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Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 6:16am On Oct 22, 2021
dlox147:
1. I am guessing you are a Protestant/"Pentecostal".
I am 80% sure you have books written by your GO/Pastor/Evangelist etc that serves as a guide to daily/monthly/yearly/seasonal prayers, oftentimes these books a loaded with personal beliefs of the writer and you may have treated these materials as Christian materials.

2. I won't also be shocked to find stickers of various inscriptions proclaiming different prayers that you may have also bought with the believe that it can add value to your spiritual life.

3. However the Rosary is a guide to a series of prayers, which is a collection of different Bible quotations including a recital of the only prayer the Lord Jesus Christ taught his disciples, same way you church may have arranged a series of prayer that come in succession too.

4. Try not condemn what you know little of.
1. Your assumption is 100% wrong. I own none of those and have no care for such things which have nothing to do with Jesus Christundecided

2. Again, you are 100% wrong ! I own no such thing since they are Pagan where Jesus Christ is concerned. undecided

3. Your rosaries are born of the doctrines of men(your churches) and have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ and even His teachings as far as prayer is concerned. undecided

4. You are free to continue embracing the doctrines and traditions of of instead of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. What I do here is point out how those practices have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ who condemned such as lies designed to deceive people away from following His Truth- Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by NaijaSatanlst(op): 6:27am On Oct 22, 2021
dlox147:
I am guessing you are a Protestant/"Pentecostal"if yes, then it is safe to assume that you have books written by your GO/Pastor/Evangelist etc that serves as a guide to daily/monthly/yearly/seasonal prayers, oftentimes these books a loaded with personal beliefs of the writer and you may have treated these materials as Christian materials.
I won't also be shocked to find stickers of various inscriptions proclaiming different prayers that you may have also bought with the believe that it can add value to your spiritual life.
If the above is correct then can the above be characterized as Christian practices?
However the Rosary is a guide to a series of prayers, which is a collection of different Bible quotations including a recital of the only prayer the Lord Jesus Christ taught his disciples, same way you church may have arranged a series of prayer that come in succession too.
Try not condemn what you know little of.
Trust me arguing with that guy is pointless. He will take you on a merry-go-round. He is a special type of Christian.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by unmask: 6:30am On Oct 22, 2021
Triangles1:
Yes of course, with all the jazz, charm, juju voodoo, the white still colonized and explore.

A man is made of what he thinks and believes in.
with all the Bible and Qur'an, your president is your president
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by joyandfaith: 6:44am On Oct 22, 2021
harmargedon:
I'm not a lawyer bro, but if I were, It would be different.
ok
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Alabule: 7:11am On Oct 22, 2021
joyandfaith:
Cutlass is a farming tool. It can be used to cut wood.
Are u saying police officers should be arresting people for having knives?
Question is why bring the cutlass to a rally?
If he had attacked anyone with the Cutlass we will still blame the police for not doing their job.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Psoul(m): 7:46am On Oct 22, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
Catholics wear rosaries and Methodists have special rituals called holy communion
Why not concentrate in your Satanic Teachings and leave Christianity and Islamic religions alone as you know nothing about these religions.
Don't you think it will do u good to take this piece of advice?
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Neddyogu(m): 7:49am On Oct 22, 2021
so what was he doing with charms and machete on the protest ground? Did he come to clear grass or to worship his gods? A machete is a goddamned weapon.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by NaijaSatanlst(op): 7:51am On Oct 22, 2021
Psoul:
Why not concentrate in your Satanic Teachings and leave Christianity and Islamic religions alone as you know nothing about these religions.
Don't you think it will do u good to take this piece of advice?
I don't worship/believe in Satan. So what's your point?
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by hahn(m): 8:31am On Oct 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
A Bible is not a charm but simply a book. Unless you want the cops to go around arresting folks for having books, I suggest you give your reasoning there a thorough sweeping. undecided

As for the arresting of people carrying what you call charms, your anger should be directed at the Nigerian police and laws that enable such ridiculousness. undecided
People use the bible to swear and wish the worst for their so called enemies.

