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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:23pm On Oct 29, 2021
KingAlabi:

I don permanently enter decking with you boss.

Maybe I go find salvation there. cheesy
Living without hope or being "hopeneutral" ain't no salvation cheesy

You won't find salvation there trust me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:24pm On Oct 29, 2021
elrony:
Hopefully the spirit will be upon Sonaldo cool
AMEN.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ray07(m): 3:24pm On Oct 29, 2021
Oasis007:
Solskjaer: "You see Tyson Fury when he gets knocked down, it's remarkable how he gets up: composed, counts 6, 7, 8. We got up too early + tried to sort it. Minds have to be better but we've had to look at different things as well. The communication has to be direct."
The God of Tottenham would not fail us come Saturday. Last last them go remove the feather from the chicken body, and everyone would see it full unclothedness in glory.

Useless Coach na it him be sad

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 3:26pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

What did he do at Dortmund? cheesy

Winning the league? Same thing Ranieri did in Epl? Same thing Jocelyn did last season in France with Lille?

Maybe, just maybe, Ranieri and Jocelyn are better than Zidane because they won the league with less quality squad. cheesy cheesy grin

Zidane might not be a world class manager, but he brought stability in Madrid, he’s the reason Madrid looks competitive in that Laliga now.

Left, came back and won the league, made Ucl semis last season with inexperienced players.

He has even beaten Klop black and blue several times. cheesy

Una go dey reason manager less less because he managed world class players, can Klopp manage that Madrid squad? Can he successfully manage them without issues? Person wey still dey fight with Mane grin grin

Zidane is better than Klopp. Bring any metric you want and I’ll beat you. Zidane is way clear.

By stats, by achievements, by H2H, anyhow wey you wan use check am, he’s clear.

1..He didn't do it once unlike the other managers you called.
2... He not only won the league more than once, he also won the cup
3... He made Dortmund feared in Europe (UCL) and not just in league alone, something Ranieri and Lille's coach didn't do.
4... Liverpool is one of the best team in England and in Europe thanks to klopp. Before klopp, they weren't at this height.

Everyone knows the top2 teams in Spain are barca and Madrid, everyone knows Madrid is a very strong club in Europe (perennial semifinalists). While Zidane did something extraordinary (3peat) and winning the league (2ce), he still met a very good club at the top of their game.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ray07(m): 3:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
handelex:
Harry Maguire asked if Solskjær is still the right man for the club: "Yes of course. Ole has played for this club for many years and he has been the manager for three years. He knows what to expect and I’m sure he can handle the ups and downs. He knows what’s going on in this club." #mulive [tv2]


Awa captain has spoken.
it is finish.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 3:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
I didn't say Zidane is a bad coach or not a great coach, I said klopp is better than him.


That there is the problem, do you believe klopp is a better tactician than Zidane?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 3:30pm On Oct 29, 2021
liveLongNprospa:


That there is the problem, do you believe klopp is a better tactician than Zidane?
With all due respect, A big Yes!!!!
He's proven it at Dortmund wen Bayern were at the top of their game, not only winning their cups but also the league twice. He did at at Liverpool also, winning both the league and champions league.
All these while he did it while the respective clubs where at their lowest ebb in years(not just a year or 2), and he made them a dominant and attacking team that is feared(not a team parking the bus like Simeone). Only someone who's highly tactical can do that

There's a reason why he's one of the top 3 coaches in the world.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 3:41pm On Oct 29, 2021
Where was Madrid when Zizou took over?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 3:48pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:

1..He didn't do it once unlike the other managers you called.
2... He not only won the league more than once, he also won the cup
3... He made Dortmund feared in Europe (UCL) and not just in league alone, something Ranieri and Lille's coach didn't do.
4... Liverpool is one of the best team in England and in Europe thanks to klopp. Before klopp, they weren't at this height.

Everyone knows the top2 teams in Spain are barca and Madrid, everyone knows Madrid is a very strong club in Europe (perennial semifinalists). While Zidane did something extraordinary (3peat) and winning the league (2ce), he still met a very good club at the top of their game.
Alright, let’s talk about achievements, head2head and records.

You in?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 3:53pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Diego Simeone haven't carried CL so there's no comparison.

Zidane is a V.good coach no doubt, but not near klopp. Even his 2nd stint at Madrid have only faded barca (with only messi) and athletico to slug it out with. You can't compare it with klopp Liverpool who have endless money of Man city to drag it with right from the scratch.

