Abohboy:


I said most excluding Lagos, Ijebu land and I forgot to also mention those conquered by other kingdoms but for the most part Oyo ruled over all Yorubas in Benin, Oyo, Osun, Western Ekiti, Western Ogun State, Western Ondo and Western Lagos which made up the majority of Yoruba land

Great. No problem. Oyo Empire did well at a point in history.

Olu317:
Oyo never ruled western Yoruba enclave as well,apart from other sub kingdoms

Even the Northern Yoruba such as Ikoyi,Ketu, Popo, Iresa, Ogbomosho,Ancient Ogbon were ally to Oyo Empire and were not subjected to Oyo dictates

An Empire subject kingdoms she controls through tthorough the dictates of that kingdom. Anyway ,Oyo empire actually did well at a point in time in history.

Those are semantics. You say they were in Alliance. Did they pay tax or not ?

From my recollection, Oyo collected taxes from all yoruba kingdoms including the whole of Dahomey (present Benin republic) except ekiti and ondo because I believe they were buffer zones for the Benin kingdom and Benin supported them against oyo aggression in order to keep that buffer.

Remember ogedengbe? The ekiti/ondo warrior? He was supported by Benin kingdom against oyo but also tried to sack Benin kingdom himself at some point

Olu317:
Oyo never ruled western Yoruba enclave as well,apart from other sub kingdoms

Even the Northern Yoruba such as Ikoyi,Ketu, Popo, Iresa, Ogbomosho,Ancient Ogbon were ally to Oyo Empire and were not subjected to Oyo dictates

An Empire subject kingdoms she controls through tthorough the dictates of that kingdom. Anyway ,Oyo empire actually did well at a point in time in history.

Yes they were all of them were under the Oyo empire

Moorish:

Those are semantics. You say they were in Alliance. Did they pay tax or not ?

From my recollection, Oyo collected taxes from all yoruba kingdoms including the whole of Dahomey (present Benin republic) except ekiti and ondo because I believe they were buffer zones for the Benin kingdom and Benin supported them against oyo aggression in order to keep that buffer.

Remember ogedengbe? The ekiti/ondo warrior? He was supported by Benin kingdom agains oyo but also tried to sack Benin kingdom himself at some point

They weren't a buffer they were conquered by Benin and all attempts by Oyo to conquer it were failed

Abohboy:


They weren't a buffer they were conquered by Benin and all attempts by Oyo to conquer it were failed

I’m not too educated on eastern yoruba land pre colonial history but I do know that both ekiti and ondo showed strong Benin influences

I also know that the deji of akure was a tributary to the oba of Benin at some point but I do not know if that came as a result of respect/reverence or because they were subdued militarily by Benin

But there is also some history of wars between ekiti/ondo and Benin. Ogedengbe took an army to Benin kingdom and fought them but was captured or so

So, it seems ekiti/ondo were kinda semi-independent of Benin

I ask you, if they were conquered why aren’t those regions under Benin empire pre colonial maps ?

Moorish:

I’m not too educated on eastern yoruba land pre colonial history but I do know that both ekiti and ondo showed strong Benin influences

I also know that the deji of akure was a tributary to the oba of Benin at some point but I do not know if that came as a result of respect/reverence or because they were subdued militarily by Benin

But there is also some history of wars between ekiti/ondo and Benin. Ogedengbe took an army to Benin kingdom and fought them but was captured or so

So, it seems ekiti/ondo were kinda semi-independent of Benin

I ask you, if they were conquered why aren’t those regions under Benin empire pre colonial maps ?

They were subdued up until the late 1700s which is where most changes in Yoruba land occured as guns became more available and the Oyo empire collapsed more groups were able to gain independence and that's when Ogedengbe came up around that time

Abohboy:


They were subdued up until the late 1700s which is where most changes in Yoruba land occured as guns became more available and the Oyo empire collapsed more groups were able to gain independence and that's when Ogedengbe came up around that time

All maps of Benin kingdom do not indicate ekiti or ondo as part of Benin kingdom at any point in time

Moorish:

All maps of Benin kingdom do not indicate ekiti or ondo as part of Benin kingdom at any point in time

It's alleged that under Oba Ewuare over 401 towns mostly in Ekiti, Ondo and Igbo land were conquered and there are many stories about the Benin army defeating the Deji Of Akure in battle and taking over that kingdom the places where they didn't get past were the high hills in Ekiti and the Owo kingdom those areas in Ekiti and Ondo remained independent of the Benin empire throughout history

Moorish:

Those are semantics. You say they were in Alliance. Did they pay tax or not ?

