Please,help me out!, Are they both called Engineers?, back ur answer with reason(s) to enable me plan ahead, thanks in advance!

The are not both called engineer.
The BSc Electrical Engineering is called an Engineer though some still want to discriminate between B.Sc and B.Eng
The guy that has a B.Sc (ed) in Electrical Technology is not qualify to practice as an engineer rather he is qualify to Teach because he studied the course with the aim of teaching it not practicing it.
Only a person that studied and graduated in a Faculty of engineering can be qualified to practice as an engineer.

A BSc(Ed) Electrical Technology is trained to become a teacher.While a BEng Electrical Engineering is trained to become an Engineer.However,He cannot be addressed by the title,Engr, until he has registered as a member of an Engineering Professional Body e.g Nigerian Society of Engineers or COREN.

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A BSc(Ed) Electrical Technology is trained to become a teacher.While a BEng Electrical Engineering is trained to become an Engineer.However,He cannot be addressed by the title,Engr, until he has registered as a member of an Engineering Professional Body e.g Nigerian Society of Engineers or COREN.

@ihejirika you can only consult or be addressed as an engineer when you register with a professional body i.e COREN being an NSE member only doesnt guarantee you that status unless a regulatory body like COREN registers you.

@poster you need a bachelor in the Engineering faculty to qualify to practise as an engineer.

Businesstools:

A BSc(Ed) Electrical Technology is trained to become a teacher.While a BEng Electrical Engineering is trained to become an Engineer.However,He cannot be addressed by the title,Engr, until he has registered as a member of an Engineering Professional Body e.g Nigerian Society of Engineers or COREN.

are you implying that the Bsc(Ed) are not qualified to register as a member of Nigerian Society of Engineers to be titled as'Engr.', please enlighten me!, thanks in advance!

Hmmm! just tot to add my own one kobo. It depends on the University offering this award. Is the BSc(ed) a double honours or single? Why I am asking this is that

a) if it is a single honour then, the person is said to qualify to teach stuff that are engineering based and mostly in secondary schs, so perhaps say technical drawing, I think pls do not quote me

b) if it is a double honours then, the person is said to qualify as both an engineer and an engineering tutor.

In some universities, BSc(ed) is a double honour while in others it is single.

Besides if you had done basically everything in engineering and including education, who then says you cant qualify as an engineer? There are like someone mentioned examining bodies that would v to certify you so why not then probably write the exams to qualify per say.
Interestingly, if you go here: http://www.northampton.ac.uk/courses/130/engineering-bsc-hons/ and  http://www.inverness.uhi.ac.uk/course-information/business-and-technology/engineering/bsc-engineering you'll notice BSc engineering seem to be more for HND people who want to convert to having a BSc.

Now from my own first hand experience

I read economics education, as sad as I was when I went in to study this course (wasnt my first choice : how do you choose between chemical engineering and accounting?) anyhoo! was offered economics education (which I hated and knew would be doing an MSc in Economics as soon as I finished) so went in with non chalant attitude, however when I finished, I was told I had a double honours degree i.e. I am qualified to teach economics and I was an economist. Gbam, I was happy, killing 2 birds with one stone. Anyhoo! at the time, I was a member of NESA and also NUESA i think that is Nigerian economics students association and Nigerian university education student assocation (i tink cant remember all this societies jare). Finished 2002 and 2years later went to further my education

Today, I have an MSc in Business Economics and a PhD in Economics.
Pls note, economics has many other divisions, business, macro, micro, finance, development etc.
I am into business, finance, development and international economics , i might have digressed from the real question but does BSc(ed) limit you from achieving your dreams?
Is it double honours or single

Today, I am proud it was a double honours that I had as I practically did everything the economics students did and also included education to it so while they can only be economists, if worse comes to worse, I can teach. Moreover, many schs now I think only want to employ someone with an education degree anyways.

Hope this helps, at the end of the day its your decision and you need to put in your all in whatever you end up doing.

God bless

mooretes:

Hmmm! just tot to add my own one kobo. It depends on the University offering this award. Is the BSc(ed) a double honours or single? Why I am asking this is that

a) if it is a single honour then, the person is said to qualify to teach stuff that are engineering based and mostly in secondary schs, so perhaps say technical drawing, I think pls do not quote me

b) if it is a double honours then, the person is said to qualify as both an engineer and an engineering tutor.

In some universities, BSc(ed) is a double honour while in others it is single.