When Zidane arrived at R.Madrid, they were a very very top team,
you can't say same from klopp at Dortmund or Liverpool
Same Benitez Madrid Barca were knackin sans Messi? Didn't Klopp need 3 seasons before even dragging for league title

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 3:55pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
With all due respect, A big Yes!!!!
He's proven it at Dortmund wen Bayern were at the top of their game, not only winning their cups but also the league twice. He did at at Liverpool also, winning both the league and champions league.
All these while he did it while the respective clubs where at their lowest ebb in years(not just a year or 2), and he made them a dominant and attacking team that is feared(not a team parking the bus like Simeone). Only someone who's highly tactical can do that

There's a reason why he's one of the top 3 coaches in the world.
Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be corrected.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 3:57pm On Oct 29, 2021
A40:
Where was Madrid when Zizou took over?
Finished 2nd in la liga(2pts shy of winners barca) and was Cl finalist semi finalists the previous season.

Tell me if that's a small club or a club in turmoil or lacking players when he took over?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:01pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Finished 2nd in la liga(2pts shy of winners barca) and was Cl finalist semi finalists the previous season.

Tell me if that's a small club or a club in turmoil or lacking players when he took over?

Madrid finished 2pts shy of which second when Zidane took over?

Both times Zidane took over, our season was horrible.
First with from Benitez then from Solari (I hope that's the correct spelling)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:02pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be corrected.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!

This makes no sense...
Klopp took a Mainz team that basically had no budget and brought them mid table in the Bundlesliga..
Took a Dortmund that hadn't won the Bundlesliga in years and gave her two titles while making world class players..Klopp made Dortmund a reputable name in Europe again..
Liverpool won our last trophy in 2012, he gave us the Champions league, premier league after a 30 year wait and other trophies... He's an overachiever and everybody and their grandfather know Klopp's miles above Zidane....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
With all due respect, A big Yes!!!!
He's proven it at Dortmund wen Bayern were at the top of their game, not only winning their cups but also the league twice. He did at at Liverpool also, winning both the league and champions league.
All these while he did it while the respective clubs where at their lowest ebb in years(not just a year or 2), and he made them a dominant and attacking team that is feared(not a team parking the bus like Simeone). Only someone who's highly tactical can do that

There's a reason why he's one of the top 3 coaches in the world.

How was Bayern top of their game then when Klopp won? The time Bayern got on top of their game in the treble season,, he finished 25points behind Bayern



Has Klopp shown he can do it at a high pressure environment like Madrid or do you think Madrid will allow him stay 3 seasons without a trophy?

Klopp is a great coach but he has never shown that he can win in a high pressure environment and ego filled dressing room like Zidane did

Klopp prefers projects without pressure where they will give him time. If Klopp leaves Liverpool next stop might be AC Milan. A club without much expectations and will give him time

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 4:04pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Finished 2nd in la liga(2pts shy of winners barca) and was Cl finalist semi finalists the previous season.

Tell me if that's a small club or a club in turmoil or lacking players when he took over?
There were definitely in turmoil else they wouldn't have sacked his predecessor midseason

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:05pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
With all due respect, A big Yes!!!!
He's proven it at Dortmund wen Bayern were at the top of their game, not only winning their cups but also the league twice. He did at at Liverpool also, winning both the league and champions league.
All these while he did it while the respective clubs where at their lowest ebb in years(not just a year or 2), and he made them a dominant and attacking team that is feared(not a team parking the bus like Simeone). Only someone who's highly tactical can do that

There's a reason why he's one of the top 3 coaches in the world.

So how come nobody was able to win when Zidane left the team. How is it possible that Zidane gave us our 2nd greatest defensive record in la liga when he came back.
That Zidane took over mid season and won the UCL and took us to 1 or 2pts behind league leaders and then do the double next season was nothing short of genius.
You can't say it's because of Ronaldo because the goat has always been the goat for other managers before Zidane.
I will ask you a simple question, how many of our matches did you watch last season?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:07pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be corrected.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!

Which Madrid pressure, he has made and managed stars...Who told you he's fighting with Mane, na so una the carry unverifiable news everyday..
Winning the Bundlesliga with Dortmund in a Bayern dominated decade twice is greater than winning the La liga...Madrid is a traditional La Liga power house, they have the money, they can't stay away for long from that title. Winning it is a formality just like Bayern winning the Bundlesliga is...
On to the Champions league, I'm pretty sure before the retire from active management, he will have more than Zidane...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:09pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:

1..He didn't do it once unlike the other managers you called.
2... He not only won the league more than once, he also won the cup
3... He made Dortmund feared in Europe (UCL) and not just in league alone, something Ranieri and Lille's coach didn't do.
4... Liverpool is one of the best team in England and in Europe thanks to klopp. Before klopp, they weren't at this height.

