anonymous1759:



Stop spewing thrash . Who scored the winning goal for Portugal at the Euros? Two out of four champions league cup Ronaldo won at Madrid who were the key players on the big occasion?

First at Euros it was Eder, UCL it was Di Maria, Ramos and Bale. Cr7 wasn’t exceptional. on that day but took the glory.

Messi has scored winning goals in the UCL and you attribute everything to Xavi and iniesta because you hate Messi but fail to acknowledge Ronald’s team mate that help him like he’s a super man.
Messi has had 3 goals In the UCL in 3 games. Of which you people know is more harder than The league but your stupidity and hatred don’t make you see that .
Messi can score hatrick at any given time and bounce Back. FYI Messi has excelled In Argentina from the beginning to the end without xavi and iniesta.
You guys are jealous Messi has two throphy is bag for PSG already wether you like it or not.
And it’ll be written In his CV that he achieved with more than one club which you guys has been using It to rob him.
Imagine criticizing someone who just played 5 games of which more than 25 games is still remaining does that make sense to you ? If you criticize him In the league you should praise him in the UCL for having a 100% record.

Ok. Let me use your analogy. Who scored the winner for Argentina in the final of copa, it was di Maria, same man that won the Olympics for Argentina . The last time messi won the Champions league, he failed to score in the final. It was suarez, Neymar and iniesta, in 2011 the ref helped barca against Chelsea and iniesta scored that last minute goal . In 2006 messi wasn't involved in any crucial game . Messi only scored against Bolivia and Ecuador when they had comfortable leads , he didn't score in the semifinals or final . And how has messi excelled in Argentina? Half of his goals are from friendlies. He has never scored a top rated nation in any tournament he has ever played in his career. He just won his first trophy with Argentina after 13 attempts . The same way you insulted Ronaldo for joining juventus that guaranteed him the Italian league is what u are celebrating with the same league guarantee messi has with pSG . You are also celebrating his tap in and penalty, the same type of goals you shamed Ronaldo for scoring. Dont you guys have shame for such hypocrisy??

offiahvictor:

cry cry baby...CR7 is Messi's Father,any day any season any league.

Chochovini:
. You lied. Ronaldo scored a clean goal but then, one useless thing called VAR disqualified it and claimed it was offside. In messi‘s case, not even a shot on target from him let alone an offside goal and you are comparing.
I am a Chelsea fan mind you.

Xclusivedaniel6:


Ode, using one game to judge a whole league failure

Donpaper:
You are talking nonsense. Didn't he score a goal that was disqualified? Didn't Liverpool Struggled with Brighton? Didn't he score against Totentham or Totentham wa kere ninu aye ni?

Many posters here need passing IELTS before coming here to post

cr7lomo:


A penalty is a penalty, whether stylish or plainly . Out out messis last 8 goals in the champions league, 5 are penalties. I thought u messi fans always degraded Ronaldo for scoring penalties and also labeled his goals tap ins . This is why you all should never degrade a hard worker because that could come back to hunt you . Messi fans were the first set of fans to troll a player for some of the type of goals he scores , never has it happened in football. You messi fans started the insults because he was scoring lots of goals . Ronaldo fans never had an issue with messi , this hatred between both fans started when Ronaldo win the Euros. Messi fans kept on trolling him cause he had won something with country and when he matched the balon d'or 5.5 , you messi fans went gaga . I see no reason why fans should hate a player for executing his job . You messi fans celebrated modric winning the balon d'or, when clearly it was a pure nonsense. The media have always found a way to degrade Ronaldo. If Ronaldo was the one struggling to score in the EPL with No goals or Assists, u messi fans and the media will troll shege comot im body. Even when its glaring that the defense and the coaches tactics were the problems. You messu fans tried to pin Ronaldo as the problem and tried to exonerate solsjkaer as y'all claimed man united finished 2nd last season , but y'all didnt factor that Liverpool and Chelsea struggled last season Manchester had loads of penalties that favoured them. Real fans said solsjkaer should be sacked since last season and even said if they signed Ronaldo, Messi and Lewandowski, Manchester will still struggle. Now PSG that poch took to Champions league semi final and lost the league title to lille by one point in ligue 1 mainly due to mbappe missing 11 games due to injuries is now being blamed for messi not performing. Y'all are even calling for his sack despite topping his champions league group that also has man City and also topping ligue 1 with 6 points difference just cause messi is struggling to find his feet . PSG has only scored a penalty as goal in the 330 minutes messi has been on the pitch in ligue 1 and loads of goals when he isn't on the pitch and u blame the coach? Why do you messi fans love bringing other professionals down just to try to lift messi . You messi fans have brought down Ronaldo, Mbappe, Higuain, Lewandowski, suarez , griezmann , the Argentine national team, dembele past coaches and now poch ,when it does not go his way just to lift him up.why are u people like this

