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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:11pm On Dec 01, 2021
codemaniacs:


In English language, the term "white" is not a slur or abusive word and means something that's pure and clean while the term "black" is a slur and abusive word and means something that doesn't exist or something that's evil

.

I never said the terms white or black are racist words. In fact, if a white man calls me "negro" not "nigger" I'm taking no offense, because that's what I am. A negro.

Context is the key here.

Joe said no matter the qualification he will never accept a white coach. That is purely racist.

Let's flip the narrative for example.

If Pep Guardiola tells the media that he will never sign a BLACK player for whatever reason other than health concerns, that's purely racist.

But if Guardiola says he will never sign AFRICANS there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Why? In the first instance he focused mainly on skin colour, which is pure racism.

But in the second instance he focused only on a background or culture, which is opinionated.

So in the second case, even light-skinned Africans like Salah or Ziyech will not be considered by Guardiola.

But dark-skinned non-Africans like Rashford, Lukaku, Sala, Kante do not apply. There's no racism in that.

In the case of Joe, he said grassroot football is very important so he doesn't want white coaches. That is racism, because he focuses just on skin colour to draw his selection.

What he should have said was foreigners as that focuses on background and culture, not skin colour.

This is were I had to correct him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Omanambala(m): 11:11pm On Dec 01, 2021
PurpleHouse:
Watching Aribo today for the first time at Rangers. He's not as creative as I think. He is not a creative midfielder.

I don't think anybody ever made the argument of Aribo being a creative midfielder. Aribo , of course , has never being skillful or creative. Forget YouTube video compilation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:13pm On Dec 01, 2021
zuchyblink:
you know nothing about football,teams with players plying there trade their will beat you any day any time. Those that know football more than you clamoured for him and he was invited by the coach and supported by football administrators in Nigeria. Who are you? You are just a noise maker on Nairaland fooling around in the name of sports analyst

If there is anybody that don't know football it should be you or is there is something between you and Ighalo that you haven't told us

We are talking of Dennis balling in the epl you're mentioning Ighalo in a back water league

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:13pm On Dec 01, 2021
Omanambala:


[s]I don't think anybody ever made the argument of Aribo being a creative midfielder. Aribo , of course , has never being skillful or creative. Forget YouTube video compilation.[/s]
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:14pm On Dec 01, 2021
andrewbaba44:


You are the annoying one here

What wonders can musa and Simon do at the afcon ?

Wonder boy I see you

grin

If you let your brain act before your fingers, you would notice I put them together 'Simon and Musa' then coma before Dennis.

Note: I clearly mentioned Dennis in the Lineup and also said he's gonna be our Mo Salah coz he's inform.

Why I did put both Players together?! Your ITK na wonder sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:15pm On Dec 01, 2021
if dennis continues with his form i dont see him going down with watford if they eventually gets relegated. at worst a mid table epl team will snap him up

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:16pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:
We don't need Ighalo and VicMo. They should be allowed to retire peacefully. We are covered in both positions. Awoniyi, Sadiq, Dessers, Onuachu and Iheanacho are good enough for Striker position.

On the Wings, Chuks, Lookman, Kalu, Ejuke, Simon and Musa, Dennis are also capable enough to do wonders at AFCON.

Bro did you just mention Simon and Musa on same sentence like they're capable of doing wonders

We need to get serious we Have what it takes to win next year afcon but I doubt if we will win it because of the agbaya we parade as a coach

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:19pm On Dec 01, 2021
charlesemeka85:
if dennis continues with his form i dont see him going down with watford if they eventually gets relegated. at worst a mid table epl team will snap him up

I think something better awaits him, he's currently bigger than Sarr which is no small feat.

If not because of AFCON obligations, Liverpool would be going for him next month.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:19pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


I never said the terms white or black are racist words. In fact, if a white man calls me "negro" not "nigger" I'm taking no offense, because that's what I am. A negro.

Context is the key here.

Joe said no matter the qualification he will never accept a white coach. That is purely racist.

Let's flip the narrative for example.

If Pep Guardiola tells the media that he will never sign a BLACK player for whatever reason other than health concerns, that's purely racist.

But if Guardiola says he will never sign AFRICANS there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Why? In the first instance he focused mainly on skin colour, which is pure racism.
But in the second instance he focused only on a background or culture, which is opinionated.
So in the second case, even light-skinned Africans like Salah or Ziyech would not be considered by Guardiola.
But dark-skinned non-Africans like Rashford, Lukaku, Sala, Kante do not apply. There's no racism in that.

