrated.
Hmmm coach late Musa Abdullahi was my area brother and my YSFON coach when I was growing up....oh my God Egbon Musa was a very good coach.

Joe the issue here is this do we really have the money to employ a good tactician not just anyhow coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:42pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


With a sound foreign coach ora white man.

Are you sure the one you prefer will be tactically superior. Or we just accept a white man.

No matter how you guys criticise Keshi. Him and Sylvanus Okpala achieved a lot with that team. We beat a star studded Ivorian team with Drogha, Yaya Toure and Gervinho.

White washed Mali.

Yet we just want a foreign coach, not caring if they can do better.

Can a white man do what Siasia has done in recent years?

Since Westerhoff and Bonfere, all the White coaches we brought failed to deliver.

U seems dont get this indigenous coaches you're canvassing for many are freaky corrupt and issue questionable call ups as long as their palms are greased this is less pronounced with a Foreign coach even if it exist

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:44pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Is Rhor clean? Rhor is doing deal to share salary in NFF but he is not perceived as corrupt.

It is just mindset Nigerians have inferiority complex and will do anything to run or sabotage their own to have a white man rule them.

He is cleaner than this indigenous coaches wella

What has paved way for him so far is his man management skills and abit merit based call ups

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:44pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Is Rhor clean? Rhor is doing deal to share salary in NFF but he is not perceived as corrupt.

It is just mindset Nigerians have inferiority complex and will do anything to run or sabotage their own to have a white man rule them.
I knew something shady is going on with that wicked clause in Rohr contract.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:48pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:


He is cleaner than this indigenous coaches wella

What has paved way for him so far is his man management skills and abit merit based call ups
Hope Rohr make it to WC this time around cos something is definitely wrong with his team.

Despite the talents in his disposal the man is struggling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54pm On Oct 15, 2021
Kog45:
I knew something shady is going on with that wicked clause in Rohr contract.

Special assistant on sports to Nigeria President Muhammadu Buhari, Daniel Amokachi, has now come out to reveal Rohr’s contract contains a huge $2 million compensation clause, which in his view is a terrible choice considering how the football body treated indigenous coaches like Sunday Olisey and Emmanuel Amuneke.

“For the administration to bring somebody like Oliseh and not giving him time because he’s Nigerian and they let go,” Amokachi told Brila FM.

“To bring in somebody like Amuneke and not giving him time then they let him go. Then you bring a new coach where those two coaches are far better than him; pedigree-wise and portfolio-wise.

“But still, they gave the machinery a lot of money, $60 plus with all the bonuses, if they play two matches in a month, then you’re talking over $100,000.

“And then at the end of the day, you put a $2m clause on a coach that has never won anything. A coach that came from Burkina Faso to Tunisia then to Nigeria and you put a $2m clause, that’s the first I’m hearing such.

“If you were bringing Guardiola you can put $10m if he says he wants it because you know who he is; he has won laurels. But for a coach that has not done anything, not achieved anything and you put a $2m clause? There’s a lot of failure in that.

“I’ll not rate them (NFF) out of 10, but all these things I’ve broken down will tell anybody with common sense where I’m coming from.”

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2020/12/daniel-amokachi-blasts-nff-for-allowing-2-million-compensation-clause-in-gernot-rohrs-contract-but-owing-oliseh-and-amuneke.html

But the Nigerian coaches are corrupt and Rhor is Saint Obi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:56pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:


He is cleaner than this indigenous coaches wella

What has paved way for him so far is his man management skills and abit merit based call ups

Merit. Like Musa getting regular callups even when out of contract and without a club.

Falling out with Mikel because Mikel corrected his tactical inefficiency. That is merit to you.
undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:03am On Oct 16, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Special assistant on sports to Nigeria President Muhammadu Buhari, Daniel Amokachi, has now come out to reveal Rohr’s contract contains a huge $2 million compensation clause, which in his view is a terrible choice considering how the football body treated indigenous coaches like Sunday Olisey and Emmanuel Amuneke.

“For the administration to bring somebody like Oliseh and not giving him time because he’s Nigerian and they let go,” Amokachi told Brila FM.

“To bring in somebody like Amuneke and not giving him time then they let him go. Then you bring a new coach where those two coaches are far better than him; pedigree-wise and portfolio-wise.

“But still, they gave the machinery a lot of money, $60 plus with all the bonuses, if they play two matches in a month, then you’re talking over $100,000.

“And then at the end of the day, you put a $2m clause on a coach that has never won anything. A coach that came from Burkina Faso to Tunisia then to Nigeria and you put a $2m clause, that’s the first I’m hearing such.

“If you were bringing Guardiola you can put $10m if he says he wants it because you know who he is; he has won laurels. But for a coach that has not done anything, not achieved anything and you put a $2m clause? There’s a lot of failure in that.