How is this epistle relevant to my initial comment you quoted? You said Messi has not performed up to expectations in the UCL and I said that's not true since he scored 3 goals in 3 games (2 open play goals and one penalty). I also gave credit to Mbappe in my comment so I don't get how Mbappe is being pulled down for Messi here unless you are just downloading what's been in your mind from elsewhere regardless of the comment you are quoting which is not a very intelligent way of response.

Look for those who are pulling down Mbappe & Lewandowski for the GOAT and respond appropriately.

To the op who created this trend u have successfully caused a world war 3

cr7lomo:


Sack a coach that is topping his champions league group with man city 2nd and leading ligue 1 with 6 points should be sacked because messi is not performing. How do you messi fans think ??

So you think everyone that speak against the coach is a Messi fan?

You're a big zombie, even before he became the coach, PSG have been topping and winning their league so that's not new, we know that league is a farmer league, we have seen how PSG have been struggling to even win home matches, with the kind of squad at his disposal I expect much and not the nonsense they have been playing lately.

blamingthedevil:
Relax , he will still be the top scorer in the league.... after all he is scoring in the champions league

Story for the gods. Bookmark this, Messi will not get 20 league one goals this season

Amotolongbo:
Many posters here need passing IELTS before coming here to post

English teacher,we see you.

obembet:


Messi in Barcelona vs Messi in PSG

You no well o

Amotolongbo:
For how long shall one continue to wait for the “Ashawo” who is always doing daily menstruation?

Biz don wreck be that na

Mogajunior:

All hail the King. He will rise again..

But he's dead now right?

We await his resurrection

obembet:


I don't know why Messi's worshippers can't accept the fact that he's not good as before. He's declining because of new environment n age. But rather,they find all kinds of lyme excuses to make him look better.Messi is not a striker he's a play maker blah blah blah... Is play maker a new Position in the field that has been created by his fans,cuz all I know is there are four positions which are goalkeepers, defenders (center back n fall back), Midfielders (defensive n offensive), Fawarder (strikers n winkers). For all I know n all sensible people,Messi is n has always been a Fawarder by profession. He either play as a winger or striker, if he drops into the midfield it's because he want to, but that's not his position. He has never been classified as Midfielders on any lineup that Fifa post or even by his managers, his main objective on the team is to score, people should play for him to score n he's not seeing that on PSG like Barca cuz there are so many superstars so he sometimes drops into the midfield n come back up as a compliment. Messi will never be the same player that was on Barca. He spent his entire life there n wasn't expecting to play for no other team than Barca. He was a god in Spain, but in Paris Mbappe and Newmar rules. That just the plain and bitter truth.

Lalasticlala

Now you have shown us that you are really a biased person

Amotolongbo:
Many posters here need passing IELTS before coming here to post

and you that passed, what was your overall band score?

uncleck:
I'm a Messi fan. I will continue to be patient with him till he fully adjusts to the new environment. Ashawo that has been in the business for years is not same as ashawo that just join the business.

Baba cut the crab men
Cr7 didn't need time to adjust in Spain
He didn't need time to adjust in Italy also
Baba ur messi is not good

Amotolongbo:
For how long shall one continue to wait for the “Ashawo” who is always doing daily menstruation?

Hahaha, you no well.

