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JungleJustice01:
I've been thinking strongly of relocating these past couple years and I've made up mind I'm going for it in 2022.

I'm awaiting my IELTS result already and will redo if needed.

A little bio
31 years with about 8 years professional experience in Agric, top tier companies, married with 1 child and expecting one by June next year. I'll be able to come up with #5million for this project.

3 options on my mind.

1. Canada skilled migration
2. Australian skilled migration
3. Post graduate in Germany.

I've breezed through their pages but there's so much information to consume and so right now, I want to make a reasonable choice I can follow through to the end.

Which option do I have/has the best prospects for me please. I've thought of USA post graduate but the tuitions are just too high.

Thanks

Your best bet is Canada As a Nigerian that want to live in peace with good resources. Good luck

JungleJustice01:
I've been thinking strongly of relocating these past couple years and I've made up mind I'm going for it in 2022.

I'm awaiting my IELTS result already and will redo if needed.

A little bio
31 years with about 8 years professional experience in Agric, top tier companies, married with 1 child and expecting one by June next year. I'll be able to come up with #5million for this project.

3 options on my mind.

1. Canada skilled migration
2. Australian skilled migration
3. Post graduate in Germany.

I've breezed through their pages but there's so much information to consume and so right now, I want to make a reasonable choice I can follow through to the end.

Which option do I have/has the best prospects for me please. I've thought of USA post graduate but the tuitions are just too high.

Thanks

Save yourself the headache and climb the tree from where it is easiest. You will eventually go to Canada or the US with ease.
Manage your N5m and go for practical Agri-Business Management course in Estonian University of Life Sciences, Tartu. You will study across 3 countries and you are 100% guaranteed to get work in top notch agri businesses/companies.

Your family will be able to join you later. You can reach out to me for guidance, if you don’t mind. It’s piece of mind guaranteed.

if i have the money you have and also a job i will not go anywherre

Gerrard59:
Best option is the United States With your level of experience and hopefully a good grade, you can apply for a direct PhD and here's the juicy stuff; as a PhD student, you don't pay tuition fees as the department will waive it for you, get a stipend, you can bring your children and wife to the US; and yes, the school will fund you for that. Also, you have an easier path to green card and eventually citizenship after graduation. Now, the process entails you looking for a professor whose research theme aligns with yours. Send cold emails (see this link for in depth details: https://anumightytm.medium.com/part-two-guide-to-graduate-studies-in-the-united-state-of-america-us-38142f48d1f0), write the GRE to improve your chances, hopefully your IELTS score has a Listening score of at least 8 to improve your chances of getting teaching assistantships. Unfortunately, it's late to commence the process now as most schools offer funding for Fall season (August) as opposed to spring (March/April). So, what do you in the interim? Prepare very well for the journey and guess what? You will spend max N2M (inclusive of flight tickets) for this option because at the end of the day, you are not paying tuition fees nor providing living expenses. Why PhD instead of a masters? You're 31, don't have about 15M+ to present to the visa officer, long work experience and married with two children. An MSc doesn't favour you as most times, the school will not fund you. Trust me, if you opt for this option, you would be in the US mid-2023.


Best wishes!

Hello sir, can I please as you a few questions about this option ?

My questions are;
Are you allowed to go for a Ph.D without a masters in the US or anywhere? How feasible is that?

Also I graduated last year(2020) with a computer science degree CGPA of 3.69 is this option for me ? I hope to go for an MSc or Ph.D in the field of Data Science/data analyst.

Gertyman:
Canada is your best option. Post graduate in Canada and post graduate work permit after your studies is 3 years, if you go for 2 years programme. In addition, your wife can work full-time on your student visa. And within your 3 years post graduate work permit, you can apply for Canada express entry programme which will convert you to a permanent residence in Canada. Your choice of provinces should also be good. E. G mannitoba, Alberta, etc. And being 31 years of age, you are on a good side to be granted student visa.

There are also schools in Canada that the tuition can be paid installmentally.

In US, your wife cannot work. Australia also good, but Canada stands out as the best.

Five million naira doesn't go anywhere as a postgraduate student in Canada let alone for a married man. Fine, he applies for a PhD program in Canada but the odds of being admitted is low compared to the US where there are way many universities. Also, the stats for student's visas' approval by the Canadian embassy is ridiculously low. This is a fact: https://qz.com/africa/1708714/canada-rejects-most-african-student-visa-applicants/

I'm yet to read or know anyone who had full funding from the university as a PhD student and was denied visa. Becoming a permanent citizen and eventual citizen in the US is easier for Nigerians than say Indians or Chinese. A bigger economy which translates to more opportunities especially in the agricultural industry.

