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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 1:29pm On Nov 24, 2021
LostMyZeal:
IYKYK... tongue tongue tongue
This is the Koko, this was one of my major problem with Ole, not using other player in the team when your 1st choice are not performing.
Telles and even Dalot can come in to change the full back when they are not performing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:32pm On Nov 24, 2021
ChristoBam:


You're saying this like you don't know this board. Any permanent manager coming in is getting at least 3 years.

This strategy you want requires money to be spent.

Well, they made that mistake with Ole, I don’t think it will repeat itself. An interim is an interim, if he does well, give him a year contract, it’s not expensive and there is a lot of flexibility.

We can’t continue to give managers 3-year contracts and then we are stuck because we can’t sack them. We need to be prudent o, else, we will become cash-strapped like Barca and Juve.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:38pm On Nov 24, 2021
Let them appoint an interim manager or a permanent manager before we face Chelsea...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:42pm On Nov 24, 2021
Oasis007:


..... he played attacking football with previous Clubs he managed. Pressure to win Trophies made him change his style and tactics at Barcelona.


Same situation he'll be in at United.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:44pm On Nov 24, 2021
Oasis007:


grin

Interim.... till end of Season.

If he impresses, he gets the permanent job. We all know this.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 1:44pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Yes. I will tongue.

Also, we can’t sack Ole’s back room staff, they got their contracts a few weeks ago. If we sack them, we will be in trouble financially. We need a sensible and experienced manager that will work with them, not one that will bring a new back room team.

It’s an interesting model, maintain a back room staff, and change the head coach every now and then. We can’t afford to be sacking everyone everytime.

This contradicts the reports in the media; Woodward asked Ole if he wanted to change his backroom staff and Amaka said no that they are 'world class'. But na you dey board so I no fit argue with you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:47pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Well, they made that mistake with Ole, I don’t think it will repeat itself. An interim is an interim, if he does well, give him a year contract, it’s not expensive and there is a lot of flexibility.

We can’t continue to give managers 3-year contracts and then we are stuck because we can’t sack them. We need to be prudent o, else, we will become cash-strapped like Barca and Juve.

There's a difference. Ole is not Varlverde. Varlverde is someone that could contest for the job normally. Unlike Ole.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:52pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


The head determines where the body goes. Replace the head and see a change in direction. Some clubs have the same structure, and it’s working for them. they sign players for their systems and maintain the same back room staff, they only change the manager and one or two assistants every now and then.

Na wa o, retaining mediocrity angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:55pm On Nov 24, 2021
Panther7:
This contradicts the reports in the media; Woodward asked Ole if he wanted to change his backroom staff and Amaka said no that they are 'world class'. But na you dey board so I no fit argue with you.

I no dey board o, shuuuuu!

The model is not man Utd’s. I am saying that they could and should adopt it because:

1. The back room guys just got their contracts a few weeks ago, will be expensive to replace them.

2. The model is generally less expensive, provides more flexibility, and could aid consistency.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:58pm On Nov 24, 2021
ChristoBam:


There's a difference. Ole is not Varlverde. Varlverde is someone that could contest for the job normally. Unlike Ole.

I know, but there is no assurance na, if he gets an extension after performing well, no problem, just make sure the extension is not more than 1-2 years so he can easily get the sack if things don’t work out. Offering a 3-year contract to Ole and even renewing did not make sense at all, and I don’t think they would repeat that mistake.

On a separate note, Valverde is kinda desperate, so he will take an interim job to prove that he can do it and will def push for a 2-year contract later. Tuchel is a top coach that was managing PSG, but he got an 18-month contract at Chelsea even though he could have asked for 3 years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:09pm On Nov 24, 2021
elrony:


Na wa o, retaining mediocrity angry

Lol, money keeps the wheel spinning. We need prudence. You want us to pay millions to sack Carrick and co, another 10m to replace them, then pay 10 million to sign Poch (plus another 7-8 million per year contract)? Spending up to 45m on just the coaching crew in less than one year? Are you a prodigal son? tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:29pm On Nov 24, 2021
So we went from preferring Ralf Rangnick and Ten Haag to Poch and Valverde, while Carrick too might just wriggle his way in if results remain good.

