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Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 9:21am On Oct 23, 2021
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by TenQ: 2:18pm On Oct 23, 2021
AntiChristian:
It's easy to believe that the sons of God in Genesis 6:4 could crave sex and come over to earth and have sex thereby birthing giants!

If sons of Elohim could crave sex in heaven, then how is Islamic sex in heaven out of point?

And moreso, fornication is forbidden on earth, why won't sex be permitted in heaven?

It's like you all are damn hypocrites! You believe everything in your Bible no matter how absurd you sure would find an explanation for it.

But let a Muslim do such...na deaf hear it'll fall on.

Solomon had 700 concubines and 300 wives! Who counted them? And how were they managed?

Also in numbers 31, Yahweh told Moses to avenge some by killings. But the virgin ladies were preserved for the warriors!

Christians believe these verses and many others in hypocrisy!
Please can you show me just ONE Hadith about the relationship of Muslims with Allah in paradise apart from sex, alcohol and pleasure.

Thank you
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 7:00am On Oct 24, 2021
TenQ:
Please can you show me just ONE Hadith about the relationship of Muslims with Allah in paradise apart from sex, alcohol and pleasure.

Thank you
Muslim narrated in his Saheeh from Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people of Paradise will eat and drink therein, but they will not blow their noses or defecate or urinate. Their food there will turn into burps and sweat like musk. They will be caused to recite tasbeeh and praise, as they are caused to breathe.” According to another report: “tasbeeh and praise as you are caused to breathe i.e., their tasbeeh and praise will be (second nature) like breathing. End quote from Haadi al-Arwaah, p. 285.
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 7:16am On Oct 24, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
According to the book (Bible) God created humans with the ability to reproduce like other earthly creatures that's the purpose of sex in the life of humans. But in the spirit realms there is no need for increase as God created all heavenly creatures once and for all times.
Satan masterminded the movement of his fellow angels to the earth by calling their attention to what they never had before: SEX
Had it been that humans weren't involved in sex angels won't be lured into it but since humans are intelligent beings just like angels the spirit sons of God were deceived into doing what they're not supposed to do.
Jesus clarified it when he told his followers that those going to heaven will not get married nor have children!
So sex in heaven is a communication of ideas that doesn't fit in anyway with common sense! undecided
Why did your God create his son's with potent "John Thomases" just like humans?

If God's sons are potent sexually like this, then it's understandable how some claim your God had a begotten son.

The way a father is is the way a son is.

Does your God look like those of his son's who came to have sex on earth?

Satan is not an Angel in Islam. He is a Jinn. Angels are never disobedient to their creator.
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 7:25am On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
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Did take his disciple's wife?
He took other's donkey without prior permission!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 7:35am On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
He took other's donkey without prior permission!
Lie!
Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.
Matthew 21: 2 - 3
He took permission, if any asked, the rest of the story is not told. He must have returned it. He did not use it thereafter. No record.

When he said the Lord, he must have been known as claimed.
But somebody, visiting his son, saw his wife, claiming that Allah, asked him to flirt with the woman, forced the husband to divorce and legally (illegally) acquired the wife. Haba!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 7:42am On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
Lie!
Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.
Matthew 21: 2 - 3
He took permission, if any asked, the rest of the story is not told. He must have returned it. He did not use it thereafter. No record.

When he said the Lord, he must have been known as claimed.
But somebody, visiting his son, saw his wife, claiming that Allah, asked him to flirt with the woman, forced the husband to divorce and legally (illegally) acquired the wife. Haba!
Stop adding to the bible else the revelation curse will be on your head.

Did Jesus seek permission before taking the donkey?

If you did the same thing Jesus did this day what do you think you'll be sued for?

1. Theft.
2. Invasion of private property
3. Breaking and entering
4.unlawful possession...
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 8:27am On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
Stop adding to the bible else the revelation curse will be on your head.

Did Jesus seek permission before taking the donkey?

If you did the same thing Jesus did this day what do you think you'll be sued for?