Besides if you had done basically everything in engineering and including education, who then says you cant qualify as an engineer? There are like someone mentioned examining bodies that would v to certify you so why not then probably write the exams to qualify per say.
Interestingly, if you go here: http://www.northampton.ac.uk/courses/130/engineering-bsc-hons/ and  http://www.inverness.uhi.ac.uk/course-information/business-and-technology/engineering/bsc-engineering you'll notice BSc engineering seem to be more for HND people who want to convert to having a BSc.

Now from my own first hand experience

I read economics education, as sad as I was when I went in to study this course (wasnt my first choice : how do you choose between chemical engineering and accounting?) anyhoo! was offered economics education (which I hated and knew would be doing an MSc in Economics as soon as I finished) so went in with non chalant attitude, however when I finished, I was told I had a double honours degree i.e. I am qualified to teach economics and I was an economist. Gbam, I was happy, killing 2 birds with one stone. Anyhoo! at the time, I was a member of NESA and also NUESA i think that is Nigerian economics students association and Nigerian university education student assocation (i tink cant remember all this societies jare). Finished 2002 and 2years later went to further my education

Today, I have an MSc in Business Economics and a PhD in Economics.
Pls note, economics has many other divisions, business, macro, micro, finance, development etc.
I am into business, finance, development and international economics , i might have digressed from the real question but does BSc(ed) limit you from achieving your dreams?
Is it double honours or single

Today, I am proud it was a double honours that I had as I practically did everything the economics students did and also included education to it so while they can only be economists, if worse comes to worse, I can teach. Moreover, many schs now I think only want to employ someone with an education degree anyways.

Hope this helps, at the end of the day its your decision and you need to put in your all in whatever you end up doing.

God bless

u nailed it! God bless u too.

mooretes:

Hmmm! just tot to add my own one kobo. It depends on the University offering this award. Is the BSc(ed) a double honours or single? Why I am asking this is that

a) if it is a single honour then, the person is said to qualify to teach stuff that are engineering based and mostly in secondary schs, so perhaps say technical drawing, I think pls do not quote me

b) if it is a double honours then, the person is said to qualify as both an engineer and an engineering tutor.

In some universities, BSc(ed) is a double honour while in others it is single.

Besides if you had done basically everything in engineering and including education, who then says you cant qualify as an engineer? There are like someone mentioned examining bodies that would v to certify you so why not then probably write the exams to qualify per say.
Interestingly, if you go here: http://www.northampton.ac.uk/courses/130/engineering-bsc-hons/ and  http://www.inverness.uhi.ac.uk/course-information/business-and-technology/engineering/bsc-engineering you'll notice BSc engineering seem to be more for HND people who want to convert to having a BSc.

Now from my own first hand experience

I read economics education, as sad as I was when I went in to study this course (wasnt my first choice : how do you choose between chemical engineering and accounting?) anyhoo! was offered economics education (which I hated and knew would be doing an MSc in Economics as soon as I finished) so went in with non chalant attitude, however when I finished, I was told I had a double honours degree i.e. I am qualified to teach economics and I was an economist. Gbam, I was happy, killing 2 birds with one stone. Anyhoo! at the time, I was a member of NESA and also NUESA i think that is Nigerian economics students association and Nigerian university education student assocation (i tink cant remember all this societies jare). Finished 2002 and 2years later went to further my education

Today, I have an MSc in Business Economics and a PhD in Economics.
Pls note, economics has many other divisions, business, macro, micro, finance, development etc.
I am into business, finance, development and international economics , i might have digressed from the real question but does BSc(ed) limit you from achieving your dreams?
Is it double honours or single

Today, I am proud it was a double honours that I had as I practically did everything the economics students did and also included education to it so while they can only be economists, if worse comes to worse, I can teach. Moreover, many schs now I think only want to employ someone with an education degree anyways.

Hope this helps, at the end of the day its your decision and you need to put in your all in whatever you end up doing.

God bless

It may work for the poster above but in engineering it doesn't work like that.
Just like the degree says B.Sc (Ed): In Nigeria o, you dont have the prerequisite to be addressed as an engineer, you are trained to be a teacher but with a B.Sc in Electrical Engineering, you have the basic prerequisites to be called an Engr. and using this prefix in front of your name.

After graduation, you have to wait for 4yrs (gathering experiences) before you can write an examination, attempt an oral examination and write a report of your post graduation experiences.