Classickj:

Baba cut the crab men
Cr7 didn't need time to adjust in Spain
He didn't need time to adjust in Italy also
Baba ur messi is not good

Old time ashawo (CR). New ahawo (LM)

cr7lomo:


Ok. Let me use your analogy. Who scored the winner for Argentina in the final of copa, it was di Maria, same man that won the Olympics for Argentina . The last time messi won the Champions league, he failed to score in the final. It was suarez, Neymar and iniesta, in 2011 the ref helped barca against Chelsea and iniesta scored that last minute goal . In 2006 messi wasn't involved in any crucial game . Messi only scored against Bolivia and Ecuador when they had comfortable leads , he didn't score in the semifinals or final . And how has messi excelled in Argentina? Half of his goals are from friendlies. He has never scored a top rated nation in any tournament he has ever played in his career. He just won his first trophy with Argentina after 13 attempts . The same way you insulted Ronaldo for joining juventus that guaranteed him the Italian league is what u are celebrating with the same league guarantee messi has with pSG . You are also celebrating his tap in and penalty, the same type of goals you shamed Ronaldo for scoring. Dont you guys have shame for such hypocrisy??

How can you spew lie in a public forum like this?
Messi scored the first goal in 2009 against Man U In 2011 scored the second goal against same Man U to put Barca on the lead before villa made it 3.
You've nothing to say Mr man Messi has the highest number of elclasico goals . Is Madrid 13th time champions a mediocre team?
Messi played nothing in copa America but he had the highest assist , goals and the best player in the tournament.
You've absolutely nothing to say Ronaldo fans are delusional. The goal Messi scored against Mancity your champions Issa Tapping. Joker. When last did Ronaldo scored a goal outside of the BoX ?

Donpaper:
and you that passed, what was your overall band score?

I scored 3.5.

anonymous1759:


How can you spew lie in a public forum like this?
Messi scored the first goal in 2009 against Man U In 2011 scored the second goal against same Man U to put Barca on the lead before villa made it 3.
You've nothing to say Mr man Messi has the highest number of elclasico goals . Is Madrid 13th time champions a mediocre team?
Messi played nothing in copa America but he had the highest assist , goals and the best player in the tournament.
You've absolutely nothing to say Ronaldo fans are delusional. The goal Messi scored against Mancity your champions Issa Tapping. Joker. When last did Ronaldo scored a goal outside of the BoX ?

I never mentioned 2009 or 2011. Messi has the highest goal in elclassico cos no forward has played as much el classicos as messi . Ronaldo has a better goal ratio than Messi in el classico . Imagine a player scoring lots of goals against mediocre teams but disappears against big teams and u wanna celebrate top score cos he scored in mediocre games. Imagine a striker than scores a single goal each against 4 of the top 5 rated teams in football but looses the top scorer to another striker than scored 6 goals against 2 teams out if the 3 teams rated outside the top 50 . Crap

cr7lomo:


I never mentioned 2009 or 2011. Messi has the highest goal in elclassico cos no forward has played as much el classicos as messi . Ronaldo has a better goal ratio than Messi in el classico . Imagine a player scoring lots of goals against mediocre teams but disappears against big teams and u wanna celebrate top score cos he scored in mediocre games. Imagine a striker than scores a single goal each against 4 of the top 5 rated teams in football but looses the top scorer to another striker than scored 6 goals against 2 teams out if the 3 teams rated outside the top 50 . Crap

Funny boi . You're talking about statistics now and ratio. But Messi has better goal ratio statically than Ronaldo .

Ronald is two seasons ahead of Messi but he's not up to 25 goals he's using to lead Messi. When Barca fans bring up that you trash it out but right now you're bring stats because I'm giving you fact.
Will you accept it that Messi is a better goal scorer than your Ronaldo statistically -[

anonymous1759:


Funny boi . You're talking about statistics now and ratio. But Messi has better goal ratio statically than Ronaldo .

Ronald is two seasons ahead of Messi but he's not up to 25 goals he's using to lead Messi. When Barca fans bring up that you trash it out but right now you're bring stats because I'm giving you fact.
Will you accept it that Messi is a better goal scorer than your Ronaldo statistically -[

Its certain you don't even know how statistics works. Statistics can only be confirmed when the process is finished. They are both done with el classico, then u can go and check statistics. You can't use statistics talking about 2 years ahead cos its still on. What of if Messi retires b4 Ronaldo and Ronaldo keeps on scoring ?

Amotolongbo:
I scored 3.5.

lol. No wonder. It showed you never wrote before and if that's the your real score, I pity for you. Most people you quoted have written Ielts before with at least band 7 and above. So be careful how you criticize.

cr7lomo:


Its certain you don't even know how statistics works. Statistics can only be confirmed when the process is finished. They are both done with el classico, then u can go and check statistics. You can't use statistics talking about 2 years ahead cos its still on. What of if Messi retires b4 Ronaldo and Ronaldo keeps on scoring ?