From my recollection, Oyo collected taxes from all yoruba kingdoms including the whole of Dahomey (present Benin republic) except ekiti and ondo because I believe they were buffer zones for the Benin kingdom and Benin supported them against oyo aggression in order to keep that buffer.

Remember ogedengbe? The ekiti/ondo warrior? He was supported by Benin kingdom against oyo but also tried to sack Benin kingdom himself at some point

Tax as how ?Not all kingdoms paid tax to Oyo. Kindly go visit these different kingdoms to enquiry of their independent kingdom history,which will shock you.

Owu was the emerging Empire but abused her power which led to her destruction by joint Yoruba forces and not solely Oyo. This was the same thing that happened to Oyo which led to her collapse.

And when Ibadan, founded by Lagelu became a hub of refugees,wanted to assume the position of overlord,her ajeles were massacred in large number.

The point is that there were assumption in many written account as it regard Oyo,Iresa, Ogbon, Ikoyi. These kingdom were founded closely along same period but differs slightly. EOyo was founded by Oranmiyan and at a point he waged war against Katunga, a threshold of Empe-Nupe people.

Yoruba history is vast and not one man show thing in all ramification. Afterall, Aremo dies with his father in Oyo's law while this is not tenable in other kingdoms or vassal states. This also show that each clan has a way within her right over her domain. Oyo often fought who has no direct lineage to royalty and thereby influence the royal bloodline to be enthroned.


Cheers

Moorish:

All maps of Benin kingdom do not indicate ekiti or ondo as part of Benin kingdom at any point in time

At its greatest extent under Oba Ewuare it definitely contained parts of Ekiti and Ondo and I know for a fact that Akure was paying tribute to the Benin

That is one of the key point why it is a strong one
- By the eighth century, Ile-Ife was at that point an incredible Yoruba realm, one of the most punctual in Africa south of the Sahara-Sahel. Pretty much every Yoruba settlement follows its starting point to rulers of Ile-Ife. All things considered, Ife can be viewed as the social and profound country of the Yoruba country.

susanbuy:
That is one of the key point why it is a strong one
- By the eighth century, Ile-Ife was at that point an incredible Yoruba realm, one of the most punctual in Africa south of the Sahara-Sahel. Pretty much every Yoruba settlement follows its starting point to rulers of Ile-Ife. All things considered, Ife can be viewed as the social and profound country of the Yoruba country.

Agreed. Ile-Ife is our source

A Ghanaian lady once told me her people believe they migrated from ile-Ife. She is of the Ga tribe

I was shocked at the depth of Ife’s reach

Moorish:
All or most west African tribes were taken to the new world as slaves, but The yoruba culture is the only one that was retained by the slaves and is still very strong today in Brazil

I just pondered on this today not to belittle other tribes after all I’m married to an Igbo lady and they are a great race as well but there is just something about yoruba culture that defies any attempts to suppress it. It is innate, it is spiritual.

I salute all yoruba sons and daughters worldwide

This is a topic I know very well.

Actually, Yoruba slaves were among the last to be sold into slavery and Yoruba slave trading peaked during the period slavery was being abolished and slaves were gaining more freedom and rights. The bulk of Yoruba slaves came from Oyo-Dahomey wars in the 1800s, however african slavery started from the 1600s and until mid 1800s. Yoruba slaves did not start to feature in slavery until the late 1700s, peaking in the early to mid 1800s.

In order to understand deeper why Yoruba religion survived the most, you need to understand the conditions of living and times then. From the 1600s up until 1700s, slaves upon arrival were stripped off their identities, given new names, baptized as Christians and forced to learn the new language. Earlier-arriving and acculturated slaves were required to teach the newly arrived the new language and slaves were often paired with members from different tribes to break any tribal cohesion and ensure that African language transmission was difficult. By the 1800s, after slavery was abolished, this no longer was in force and times had changed drastically. Yoruba slaves, by and large, were not subject to harsh cultural stripping strictly enforced merely 100 years prior.