Sidon look. Just win something, that’s what matters.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:05pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Lol, money keeps the wheel spinning. We need prudence. You want us to pay millions to sack Carrick and co, another 10m to replace them, then pay 10 million to sign Poch (plus another 7-8 million per year contract)? Spending up to 45m on just the coaching crew in less than one year? Are you a prodigal son? tongue

The prodigal son is the one that gave contract extensions to a coaching staff that failed under Mourinho and was failing under Solskjaer.

If we keep Carrick and McKenna under the next manager that would we would have kept the same failed trainers under 3 different managers.
And you guys want things to change? grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 3:09pm On Nov 24, 2021
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGolazo/status/1463261923747713026?t=jYcvLL7-VMx0tni0BIrrXQ&s=19


Peter Schmeichel says Steve Bruce would be a "fantastic" interim manager for Manchester United.

And would he take the job himself? � https:///yNo1xPmP5u


Kai grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:26pm On Nov 24, 2021
afrodoc2:


The prodigal son is the one that gave contract extensions to a coaching staff that failed under Mourinho and was failing under Solskjaer.

If we keep Carrick and McKenna under the next manager that would we would have kept the same failed trainers under 3 different managers.
And you guys want things to change? grin

Well, you are right, they failed big time, but to right things, they need to be strategic.

Carrick, McKenna and Phelan were not part of the crew under Jose and LVG na. Or am I missing something here? McKenna joined a few months before Mou left, Phelan was appointed when Ole joined, and Carrick played under Jose.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:24pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Well, you are right, they failed big time, but to right things, they need to be strategic.

Carrick, McKenna and Phelan were not part of the crew under Jose and LVG na. Or am I missing something here? McKenna joined a few months before Mou left, Phelan was appointed when Ole joined, and Carrick played under Jose.


You are indeed missing something. Carrick and McKenna were managers under Jose and Ole. That is 2 managers. Keep them under the next manager and that is 3 managers.

I said if we keep them under the next manager that would be 3 managers i.e Jose, Ole, and whoever the next manager is. And i mentioned Carrick and McKenna not Phelan.
This is quite significant cos our main complaint here has been obvious training deficiencies not tactics per se. We now want to keep those trainers for the 3rd manager.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On Nov 24, 2021
elampiro:
His anticipation and concentration were highlighted in United’s goal – when Fred pounced from Villarreal goalkeeper Geronimo Rulli’s short pass out to force the defensive error and bring about Ronaldo’s goal.

It was a similar story for Jadon Sancho's late second - when Fred broke up the opposition's play to produce the goal.
....

The guy that is always insulted

See pot calling kettle black.

You have insulted De Gea too. Without his multiple saves to keep United in the game, United could have easily lost to Villareal last night.

There’s no way your local idol(Henderson) was making any of those instinctive saves had he started. Like I said, all these fine margins are very important and they decide who wins or who loses.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:40pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:
Valverde is okay for the interim role or a one year contract. Let’s do trial and error to win trophies abeg. Valverde will come cheap and even if he is expensive, he will accept a one year contract which means if things don’t work, he gets the sack easily.

We need to change our strategy abeg.

Valverde is a winner, I want him.

Barca fans didn’t like him because his possession stats wasn’t as good as what they were used to but he got them good results for most parts.

This dude is a winner.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:44pm On Nov 24, 2021
Android17:
I am showing Tuchel's achievements in Germany have no bearing on Poch's in England. Tottenham is a more difficult proposition than Dortmund. That is not to say Tuchel is not better, I am saying we did not have that evidence before last season. You were not on this thread when people wanted Mourinho fired, it was almost unanimous how United fans here did not want Tuchel. I know some people here (Bayern fans) tried to show United fans that Pep recommended Tuchel to replace him at Bayern but the board felt he was a little too insubordinate and opinionated for them. But the United fans would not have it.

