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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 10:48am On Oct 30, 2021 |
EricBraven:, He thought was making sense 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 10:58am On Oct 30, 2021 |
BlackBaron:Exactly. The fv101, fv103 and fv107 are already good platforms if utilized appropriately and properly. For people clamouring for IFVs, i tell you what, those IFVs ain't gonna win you this war in no time. That's a misperception of things on ground. We got a whole lotta Vickers mk. 3 MBTs and T 55s prior to the purchase of T 72m1 and VT4 tanks. Those older MBTs would've ended this war quickly if they were utilized appropriately. We all saw what Late. Lt-Col Abu Ali did with the 272 tank battalion's T 72s. It takes determination and commitment to the cause, to win a war of attrition. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:02am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Honestly, whoever suggested the Army to buy VT 4 tanks, did the right thing. The VT4 is the perfect MBT for the Nigerian army. Unless we want, a k2 panther or leopard 2 tanks, which I don't think we can get. The VT4 MBT should be purchased in more quantities, upgraded and start a manufacturing plant here in Nigeria. We need to leverage on our relationship with Norinco. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:14am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Nigeria lacks money to properly fund our military. It costs billions of dollars to procure equipment buy spares and train soldiers. Nigerian lacks money and also lacks monetary discipline. 7 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:16am On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1: Nigeria loses billions of dollars yearly. Nigerian politicians loot billions of dollars yearly, but we make it look like there isn't money available at all, but there is alotta money to be looted. Very bad. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 11:17am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11:If I ask you how there's money in Nigeria now you'd point to the polithieving class stealing scarce resources Stormtrooper11:Ah I said it before I got to this page 6 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:19am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: IFVs are a far more effective system than a Tank in COIN operations. Modern IFVs carry a 30mm, ATGM and still transports 9 fully kitted troops. They are faster than a Tank, easily maintainable than a Tank. They also cover larger areas, and can be used for reconnaissance. War is not won by determination, but by employing the right strategies, tactics with the right mix of equipment. A very good and recent example is the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia. There is no substitute for employing the right mix of equipment. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:23am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Nigerian politicians do not loot billions of dollars yearly. This is the sort of ignorant comment that fuels insecurity in Nigeria. What is the national budget of Nigeria? How much goes to capital projects and recurrent expenditure. 10 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:24am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Odunayaw: There is money in Nigeria. We got resources, we got the ability to make the money and build the economy. There is no way that a country with 200 million people, produces a large amount of oil, which is a major resource, produces alotta agricultural products be poor. Nigeria is not poor. Nigeria is extremely mismanaged. We might be broke in some instances, cause having economic crisis once in a while is usual in economies around the world is not unusual, but Nigeria ain't poor, Nigerians are poor because we are mismanaged and extremely corrupt. I hope you understand what I mean. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:32am On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1:Verdammt. It's not about the budget. Look, imagine you're a school club president, let's say a high school science club president . You're given 20k to manage your club in a term. You mismanaged the money, you got bright students with potentials that can help improve the club, but you don't even look inward. You mismanaged club taxes. At the end of the term, after laundering all your finances, you go about borrowing to fund next term budget. You don't know who to hold accountable, your club members don't even know what last term money was used for because of lack of transparency. No IGR Mismanagement Corruption Unaccountable individuals Lack of transparency But you have resources, you have the money flowing around with no control. You mismanaged taxes. That's what I meant. Nigeria ain't poor. 7 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 11:34am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11:Almost sounds like Monday motivation speech. "Nigeria lacks money and also lacks monetary discipline. - Kabe1, 2021 That's the reality 7 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:35am On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1: The problem is, anytime we talk about Nigeria’s problems, we tend to overlook the roots. The feds are tryna act like they can fix everything which is impossible. Do you have any idea how much goes around unaccounted for at the LGAs At the road unions Local taxes?? Markets?? Wallahi, there is money in Nigeria. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:37am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Odunayaw: I understand his perspective. I understand what he is saying, but Nigeria ain't poor. I'll accept if he says Nigerians are poor, but Nigeria as a country is not poor. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 11:38am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11:And how much is that? Money is different from MONEY 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:39am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Odunayaw: Nigerian proverb, "kobo, kobo na money". I don't know how much is it, but I know it's alot to make a major difference in the life of our citizens. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:45am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Do you know that Norway, a country of 5 million people, a country that is geographically smaller than Nigeria produces more crude oil than Nigeria? You really need to look at things in the context you're comparing. Nigeria is a middle, lower income country with a population of over 200 million people. 8 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 11:48am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Five STAR comment. Very good points. Thank you 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:52am On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1: Negative. The platforms in a COIN context are on par because the IFV gets to transport troops, which is an advantage to tanks. Mind you the merkava mk. 4 can carry troops too, so let's not generalise this tank stuff. Let's be only on the Nigerian context. Nigerian tanks carry 125mm weaponry, 12.7mm, 7.62 mm, 9k119 refleks ATGMs. Yeah, they are faster than tanks but not all. Vt4 tanks go for 70km/hr and cover 500 km distance without external fuel. They are both good for recon considering the thermal sights on the platform. Determination is key. When I said determination, i covered everything. Determination translates to will, will translates to been dedicated to employ the right services and equipments to achieve your goals. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:53am On Oct 30, 2021 |