During the Oyo-Dahomey wars, several Yoruba villages were captured by the Dahomeans in their entirety and the entire village sold off together into slavery, including their gods and religious artefacts. Infact, the Dahomeans raided Yoruba villages frequently and successfully that Abeokuta was created in 1825 as a safe heaven from frequent slave raids by the Dahomeans. The British outlawed slavery in 1809 but abolishment became more enforced in the 1820s and Yoruba slavery peaked in the early 1800s to the mid 1800s.

Upon arrival in the Americas, Yoruba slaves enjoyed more freedom and liberty vs other slaves who had arrived earlier - a great number of these other slaves were American-born with very faint remembrance of home. To the Yoruba slaves, their ancestral home was still fresh. Slaves were starting to gain freedom - freedom to live as a free man, freedom to practice your religion freely etc. In some texts, the status of Yoruba slaves was more like indentured servants, who weren't slaves, often got paid and had more rights.

On the African continent, the British had established in Lagos in the mid 1800s and the Oba at that time period declared that any Yoruba descendants sold into slavery were free to return. Thus, hundreds, if not thousands, returned to Lagos where they settled and they brought with them Caribbean culture. Bishop Ajayi Crowther, is an example of a Yoruba slave captured with his entire village, who later returned to Yoruba land upon the clarion call to return home.

It may surprise you then that out of the 97 archbishops there have been, the first black archbishop in the Anglican Church was ordained in 2005 with the last Archbishop of York, John Sentamu.

But the Anglican church has not always been so closed minded, as the first ever ordained Bishop and the last black bishop to get close to the illustrious position of Archbishop was Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther in 1864.

Born in today’s Oyo State, Nigeria. Ajayi was a Yoruba man who also identified with the Creole ethic group from Sierra Leone. Yet Nigeria was a ripe picking spot for slavers in the early 1800’s and at the age of 12, Ajayi and his family along with his village. Once captured by the Muslim Fulani slave raiders, he was soon sold off to Portuguese slave traders later in the year 1821.

However, before Ajayi would become another statistic, the British Royal Navy boarded the slave ship and was taken to Freetown, Serria Leone where he was released.

https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/history-of-slavery/community-heroes-of-the-past-bishop-samuel-ajayi-crowther/

Being the last major slave group to arrive, they brought their culture and religion, which was still fresh in them, and taught them to other acculturated slaves who often were looking to reconnect to mama Africa. From there, the religion gradually grew and expanded to a few other countries where Yoruba slaves were not even sent to. Ifa religion has become an all-encompassing religion for afro-descendants looking to reconnect to mama Africa, but understand that not all Ifa adherents are necessarily of Yoruba descent. Black descendants of other African tribal descent freely joined and became members of the religion. Roman Catholicism originated from Rome and today has millions of adherents worldwide, however, majority of Roman Catholics are not Roman, neither are they of Roman ancestry.

In terms of numbers, the estimated number of Yoruba slave exports was no more than 500,000. In comparison, 1.2m Igbo slaves were exported from the Bight of Biafra. Yoruba slaves were exported mostly via the Bight of Benin. See attached pictures below.

As of the late 1800s to early 1900s, Yoruba language was a living language in South America (a living language refers to being spoken natively at home, within the surrounding community, at the market etc.), spoken especially by African-born slaves, who had become older. However, between 1920 to 1930, the language had gone extinct as a native language spoken in the Americas.

Understand that today, Yoruba is not spoken as a native language in the Caribbean or Americas. It has survived, however, as a liturgical language, similar to how Latin is used by the Catholic church during religious celebration but not spoken beyond religious settings. The priests are often more fluent in reciting the language recitals than the members, and are often taught proper pronunciations and word meanings during priestly initiations.

Given the favorable circumstances in which Yoruba slaves found themselves, it is often wondered why the language did not survive as a native language and transmitted down to generations living today, similar to what we have in Africa?

Finally, the black renaissance has been on the rise since the early 2000s and the reconnection of afro descendants to the motherland has been stronger than ever. The Ifa religion is often among the first pieces of cultural connection interested afro descendants come across and cling on to, regardless of if they are actually of Yoruba ancestry or not, thus contributing more to the spread and popularity of Ifa in the Americas.