You're funny o. Statistically at present Messi is better than Ronaldo. He clocked 700 goals with lesser games , more trophies combined and more 6 world best to 5 with two years of active football ahead .

cr7lomo:


Its certain you don't even know how statistics works. Statistics can only be confirmed when the process is finished. They are both done with el classico, then u can go and check statistics. You can't use statistics talking about 2 years ahead cos its still on. What of if Messi retires b4 Ronaldo and Ronaldo keeps on scoring ?

If you like change name and monikers a million times

You still don't have sense and it's easy to decipher it's you

Always arguing and talking shit about Messi

Get a life dude
You obsessed with Messi but that won't change a thing

7th d'or loading

cr7lomo:
U knew he would flop as his performance in la liga wasn't replicated in the champions league. If u wanna know a person that will do well in different leagues, he will be consistent in the champions league and messi hasn't in the champions league.

learn to be constructive with your criticism. how can you say a player with 6 UCL top scorer award isn't consistent?

Messi became recognised due to the effect of the Spanish national team between 2008 to 2012, thats when he lit football and won 4 straight balon d'or and thats when the Spanish national team won 2 European cups and the world cup, while he and the Argentine national team were struggling at the same period.

its funny how you attribute Messi's success to Xavi and Iniesta but give no credit to Modric, Kroos, Bale and Benzema for their contribution to Ronaldo. You want us to believe Ronaldo is not dependent on anyone but you guys do not hesitate to blame his Juve teammates for not doing enough when they lost to Ajax, lyon and porto. isn't that hypocrisy??

The moment the Spanish national team started to decline, Messi and barca started to decline in the champions league. Iniesta, xavi , busquet, puyol , pique , villa were in their prime with national team and club. They added suarez and Neymar and with Dani Alves, they managed to get one more . Villa , puyol retired , xavi and iniesta grew old and retired , dani Alves left and messi then relied on the Spanish league to perform , but struggled in the champions league. Joining PSG just exposed him .

Talent win games while Team work wins titles......By your logic, Ronaldo should have won juventus the UCL. After he left Modric, Kroos, Benzema and Bale, has he crossed the Quarter finals?? has he even won UCL top scorer without them?? NO! but the Messi you keep blaming was UCL top scorer and European golden Boot winner in 2019 without Xavi, Iniesta and Alves.

The reason why I always maintained that Ronaldo was better was because his Manchester United days, and then even going better with real madrid and made Portugal a world class team with average players and even winning the Euros with them .

Benzema, Bale, Modric, Marcelo, Alonsi, Dimaria, Kroos are all world class players so what are you saying?? Portugal was never a mediocre team. Portugal was Euro2004 finalist, 2006 World Cup Semi finalist and Euro 2012 Semi finalist........if you tag a team that had Quaresma, Moutinho, Pepe, Cavalho, Coentrao, Nani, Bosingwa, Renato Sanchez, & Andre Gomez average, what do we call the Greek squad that won Euro2004?

I just don't understand how a right thinking person will say messi is better . Records and facts show that Ronaldo is better , but messi fans wanna use a sentimental award to claim that Messi is the greatest while the records are showing that Ronaldo is the better one . I just don't get it. How a player uses his attributes to win games should determine who is better or best. A player that uses his positioning attributes to win games should be better that the one thats a good dribbler, but don't win much games with that attribute.

Records and facts shows Messi has more Trophies, Golden Boots and Overall Best Player Award............so what records and facts shows Ronaldo is better??

kindly shows us one Best Player Award Ronaldo has won for outstanding display in an int'l tournamant

What were you expecting from Ronaldo lapdogs?

see as they full this thread dey masturbate but when we decide to pay them back in their own coin, they go say media hate Ronaldo.

Donpaper:
lol. No wonder. It showed you never wrote before and if that's the your real score, I pity for you. Most people you quoted have written Ielts before with at least band 7 and above. So be careful how you criticize.

You need passing IELTS before posting here. Seriously.

Can I just see your understanding of the post (my first post) you quoted summarised in your own words?

Amotolongbo:
Many posters here need passing IELTS before coming here to post

. What exactly do you mean by that?