Everyone knows the top2 teams in Spain are barca and Madrid, everyone knows Madrid is a very strong club in Europe (perennial semifinalists). While Zidane did something extraordinary (3peat) and winning the league (2ce), he still met a very good club at the top of their game.
Do you know how long it took klopp to be successful at Liverpool?
The Madrid job is a succeed or die position.
How many managers know how to manage a group of superstars? How many managers do you know can get Ronaldo to sit out games in the league consistently?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 4:09pm On Oct 29, 2021
I actually admire Klopp's style and man management but there's a reason he will always avoid the big clubs with high expectations like a plague
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:10pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


How was Bayern top of their game then when Klopp won? The time Bayern got on top of their game in the treble season,, he finished 25points behind Bayern



Has Klopp shown he can do it at a high pressure environment like Madrid or do you think Madrid will allow him stay 3 seasons without a trophy?

Klopp is a great coach but he has never shown that he can win in a high pressure environment and ego filled dressing room like Zidane did

Klopp prefers projects without pressure where they will give him time. If Klopp leaves Liverpool next stop might be AC Milan. A club without much expectations and will give him time


If Klopp joins Madrid today, he's winning that La liga with a decent point margin....If Zidane joined Liverpool today, he wouldn't be able to compete with Pep's City...
Players respect coaches who have balls, Klopp has balls and any dressing room he walks into will listen...
B4 Zidane, when did Madrid last win a trophy?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:10pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Which Madrid pressure, he has made and managed stars...Who told you he's fighting with Mane, na so una the carry unverifiable news everyday..
Winning the Bundlesliga with Dortmund in a Bayern dominated decade twice is greater than winning the La liga...Madrid is a traditional La Liga power house, they have the money, they can't stay away for long from that title. Winning it is a formality just like Bayern winning the Bundlesliga is...
On to the Champions league, I'm pretty sure before the retire from active management, he will have more than Zidane...

That Bayern is not the same as the Bayern of now

Bayern before 2012 was weak.
That was why Wolfsburg Stuttgart were able to win the league

When Bayern became strong from 2013 Klopp didn't smell the league again till he left leaving Dortmund midtable
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:12pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Which Madrid pressure, he has made and managed stars...Who told you he's fighting with Mane, na so una the carry unverifiable news everyday..
Winning the Bundlesliga with Dortmund in a Bayern dominated decade twice is greater than winning the La liga...Madrid is a traditional La Liga power house, they have the money, they can't stay away for long from that title. Winning it is a formality just like Bayern winning the Bundlesliga is...
On to the Champions league, I'm pretty sure before the retire from active management, he will have more than Zidane...
Before Zidane the last time we won LA liga was 2012. And he won it twice. The second time getting to the semis without the goat.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:12pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


If Klopp joins Madrid today, he's winning that La liga with a decent point margin....If Zidane joined Liverpool today, he wouldn't be able to compete with Pep's City...
Players respect coaches who have balls, Klopp has balls and any dressing room he walks into will listen...
B4 Zidane, when did Madrid last win a trophy?

Let him join Madrid and win first. You think Madrid dressing room na Liverpool or Dortmund?

Mourinhos balls where did it land him in Madrid and Man utd dressing room? Na only teams that are not used to success like Porto, Chelsea and Inter his tactics worked at

Go to Madrid and be telling Ronaldo or Kroos to be gegenpressing

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:13pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be correcal.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!
1... Dortmund won their last trophy in 2001/2002. So it took them 10yrs in the wilderness and a different breed of players before they could win it again with klopp and you want to sweep that under the carpet?? It's like arsenal winning the league next season and then their fans claim it's normal cos Wenger last won it 2004. Lol

2... How many finals did he bottle
1 carabao cup in his debut season
1 Europa in his first full season
1 Cl final in his 2nd season

While you see bottling, I'm seeing progress. Little wonder he won the league and Cl after his 2nd full season.