You are erroneously assuming that the majority of the United fans on this thread have common sense, that’s not the case.

The majority supported Ole through 3 years of failure and they were convinced he was an upgrade on the previous manager until last month.

That they didn’t want Tuchel when Jose was fired should tell you all you need to know about their general intelligence. You can not rely on their general consensus as a yardstick. The Ole saga should have told you how they think.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 4:50pm On Nov 24, 2021
afrodoc2:
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You are indeed missing something. Carrick and McKenna were managers under Jose and Ole. That is 2 managers. Keep them under the next manager and that is 3 managers.

I said if we keep them under the next manager that would be 3 managers i.e Jose, Ole, and whoever the next manager is. And i mentioned Carrick and McKenna not Phelan.
This is quite significant cos our main complaint here has been obvious training deficiencies not tactics per se. We now want to keep those trainers for the 3rd manager.

Carrick was a player under Jose, and McKenna was a manager for less than 6 months under Jose.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 5:02pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Carrick was a player under Jose, and McKenna was a manager for less than 6 months under Jose.

Carrick was definitely coaching under Jose at United when he retired.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 5:02pm On Nov 24, 2021
Illimitable:


See pot calling kettle black.

You have insulted De Gea too. Without his multiple saves to keep United in the game, United could have easily lost to Villareal last night.

There’s no way your local idol(Henderson) was making any of those instinctive saves had he started. Like I said, all these fine margins are very important and they decide who wins or who loses.
Lmao.
Saint Obi doesn't insult players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:10pm On Nov 24, 2021
hoopLA:

Lmao.
Saint Obi doesn't insult players.

You mean Elampiro is Saint Obi(the legendary Nollywood actor)?? cheesy grin

Elampiro, come outside.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 5:13pm On Nov 24, 2021
MRTA7:


Carrick was definitely coaching under Jose at United when he retired.

But Carrick retired in the summer of 2018.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 5:15pm On Nov 24, 2021
Illimitable:


Valverde is a winner, I want him.

Barca fans didn’t like him because his possession stats wasn’t as good as what they were used to but he got them good results for most parts.

This dude is a winner.


TBH, I don’t mind having him for a few months. He has won trophies.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:15pm On Nov 24, 2021
Like play like play, it's nearing 600 years since The Arsenal last played in the UCL shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:18pm On Nov 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Carrick was a player under Jose, and McKenna was a manager for less than 6 months under Jose.

Both Carrick and McKenna were coaches under Jose. I don’t know why you are arguing what is fact.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Devvy4: 5:27pm On Nov 24, 2021
Illimitable:


Valverde is a winner, I want him.

Barca fans didn’t like him because his possession stats wasn’t as good as what they were used to but he got them good results for most parts.

This dude is a winner.



Even barka fans will laugh at you for writing this
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:42pm On Nov 24, 2021
Devvy4:



Even barka fans will laugh at you for writing this

Barca fans are entitled prícks. They only worship Pep.

This is what Valverde did to 3Peat Madrid(arguably the best team in Europe).

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 5:49pm On Nov 24, 2021
So Daniel Sturridge now plays for Perth in Australia shocked I’m bewildered.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 6:31pm On Nov 24, 2021
Illimitable:


Valverde is a winner, I want him.

Barca fans didn’t like him because his possession stats wasn’t as good as what they were used to but he got them good results for most parts.

This dude is a winner.


Barca won 2 league titles in the past 5 seasons and they were both under Valverde. He had them top of the league when he was sacked and they went on to lose the title.

The sacking of Valverde was essentially a deflection tactic to mask the mismanagement of the club.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 6:31pm On Nov 24, 2021
Illimitable:


See pot calling kettle black.

You have insulted De Gea too. Without his multiple saves to keep United in the game, United could have easily lost to Villareal last night.

There’s no way your local idol(Henderson) was making any of those instinctive saves had he started. Like I said, all these fine margins are very important and they decide who wins or who loses.
You never can tell, Henderson also won't commit the error by Dr Gea and he would organise his defence better.

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