“I’ll not rate them (NFF) out of 10, but all these things I’ve broken down will tell anybody with common sense where I’m coming from.”

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2020/12/daniel-amokachi-blasts-nff-for-allowing-2-million-compensation-clause-in-gernot-rohrs-contract-but-owing-oliseh-and-amuneke.html

But the Nigerian coaches are corrupt and Rhor is Saint Obi.
Yes I brought this $2m clause issue to this thread and nobody cared.

Hmm wahala dey and only Pinnick can tell us what motivated him to agree to such deal.Definitely this is pure corruption.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:05am On Oct 16, 2021
Kog45:
Yes I brought this $2m clause issue to this thread and nobody cared.

Hmm wahala dey and only Pinnick can tell us what motivated him to agree to such deal.Definitely this is pure corruption.

Pinnick did not agree the deal. I believe he is part of the racket that wrote it.

It is pure shady business only thing missing is Eminem, if not it would have been slim shady.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:07am On Oct 16, 2021
humility33:


He is cleaner than this indigenous coaches wella

What has paved way for him so far is his man management skills and abit merit based call ups
Ozomwafor merit call up abi,Shehu and Musa merit call up abi.Hope you remember how Ezenwa was getting call up despite playing second or third choice at Enyimba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 12:23am On Oct 16, 2021
The Egyptians are well aware of the situation and are banking on us to lose one of our next matches - which would be the only way they can supplant us in the rankings.

If we win both of our next matches, there is nothing Egypt can do to overtake us. Regardless of whether they win all of of their next matches or not.

I'll illustrate this fact in the next few days using the FIFA calculation method.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 1:39am On Oct 16, 2021
chrisooblog:
Egbon Westerhof also used to drop squad players when needs demanded. Owobokiri that was killing it in Portugal and even scored against South Africa during the 1994 WC qualifier was barely called again but Efan Ekoku that didn't do anything in the SE he took straight to WC. Ugbade that was dropped for Emenalo nko? Clemens too dropped a few notable players during his time but I give it to him he knew how to strike a balance and motivate his players.

Keshi in a bid to mold his own team I think picked players based mostly on how loyal they were to him instead of first using ability/talent as a bench mark. Every good coach has an ego but you shouldn't let it blind you from working with the best talents just because they won't bow to you.


Exactly. Some coaches are fond of this nonsense. Once they realise a player is unwilling to kiss their asss like other players do, they automatically develop hatred for that player. They start to feel threatened and will do everything in their power to bring that player down.

They'll say players need to be humble but what they really mean is that players should develop the much desired skill of ass kissing. All defaulters will get kicked to the side. It's so pathetic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peacefull(f): 1:45am On Oct 16, 2021
Silentgroper:

konichiwa... Ika ga desuka?

Konnichiwa!
Wow!! Thank you so much for writing Japanese to me. I appreciate you!!

I tried to read some comments? conversation? on here.
I'm here is maybe you wanna know Nigerian football players in Japan or half Nigerian and half Japanese players in Japan?
Am I correct? If I'm misunderstanding, I'mvery sorry.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Silentgroper(m): 2:40am On Oct 16, 2021
peacefull:


Konnichiwa!
Wow!! Thank you so much for writing Japanese to me. I appreciate you!!

I tried to read some comments? conversation? on here.
I'm here is maybe you wanna know Nigerian football players in Japan or half Nigerian and half Japanese players in Japan?
Am I correct? If I'm misunderstanding, I'mvery sorry.
Yeah. I actually saw u wrote about them in ur diary. It's also d actual reason i quoted u.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peacefull(f): 3:02am On Oct 16, 2021
Silentgroper:
Yeah. I actually saw u wrote about them in ur diary. It's also d actual reason i quoted u.

Oh! Yes! I wrote about some half Japanese and half Nigerian sports players!
Thank you so much for read my diary! I really appreciate you!!

I checked about Nigerian football players in Japan. What I read is, 2 players in J1, 4 players in J3, total 6 players.

And when I checked about Nigerian football players in Japan, first time I saw name is Peter Maduabuchi Utaka.
Second is Chico Ofoedu. He joined J.LEAGUE from this year.

I saw his 2 names.
Chico Ofoedu and Chikeluba Francis Ofoedu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 3:19am On Oct 16, 2021
It seems to me that People are forgetting why Rohr was hired in the first place. Anyway, for those with selective amnesia! Rohr was hired because the 3 incumbent indigenous coaches (keshi, Siasia and oliseh) had collectively failed to qualify us for 2015, 17 ANC. They faced similar maladministration from the NFF and couldn’t vouchsafed a common ANC qualification which received them a termination. Rohr, used the same players to Qualify us for 2018 World Cup. I am saying this, simply to state that hiring an indigenous coach might cause the team to Regress by failing to qualify for the usual ANC. Rohr, so far doesn’t seem like he is capable of winning (mentality wise) but, if we’re to hire a new coach, he has to be a World class Coach and if a world class coach isn’t guaranteed, a top tactician should be hired next to Rohr. Incidentally, what kind of sound Foreign coach will accept the sort of treatment meted to Rohr by the NFF??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Silentgroper(m): 3:21am On Oct 16, 2021
peacefull:


Oh! Yes! I wrote about some half Japanese and half Nigerian sports players!
Thank you so much for read my diary! I really appreciate you!!

