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humility33:
The embarrassment you people deserve is to be mediocre in scheme of things

U only get embarrassed when u refuse to do things right.... thats what NFF suffered with tammy

When have u seen north Africa nations process players lure and switch the way Pinnick did with Eze and Tammy

They rather go about it privately

U guys need to grow and learn

For your mind, the Canadian coach has set a precedence, he has done a yoeman's work because he got a rejected player in Ugbo?

You actually think Ugbo would have considered Canada if either England or Nigeria wanted him? Lol with all his discreet whatever, what happened with Tomori who was even their former youth team player? Bros, Abeg jee zuo ike biko

jihday:
you can’t put us on the same pedestal as Canada, they aren’t even giants in North America they need all the players they can lay their hands on. This Ugbo is warming the bench for Onuachu who’s kinda surplus to requirement for us. So why should we chase him?

I am not arguing this for Ike. I am talking on the need for the nigeria football authorities to up their approach in getting this foreign born talents because i feel same lustre attitude probably is been put up towards others

humility33:
I am talking on this Because it can argued that same attitude is been put up towards others better than him we desire

There is a saying how you do one thing is how you do everything

I am saying this because i think it is high time nigeria football authorities take time study and learn from other countries most especially Morocco and algeria on how they lure and get this foreign players

My bros calm down and stop taking this serious

We cannot kill our self our Ike ugbo who cannot bench world class onuachu at genk

andrewbaba44:
My bros calm down and stop taking this serious

We cannot kill our self our Ike ugbo who cannot bench world class onuachu at genk

Oga make una think outside the box na
I am concerned about the approach we adopt in reaching out to this boys not Ike

We need improve on the approach we receive and lure this kids.... all is not right with nigeria football authorities at the moment even the home grooming players is been hampered and not functioning

Joebie:
for 3 years Canada has been chasing Ugbo did Canada say kpem?
Before oga coach start to talk na after Ugbo annouce switch to Canada. See scouting process!

I will not put anything past our administrative style. We are Nigerians we know how we do things at home.

Modified
I have been searching Google News (Canada English), I can't even find anything on Ugbo's switch to Canada prior to the recent news.

I thought u said u leave outside the country

U seems to be so concerned and used to mediocrity or stagnant mode of recruitment

We need to embrace global changes and move same pace with the world

I hate it when we see nothing wrong or seems to get used to Nigeria administrative lopsidedness

Just imagine our female football is going way side already and lots more

humility33:
I am talking on this Because it can argued that same attitude is been put up towards others better than him we desire

There is a saying how you do one thing is how you do everything

I am saying this because i think it is high time nigeria football authorities take time study and learn from other countries most especially Morocco and algeria on how they lure and get this foreign players

I really need to bring this to your notice, if you haven't noticed about this yourself before and you need to stop it. You seems to find fault on almost everything that people do, mostly those that are not in your good books.
Pinnick or whatever his name is approached these FB privately, you would complain because to you he isn't doing anything because he choose to do it privately, and hr does the same thing publicly, you would still complain that he was supposed to do it privately.

Do you know why some persons that indulges in given and helping takes along the media when going to help? It's because of people like you because if they choose to do it privately, you and your kind will complain that these people are wealthy but aren't helping.

How does people satisfy guys like you?

humility33:
I am talking on this Because it can argued that same attitude is been put up towards others better than him we desire

There is a saying how you do one thing is how you do everything

I am saying this because i think it is high time nigeria football authorities take time study and learn from other countries most especially Morocco and algeria on how they lure and get this foreign players

Using Algeria and Morocco as examples ajust show you actually know nothing about those two teams. Both countries are always open about theirs too. I remember the cases of Ihataran, Munir, younger Khedira, Fekir, El Ghazi, Oussama and many more. Say what you know oga

wetin u dey yan bro.

I am telling you how we know it. I lived in Nigeria long enough, and visit at least twice yearly until 2020.
i no know wetin u dey yan about "used to mediocrity" bla bla bla

humility33:
I thought u said u leave outside the country

U seems to be so concerned and used to mediocrity or stagnant mode of recruitment

We need to embrace global changes and move same pace with the world

I hate it when we see nothing wrong or seems to get used to Nigeria administrative lopsidedness

Just imagine our female football is going way side already and lots more

Joebie:
for 3 years Canada has been chasing Ugbo did Canada say kpem?
Before oga coach start to talk na after Ugbo annouce switch to Canada. See scouting process!

I will not put anything past our administrative style. We are Nigerians we know how we do things at home.