In the case of Joe, he said grassroot football is very important so he doesn't want white coaches. That is racism, because he focuses just on skin colour to draw his selection.

What he should have said was foreigners as that focuses on background and culture, not skin colour.

This is were I had to correct him.


The problem is that you chose to understand the statement the way it is. If you need a rigger in a farm who will work with a hoe. Will you go hiring a first class agric engineer to do that?

I am saying the qualifications is not the point. The point is the work at hand most white coaches that will come in are not going to do the ground work.

So no matter the qualifications won't count. Tell me he is ready to do the rigging work and not he has a first class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:19pm On Dec 01, 2021
humility33:


Bro did you just mention Simon and Musa on same sentence like they're capable of doing wonders

We need to get serious we Have what it takes to win next year afcon but I doubt if we will win it because of the agbaya we parade as a coach

grin

Make una dey calm down on this Board. Bar injury, both gonna make the final List, that's a Fact.

I guess Kalu, Chuks, Ejuke, Lookman, Dennis can't make wonder? Why you Guys are singling out those two for God's sake!

Besides, Simon is performing wonders at Nantes. Who knows if Dennis gonna be Simon 2.0 under Rohr?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 11:19pm On Dec 01, 2021
Dennis , sarr and pedro can keep Watford up

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 11:22pm On Dec 01, 2021
Ekong was decent today i don't know which match you watch
Subzero047:
Nna eh, Ekong dey disgrace himself

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 11:23pm On Dec 01, 2021
isan:
Dennis , sarr and pedro can keep Watford up

You need a defence to survive EPL. Watford scores 2 every game and concedes 3. They've scored more goals than all the teams around them but haven't kept a single clean sheet.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 11:25pm On Dec 01, 2021
isan:
Eking was decent today i don't know which match you watch

His decision making is too poor for an EPL defender. Sure, he puts in tackles, is strong, and goes for aerial duels, but you need positioning and football sense to man the defense of an EPL team because of how tricky and creative EPL attackers are. Unfortunately, Ekong is seriously lacking in those departments.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 11:25pm On Dec 01, 2021
Ekong and Dennis were phenomenal today! �

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:25pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


I never said the terms white or black are racist words. In fact, if a white man calls me "negro" not "nigger" I'm taking no offense, because that's what I am. A negro.

Context is the key here.

Joe said no matter the qualification he will never accept a white coach. That is purely racist.

Let's flip the narrative for example.

If Pep Guardiola tells the media that he will never sign a BLACK player for whatever reason other than health concerns, that's purely racist.

But if Guardiola says he will never sign AFRICANS there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Why? In the first instance he focused mainly on skin colour, which is pure racism.

But in the second instance he focused only on a background or culture, which is opinionated.

So in the second case, even light-skinned Africans like Salah or Ziyech will not be considered by Guardiola.

But dark-skinned non-Africans like Rashford, Lukaku, Sala, Kante do not apply. There's no racism in that.

In the case of Joe, he said grassroot football is very important so he doesn't want white coaches. That is racism, because he focuses just on skin colour to draw his selection.

What he should have said was foreigners as that focuses on background and culture, not skin colour.

This is were I had to correct him.

Go to Berger sites. Most of the work are done by Nigerians. The Germans come with truck, see how things are going, shout and zoom off. While the supervising Nigerian Engineers stay with the workers all through the day.

My boss once said, see how thorough the Berger work is, talking of the road. Then said I like Oyibo work.

An engineer said, have you seen any Oyibo working here.

If a foreign coach, because we are hardly ever signing a black foreign coach, Never done before is ready to do the work, he has my support.

Unfortunately, we will hardly find any ready to do the dirt work.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 11:26pm On Dec 01, 2021
humility33:


If there is anybody that don't know football it should be you or is there is something between you and Ighalo that you haven't told us

We are talking of Dennis balling in the epl you're mentioning Ighalo in a back water league
Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt have a good number of their players playing there. They will beat your EPL rookies silly any day any time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 11:28pm On Dec 01, 2021
zuchyblink:
Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt have a good number of their players playing there. They will beat your EPL rookies silly any day any time

Because they have good coaches, which we do not have unfortunately.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 11:29pm On Dec 01, 2021
drDoom3:


Because they have good coaches, which we do not have unfortunately.
story for the gods. It is not about where you play but what you are doing there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:34pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Go to Berger sites. Most of the work are done by Nigerians. The Germans come with truck, see how things are going, shout and zoom off. While the supervising Nigerian Engineers stay with the workers all through the day.

