Hello nairalanders


Now this is very common where I come from, when a man is dating a girl, everyone calls her his girlfriend, but immediately they notice that she is pregnant, almost everyone automatically changes the word "girlfriend" to "wife" they start calling her our wife without paying any bride price.

And they feel very comfortable doing that, most couples pay dowry when they are old and some don't even pay at all. I don't feel comfortable calling someone's girlfriend "our wife" just because she has kids for him.

That's where some people argue with me, that is only natural for me to follow suit, I said I won't.

Elders and pastors in the house, is it right to call a girlfriend - "wife" ?

Does the Bible accept that?

It's not right but society has made it seem like it's right over time and everyone has consciously or unconsciously followed suit. Though for me I don't fall for such as i still try to let them know they are not wifes yet until the marriage rites are performed and they are officially declared man and wife.

It's so rampant these days and it's so bad how majority have come to accept such shameful practice and are trying to make it a norm.

Baby mamas dey do Child dedication for Church now.

Westernisation is playing pranks on Africans.

A woman will get pregnant without knowing the father of the child, yet the society will applaud and celebrate her.

Mummytoo:
That's where some people argue with me, that is only natural for me to follow suit, I said I won't.

Elders and pastors in the house, is it right to call a girlfriend - "wife" ?

Does the Bible accept that?

Have you ever actually read God's declaration as far as marriage is concerned? You can find this in Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 19 vs 4 - 5, and in both places, the only stipulation as far as the marriage contract is concerned is that a man abandon his family, and cleave to his wife - they both become one at that.

A marriage contract is an agreement made between a man and a woman, and so the moment a man and a woman decide to mate/cleave/join , they become man and wife according to God's own Law.

God no send anyone to get parent permission or pay bride price or even all the other kwekwe ceremonies we dey add everyday to make money from marriage, - including the ones in your churches - all that are man-made ideas and inclusions which have nothing to do with God at all.

So, in conclusion, if you really care about what God says, then yes, even a baby mama is indeed a wife since she and the man had to have cleaved in order to conceive that child.

Bride price or no Bride price once a man and a woman agrees and start living together, having children and do everything husbands and wives do. They are husband and wife.

Kobojunkie:
Have you ever actually read God's declaration as far as marriage is concerned? You can find this in Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 19 vs 4 - 5, and in both places, the only stipulation as far as the marriage contract is concerned is that a man abandon his family, and cleave to his wife - they both become one at that.

A marriage contract is an agreement made between a man and a woman, and so the moment a man and a woman decide to mate/cleave , they become man and wife according to God's own Law.

God no send anyone to get parent permission permission pay bride price or even all the other kwekwe ceremonies we dey add everyday to make money from marriage, including the ones in your churches - all that are man-made ideas and inclusions which have nothing to do with God at all.

So, in conclusion, if you really care about what God says, then yes, even a baby mama is indeed a wife since she and the man had to have cleaved in order to conceive that child.

I've heard a preacher say this. He said "the reason many girls remain "single" for long t is that they are already in marriage and are still praying for marriage"
You can't be doing everything a wife does, enjoying all the benefits that comes with marriage and claim to be single..... that's hypocrisy.

It is wrong. How can you colloby a woman you didn't pay for.

shortgun:

I've heard a preacher say this. He said "the reason many girls remain "single" for long t is that they are already in marriage and are still praying for marriage"
You can't be doing everything a wife does, enjoying all the benefits that comes with marriage and claim to be single..... that's hypocrisy.

The preacher isn't entirely correct though.

Even the men and women in those circumstances can still pray for another marriage to come for them afterall God's Law does not disapprove of polygamy and polyandry, this by the very same Laws.

Kobojunkie:
The preacher isn't entirely correct though.

Even the men and women in those circumstances can still pray for another marriage to come for them afterall God's Law does not disapprove of polygamy and polyandry, this by the very same Laws.

Polygamy yes but polyandry I don't think so.
Never read anywhere God permits polyandry.

shortgun:

Polygamy yes but polyandry I don't think so.
Never read anywhere God permits polyandry.

The very same law that permit polygamy also permits polyandry- Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 18 vs 4- 6

Kobojunkie:
The very same law that permit polygamy also permits polyandry- Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 18 vs 4- 6

The verses you posted did not mention anything about polyandry...I was really hopeful to learn something new.

shortgun:

The verses you posted did not mention anything about polyandry...I was really hopeful to learn something new.

Neither do they mention polygamy at all, did you not notice that as well? Yet, this one law is the Law on which God defined marriage as a contract, an agreement between a man and a woman.

The beauty of this is He defined one union by it but God never limits any man or woman to one union. In fact. In Matthew 19, Jesus Christ makes it know that marriage is a choice, opening up the case of individuals engaging in zero or more unions.