OJEEMAH:
learn to be constructive with your criticism. how can you say a player with 6 UCL top scorer award isn't consistent? its funny how you attribute Messi's success to Xavi and Iniesta but give no credit to Modric, Kroos, Bale and Benzema for their contribution to Ronaldo. You want us to believe Ronaldo is not dependent on anyone but you guys do not hesitate to blame his Juve teammates for not doing enough when they lost to Ajax, lyon and porto. isn't that hypocrisy?? Talent win games while Team work wins titles......By your logic, Ronaldo should have won juventus the UCL. After he left Modric, Kroos, Benzema and Bale, has he crossed the Quarter finals?? has he even won UCL top scorer without them?? NO! but the Messi you keep blaming was UCL top scorer and European golden Boot winner in 2019 without Xavi, Iniesta and Alves. Benzema, Bale, Modric, Marcelo, Alonsi, Dimaria, Kroos are all world class players so what are you saying?? Portugal was never a mediocre team. Portugal was Euro2004 finalist, 2006 World Cup Semi finalist and Euro 2012 Semi finalist........if you tag a team that had Quaresma, Moutinho, Pepe, Cavalho, Coentrao, Nani, Bosingwa, Renato Sanchez, & Andre Gomez average, what do we call the Greek squad that won Euro2004? Records and facts shows Messi has more Trophies, Golden Boots and Overall Best Player Award............so what records and facts shows Ronaldo is better??

kindly shows us one Best Player Award Ronaldo has won for outstanding display in an int'l tournamant

Ronaldo did it with scholls, fletcher and Rooney. Benzema modric bale and the rest have never won champions league apart from when Ronaldo was involved. Ronaldo did it with 2 different teams. And with 2 different sets of players. He did it with scholls , fletcher and Rooney as earlier stated .l, he also did it with Di Maria, ozil and alonso. They all left and he did it again with modric , casemiro and kroos. These are 3 different sets of midfield players . Messi only did it with xavi iniesta and busquet. When new sets of midfield came thru, he flopped. Ajax defeated real madrid 4.1 , lyon defeated man city 3.1 , Porto defeated Chelsea 1.0, why don't you mark those games as well , bayern cudnt defeat ajax that year as well. Portugal has always been a mediocre team , Ronaldo is the reason why you think they have been awesome. Apart from Figo , Rui Costa and Deco , name another great player there . When Ronaldo established himself as the top man in Portugal, only pepe and nani played for a big side , of which Nani was average in man u . Its even now that u can say Portugal have started having very good players . Portugal have never had a world class striker, even during the Figo days, the best they had was Nuno Gomez and he was average, and pauleta another average striker. Winning most golden boots with a particular club dont make u the greatest. Winning multiple balon d'or dont mean you are the greatest. U need to open your eyes to facts . I was a strong messi fan, I was privileged to be amongst the first set of people that watched him play his first ever game . I remember the commentator introducing him and saying his buyout clause at 100m dollars and I wondered who is this kid that has never kicked a ball on the field worth that much . Within 5 minutes of his introduction, he lobbed the keeper and scored after getting a pass from dinho, it was disqualified, Within the next 2 minutes he got another pass from dinho , this this he chipped the keeper and it was a goal. When I saw him on the bench in the junior world cup, I told my friends that this messi on the bench is an awesome player, no one knew who he was then. Infact I told alot of people about him that year , promoted him , but no one knew who he was and there was nothing like youtube. When they beat man u in the final against Ronaldo, I over celebrated it. But I had to confess and change my mind with time as Ronaldo progressed, Ronaldo was like a one man army , Messi seemed like someone that needed a particular operating system . Then when I started seeing that he was being favoured unjustly, I switched to Ronaldo cos Ronaldo seemed more reliable and could operate with any system

anonymous1759:


You're funny o. Statistically at present Messi is better than Ronaldo. He clocked 700 goals with lesser games , more trophies combined and more 6 world best to 5 with two years of active football ahead .

Did u put into consideration that Ronaldo switched clubs ? If Ronaldo played for Madrid the same number of years messi played for Barcelona, he would have hit a thousand goals by now

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cr7lomo:


Ronaldo did it with scholls, fletcher and Rooney.