1. Theft.
2. Invasion of private property
3. Breaking and entering
4.unlawful possession...
So, because of this action, though, not accused of stealing. As a Muslim do you still believe in Jesus?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 8:33am On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
So, because of this action, though, not accused of stealing. As a Muslim do you still believe in Jesus?
I believe in Jesus not the biblical one sha!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by TenQ: 3:34pm On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
Muslim narrated in his Saheeh from Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people of Paradise will eat and drink therein, but they will not blow their noses or defecate or urinate. Their food there will turn into burps and sweat like musk. They will be caused to recite tasbeeh and praise, as they are caused to breathe.” According to another report: “tasbeeh and praise as you are caused to breathe i.e., their tasbeeh and praise will be (second nature) like breathing. End quote from Haadi al-Arwaah, p. 285.
Thank you for this. Even though, the emphasis is more on the enjoyment and comfort of the muslims, Its the nearest to God I've heard (in other words, their breathings will glorify Allah).

Please compare with:
Revelation 7:9-17
9 After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing in front of the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes and held palm branches in their hands. 10 And they were shouting with a great roar,

“Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne
and from the Lamb!”

11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living beings. And they fell before the throne with their faces to the ground and worshiped God. 12 They sang,

“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor
and power and strength belong to our God
forever and ever! Amen.”

13 Then one of the twenty-four elders asked me, “Who are these who are clothed in white? Where did they come from?”

14 And I said to him, “Sir, you are the one who knows.”

Then he said to me, “These are the ones who died in[a] the great tribulation.[b] They have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb and made them white.

15 “That is why they stand in front of God’s throne
and serve him day and night in his Temple.
And he who sits on the throne
will give them shelter.
16 They will never again be hungry or thirsty;
they will never be scorched by the heat of the sun.
17 For the Lamb on the throne[c]
will be their Shepherd.
He will lead them to springs of life-giving water.
And God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”


One is personal the other is very distant
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 3:42pm On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
I believe in Jesus not the biblical one sha!
Fine, which?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by uthlaw: 4:35pm On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
Fine, which?
as a messenger of God.
Can't you just imagine,a single person as God and son of God the same time....
If he is God,who sent him to go die for the sin he bring into existence for the people he created....why can't him just cancel the sin instead of dying!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 4:38pm On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
Fine, which?
The son of Mary. Who is 100% human!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 4:53pm On Oct 24, 2021
TenQ:
Thank you for this. Even though, the emphasis is more on the enjoyment and comfort of the muslims, Its the nearest to God I've heard (in other words, their breathings will glorify Allah).

Please compare with:
Revelation 7:9-17
9 After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing in front of the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes and held palm branches in their hands. 10 And they were shouting with a great roar,

“Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne
and from the Lamb!”

11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living beings. And they fell before the throne with their faces to the ground and worshiped God. 12 They sang,

“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor
and power and strength belong to our God
forever and ever! Amen.”

13 Then one of the twenty-four elders asked me, “Who are these who are clothed in white? Where did they come from?”

14 And I said to him, “Sir, you are the one who knows.”

Then he said to me, “These are the ones who died in[a] the great tribulation.[b] They have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb and made them white.

15 “That is why they stand in front of God’s throne
and serve him day and night in his Temple.
And he who sits on the throne
will give them shelter.
16 They will never again be hungry or thirsty;
they will never be scorched by the heat of the sun.
17 For the Lamb on the throne[c]
will be their Shepherd.
He will lead them to springs of life-giving water.
And God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”


One is personal the other is very distant
Heaven is not like an acted script of Nigerian democracy where we have the president, vice president, senate president and the two houses...

God dey on throne.

Sheep dey on throne.

Angels dey around.

Elders dey around.

This looks unreal.
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 5:05pm On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
The son of Mary. Who is 100% human!
And He was from Saudi Arabia?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 5:13pm On Oct 24, 2021
MightySparrow:
And He was from Saudi Arabia?
Nigeria!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 5:24pm On Oct 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
Nigeria!
You see yourself, was it not Jewish scriptures your prophet copied, and manipulated.
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by TenQ: 3:18am On Oct 25, 2021
AntiChristian:
Heaven is not like an acted script of Nigerian democracy where we have the president, vice president, senate president and the two houses...