I checked about Nigerian football players in Japan. What I read is, 2 players in J1, 4 players in J3, total 6 players.

And when I checked about Nigerian football players in Japan, first time I saw name is Peter Maduabuchi Utaka.
Second is Chico Ofoedu. He joined J.LEAGUE from this year.

I saw his 2 names.
Chico Ofoedu and Chikeluba Francis Ofoedu.
Alright.. Domo arigato gozaimasu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 4:06am On Oct 16, 2021
humility33:


Rohr is not competent most of this coaches u see ralling round low ranked Africa teams because thats the best they can get.... they can't get a top coaching jobs in their coaches because they don't have the skill set to excel

So rohr can't give what he dont have

So, why did oliseh, Siasia and keshi failed for qualify us for ANC for us to even consider Rohr?? If oliseh and Siasia had done a good job, we won’t had hired rohr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 4:19am On Oct 16, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqHq-AfShDI&feature=emb_title

Highlight of dribbling wizard Chidera. In this game, he hit the crossbar, created chances, dribbled. He is presently Nigeria most creative player and should be handed the number 10 shirt and also LW position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:45am On Oct 16, 2021
TheSuperNerd:
It is never a complete day unless you shade Kelechi small.... grin


Tijani is a Ball playing CDM by the way. A hard worker as well but not the answer to our Midfield dictator role just yet. Let him keep growing.
He and Raphael Onyedika Nwadike are similar in some aspects.





If i stand to be corrected but to me Samson Tijani is like Jorginho, fernandinho or own own
Sunday Oliseh.
A deep lying midfield creator


This is a comparison made by footballtalentscout website for talent of the day.
In fact the website comared him to Stanislav Lobotka of napoli as per playing style


TALENT OF THE DAY

Samson Tijani
Age: 18
Country: ��
Club: RB Salzburg
Position: DM/CM
Player role: deep-lying orchestrator
Strengths: passing, vision, tackling, positioning, intelligence, teamwork
Foot: right
Similar type of player: Stanislav Lobotka

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peacefull(f): 6:41am On Oct 16, 2021
Silentgroper:
Alright.. Domo arigato gozaimasu.

Do Itashimashite!! (о´∀`о)

I maybe will try to write about some Nigerian football players in Japan one day!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:57am On Oct 16, 2021
12large1:


So, why did oliseh, Siasia and keshi failed for qualify us for ANC for us to even consider Rohr?? If oliseh and Siasia had done a good job, we won’t had hired rohr

Siasia was never given d job on a clean slate..he was hired on a rescue mission when d ship was abt sinking,unfortunately he didn't succeed smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:37am On Oct 16, 2021
I know what Jacek's reports on Tijani says and he is not far from it.
That is partly why I tagged Tijani a Ball playing CDM. He has the qualities to orchestrate plays from deep but he isn't there yet which is why I said "..Not the answer to our MF dictator role JUST YET" in the post you quoted.

Watching Tijani at Salzburg, Hartberg and now at Liefering tells me for now that he still needs serious work.

Meanwhile, if you know Raphael Onyedika Nwadike well enough, then you will know why I class both as similar in SOME aspects. Both are Ball playing CDMs. Both are gifted in the forward pass from deep but still growing in other aspects of their MF roles. And both also show good potential in defensive phases.

So relax. Let the boy grow even more at Liefering.


Philosopher1979:


If i stand to be corrected but to me Samson Tijani is like Jorginho, fernandinho or own own
Sunday Oliseh.
A deep lying midfield creator


This is a comparison made by footballtalentscout website for talent of the day.
In fact the website comared him to Stanislav Lobotka of napoli as per playing style


TALENT OF THE DAY

Samson Tijani
Age: 18
Country: ��
Club: RB Salzburg
Position: DM/CM
Player role: deep-lying orchestrator
Strengths: passing, vision, tackling, positioning, intelligence, teamwork
Foot: right
Similar type of player: Stanislav Lobotka


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:52am On Oct 16, 2021
elyte89:


Siasia was never given d job on a clean slate..he was hired on a rescue mission when d ship was abt sinking,unfortunately he didn't succeed smiley
Samson Siasia first eagles job was a rescue one after Austin Eguavoen failed and second eagles job too was also a rescue one after Sunday Oliseh lost control of the team.

Siasia was never appointed as substantial eagles coach but always call to save already sinking team.

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