Abohboy:


Not only the Yoruba
The Fon survived in Haiti through Voodoo which is Vodun
The Igbo survived in Jamaica through Obeah
The Congolese survived in Brazil through Candomble

All African peoples survived and passed their culture down not only the Yoruba it is just they had the largest numbers as they were the last group to come in large numbers so less died and less were rooted out by Christianity and indoctrination that other groups suffered

Voodo originated not only through Fongbe but also Creole, Ewe , Kwa people etc. The Creole were through whom this word were heard which was due to the role the Creole played between West African and European colonilists.

If you have visited Benin Republic before to do research on ethnic group,then you will realise the Yorubas in Benin Republic were part of the most exported slave to New World from 1700s.

Infact, account of invasion of Songhai also contributed to slave trade,which many were exported to the New world that Yorubas were also residents in that land at that period in time because there are account of Yoruba Race being mentioned in that land pre1400s .

bigfrancis21:


This is a topic I know very well.

Actually, Yoruba slaves were among the last to be sold into slavery and Yoruba slave trading peaked during the period slavery was being abolished and slaves were gaining more freedom and rights. The bulk of Yoruba slaves came from Oyo-Dahomey wars in the 1800s, however african slavery started from the 1600s and until mid 1800s. Yoruba slaves did not start to feature in slavery until the late 1700s, peaking in the early to mid 1800s.

In order to understand deeper why Yoruba religion survived the most, you need to understand the conditions of living and times then. From the 1600s up until 1700s, slaves upon arrival were stripped off their identities, given new names, baptized as Christians and forced to learn the new language. Earlier-arriving and acculturated slaves were required to teach the newly arrived the new language and slaves were often paired with members from different tribes to break any tribal cohesion and ensure that African language transmission was difficult. By the 1800s, after slavery was abolished, this no longer was in force and times had changed drastically. Yoruba slaves, by and large, were not subject to harsh cultural stripping strictly enforced merely 100 years prior.

During the Oyo-Dahomey wars, several Yoruba villages were captured by the Dahomeans in their entirety and the entire village sold off together into slavery, including their gods and religious artefacts. Infact, the Dahomeans raided Yoruba villages frequently and successfully that Abeokuta was created in 1825 as a safe heaven from frequent slave raids by the Dahomeans. The British outlawed slavery in 1809 but abolishment became more enforced in the 1820s and Yoruba slavery peaked in the early 1800s to the mid 1800s.

Upon arrival in the Americas, Yoruba slaves enjoyed more freedom and liberty vs other slaves who had arrived earlier - a great number of these other slaves were American-born with very faint remembrance of home. To the Yoruba slaves, their ancestral home were still fresh. Slaves were starting to gain freedom - freedom to live as a free man, freedom to practice your religion freely etc. In some texts, the status of Yoruba slaves was more like indentured servants, who weren't slaves, often got paid and had more rights.

On the African continent, the British had established in Lagos in the mid 1800s and the Oba at that time period declared that any Yoruba descendants sold into slavery were free to return. Thus, hundreds, if not thousands, returned to Lagos where they settled and they brought with them Caribbean culture. Bishop Ajayi Crowther, is an example of a Yoruba slave captured with his entire village, who later returned to Yoruba land upon the clarion call to return home.


https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/history-of-slavery/community-heroes-of-the-past-bishop-samuel-ajayi-crowther/

Being the last major slave group to arrive, they brought their culture and religion, which was still fresh in them, and taught them to other acculturated slaves who often were looking to reconnect to mama Africa. From there, the religion gradually grew and expanded to a few other countries where Yoruba slaves were not even sent to. Ifa religion has become an all-encompassing religion for afro-descendants looking to reconnect to mama Africa, but understand that not all Ifa adherents are necessarily of Yoruba descent. Black descendants of other African tribal descent freely joined and became members of the religion. Roman Catholicism originated from Rome and today has millions of adherents worldwide, however, majority of Roman Catholics are not Roman, neither are they of Roman ancestry.

In terms of numbers, the estimated number of Yoruba slave exports was no more than 500,000. In comparison, 1.2m Igbo slaves were exported from the Bight of Biafra. Yoruba slaves were exported mostly via the Bight of Benin. See attached pictures below.

As of the late 1800s to early 1900s, Yoruba language was a living language in South America (a living language refers to being spoken natively at home, within the surrounding community, at the market etc.), spoken especially by African-born slaves, who had become older. However, between 1920 to 1930, the language had gone extinct as a native language spoken in the Americas.