You'll call his Dortmund Cl loss as another bottling, but you fail to talk how he waya Bayern 6-1 in the finals in their German fa cup alongside winning the league. This una "klopp is failure finalist" won't fly


3... Which coach no dey get issue with star players sometimes? Is it having issues with players OR resolving the issues after that is the koko?
Klopp and Mane have resolved their issues, so why are you still saying they're having issues?

moreover, let's close our eyes to the fact that Zidane and bale no get issues.

Lastly, I'm not talking about grassroot here. Pep is one of the best coach in world football same as klopp. Zidane no be their mate. Make zidane go drag with tuchel

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:14pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


That Bayern is not the same as the Bayern of now

Bayern before 2012 was weak.
That was why Wolfsburg Stuttgart were able to win the league

When Bayern became strong from 2013 Klopp didn't smell the league again till he left leaving Dortmund midtable

Bayern had Kroos, Riberry, Robben, Muller..
These formur players were there when he won the league...
Saying you weren't strong when Klopp won the Bundlesliga is a myth....
Quick question, before Klopp won the Bundlesliga, when last did Bayern win it?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:16pm On Oct 29, 2021
liveLongNprospa:

Before Zidane the last time we won LA liga was 2012. And he won it twice. The second time getting to the semis without the goat.

2)Who were his main competitors in La liga?

2) Before Klopp, when last did Liverpool win the league and who were our competitors?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:18pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


Let him join Madrid and win first. You think Madrid dressing room na Liverpool or Dortmund?

Mourinhos balls where did it land him in Madrid and Man utd dressing room? Na only teams that are not used to success like Porto, Chelsea and Inter his tactics worked at

Go to Madrid and be telling Ronaldo or Kroos to be gegenpressing

Mourinho was successful in Madrid and to an extent, was successful in Man United considering the circumstances...

Why won't Kroos and Ronaldo gegenpress, if the don't,other people will...The end game is trophies...
Sir Alex called Klopp to come take over United for a reason...

Klopp is a certified star maker player wise and he has the trophies to back uo...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Bayern had Kroos, Riberry, Robben, Muller..
These formur players were there when he won the league...
Saying you weren't strong when Klopp won the Bundlesliga is a myth....
Quick question, before Klopp won the Bundlesliga, when last did Bayern win it?

Klopp did the same thing Wolfsburg and Stuttgart did. They caught Bayern at a period of weakness and won the league

By 2013, Klopp was finishing 25points behind Bayern
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:20pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


This makes no sense...
Klopp took a Mainz team that basically had no budget and brought them mid table in the Bundlesliga..
Took a Dortmund that hadn't won the Bundlesliga in years and gave her two titles while making world class players..Klopp made Dortmund a reputable name in Europe again..
Liverpool won our last trophy in 2012, he gave us the Champions league, premier league after a 30 year wait and other trophies... He's an overachiever and everybody and their grandfather know Klopp's miles above Zidane....
Klopp relegated Mainz.

Whatever you feel Klopp did for Dortmund, Zidane did it thrice/twice for Madrid. cheesy

Klopp didn’t succeed immediately with Liverpool, it took him close to 3 years while getting embarrassed and humiliated by Sevilla in Europa finals, same can’t be said of Zidane who made Madrid ruthless in Europe.

Ffs Zidane left Madrid, they struggled, he came back and won Laliga. grin grin

Don’t you get the point?

This Zidane Fvckin humiliated Klopp back to back to back, Klopp Na small boy to Zidane when it comes to achievements, H2H and trophies.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:20pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Mourinho was successful in Madrid and to an extent, was successful in Man United considering the circumstances...

Why won't Kroos and Ronaldo gegenpress, if the don't,other people will...The end game is trophies...
Sir Alex called Klopp to come take over United for a reason...

Klopp is a certified star maker player wise and he has the trophies to back uo...

Why did Klopp decline Ferguson then? Because he knew they don't have 3yrs to wait for trophies like Liverpool and Dortmund.

And that one wants to manage Madrid?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:22pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Which Madrid pressure, he has made and managed stars...Who told you he's fighting with Mane, na so una the carry unverifiable news everyday..
Winning the Bundlesliga with Dortmund in a Bayern dominated decade twice is greater than winning the La liga... Madrid is a traditional La Liga power house, they have the money, they can't stay away for long from that title. Winning it is a formality just like Bayern winning the Bundlesliga is...
On to the Champions league, I'm pretty sure before the retire from active management, he will have more than Zidane...
Winning Ucl 3 straight is greater than anything Klopp has done in his managing career.

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