Note: How many satellite campuses offer courses in core engineering courses? NONE. Shine your eyessss
I hope this will help you understand it better

I do not know if membership of an Engineering Body is open to BSc(Edu) holders.But I do know very well that the BEng holder requires some years of relevant Engineering experience to qualify for membership.I begin to imagine how the BSc(Edu) holder will acquire the required experience.

correctly put, Bsc(Hons) in Electrical/Electronics Technology, can they be addressed as Engineers?, thanks once again

APPROVED SCHEDULE OF ENTRY QUALIFICATIONS INTO ENGINEERING CADRES

ENGINEERS
1. B. Sc, B. Eng, B. Tech in Engineering
2. HND in an Engineering field + COREN accredited PGD in the same field e.g. HND Civil Engineering + PGD Civil Engineering
3. Diploma – Engineer from Continental Europe.
4. Degrees in Engineering from the East Bloc translated as M. Sc.
5. New B. Sc in some countries in Eastern Bloc as degree

A Registered Engineer shall use the abbreviation "Engr" before his name


This is culled from www.COREN.gov.ng

Bsc(ed) is not registrable. You can check the website to confirm this. GOOD LUCK.

If He studies Engineering, he can get the title Engr.
If he studies technology, may be he would be called technologist or better still, electrician just like people who study building technology are called builders. Just my opinion.

I dont think an engineering degree will be a bsc? dont they have eng at the end of the name or summin?

It doesnt matter what u read, b.sc, b.ed, b.eng or what hav u. D most important thing is once u are a graduate go all out and make d money enough d put ur wife quiet at home.

practically we dont have any engineer in this country anyway!

The module for Bsc(ed) differ from Bsc or BTech. Bsc(ed) is a trained teacher (Electrical Technology tutor) which Bsc or B Tech. is a professional in the field of Elect Tech. The 1st can only teach while the second can both teach by bringing the field experience to the class room and also practice in Engineering field. Engr is awarded for a practicing man on the engineering field apart from "fellow"

just thinking in response to ade, why would someone not qualified as a teacher teach? what gives an engineer the right to teach? do u not think teaching itself deserves someone with the qualification? if u argue that as a BSc ed you are only qualified to teach but not qualified to practice engineering, why then would someone with BEng or BSc eng qualify to teach and also practice engineering? What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Besides, I believe it should be BEng anyway and not BSc eng. In anycase, dont know how this is offered in Nga. I did give example of this in schs from outside Nga.

I dont really know what it entails in engineering but like my own example (of which i finished from Unilorin) I am an economists and an economics teacher.

Going back to why wld someone not qualified as a teacher teach, we believe that since we read say Biology, Chemistry, English etc, we are qualified to teach this courses in schs, however it is not so, we need to understand what it entails to teach. In fact in the UK, you need to go for a PGCE (postgraduate certificate in education, http://www.tda.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/teacher-training-options/pgce.aspx) if anyone who studied a solid course wants to teach. This is because in education, we get to do teaching practice and other stuff related to how to manage students, teach and pass on the knowledge so you see, not everyone can teach.

Even if you have a PhD, you still need to study how to teach before you can properly teach in Unis. This is what the government and Universities expect.
Meanwhile, dont we think we just tend to name everything? Someone said, we dont v engineers in the country, he might be right. Do you know that road side car engineers (some actually do v a qualification) also wants to be referred to as an engineer. Do you know that in England, they hardly have Engr in front of their names? Weird isnt it but in Nga, we tend to have the Engr. pride I guess, but who says it isnt something to be proud of?

As long as you do the work and really know your stuff, then please go ahead and call yourself whatever but if you are put on the spot and cant seem to ans anything really, you'll need to go back to the drawing board.

O! one more thing, most of our children are not really doing well in exams, y, maybe we can argue that 1) they are not being tot well cos we do not have a qualified teacher 2) maybe we can argue that there are too many things which have 'blocked their brains' social network, too much playing, parents not checking their childs' books to know if the child is playing or learning and 3) maybe it is a general fall in education standards but seriously whatever the case maybe, if you dont have someone who can pass on knowledge the right way and you have children who are too involved in FB, games and friends to care about what they would be facing in future. So trying to up the education standard is a challenge that everyone needs to rise up and face not just complain about how poor the standard is n not doin anything about it. I've got ideas but I was told the person who I was going to present it to was wanting to make it his own, so its still with me.

God help us, and we also need to start helping ourselves.

BTW, at the end of the day all these qualifications are all names, isnt it?

The curriculum of B.Sc(ed) and B.Sc/B.Eng. Elect Eng differs. For the former, the curriculum focuses on teaching and not on practice of engineering.The curriculum of latter is the one designed to practice and also teach the practice of engineering.B.Sc (Ed) holders can only teach the engineering but are not grounded in training to practice.