Gertyman:
Yes, possible and happening. They are dependents, and families are not meant to be separated. Only that you will need to provide proof of fund that you can take care of them while you study.

The trick of getting student visa is this, the person that have the admission goes first. After few months, other family member can apply for visa to meet the primary applicant.

Not that all the family cannot apply at the same time, but do not show immigration intention, so that primary applicant can go first.

Interesting! So on which type of visa application would the family use to reunite with the primary applicant?

Nyanabo:
Hello sir, can I please as you a few questions about this option ?

My questions are;
Are you allowed to go for a Ph.D without a masters in the US or anywhere? How feasible is that?

Also I graduated last year(2020) with a computer science degree CGPA of 3.69 is this option for me ? I hope to go for an MSc or Ph.D in the field of Data Science/data analyst.

Yes, you can apply for a direct PhD program into US universities depending on your profile: quality publications, work experience, a high grade (yours is quite low to be honest), stellar letter of recommendations, a SOP targeted at doing research or being a researcher after studies and a whole lot more. So, it's possible but entirely dependent on your profile. As for other places, it's hard to get a direct PhD as most require an MSc (research or taught) as a prerequisite. Though, the PhD program lasts for three years unlike the US of five or six years.

To your second paragraph, it's possible but dependent on the factors I listed above. A girl who graduated from Uniben got into Princeton Computer Science department as a PhD student but worked in relevant organisations for about three years, had a first class, most likely stellar letter of recommendations and published few articles about her research theme. If you write the GRE and TOEFL, attain minimum of 330 & 100 (Speaking should be at least 25), do one or two publications on your proposed research theme (unlike MSc programs, PhD are research inclined), attend conferences and present one or two papers, write a very focused SOP and get stellar LORs, a direct PhD is possible. It just requires more efforts especially looking at your grade and years of working experience (this depends on the organisation you worked in and projects worked on. A one year experience at McKinsey is highly regarded than a one year experience at ABC Computers).

Gerrard59:
Good option is postgraduate studies in Germany. You deposit the fund into a block account, which gets released to you upon arrival in Germany. However, the process in obtaining a visa as a Nigerian in Nigeria is onerous and the worst I've read in my entire life. This is because due to the sheer demand of people who want to flee Nigeria, Covid-19 disruption which resulted in logjam of applications and maybe a change to dissuade prospective applicants, the process for applying a student's visa has two categories - A and B. Where Category A: students who got scholarships from governments, organisations or the school. Basically, you're funded by a third party. Also, if you have a first class within a certain period of time (check the embassy and thread). This Category will have your application processed quickly and you get invited for an interview. Category B: You have a 2.1 and below, self-funded etc. This will have your application processed at a later date and takes a year (again, check the thread). See why I mentioned it being onerous and worst ever read about? You have folks in Category B who got admitted but because they are in that category, their visa interview dates are allocated at dates beyond resumption dates and sometimes the following year. That's, you apply for admission for say September batch but don't get a visa interview till say June meanwhile classes commenced the previous year. Compare it to Japan where you apply for admission into the October intake, get a visa interview once your certificate of eligibility arrives (usually a month before, that's, August), head to embassy, get the visa and travel to Japan. Also, you're married and a father, this will incur more expenses if you intend carrying them along.

Better option is Canada express entry. You go through the process and all things being equal, you get ITA sometime next year. However, 5M will not be enough as a family man with two children. If I'm not mistaken, single applicants are required to possess POF of C$12, 000. Unless you go alone through the competitive process, you're patient, have a very high IELTS score of 8888, be prepared to learn French if need be etc.