God dey on throne.

Sheep dey on throne.

Angels dey around.

Elders dey around.

This looks unreal.
I agree with you, to the sensual person, reality is frockling around naked perpetual wide eyed virgins and booze all day long while exhaling glory be to Allah with every breath. If eternity is all about sex and booze, why did God create human beings?
I am still grappling with the kind of paradise Muslim women will be. Would they be surrounded with 100 virgin boys and booze too?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 5:28am On Oct 25, 2021
TenQ:
I agree with you, to the sensual person, reality is frockling around naked perpetual wide eyed virgins and booze all day long while exhaling glory be to Allah with every breath. If eternity is all about sex and booze, why did God create human beings?
I am still grappling with the kind of paradise Muslim women will be. Would they be surrounded with 100 virgin boys and booze too?
Eve was created to be a companion for Adam according to your Bible. So a righteous woman will also be renewed and also be a companion to a righteous husband.

And God created humans and Jinn only to worship Him.
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by AntiChristian: 5:36am On Oct 25, 2021
MightySparrow:
You see yourself, was it not Jewish scriptures your prophet copied, and manipulated.
Yeah, he was a superman! An unlettered who can't read nor write manipulated Jewish scriptures...

Blatant liar!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by TenQ: 6:15am On Oct 25, 2021
AntiChristian:
Eve was created to be a companion for Adam according to your Bible. So a righteous woman will also be renewed and also be a companion to a righteous husband.
But unlike Adam, a Muslim man is entitled to several perpetual virgins in paradise. Is the Muslim woman just one of the appendages of a muslim man or rather that they would also be rewarded as equally as their male counterpart in paradise?
AntiChristian:
And God created humans and Jinn only to worship Him.
It gives the impression that Allah is not complete without creatures who need worship him.

The God of the Jews and Christians created Humans not because He needed their worship BUT simply as a reflection of Himself for His own Pleasure. i.e God created humans like flowers are planted for His own delight. Does a flower need to be anything else to please its planter?

BTW:
Angels were created as Messengers of God and these are different from Jinns!

Jinns are of no use to God except for damnation in hell!
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 8:57am On Oct 25, 2021
AntiChristian:
Yeah, he was a superman! An unlettered who can't read nor write manipulated Jewish scriptures...

Blatant liar!
So, he didn't know anything about Christianity in his time?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by Unlettered: 12:06pm On Oct 25, 2021
MightySparrow:
So, he didn't know anything about Christianity in his time?
Are we discussing him writing manipulated jewish scriptures or you re trying to shift the post to “knowing about christianity?”.

Muslims and islam is all about monotheism - one God. The other religions (jews, christians) have different messengers but the message has always been same.

Antichrist
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by Unlettered: 12:06pm On Oct 25, 2021
MightySparrow:
So, he didn't know anything about Christianity in his time?
Are we discussing him writing manipulated jewish scriptures or you re trying to shift the post to “knowing about christianity?”.

Muslims and islam is all about monotheism - one God. The other religions (jews, christians) have different messengers but the message has always been same.

Antichristian
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 12:32pm On Oct 25, 2021
Unlettered:
Are we discussing him writing manipulated jewish scriptures or you re trying to shift the post to “knowing about christianity?”.

Muslims and islam is all about monotheism - one God. The other religions (jews, christians) have different messengers but the message has always been same.

Antichristian
Who manipulated Jewish scriptures for what purpose?
Re: Ex Muslim Mochi: I Left Islam Because I Don't Believe In Eternal Sex After Death by MightySparrow: 1:17pm On Oct 25, 2021
AntiChristian:
Yeah, he was a superman! An unlettered who can't read nor write manipulated Jewish scriptures...

Blatant liar!
Why did he mention Torah and Injeel, no prior knowledge of them at all?
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