Understand that today, Yoruba is not spoken as a native language in the Caribbean or Americas. It has survived, however, as a liturgical language, similar to how Latin is used by the Catholic church during religions celebration but not spoken beyond religious settings. The priests are often more fluent in reciting the language recitals than the members, and are often taught proper pronunciations and word meanings during priestly initiations.

Given the favorable circumstances in which Yoruba slaves found themselves, it is often wondered why the language did not survive as a native language and transmitted down to generations living today, similar to what we have in Africa?

Finally, the black renaissance has been on the rise since the early 2000s and the reconnection of afro descendants to the motherland has been stronger than ever. The Ifa religion is often among the first pieces of cultural connection interested afro descendants come across and cling on to, regardless of if they are actually of Yoruba ancestry or not, thus contributing more to the spread and popularity of Ifa in the Americas.

Something tells me tribal marks also played a vital role in helping Yorubas re-establish community on the other side, which should, if true, help the argument for the resilience of Yoruba culture besides post 1807 seeing the most Yoruba captives.

I think that's because the Yorubas were the largest African ethnic group sold into slavery.

Abohboy:


It's alleged that under Oba Ewuare over 401 towns mostly in Ekiti, Ondo and Igbo land were conquered and there are many stories about the Benin army defeating the Deji Of Akure in battle and taking over that kingdom the places where they didn't get past were the high hills in Ekiti and the Owo kingdom those areas in Ekiti and Ondo remained independent of the Benin empire throughout history

This statement of 401 ekiti towns under Ewuare is not true. If you disagree to it, proof it bymentionig of such towns Ewuare controlled because there are no 401 towns in Ekiti during Ewuare's era.

Statement such as this, has no record nor have truth in it but mere assumption. Bini only had access to Europen in 1480s, which actually got them in contact with Portugal King.

It was after Ewuare and during the era of Ozolua that there was a firm contact with Biniland through port of Gwatto in the land of Ekalarderan around 1485-1486.

So, it is also ideal to assert fact with written account to that effect. Oba Bini is a son to Oni Oranmiyan who happened to be adescendant Ogun, a descendant of Odua. Therefore there is no reason dragging Bini into this thread if your intent is to make it a competition as usual. Some People are from different Royal Homes at Ileife and beyond ancestrally.

NubaVertigo:


Something tells me tribal marks also played a vital role in helping Yorubas re-establish community on the other side, which should, if true, help the argument for the resilience of Yoruba culture besides post 1807 seeing the most Yoruba captives.

Not all Yorubas make usage of tribal marks in the Yoruba ethnic group. Rather, once Akọsẹ̀tayé a child is done, factors for mark given may ensue or not.

Yoruba worldview of child dedication factor in a lot of thing in it. This is the reason before a Yoruba settlement in a land, Ifaodu divination is done to give name to such land according to the odu that comes up in the divination.

Rather, what drew them together was the language,even with their different dialects. Afterall, Yoruba people and other ethnic groups share some form similiar ethnic facial scarification.

Olu317:
This statement of 401 ekiti towns under Ewuare is not true. If you disagree to it, proof it bymentionig of such towns Ewuare controlled because there are no 401 towns in Ekiti during Ewuare's era.

Statement such as this, has no record nor have truth in it but mere assumption. Bini only had access to Europen in 1480s, which actually got them in contact with Portugal King.

It was after Ewuare and during the era of Ozolua that there was a firm contact with Biniland through port of Gwatto in the land of Ekalarderan around 1485-1486.

So, it is also ideal to assert fact with written account to that effect. Oba Bini is a son to Oni Oranmiyan who happened to be adescendant Ogun, a descendant of Odua. Therefore there is no reason dragging Bini into this thread if your intent is to make it a competition as usual. Some People are from different Royal Homes at Ileife and beyond ancestrally.

The statement is 401 Yoruba and Igbo towns and it never said only Ekiti it is in Ondo, Ekiti and the Igbo groups before the Niger River so those in Delta State, Bayelsa State and Kogi State etc

Moorish:

Those are semantics. You say they were in Alliance. Did they pay tax or not ?

From my recollection, Oyo collected taxes from all yoruba kingdoms including the whole of Dahomey (present Benin republic) except ekiti and ondo because I believe they were buffer zones for the Benin kingdom and Benin supported them against oyo aggression in order to keep that buffer.