If we should consider all the genocide, murder, rape , incest and outright lies in the bible it should be banned altogether undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by SSIPON(m): 8:50am On Oct 22, 2021
edward1106:
He didn't make any point at all with respect to his first statement. In a protest ground, u have a Cutlass and you expect not to be arrested?! It's like hla protester holding a gun( an extreme case) and you expect he or she won't shoot. Put on your charm, no one will disturb you but what is the Cutlass for? Farm work in a protest? Probably, they fear he is about to cultivate the police men' skulls?
There are cases where people are arrested and disposed of their charms.
Okay, take a look at that Sunday Igboho case where the police detained a cat because they believed that Sunday Igboho turned into the cat. Omo take it or leave it. The police are superstitious too
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by michael807: 9:39am On Oct 22, 2021
HMM we too religious in this country let try to understand that same way u take ur bible other spiritual items in ur bag or to church same way this men believe in they charm, let us not miss under stance individual believe
life is just choice ok
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by miketayo(m): 10:05am On Oct 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
It is most definitely not done in the catholic church the way it was done in scripture. Carefully read Matthew 26 vs 25 -30 and then compare it to the ritual you have in your catholic establishments today. undecided
U obviously haven't been to a Catholic church nor know anything about it. Mat 26 vs 30 is word for word how it's done in the Catholic Church. Don't be ignorant
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by LordReed(m): 10:16am On Oct 22, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
So I just came online and I saw on the front page that an EndSARS protester was arrested for possessing charm and cutlass. This is not the first time the Nigerian Police Force has arrested someone for possession charms.

I just wanted to make this clear that in a country where there is supposed to be religious freedom, arresting someone for possessing charm is like arresting a Muslim for possession the Qur'an or a Christian for possessing the Bible.

If It was a Christian/Muslim that was arrested, people would have cried persecution/islamophobia. But now a traditional worshippers is carrying what He believes in and was arrested for it, y'all are real quiet. I'm sure some of you like are even happy with the arrest. undecided

Una good evening.
I think it's in the criminal code that attempt to use charms to harm people is punishable by imprisonment. I don't think possession is criminalised but it would be hard to defend that you simply possess the charm without intent to harm.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 11:07am On Oct 22, 2021
hahn:
People use the bible to swear and wish the worst for their so called enemies.

If we should consider all the genocide, murder, rape , incest and outright lies in the bible it should be banned altogether undecided
Ok but in the Nigerian criminal code, charms are defined as follows...
...charm which is pretended or reputed to possess power to protect burglars, robbers, thieves or other malefactors, or to aid or assist in any way in the perpetration of any burglary, housebreaking, robbery or theft, or in the perpetration of any offence whatsoever, or to prevent, hinder or delay the detection of or conviction for any offence whatsoever;
So, you can see that books don't qualify as charms, regardless of what bias you may gold against what is in fact written in them. undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 11:10am On Oct 22, 2021
miketayo:
U obviously haven't been to a Catholic church nor know anything about it. Mat 26 vs 30 is word for word how it's done in the Catholic Church. Don't be ignorant
There are more than enough video evidence of what is the communion ceremony online which show that what is done in your gatherings is not what Jesus Christ commanded in Matthew 26 vs 25 - 30. undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by hahn(m): 11:14am On Oct 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Ok but in the Nigerian criminal code, charms are defined as follows...
So, you can see that books don't qualify as charms, regardless of what bias you may gold against what is in fact written in them. undecided
Keyword: Pretended

Which is everything the bible and quran are undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 11:18am On Oct 22, 2021
hahn:
Keyword: Pretended
Which is everything the bible and quran are undecided
Again....
...charm which is pretended or reputed to possess power to protect burglars, robbers, thieves or other malefactors, or to aid or assist in any way in the perpetration of any burglary, housebreaking, robbery or theft, or in the perpetration of any offence whatsoever, or to prevent, hinder or delay the detection of or conviction for any offence whatsoever;
undecided

So hope you now see why your law men are not out there trying to arrest everyone carrying books pretending said books give them wings. undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Psoul(m): 11:37am On Oct 22, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
I don't worship/believe in Satan. So what's your point?
......do u see how u guys make fool of yourselves just for stupid reasons.
May be you have forgotten that your Monika is NaijaSatanlst.
You purposely used "l" instead of "i".
Continue in your Satanism.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by LordReed(m): 11:41am On Oct 22, 2021
samtee37:
My attire to Unilag, tomorrow
Don't. You could be arrested.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by miketayo(m): 11:48am On Oct 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
There are more than enough video evidence of what is the communion ceremony online which show that what is done in your gatherings is not what Jesus Christ commanded in Matthew 26 vs 25 - 30. undecided
What did Jesus christ command and what is done in the Catholic Church.. if u can't explain this den u have no point
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by NaijaSatanlst(op): 12:54pm On Oct 22, 2021
Psoul:
......do u see how u guys make fool of yourselves just for stupid reasons.
May be you have forgotten that your Monika is NaijaSatanlst.
You purposely used "l" instead of "i".
Continue in your Satanism.
I intentionally chose this moniker for a reason, and that reason is to trigger people like you. So far, it seems to be working.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by NaijaSatanlst(op): 12:56pm On Oct 22, 2021
LordReed:
I think it's in the criminal code that attempt to use charms to harm people is punishable by imprisonment. I don't think possession is criminalised but it would be hard to defend that you simply possess the charm without intent to harm.
The main question here now is, how do you prove that someone used charm to harm someone? How does that differ from a Christian saying that He prayed to God to eliminate his enemies and God answered his prayers?
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by LordReed(m): 1:26pm On Oct 22, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
The main question here now is, how do you prove that someone used charm to harm someone? How does that differ from a Christian saying that He prayed to God to eliminate his enemies and God answered his prayers?
Well that is how lawyers make their bread. LoL!
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by litaninja(m): 1:39pm On Oct 22, 2021
It certainly isn't. However, the intent to cause bodily harm with a cutlass is. He was simply arrested on that suspicion and the law will proceed to take its course.