Mummytoo:
Hello nairalanders


Now this is very common where I come from, when a man is dating a girl, everyone calls her his girlfriend, but immediately they notice that she is pregnant, almost everyone automatically changes the word "girlfriend" to "wife" they start calling her our wife without paying any bride price.

And they feel very comfortable doing that, most couples pay dowry when they are old and some don't even pay at all. I don't feel comfortable calling someone's girlfriend "our wife" just because she has kids for him.

That's where some people argue with me, that is only natural for me to follow suit, I said I won't.

Elders and pastors in the house, is it right to call a girlfriend - "wife" ?

Does the Bible accept that?

Marriage is beautiful.

Once the man is committed to the woman in this case, you should let them be.

It's not fair to demean the woman alone since they're both in the same boat.

The next thing is to encourage them to do the necessary ceremony to satisfy people like you.

Kobojunkie:
Have you ever actually read God's declaration as far as marriage is concerned? You can find this in Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 19 vs 4 - 5, and in both places, the only stipulation as far as the marriage contract is concerned is that a man abandon his family, and cleave to his wife - they both become one at that.

A marriage contract is an agreement made between a man and a woman, and so the moment a man and a woman decide to mate/cleave , they become man and wife according to God's own Law.

God no send anyone to get parent permission permission pay bride price or even all the other kwekwe ceremonies we dey add everyday to make money from marriage, including the ones in your churches - all that are man-made ideas and inclusions which have nothing to do with God at all.

So, in conclusion, if you really care about what God says, then yes, even a baby mama is indeed a wife since she and the man had to have cleaved in order to conceive that child.

Oga go and check the original ((Hebrew)) meaning of the word "cleave" before you start misleading people with your comments

Kobojunkie:
The very same law that permit polygamy also permits polyandry- Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 18 vs 4- 6

What kind of rubbish interpretation of scriptures is this one??

Gen. 2:24
A man ((singular)) will leave his father ((singular)) and mother((singular)), and cleave to his wife((singular))...

It didn't say men or father's or mother's or wives... Those are all plural but in scriptures it was clearly stated in singular!!!

Oga go and read the Hebrew ((original)) meaning of those words and have small sense....

Stop misleading people with your comments...

Your joy should be the fact that what your flat stomach couldn't do,your big poisoned stomach has done it even without dowry . Na that kind promotion young girls of nowadays dey find . Dem fit ginger the guyman just to come do the normal introduction....From there, marriage don start..

This life no need stress abeg

Kobojunkie:
Have you ever actually read God's declaration as far as marriage is concerned? You can find this in Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 19 vs 4 - 5, and in both places, the only stipulation as far as the marriage contract is concerned is that a man abandon his family, and cleave to his wife - they both become one at that.

A marriage contract is an agreement made between a man and a woman, and so the moment a man and a woman decide to mate/cleave , they become man and wife according to God's own Law.

God no send anyone to get parent permission permission pay bride price or even all the other kwekwe ceremonies we dey add everyday to make money from marriage, including the ones in your churches - all that are man-made ideas and inclusions which have nothing to do with God at all.

So, in conclusion, if you really care about what God says, then yes, even a baby mama is indeed a wife since she and the man had to have cleaved in order to conceive that child.

OK, I get your point, so if she is not pregnant, she is a girlfriend, but ones she's pregnant she changes to wife

Saintmary:


Marriage is beautiful.

Once the man is committed to the woman in this case, you should let them be.

It's not fair to demean the woman alone since they're both in the same boat.

The next thing is to encourage them to do the necessary ceremony to satisfy people like you.

U didn't get my point, go back and read it

Mummytoo:
Hello nairalanders


Now this is very common where I come from, when a man is dating a girl, everyone calls her his girlfriend, but immediately they notice that she is pregnant, almost everyone automatically changes the word "girlfriend" to "wife" they start calling her our wife without paying any bride price.

And they feel very comfortable doing that, most couples pay dowry when they are old and some don't even pay at all. I don't feel comfortable calling someone's girlfriend "our wife" just because she has kids for him.

That's where some people argue with me, that is only natural for me to follow suit, I said I won't.

Elders and pastors in the house, is it right to call a girlfriend - "wife" ?

Does the Bible accept that?

It's none of your business pepper body

Call her whatever others call her and do not judge

Kobojunkie:
Have you ever actually read God's declaration as far as marriage is concerned? You can find this in Genesis 2 vs 24 and Matthew 19 vs 4 - 5, and in both places, the only stipulation as far as the marriage contract is concerned is that a man abandon his family, and cleave to his wife - they both become one at that.

A marriage contract is an agreement made between a man and a woman, and so the moment a man and a woman decide to mate/cleave , they become man and wife according to God's own Law.

God no send anyone to get parent permission permission pay bride price or even all the other kwekwe ceremonies we dey add everyday to make money from marriage, including the ones in your churches - all that are man-made ideas and inclusions which have nothing to do with God at all.