Best option is the United States With your level of experience and hopefully a good grade, you can apply for a direct PhD and here's the juicy stuff; as a PhD student, you don't pay tuition fees as the department will waive it for you, get a stipend, you can bring your children and wife to the US; and yes, the school will fund you for that. Also, you have an easier path to green card and eventually citizenship after graduation. Now, the process entails you looking for a professor whose research theme aligns with yours. Send cold emails (see this link for in depth details: https://anumightytm.medium.com/part-two-guide-to-graduate-studies-in-the-united-state-of-america-us-38142f48d1f0), write the GRE to improve your chances, hopefully your IELTS score has a Listening score of at least 8 to improve your chances of getting teaching assistantships. Unfortunately, it's late to commence the process now as most schools offer funding for Fall season (August) as opposed to spring (March/April). So, what do you in the interim? Prepare very well for the journey and guess what? You will spend max N2M (inclusive of flight tickets) for this option because at the end of the day, you are not paying tuition fees nor providing living expenses. Why PhD instead of a masters? You're 31, don't have about 15M+ to present to the visa officer, long work experience and married with two children. An MSc doesn't favour you as most times, the school will not fund you. Trust me, if you opt for this option, you would be in the US mid-2023.

P.S. Forget the Australian option, you don't have the money as it's way more expensive than Canada's, your age doesn't favour you and maybe your occupation is not in high demand.

Best wishes!

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Abba114:
if i have the money you have and also a job i will not go anywherre

because u selfish, u don’t want better life for ur children’s

If you are an Agric expert you can make good money in Nigeria though, you don't really need abroad. But if you must travel by all means, have you looked into the express entry for Canada?

Soffyh:
because u selfish, u don’t want better life for ur children’s

Dont blame em at all
We see life from different perspectives

Sensitive advice

Attit:
Germany
You arent single anymore. If your spouse can cope with the language and lifestyle, why not? Your kids will not have trouble since they are growing up there. So, it is more of your spouse.

Australia
It's a good option, but during Covid-19 the Australian govt treated foreign students like trash. Indians have abandoned the country. It is a good option, but calculate very well. They speak English and you will have no trouble.

Canada
It is always the best option for Nigerians who can go through the skilled program. But life in Canada is not that exciting, I must let you know, except you are in a bubbling place like Ontario.

US
Overall in the future, this is your best option. But your chances are slim since you are married. You will end up divorcing your wife and marry another there to get your permanent stay. There is no other way ooooo. So, if you are a christian or a principled person, just forget this option. It is good for singles.

Alternative
The U.K is one of your best shots. Listen, if you have 5 million, hmmmmm....maybe you can get a cheap school. Just go to the UK ooo. Visa is very easy now if your account is loaded. On top, you are able to work outside as a student. You just need to worry about your first year pay. Then, hustle the rest of tuition over there. The good news is that after your education, you have automatic 3 years visa to stay behind and look for job as a PhD graduate. Master is 2 years. Brexit and Covid-19 has injured the UK economy and they are sourcing for skilled and unskilled workers in Asia and Africa seriously. The whole of EU got out of the UK after Brexit. That thing is hard presently on the British economy. Anyone who gets in now before they are stabilized has a bright future there. To me, the UK is your best bet since you habe a family.

But if you can hustle the US or Canada, great! Think twice about Germany. The derterminant factor whether to go to Germany is your spouse.

Agric expert
I am not sure you know the goodies in Agric in Nigeria. If you are an expert, why do you want to run away permanently? For what? Oga, go and learn artificial insemination and start producing cattles for dairy products. You will never regret it. Or is it vegetables -tomato, cucumber, cabbage, okra etc? You will make it huge. What have you been doing since you have access to agric info? Or are you just a theoretical expert?

Let me advise you, whatever you do, do not leave Nigeria and lock yourself up there since you are into agric. Chai! Opportunities are here. Come on. If it's just 3 months you can come to Naija in a year and you enter bush, millions will roll out. Your foreign exchange is a bonus to move your farm forward. Oga, if you know practical, you will not just be talking like this. You will be balling money presently.

If I were you, I would find a way to combine doing agric in naija and living abroad.

Anyway, goodluck sir!

Soffyh:
because u selfish, u don’t want better life for ur children’s

What do you mean by better life for your children? Even if you and your descendants stay abroad for 50 generations as citizens doing well, you are still African and you all would still likely not be seen as one originally belonging to their land or respected as such.

JungleJustice01:
I've been thinking strongly of relocating these past couple years and I've made up mind I'm going for it in 2022.

I'm awaiting my IELTS result already and will redo if needed.

A little bio
31 years with about 8 years professional experience in Agric, top tier companies, married with 1 child and expecting one by June next year. I'll be able to come up with #5million for this project.

3 options on my mind.