Remember ogedengbe? The ekiti/ondo warrior? He was supported by Benin kingdom against oyo but also tried to sack Benin kingdom himself at some point

The Ibadan who were Ethnic Oyos and saw themselves as subjects of Alaafin ruled much of Ekiti and Ondo and that was what lead to the Ekiti Parapo Wars of Independence


Benin Supported Ibadan by Supplying them with Arms during the Ekiti Parapo Wars at Kiriji that was why General Ogedengbe attacked the Benin Kingdom in retaliation

Bonesbreaker:
that's because you topic na fake and lies

cry all you want

But not � on this beautiful thread

Abohboy:


Not only the Yoruba
The Fon survived in Haiti through Voodoo which is Vodun
The Igbo survived in Jamaica through Obeah
The Congolese survived in Brazil through Candomble

All African peoples survived and passed their culture down not only the Yoruba it is just they had the largest numbers as they were the last group to come in large numbers so less died and less were rooted out by Christianity and indoctrination that other groups suffered

your second paragraph is a lie
A clear lie
And you know that

agadez007:
If an Igbo man opens something like this to praise his ethnic group,hateful Yoruba children will start shouting chest beating up and down,even on TikTok onece somebody makes an Igbo appreciation video,they start convulsing like sick dogs

is the guy up there that goes by the name "bonesbreaker" not eboe

Eboe fools everywhere

Hintona:
I think that's because the Yorubas were the largest African ethnic group sold into slavery.

Google

That's not true

christistruth01:


The Ibadan who were Ethnic Oyos and saw themselves as subjects of Alaafin ruled much of Ekiti and Ondo and that was what lead to the Ekiti Parapo Wars of Independence


Benin Supported Ibadan by Supplying them with Arms during the Ekiti Parapo Wars at Kiriji that was why General Ogedengbe attacked the Benin Kingdom in retaliation

Need to research more into this, cos most reports state that oyo never ruled eastern yorubaland

Ibadan was trying to subdue and control ekiti/ondo at some point, that led to the kiriji wars. That’s what I know

Peace

Moorish:

Need to research more into this, cos most reports state that oyo never ruled eastern yorubaland

Ibadan was trying to subdue and control ekiti/ondo at some point, that led to the kiriji wars. That’s what I know

Peace

Nobody disputes the fact that Ibadan ruled over Ekiti / Ondo ask the indigenes

The Ekitiparapo War was a War for Independence from Ibadan

Even the Ekiti Parapo Leader Ogendengbe had served as a Soldier in the Ibadan Army for many years before leading his People to Independence

christistruth01:


The Ibadan who were Ethnic Oyos and saw themselves as subjects of Alaafin ruled much of Ekiti and Ondo and that was what lead to the Ekiti Parapo Wars of Independence


Benin Supported Ibadan by Supplying them with Arms during the Ekiti Parapo Wars at Kiriji that was why General Ogedengbe attacked the Benin Kingdom in retaliation

With due respect,Ibadan were not ethnically tribally ọyọ. Instead all Yorubas encompassing . This is a fact. The strongest masquerade in Ibadan does not belong to Ọyọ. Do your finding to know where he came from.

On your last part of Benin Supporting Ibadan is extremely funny because Benin was too scared to join any group to fight during this time because of depopulation.

The question you need ask yourself are three:

1. When did Portugal who supplied Benin musket begun bilateral trade with Benin ?

2. When did the Portugal relationship with Benin became unfriendly ?

3. When did the bilateral between Portuguese and Benin became terminated ?

Earlier between 1840s-1850s,when some miscreants chiefs in Ondo rebeled oshemawe through the invitation of Bini Oba's supporters ,because of his family friend in which the reigning oshemawe was killed in the rebellion . But ologbenla restored the lineage back on throne.

4. How come Bini became supplier of Arms when the incoming Yorubas warriors were a threat to his kingdom ?

Plainly ,missionaries were the suppliers of Arms to both parties due to different clan's interest. Another supplier of Arms were the Ijebu ode group who controlled the waterways. It due to the blockages that the British with the Yoruba loyalists fought against Ijebu to open the waterways.

Ijebu have great stake in lagos from time immemorial. So, let us know that Bini is overated on this issue. Beside you can learn more about Yoruba princes of Ooni household at ileife who waged war against Bini land as a warning due to their oppression against smaller Yoruba settlement along their line.