So, in conclusion, if you really care about what God says, then yes, even a baby mama is indeed a wife since she and the man had to have cleaved in order to conceive that child.

I don't even know where to start making sense out of this rubbish you up here. You better check into a mental home before all the nuts in your brain loosen off completely. Imagine the bold error and nonsense!

Favfables1:
Oga go and check the original ((Hebrew)) meaning of the word "cleave" before you start misleading people with your comments

Original meaning of the word cleave? What in the world are you talking of now?

Favfables1:

What kind of rubbish interpretation of scriptures is this one??
Gen. 2:24
A man ((singular)) will leave his father ((singular)) and mother((singular)), and cleave to his wife((singular))...
It didn't say men or father's or mother's or wives... Those are all plural but in scriptures it was clearly stated in singular!!!
Oga go and read the Hebrew ((original)) meaning of those words and have small sense....
Stop misleading people with your comments...

I am not misleading anyone. Instead you are the one desperately trying to specially interpret what is written here so you can justify that which even God Himself never in fact said.

According to those verses, a marriage contract is an agreement between one man and one women - a union. However, God never said a man or woman can only enter into one such union.

This we see as several times in the same Bible, God Himself provided many wives for some of his own servants multiple unions. And the same Bible, Jesus Christ also informed us that God also created those who are meant to enter into No union at all- the Eunuchs.

Did God lie? Did God change His mind?

Mummytoo:
OK, I get your point, so if she is not pregnant, she is a girlfriend, but ones she's pregnant she changes to wife

Not correct! So long as they live as husband and wife do, they are already husband and wife, this according to God's own law on marriage. And if you look carefully, God doesn't define the how of it as He leaves that up to the couple to decide.

We are the ones who are stuck on trying to decide what term should apply when. God's Law does not say anything about that at all. The Law says so long as the two of them agree and are joined,they are one..

mastermaestro:
I don't even know where to start making sense out of this rubbish you up here. You better check into a mental home before all the nuts in your brain loosen off completely. Imagine the bold error and nonsense!

Take your own advice there. When you are ready to point out this so-called bold error and nonsense your eyes claims to see, let me know then.

Mummytoo:


U didn't get my point, go back and read it

I typed hastily, I get.

You see, what people do with their lives and marriages or the lack thereof is none of your business, as long as:

1. You're not funding them
2. They didn't come to you begging.


If you can't relate with them because you don't know the title to use, face front.

Kobojunkie:
Original meaning of the word cleave? What in the world are you talking of now?

The Bible was first written in Hebrew and Greek...
What we see as "English Version" is just a translation of the Bible from the above languages...

And if you have any idea at all with those languages ((which I doubt you have any)) you'd realize that, one word in Hebrew can mean different things depending on the context in which it is used...

Read it up ((I doubt you will )) and I sincerely, sincerely, SINCERELY hope that you understand...

Favfables1:
The Bible was first written in Hebrew and Greek...
What we see as "English Version" is just a translation of the Bible from the above languages...

And if you have any idea at all with those languages ((which I doubt you have any)) you'd realize that, one word in Hebrew can mean different things depending on the context in which it is used...

Read it up ((I doubt you will )) and I sincerely, sincerely, SINCERELY hope that you understand...

Again.....Original meaning of the word cleave? What in the world are you talking of now?

If you feel there is another meaning that ought to apply instead of the one I have used there, present it so we can get to the point here.

Kobojunkie:
Again.....Original meaning of the word cleave? What in the world are you talking of now?

If you feel there is another meaning that ought to apply instead of the one I have used there, present it so we can get to the point here.

Read it up...

Favfables1:
Read it up...

I don't need to though. You are the one who clearly has a problem with the word as used here.

So either you tell us what you believe it ought to say instead or I take it you are just here seeking attention for the sake of it.

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't need to though.

2. You are the one who clearly has a problem with the word as used here.

3. So either you tell us what you believe it ought to say instead

4. or I take it you are just here seeking attention for the sake of it.

1. Then continue in your ignorance, since reading and expanding your knowledge is such a huge task
2. Nahhhhhhh... I only have a problem with the fact that your incorrect interpretation is misleading
3. Tell us?? My dear, don't hide behind the crowd , "US" didn't post it, "YOU" did, so take responsibility for your post ((this one is seeking public validation...hmm...))
4. Haha!!! Seek attention from people I may never meet in real life, of what is use it that?? Or is that the motivation behind your post... interesting

In the early times, before man invented marriage ceremonies, once you've gone in (slept) with a maiden, you are obligated to be with her. According to God's laws, she becomes your wife.
I believe it is still valid till today.

Amanee:
It's none of your business pepper body
Call her whatever others call her and do not judge

It is good to discuss these things so we understand the truth of God separate from the lies peddled out there in His name.