NaijaSatanlst:
It's not illegal to carry cutlass in Nigeria.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by edward1106(m): 2:41pm On Oct 22, 2021
SSIPON:
There are cases where people are arrested and disposed of their charms.
Okay, take a look at that Sunday Igboho case where the police detained a cat because they believed that Sunday Igboho turned into the cat. Omo take it or leave it. The police are superstitious too
The case of Sunday igboho is different. They have Intel to suggest he was inside. Not seeing him at all made the inference he would have turned into a cat.
There is a case of a parrot that informed its owner who is a druglord that police are around. The Parrot was shouting police are around in their native dialet. The owner tried to escape but was caught. The police also ARRESTED the parrot for allegedly collaborating in the crime. So, ...........
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 4:57pm On Oct 22, 2021
miketayo:
What did Jesus christ command and what is done in the Catholic Church.. if u can't explain this den u have no point
Here's a link that carefully details your catholic ceremony.
Norms for the Distribution and Reception of Holy Communion under Both Kinds in the Dioceses of the United States of America

Altar, holy, Passover, Old Covenant, priests, etc.... none of that has anything to do with what Jesus Christ commanded of us. I'd you still want to continue denying these things... go right ahead undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by miketayo(m): 8:21pm On Oct 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Here's a link that carefully details your catholic ceremony.
Norms for the Distribution and Reception of Holy Communion under Both Kinds in the Dioceses of the United States of America

Altar, holy, Passover, Old Covenant, priests, etc.... none of that has anything to do with what Jesus Christ commanded of us. I'd you still want to continue denying these things... go right ahead undecided
you are not making any sense.
put ur points here.. stop blabbing around, denying what things? u haven't said anything since. communion is given at every mass. y m I wasting my time with u huh huh
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by thecommunist(m): 2:04am On Oct 23, 2021
Kobojunkie:
They have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity as taught you by Jesus Christ. undecided

All of these ideas, including your anointing, were imported mostly from Pagan religions and beliefs which have nothing to do with Jesus Christ's New Covenant. undecided
Hey! Calm down. I don't use neither do I believe In anointing oil or any of those items. I am only asking a question based on the context of the question.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 2:06am On Oct 23, 2021
thecommunist:
Hey! Calm down. I use anointing oil or any of those items. I am only asking a question based on the context of the question.
Again, anointing oils have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity as taught you by Jesus Christ. undecided

All of these ideas, including your "anointings", were imported mostly from Pagan religions and beliefs which have nothing to do with Jesus Christ's New Covenant. undecided

Just because you use anointing oils in your rituals does not then mean that ritual of yours is sanctioned by Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ never taught or mentioned the use of any such oils as part of the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God which He instructed His followers to live by. undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by thecommunist(m): 2:08am On Oct 23, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again, anointing oils have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity as taught you by Jesus Christ. undecided

All of these ideas, including your anointing, were imported mostly from Pagan religions and beliefs which have nothing to do with Jesus Christ's New Covenant. undecided

Just because you use anointing oils in your rituals does not then mean that ritual of yours is sanctioned by Jesus Christ. undecided
that was a typo, I don't use it. Just try to be objective please. No need for all these excess show of emotion.
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by Kobojunkie: 2:10am On Oct 23, 2021
thecommunist:
that was a typo, I don't use it. Just try to be objective please. No need for all these excess show of emotion.
There are no excess shows of emotions on my part. You want the Truth of Jesus Christ? This is it! There are no such things included as part of the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. undecided
Re: No One Should Be Arrested In Nigeria For Possessing Charms by thecommunist(m): 3:41am On Oct 23, 2021
Kobojunkie:
There are no excess shows of emotions on my part. You want the Truth of Jesus Christ? This is it! There are no such things included as part of the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. undecided
ok. Thank you, bye.
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