Olu317:
With due respect,Ibadan were not ethnically tribally ọyọ. Instead all Yorubas encompassing . This is a fact. The strongest masquerade in Ibadan does not belong to Ọyọ. Do your finding to know where he came from.

On your last part of Benin Supporting Ibadan is extremely funny because Benin was too scared to join any group to fight during this time because of depopulation.

The question you need ask yourself are three:

1. When did Portugal who supplied Benin musket begun bilateral trade with Benin ?

2. When did the Portugal relationship with Benin became unfriendly ?

3. When did the bilateral between Portuguese and Benin became terminated ?

Earlier between 1840s-1850s,when some miscreants chiefs in Ondo rebeled oshemawe through the invitation of Bini Oba's supporters ,because of his family friend in which the reigning oshemawe was killed in the rebellion . But ologbenla restored the lineage back on throne.

4. How come Bini became supplier of Arms when the incoming Yorubas warriors were a threat to his kingdom ?

Plainly ,missionaries were the suppliers of Arms to both parties due to different clan's interest. Another supplier of Arms were the Ijebu ode group who controlled the waterways. It due to the blockages that the British with the Yoruba loyalists fought against Ijebu to open the waterways.

Ijebu have great stake in lagos from time immemorial. So, let us know that Bini is overated on this issue. Beside you can learn more about Yoruba princes of Ooni household at ileife who waged war against Bini land as a warning due to their oppression against smaller Yoruba settlement along their line.

Olu317 you do know that the Olubadan is a Subject King of the Alaafin of Oyo don't you ?

Excuse me Ethnic Oyos know Ibadan are mostly Oyos almost all Oyo State and much of Osun State are Ethnic Oyos

Ibadan was a Massive Oyo Refugee Camp that became a Super Star through Gods Grace and Mercy after the Fulani Jihads invasion of Old Oyo sent

Oyo People fleeing into all directions of the Wind

There are many Yoruba migrants into Ibadan but after chasing out the Egbas and Ife the Oyos ran the show and controlled the Town , Ibadan was originally founded by a very fatherly Ife Man called Lagelu who also had an Oyo Mother, then the Egbas Settled next before the Oyo refugees got there after being welcomed by Lagelu and later chased everyone else away after a misunderstanding ( Yoruba need a lot of Prayers )

After being Chased from Ibadan the Egbas founded Abeokuta and hit the big time on the Coast of Lagos that was when the Ibadan now thought let us kuku takeover all the way to the Sea Coast but the Egbas were like you already chased us out of Ibafan and you are Certainly not going to takeover Abeokuta and Egbaland you Oyos have pushed us to the wall and we are not taking it anymore that was when Egba People like Lisabi came to prominence

Note that when the Oyos took over Ibadan they commandeered and took over the Wives of the Egbas as well so the Egbas had a very big beef against the Oyos of Ibadan that lasted well into the last Century

Go and Check the Kiriji Treaty of 1878 Alaafin signed as overlord of the Ibadans, Ijaye and all Ethnic Oyos

The Masquerade you are talking about came to Ibadan when an Exiled high ranking Ibadan Warlord who in Exile became the defacto Military ruler of the Akoko Area returned back home to Ibadan in his old age with the Masquerade in his entourage it was because of the Military Prowess of Chief Ayorinde that the Fulani failed to penetrate the Akoko Area

Benin Supplied Ibadan Arms during the Ekiti Parapo War because the Egbas of Abeokuta and the Ijebu were also at War with Ibadan

at exactly the same time

Or do you expect the Egbas of Abeokuta and Ijebu to supply Firearms to the Ibadan who are busy fighting them to takeover their
Land and Seacoast


The Ibadan got some supplies from Badagry and Porto Novo Which were under the Alaafin of Oyo but the Egbas kept on attacking the Ibadans route to Badagry and cutting off their supply lines so Ibadan turned to Benin for Supplies also Kiriji the battlefield was almost the same distance to Benin as it was to Badagry but with the Benin route being much safer

There was big money involved in trading with the Ibadan Army and Benin was willing to fill the gap while Ibadan was busy fighting the Egba and Ijebu who were also Ibadans usual Weapon suppliers apart from the Badagry area

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your second paragraph is a lie
A clear lie
And you know that

Yes Voodoo in Haiti is from Vodun of the Fon people in Benin there's nothing to lie about