1. Canada skilled migration
2. Australian skilled migration
3. Post graduate in Germany.

I've breezed through their pages but there's so much information to consume and so right now, I want to make a reasonable choice I can follow through to the end.

Which option do I have/has the best prospects for me please. I've thought of USA post graduate but the tuitions are just too high.

Thanks

Try all if you have the resources then go for the one that approved you

odimbannamdi:
Interesting! So on which type of visa application would the family use to reunite with the primary applicant?

The same type of visa of the primary applicant, the dependant can work a full-time.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1482&top=15

Spouse/partner work permits
Accompanying spouses or common-law partners of full-time international students are eligible for an open work permit, which means they do not need a job offer or a Labour Market Impact Assessment from Service Canada.

Your spouse or common-law partner may be eligible for a work permit if:

you are a full-time student at an authorized post-secondary institution and
you have a valid study permit.
Full details of spousal work permit eligibility are available on the IRCC website.

Gerrard59:
Good option is postgraduate studies in Germany. You deposit the fund into a block account, which gets released to you upon arrival in Germany. However, the process in obtaining a visa as a Nigerian in Nigeria is onerous and the worst I've read in my entire life. This is because due to the sheer demand of people who want to flee Nigeria, Covid-19 disruption which resulted in logjam of applications and maybe a change to dissuade prospective applicants, the process for applying a student's visa has two categories - A and B. Where Category A: students who got scholarships from governments, organisations or the school. Basically, you're funded by a third party. Also, if you have a first class within a certain period of time (check the embassy and thread). This Category will have your application processed quickly and you get invited for an interview. Category B: You have a 2.1 and below, self-funded etc. This will have your application processed at a later date and takes a year (again, check the thread). See why I mentioned it being onerous and worst ever read about? You have folks in Category B who got admitted but because they are in that category, their visa interview dates are allocated at dates beyond resumption dates and sometimes the following year. That's, you apply for admission for say September batch but don't get a visa interview till say June meanwhile classes commenced the previous year. Compare it to Japan where you apply for admission into the October intake, get a visa interview once your certificate of eligibility arrives (usually a month before, that's, August), head to embassy, get the visa and travel to Japan. Also, you're married and a father, this will incur more expenses if you intend carrying them along.

Better option is Canada express entry. You go through the process and all things being equal, you get ITA sometime next year. However, 5M will not be enough as a family man with two children. If I'm not mistaken, single applicants are required to possess POF of C$12, 000. Unless you go alone through the competitive process, you're patient, have a very high IELTS score of 8888, be prepared to learn French if need be etc.

Best option is the United States With your level of experience and hopefully a good grade, you can apply for a direct PhD and here's the juicy stuff; as a PhD student, you don't pay tuition fees as the department will waive it for you, get a stipend, you can bring your children and wife to the US; and yes, the school will fund you for that. Also, you have an easier path to green card and eventually citizenship after graduation. Now, the process entails you looking for a professor whose research theme aligns with yours. Send cold emails (see this link for in depth details: https://anumightytm.medium.com/part-two-guide-to-graduate-studies-in-the-united-state-of-america-us-38142f48d1f0), write the GRE to improve your chances, hopefully your IELTS score has a Listening score of at least 8 to improve your chances of getting teaching assistantships. Unfortunately, it's late to commence the process now as most schools offer funding for Fall season (August) as opposed to spring (March/April). So, what do you in the interim? Prepare very well for the journey and guess what? You will spend max N2M (inclusive of flight tickets) for this option because at the end of the day, you are not paying tuition fees nor providing living expenses. Why PhD instead of a masters? You're 31, don't have about 15M+ to present to the visa officer, long work experience and married with two children. An MSc doesn't favour you as most times, the school will not fund you. Trust me, if you opt for this option, you would be in the US mid-2023.

P.S. Forget the Australian option, you don't have the money as it's way more expensive than Canada's, your age doesn't favour you and maybe your occupation is not in high demand.

Best wishes!

You're a smart ass and well informed .Na this kind sensible man I need. Chai!! Marry me please

Attit:
Germany
You arent single anymore. If your spouse can cope with the language and lifestyle, why not? Your kids will not have trouble since they are growing up there. So, it is more of your spouse.

Australia
It's a good option, but during Covid-19 the Australian govt treated foreign students like trash. Indians have abandoned the country. It is a good option, but calculate very well. They speak English and you will have no trouble.