My boss once said, see how thorough the Berger work is, talking of the road. Then said I like Oyibo work.

An engineer said, have you seen any Oyibo working here.

If a foreign coach, because we are hardly ever signing a black foreign coach, Never done before is ready to do the work, he has my support.

Unfortunately, we will hardly find any ready to do the dirt work.

This scenario you played out is actually white supremacy.

So if I understand you: you feel the white coaches will feel too good to follow grassroot football, but the blacks will be able to?

Right?

And to add there's nothing unique about German bosses leaving Nigerians to do hard labour, or about never seeing whites doing menial jobs in Nigeria. They are a minority.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:37pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


grin

If you let your brain act before your fingers, you would notice I put them together 'Simon and Musa' then coma before Dennis.

Note: I clearly mentioned Dennis in the Lineup and also said he's gonna be our Mo Salah coz he's inform.

Why I did put both Players together?! Your ITK na wonder sha.

And you prefer musa and Simon to VICMO grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:41pm On Dec 01, 2021
charlesemeka85:
if dennis continues with his form i dont see him going down with watford if they eventually gets relegated. at worst a mid table epl team will snap him up


Winner coach Ranieri is definitely influencing his game too. He's too bold for someone that hasn't seen the EPL before.


Is pa Claudio applying the Vardy Manual to Dennis??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:42pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


This scenario you played out is actually white supremacy.

So if I understand you: you feel the white coaches will feel too good to follow grassroot football, but the blacks will be able to?

Right?

And to add there's nothing unique about German bosses leaving Nigerians to do hard labour, or about never seeing whites doing menial jobs in Nigeria. They are a minority.

We need a coach that will do the ground work. So qualifications won't count as the criteria. What will count is that is he ready to do the job.

I know our indigenous coaches are ready to do the ground work. That is why I will pick them over a White European with a decorated CV.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:42pm On Dec 01, 2021
isan:
Dennis , sarr and pedro can keep Watford up

Joshua king is also important

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:43pm On Dec 01, 2021
andrewbaba44:


And you prefer musa and Simon to VICMO grin

grin

I didn't force VicMo to retire nau. You and I know Musa gonna be like Yobo in his last Days as Eagles' Player and Captain.

He's already warming bench. Simon might play some part, but I won't be surprised if he's dropped for Lookman at some point and for rest of Tournament.

Check my posts on Ighalo return. I defended him and happy he returned. Did he justify it?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:43pm On Dec 01, 2021
Subzero047:
Nna eh, Ekong dey disgrace himself

Shut up your mouth

Ekong was decent today

You cap too much

We all insulted ekong last week for sure

Be truthful ok

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:44pm On Dec 01, 2021
isan:
Ekong was decent today i don't know which match you watch

That one Dey watch ball ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:45pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


We need a coach that will do the ground work. So qualifications won't count as the criteria. What will count is that is he ready to do the job.

I know our indigenous coaches are ready to do the ground work. That is why I will pick them over a White European with a decorated CV.

What of a black European, my man?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:45pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


grin

I didn't force VicMo to retire nau. You and I know Musa gonna be like Yobo in his last Days as Eagles' Player and Captain.

He's already warming bench. Simon might play some part, but I won't be surprised if he's dropped for Lookman at some point and for rest of Tournament.

Check my posts on Ighalo return. I defended him and happy he returned. Did he justify it?

Fabyom say rohr don call back moses nah

I like ighalo so much but he is not needed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:45pm On Dec 01, 2021
Something I'm noticing from smaller EPL teams when playing EPL's big 3.


They cross and cross and cross enough to reduce the big 3 Fullbacks from joining attack.


TAA speed to run back for timely clearance vs Everton was needed.


Chelsea too were overwhelmed with crosses tonight. Just end product lacking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:46pm On Dec 01, 2021
They Attack me when I said Dennis is better than Danjuma
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:47pm On Dec 01, 2021
drDoom3:


His decision making is too poor for an EPL defender. Sure, he puts in tackles, is strong, and goes for aerial duels, but you need positioning and football sense to man the defense of an EPL team because of how tricky and creative EPL attackers are. Unfortunately, Ekong is seriously lacking in those departments.

Ekong Dey fuckup wella

But his decision making was never poor today sha

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