Is this a trick question? Unless of course there is a dependency on the university where the degrees are thought.
In normal universities there is generally no premise for comparing the 2 degrees. One is an education degree with a specialism in electrical tech. The other is a full blown engineering degree with correct heavy duty maths and physics - not beans,

what can some that have bsc in physic and electronic do before he can join coren so that he can have egineer title in any of the following engineer courses computer electronic ,electric and electronic ,computer engr etc or can he join coren

I had my Bsc(ed) degree in 2009. With this qualification i have built my own house, got married, bought a very fine car and I'm living a happy life. And i know a graduate of 2001 with B.eng(Bsc in engineering) still roaming about street searching for non available job.

mooretes: just thinking in response to ade, why would someone not qualified as a teacher teach? what gives an engineer the right to teach? do u not think teaching itself deserves someone with the qualification? if u argue that as a BSc ed you are only qualified to teach but not qualified to practice engineering, why then would someone with BEng or BSc eng qualify to teach and also practice engineering? What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Besides, I believe it should be BEng anyway and not BSc eng. In anycase, dont know how this is offered in Nga. I did give example of this in schs from outside Nga.

I dont really know what it entails in engineering but like my own example (of which i finished from Unilorin) I am an economists and an economics teacher.

Going back to why wld someone not qualified as a teacher teach, we believe that since we read say Biology, Chemistry, English etc, we are qualified to teach this courses in schs, however it is not so, we need to understand what it entails to teach. In fact in the UK, you need to go for a PGCE (postgraduate certificate in education, http://www.tda.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/teacher-training-options/pgce.aspx) if anyone who studied a solid course wants to teach. This is because in education, we get to do teaching practice and other stuff related to how to manage students, teach and pass on the knowledge so you see, not everyone can teach.

Even if you have a PhD, you still need to study how to teach before you can properly teach in Unis. This is what the government and Universities expect.
Meanwhile, dont we think we just tend to name everything? Someone said, we dont v engineers in the country, he might be right. Do you know that road side car engineers (some actually do v a qualification) also wants to be referred to as an engineer. Do you know that in England, they hardly have Engr in front of their names? Weird isnt it but in Nga, we tend to have the Engr. pride I guess, but who says it isnt something to be proud of?

As long as you do the work and really know your stuff, then please go ahead and call yourself whatever but if you are put on the spot and cant seem to ans anything really, you'll need to go back to the drawing board.

O! one more thing, most of our children are not really doing well in exams, y, maybe we can argue that 1) they are not being tot well cos we do not have a qualified teacher 2) maybe we can argue that there are too many things which have 'blocked their brains' social network, too much playing, parents not checking their childs' books to know if the child is playing or learning and 3) maybe it is a general fall in education standards but seriously whatever the case maybe, if you dont have someone who can pass on knowledge the right way and you have children who are too involved in FB, games and friends to care about what they would be facing in future. So trying to up the education standard is a challenge that everyone needs to rise up and face not just complain about how poor the standard is n not doin anything about it. I've got ideas but I was told the person who I was going to present it to was wanting to make it his own, so its still with me.

God help us, and we also need to start helping ourselves.

BTW, at the end of the day all these qualifications are all names, isnt it?

Pls sir can i meet you on facebook

u nailed it! God bless u too.

education dudes be feeling like...there is a reason why there is Bsc. and Bsc(ed)... Project topics for these two differs on a large scale

Akieelu:
I had my Bsc(ed) degree in 2009. With this qualification i have built my own house, got married, bought a very fine car and I'm living a happy life. And i know a graduate of 2001 with B.eng(Bsc in engineering) still roaming about street searching for non available job.

lucky you then

@ mooretes you just said plain rubbish...so to teach requires specific training,so to apply all this knowledge to the daily activities of humans doesnt require a specific training abi?. I dont know why you guys cant just stick to beign educationists...haba abeg park well joorh

darkhorizon:
@ mooretes you just said plain rubbish...so to teach requires specific training,so to apply all this knowledge to the daily activities of humans doesnt require a specific training abi?. I dont know why you guys cant just stick to beign educationists...haba abeg park well joorh

Calm down!
what are you on about?
Re-read my comment and perhaps you would make out something sensible from it. Otherwise, can you kindly explain what point you were trying to make?

Thanks

pls sir i study electrical electronics technology. i.e B.Sc(edu) electrical technology, and I want to do my masters in electrical engineering is that possible.

holuwhartosin:
pls sir i study electrical electronics technology. i.e B.Sc(edu) electrical technology, and I want to do my masters in electrical engineering is that possible.

Most schools demand an "engineering" attached to the degree though e.g UNILAG

Do a good research all the best bro