Modified
I have been searching Google News (Canada English), I can't even find anything on Canada chasing Ugbo prior to the recent news.

if he had gone ahead to play for Nigeria you still won’t hear anything and you’ll think Canada didn’t do any chasing.

to answer your question, reveal the process and struggle after the deal is done and dusted.
People like him (as you put it) will praise Pinnick and the like.

Arabiandude:
I really need to bring this to your notice, if you haven't noticed about this yourself before and you need to stop it. You seems to find fault on almost everything that people do, mostly those that are not in your good books.
Pinnick or whatever his name is approached these FB privately, you would complain because to you he isn't doing anything because he choose to do it privately, and hr does the same thing publicly, you would still complain that he was supposed to do it privately.

Do you know why some persons that indulges in given and helping takes along the media when going to help? It's because of people like you because if they choose to do it privately, you and your kind will complain that these people are wealthy but aren't helping.

How does people satisfy guys like you?

ChrisKels:
Using Algeria and Morocco as examples ajust show you actually know nothing about those two teams. Both countries are always open about theirs too. I remember the cases of Ihataran, Munir, younger Khedira, Fekir, El Ghazi, Oussama and many more. Say what you know oga

I like your energy e no dey Cold for ur side always on hot mood

humility33:
I am not arguing this for Ike. I am talking on the need for the nigeria football authorities to up their approach in getting this foreign born talents because i feel same lustre attitude probably is been put up towards others

Someday, I pray you are either elected or appointed to do most of these things you usually complain about others not doing right and let's see if you won't be worse

thank you! unless Ugbo says something

jihday:
if he had gone ahead to play for Nigeria you still won’t hear anything and you’ll think Canada didn’t do any chasing.

Ejaria matter that is public knowledge of where his interest lies

This is Pinnick in 2016:

"If you talk about Tammy Abraham, he is like my son, his father and I grew up in the same neighborhood. so when they talk about him, I just laugh because I know what to do. As for Ovie Ejaria, I talk with the father often, he just called me recently. These are people we have met and they are all excited about Nigeria,"

" I am yet to see a Nigerian that is regretting being a Nigerian. No Nigerian, even if they have four or five passports, they are always excited being Nigerians. I can assure you that we shall get them to play for us at appropriate time."

Joebie:
to answer your question, reveal the process and struggle after the deal is done and dusted.
People like him (as you put it) will praise Pinnick and the like.

So what happens if after going about it privately it didn't work out and not even the player coming out to say anything in the case or Lookman? Won't he still assumed that nothing was done?

See, let me just tell you what I feel is the truth, there is no one that's bad in all ramifications, most times these guys at the NFF works really hard to get genuine results, just like every other in position of authorities. So we shouldn't always complain over everything because sincerely speaking, most of the guys out there today criticizing those in position of authorities will do worst when given same opportunity to fix things and make things right

ChrisKels:
If he did the bolded, you would still come here to say he did nothing because he didn't give a slip

thank you baba, that guy no dey ever satisfy, any small thing, he is on a roll

of all comments he had been quoting as per Ikejas case, he is the only one bringing Pinnick into it,
.it makes me wonder why

I am going to make an allegation not because I see am with my eyes, but because of how we normally do things. And I could still be wrong.

There are people in the NFF who sit down on these files and are expecting the parents of these boys to do something before they will move their hands. Why am I saying this? Because this is typically what we do in Nigeria.

For those who don't know, do you know that to get a visa interview appointment date in Lagos now, you have to buy a slot? Now we are talking US embassy things oh. When it comes to blatant crude corruption all of us know anything is possible in Nigeria.

Joebie:
More on Ugbo's switch:

"Through our excel structure we were able to find a contact at Woodbridge who had let us know that Ike had the potential to play for Canada, this is back in 2018," Herdman told reporters, including One Media.

"So we contacted Chelsea's Head of Recruitment and at the time they just stonewalled the opportunity, they were very clear that Ike wasn't interested in representing Canada although we never got a chance to speak to the player who was young at the time.

"They were very clear he was on a pathway with England and that Canada wasn't an option."

He added : "Ike could have easily went to Nigeria but it was pretty clear that he wants to be part of this journey, this brotherhood we've created with this young group of men, and to take a country somewhere it's never been before and to have that experience that doesn't come around very often in people's football careers".

"Ike could have easily went to nigeria but it was clear that he wants to b part of this journey"

For me,he went for d country who shows more seriousness at the right time,but it was not clear he wanted to be part of any journey.

First,he desired to play 4 england,
then nigeria,finally canada because that's dbest option 4 him.

There are many players out there.. you win some, you lose some.. Those you win, we will hear the story. Those we don't you don't, you also tell the story if asked. It's the same scouting process, no discrimination.

Arabiandude:
So what happens if after going about it privately it didn't work out and not even the player coming out to say anything in the case or Lookman? Won't he still assumed that nothing was done?