Stop sounding like he won the UCL with an average Man Utd team. i remember that team had one of the best left back in Evra, and also one of the best defensive pair the games has ever seen in Vidic & Ferdinand, lets also not forget the ever reliable Van darsar in goal. in the midfield, Scholes, one of the best in his generation alongside Hargreaves & Carrick......then Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez...... Does this team look average to you?

Benzema modric bale and the rest have never won champions league apart from when Ronaldo was involved. Ronaldo did it with 2 different teams. And with 2 different sets of players. He did it with scholls , fletcher and Rooney as earlier stated .l, he also did it with Di Maria, ozil and alonso. They all left and he did it again with modric , casemiro and kroos. These are 3 different sets of midfield players .

Oga, Ozil has never won the CL......... 2 different teams? how and where? the only thing that changed alittle was the midfield pair meanwhile, Modric was always there regardless of the combo. 2014 was the only UCL victory Kroos and Casemeiro didnt feature so your argument is defeated here.

Messi only did it with xavi iniesta and busquet. When new sets of midfield came thru, he flopped.

You sound illogical with your point here. like i said before, Talent can win you games but title is won by a team. In 2019, Messi scored 12 goals that pushed Barcelona to the semis......he even scored twice in the semis against Liverpool to give them a comfortable 3-0 lead for the second leg but a masterclass from Liverpool ended their bid....... by your logic, Ronaldo was a flop until Madrid had to sign players to help him right?

why didn't Ronaldo win the UCL with juventus?? Ajax defeated real madrid 4.1 , lyon defeated man city 3.1 , Porto defeated Chelsea 1.0, why don't you mark those games as well , bayern cudnt defeat ajax that year as well.

You claim Messi failed to win the UCL without Xavi and Iniesta, since an individual can win the competition without a good team, what stopped Ronaldo from winning Juventus the UCL? did he flopped too or juve team was not good enough? Answering this will further prove your hypocrisy. do you even know Ronaldo has not crossed the quarter final neither has he won UCL top scorer since he left madrid which shows his performance was greatly impacted by his former teammates.

Portugal has always been a mediocre team , Ronaldo is the reason why you think they have been awesome.

Mediocres that played Euro2004 finals, 2006 WC semis, and Euro2012 Semi?? I have never seen an average team that is more consistent.

Apart from Figo , Rui Costa and Deco , name another great player there.

Cavalho and Pepe were not great??

When Ronaldo established himself as the top man in Portugal, only pepe and nani played for a big side , of which Nani was average in man u.

you lied.....Cavalho was a UCL winner with Porto. Pepe was one of the best CB. Coentrao was a very talented LB.....Quaresma was a good player. Juan Moutinho was a nother very good midfielder.

[s] Its even now that u can say Portugal have started having very good players . Portugal have never had a world class striker, even during the Figo days, the best they had was Nuno Gomez and he was average, and pauleta another average striker. Winning most golden boots with a particular club dont make u the greatest. Winning multiple balon d'or dont mean you are the greatest. U need to open your eyes to facts . I was a strong messi fan, I was privileged to be amongst the first set of people that watched him play his first ever game . I remember the commentator introducing him and saying his buyout clause at 100m dollars and I wondered who is this kid that has never kicked a ball on the field worth that much . Within 5 minutes of his introduction, he lobbed the keeper and scored after getting a pass from dinho, it was disqualified, Within the next 2 minutes he got another pass from dinho , this this he chipped the keeper and it was a goal. When I saw him on the bench in the junior world cup, I told my friends that this messi on the bench is an awesome player, no one knew who he was then. Infact I told alot of people about him that year , promoted him , but no one knew who he was and there was nothing like youtube. When they beat man u in the final against Ronaldo, I over celebrated it. But I had to confess and change my mind with time as Ronaldo progressed, Ronaldo was like a one man army , Messi seemed like someone that needed a particular operating system . Then when I started seeing that he was being favoured unjustly, I switched to Ronaldo cos Ronaldo seemed more reliable and could operate with any system

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cr7lomo:


Did u put into consideration that Ronaldo switched clubs ? If Ronaldo played for Madrid the same number of years messi played for Barcelona, he would have hit a thousand goals by now

Shifting goal post. You brag with Ronaldo playing for multiple clubs you want to give him unmerited credit for not playing for one club same thing you guys cretisize Messi for.