RiceProducers: I appreciate, Sir. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:56am On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1: Nigeria's greatest resource ain't oil, ain't gold, ain't Iron ore neither cocoa nor cassava and rice. Our greatest resource is our people. That population alone, gives us the capability to eclipse anyone. We can leverage on our population and it will become a great capability or we let it become our liability. Education is key to our development and success. I understand where you are coming from. Yes, true but it's not what it supposed to be. Alot of money is unaccounted for. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:02pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: We are talking about financial resources available to procure military equipment. Yet you're giving me inspirational quotes. Which country on earth wey no get people? 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 12:06pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
kabe1:this got me laughing hard. Nigeria have the financial resources to purchase quality military equipment. The people at the top understands the situation better, they know what to do. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:14pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: AFN fuel the propaganda of dead media houses like Sahara, an incident like that would've attracted a statement from DHQ with blurred images, that way, people will have a reference point to counter Sahara. The down side of the armed forces media inefficiency is that it makes them appear weak at the same time embolden non-state actors otherwise would be scared to dare, AFN isn't helping themselves so you can't blame Vultures like Sahara. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:40pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Like I told you earlier, no amount of determination would win you are war. Wars are won through strategy, tactics and the right equipment. Tanks have a very low rate of fire when compared to IFVs. Tanks require Infantry protection. Tank ammunitions are expensive when compared to IFVs Tank maintenance is not flexible like an IFV. Tanks are generally more expensive to deploy. Tanks are slower, consume more diesel and cannot cover the distance an IFV would cover. Tanks require auxiliary vehicles to deploy them to the front lines. Tanks are not recon vehicles as they don't have the profile or speed or maneuverability to perform reconnaissance missions. Tanks cost 4 times the IFV. 6 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:41pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Stick to what you know, Humvees come in variants, all the variants deployed to the frontline are amoured while those running logistics in secured areas are not. US will not be stup!d to use Hilux or any soft skin to dominate a 12.7mm threat environment, never! perhaps in the 50's not anymore. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:44pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: Abagana has not been repeated, in this NE war! |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DubaiLandLord3: 12:59pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Enter his gateway squirting hallelujah |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 1:10pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: That corrupt politicians are stealing scarce resources doesn't mean you have enough resources to go round. $1b is insanely huge when stolen by a politician, conversely, if you inject the same $1b to carter for Nigeria's population & landmass, it cant complete 800kms of federal roads. Algeria with only AQIM as a major threat spent $10b annualy on their military consistently for 10yrs that earned them the number 2 spot in Africa. Nigeria has never disbursed $10b for capital expenditure a year let alone use it to service the military alone, note the word "disbursed" not "Budget", I hope you understand the difference. The gas infrastructure ongoing in Nigeria, Akk project valued at $2.3b was borrowed, Bodo bridge (Longest in Africa) at N120b , borrowed by half, Lagos-Ibadan, borrowed, Nigeria cannot afford a $10b Capital expenditure in a fiscal year today, thats a fact!! Therefore, Nigeria is a poor country where corrupt politicians steal from the meagre inflow its this reason Nigeria earned a spot on the world bank IDA program as a poor country. 10 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 1:29pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
jpphilips: Where in my entire write up did I mention "hilux or soft skins"? Or could you point to anywhere I insinuated hilux and other soft skins are okay? The APC the whole discussion is about can comfortably take hits from 12.7 mm 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 1:49pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Even US wasn't moving around with only IFVs in Afghanistan. Despite many r as nkls getting damaged in Iraq, humvees were still being deployed. Who said this and why? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 2:13pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
jpphilips: Is it not clear to you that the intent was to show that only IFVs can't be deployed like he wants. Was it only IFVs and soft skins US was moving around with in Afghanistan? Why then did you interpret it to me supporting the use of IFVs? Towards the end of the writeup I clearly stated that the Emiratis and Saudis were still using APCs in Yemen. See ehn, rest. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 3:37pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Early last week I have gave Intel about the service cheif visiting brono this week . Yesterday. The CDS,CDI,CNS,CAS Cheif army staff was in brono. They met all the battlefield commander and analysis what is necessary. The military Will move there men to deep island in lake Chad. The next offensive will reach Niger republic it is going to be very hot. More ground equipment are coming from China,. S.f unit are already go to go. The CDI gave necessary Intel about iswap and bh. More DOSF. will be deployed before end of next month. Attack helicopter will be base in some strategic location aprt from brono. More equipment are coming the minister of defence and Cheif defence staff assures battlefield commander and solider.iswap go see fire 12 Likes |
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