Canada
It is always the best option for Nigerians who can go through the skilled program. But life in Canada is not that exciting, I must let you know, except you are in a bubbling place like Ontario.

US
Overall in the future, this is your best option. But your chances are slim since you are married. You will end up divorcing your wife and marry another there to get your permanent stay. There is no other way ooooo. So, if you are a christian or a principled person, just forget this option. It is good for singles.

Alternative
The U.K is one of your best shots. Listen, if you have 5 million, hmmmmm....maybe you can get a cheap school. Just go to the UK ooo. Visa is very easy now if your account is loaded. On top, you are able to work outside as a student. You just need to worry about your first year pay. Then, hustle the rest of tuition over there. The good news is that after your education, you have automatic 3 years visa to stay behind and look for job as a PhD graduate. Master is 2 years. Brexit and Covid-19 has injured the UK economy and they are sourcing for skilled and unskilled workers in Asia and Africa seriously. The whole of EU got out of the UK after Brexit. That thing is hard presently on the British economy. Anyone who gets in now before they are stabilized has a bright future there. To me, the UK is your best bet since you habe a family.

But if you can hustle the US or Canada, great! Think twice about Germany. The derterminant factor whether to go to Germany is your spouse.

Agric expert
I am not sure you know the goodies in Agric in Nigeria. If you are an expert, why do you want to run away permanently? For what? Oga, go and learn artificial insemination and start producing cattles for dairy products. You will never regret it. Or is it vegetables -tomato, cucumber, cabbage, okra etc? You will make it huge. What have you been doing since you have access to agric info? Or are you just a theoretical expert?

Let me advise you, whatever you do, do not leave Nigeria and lock yourself up there since you are into agric. Chai! Opportunities are here. Come on. If it's just 3 months you can come to Naija in a year and you enter bush, millions will roll out. Your foreign exchange is a bonus to move your farm forward. Oga, if you know practical, you will not just be talking like this. You will be balling money presently.

If I were you, I would find a way to combine doing agric in naija and living abroad.

Anyway, goodluck sir!

Many thanks sir, I know the potentials and I'm tapping them fully as a consultant and full time farmer. I'm primarily looking at getting a foreign masters degree and having an escape route in case this country goes down like moving my family out of here. I don't intend to stay long out there as I have a company running here.

I'll look into UK opportunities as well.

Attit:
Agric expert
I am not sure you know the goodies in Agric in Nigeria. If you are an expert, why do you want to run away permanently? For what? Oga, go and learn artificial insemination and start producing cattles for dairy products. You will never regret it. Or is it vegetables -tomato, cucumber, cabbage, okra etc? You will make it huge. What have you been doing since you have access to agric info? Or are you just a theoretical expert?

Let me advise you, whatever you do, do not leave Nigeria and lock yourself up there since you are into agric. Chai! Opportunities are here. Come on. If it's just 3 months you can come to Naija in a year and you enter bush, millions will roll out. Your foreign exchange is a bonus to move your farm forward. Oga, if you know practical, you will not just be talking like this. You will be balling money presently.

If I were you, I would find a way to combine doing agric in naija and living abroad.

Anyway, goodluck sir!

This is a great advice, however I am worried about the Herdsmen ruining people's farm. Wouldn't this be a big risk seeing what happens in Nigerian farms now.

boladale123:
Can you fill me in?

Juanmike:
Am interested

she is only after selling you ebook lol. Dont fall for it

ednut1:
she is only after selling you ebook lol. Dont fall for it

Bros you've actually tried by giving numerous hints about the intent of the owner of this thread. I hope people don't fall for it.

ednut1:
she is only after selling you ebook lol. Dont fall for it

Lol. I've seen the advert alot and I've not been interested about it cos I'm not comfortable about it either. Thanks anyway but I'll try to get it just to satisfy my curiosity.

everyevery:
The later part of his narrative is that there is a course on caregiver that would be done online or offline run by a school in Lagos

Online course? Please how do I go about it? And for the caregiving job, is there an age barriers to apply?

truthsayer009:
This is a great advice, however I am worried about the Herdsmen ruining people's farm. Wouldn't this be a big risk seeing what happens in Nigerian farms now.

Herds men attack grains field. Corn, millet, soy, etc. And they are like open field depending on rain. Vegetable farmers do not have challenges with herdsmen. Ita not attractive to them. Leading cattles to a vegetable is a waste of time, they wont eat vegetables.