See, let me just tell you what I feel is the truth, there is no one that's bad in all ramifications, most times these guys at the NFF works really hard to get genuine results, just like every other in position of authorities. So we shouldn't always complain over everything because sincerely speaking, most of the guys out there today criticizing those in position of authorities will do worst when given same opportunity to fix things and make things right

What you have said is not strange (sadly) but you were humble enough to say you could be wrong however what irritates a lot of people on this thread is when our resident southgate states with certainty and authority something happened whereas the existing evidence doesn't add up.

Joebie:
I am going to make an allegation not because I see am with my eyes, but because of how we normally do things. And I could still be wrong.

There are people in the NFF who sit down on these files and are expecting the parents of these boys to do something before they will move their hands. Why am I saying this? Because this is typically what we do in Nigeria.

For those who don't know, do you know that to get a visa interview appointment date in Lagos now, you have to buy a slot? Now we are talking US embassy things oh. When it comes to blatant crude corruption all of us know anything is possible in Nigeria.

Let's stay with the argument here. No one is crying over Ike Ugbo because we are loaded with options.
We are talking about the scouting process and how it is handled administratively.

Napoleon55:
"Ike could have easily went to nigeria but it was clear that he wants to b part of this journey"

For me,he went for d country who shows more seriousness at the right time,but it was not clear he wanted to be part of any journey.

First,he desired to play 4 england,
then nigeria,finally canada because that's dbest option 4 him.

sir let Komekn argue his matter.

So what I have alleged here is strange as to the normal workings in Nigeria?

Do you also find it strange that people have to buy slots just go get a visa interview at the US embassy?

chrisooblog:
What you have said is not strange (sadly) but you were humble enough to say you could be wrong however what irritates a lot of people on this thread is when our resident southgate states with certainty and authority something happened whereas the existing evidence doesn't add up.

Why NFF go dey chase average players.
Many of us don’t realize that the best players in the super eagles today are our home grown talents. If you don’t have a Messi/Ronaldo potential I see no reason a player should be chased. If I may ask what have foreign born players done for us? I think Nigerians generally are just obsessed with anything foreign.

yea Nigeria is an island. The only country blessed with home grown talents.

cromz:
Why NFF go dey chase average players.
Many of us don’t realize that the best players in the super eagles today are our home grown talents. If you don’t have a Messi/Ronaldo potential I see no reason a player should be chased. If I may ask what have foreign born players done for us? I think Nigerians generally are just obsessed with anything foreign.

How is Amoo scoring headers at this height?

cromz:
Why NFF go dey chase average players.
Many of us don’t realize that the best players in the super eagles today are our home grown talents. If you don’t have a Messi/Ronaldo potential I see no reason a player should be chased. If I may ask what have foreign born players done for us? I think Nigerians generally are just obsessed with anything foreign.

I totally support you on this but I don't think the FB has to have potentials like Messi or Ronaldo. Someone like Eze doesn't have the Messi/Ronaldo potentials but he is quite good and the position he plays is kinda vacant in the current SE, so I think going for player like Eze isn't bad but not players like Abraham, Saka and even Lookman.
If FBs like Balogun and Ekong had not played for the SE, they could have easily been replaced by now by homegrown players

Arabiandude:
So what happens if after going about it privately it didn't work out and not even the player coming out to say anything in the case or Lookman? Won't he still assumed that nothing was done?

See, let me just tell you what I feel is the truth, there is no one that's bad in all ramifications, most times these guys at the NFF works really hard to get genuine results, just like every other in position of authorities. So we shouldn't always complain over everything because sincerely speaking, most of the guys out there today criticizing those in position of authorities will do worst when given same opportunity to fix things and make things right

thank you for this expose

Arabiandude:
Someday, I pray you are either elected or appointed to do most of these things you usually complain about others not doing right and let's see if you won't be worse

Only very few can do better than those who in power in nigeria if given a chance to rule.
N those few r always sidelined or not always interested.

TheLoneCitizen:
How is Amoo scoring headers at this height?

It's simply due to positioning and jump accuracy

Napoleon55:
Only very few can do better than those who in power in nigeria if given a chance to rule.
N those few r always sidelined or not always interested.

They are not sidelined, they are not just interested and you won't blame them because the Nigeria system will end up corrupting them also.

humility33:
I used to think you reason objectively

I made my comment preceding the previous post i made regarding how Ike switch was sabotaged prior he opt for Canada

If the NFF was competent as u try argue why was the process fouled

U need to start thinking both ways

I don't get it... Were u expecting the NFF to start the clearance process when the player hasn't declared interest yet?

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