If you are one of those that read the meaning of Quran, you will easily read that: the meaning of Salatul fatihi is from glorious Qur'an

SALATUL FATIHI:
O Allah bless our Muhammad the opener of the closed,
THE QUR'AN: we have not sent you Except as a mercy to the universe. Q21:107

SALATUL FATIHI:
The seal of the passed,
THE QUR'AN:
Muhammad S.A.W. was not the father of any of u men, but as messager of Allah and seal of the (past) prophets..... Q33:40

SALATUL FATIHI:
He who makes the truth victorious by the truth,
THE QUR'AN:
But the messager and those who have Faith together with him, strive with their wealth and life (in the path of Allah) Q9:88

SALATUL FATIHI:
The guide to your perfection
THE QUR'AN:
And for sure, you guide to the path that is perfectly straight. Q42:52

SALATUL FATIHI:
And also unto his household, (the blessings should be) of equivalent magnitude to his status and his status is tremendously great.
THE QUR'AN:
Indeed the blessings of Allah on you are tremendously great. Q68:4

Alhamudul-lilah!!!! Salatul fatihi did not contradict the Quran and what is not contradict the Quran is what?

Salatul fatihi is an inspiration which came through the dream of two servants of Allah. Check the below Hadiths on dreams

It was narrated from Abu Qatadah, that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: “Good dreams come from Allah and bad dreams come from the Shaitan. Whoever sees a dream that he dislikes, let hum spit lightly to his left and seek refuge with Allah from Shaitan, and it will not harm him; and he should not tell anyone about it. If he sees a good dream, let hum rejoice but he should not tell anyone except one whom he loves.”
[ Sahih Muslim ]

Abu Hurairah said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) say: ‘Whoever sees me in a dream will see me when he is awake, or it is as if he saw me when he was awake, for the Shaitan cannot resemble me.”’
[ Sahih Muslim and Bukhari]


Narrated by ABU Hurairah I heard Allah's apostle saying that , "Noting is left of the prophetism Except Al-mubashirat." they asked "what are Al-mubashirat?" He replied, the true good dreams (conveyed glad tidings).
Bukhari Volume 9 book 87 number 117

It was narrated that Samurah bin Jundab said: “When the Prophet (s.a.w) had prayed Subh, he would turn towards them (i.e., the people praying with him) and say: ‘Did any one of you see a dream last night?”’
[ Sahih Muslim]


.. From above, Salatul fatihi is a good dream because it does not contradict Quran Except if your own sunna is relegated to only what prophet did but if ur own Sunna combined His DID, His COMMAND and what he didn't CRITICIZED then following Hadiths, Salatul fatihi is not only a Sunna but a great Sunna.

Key NoTe: Sunna is not only what Prophet did but also what he command and what he didn't critizied.e.g prophet did not do Circle of Zikir but he Commended, Prophet did not Dance but he allow bidoun dance in the mosque, Prophet stop Sayyina Ali A.S to take a second wife. We have alot in Hadith of what prophet didn't do but he Command his Al-humah to do[quote author=EsvRotimiJubril post=72829525][/quote]


I would advise you all to make good research before making statements that will put you in trouble.

I went through the whole contribution under this thread and it’s great to see everyone sharing their knowledge out here.

The little I can say is that I don’t see anything wrong with ”Solatu Fathi”

O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.

The translation alone here is very well in ordained with the Quran and that depicts it isn’t Haram.

May Allah(Swt) bless and continue to bestow his knowledge on us for he is all knowing.

Masha Allah

Ibbravo:
I went through the whole contribution under this thread and it’s great to see everyone sharing their knowledge out here.

The little I can say is that I don’t see anything wrong with ”Solatu Fathi”

O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.

The translation alone here is very well in ordained with the Quran and that depicts it isn’t Haram.

May Allah(Swt) bless and continue to bestow his knowledge on us for he is all knowing.

Masha Allah

It's bidah....the recommended one is solatul-Ibraheemiyyah

It's not ambiguous at all....

No matter how meaningful the translation of a duah may sound, it'll not be accepted in as much as there is a recommended one by the prophet..

Yustash001:
It's bidah....the recommended one is solatul-Ibraheemiyyah

It's not ambiguous at all....

No matter how meaningful the translation of a duah may sound, it'll not be accepted in as much as there is a recommended one by the prophet..

Stop been sonbi

Fundamentalist:


Your ignorance is quite glaring, so even after evidence is shown to you, you still deny, you're on your own?

" their are three things that destroy a human,
stingeness, following of desires and pride ".

Narrated by Abu hurrairah, bin abbas and bin abi awfa (sahihul jami'i no 1804)

My brother we that recite SALATUL-FATIHI follow the Shahih Hadith from Bukhar and Muslim

The Prophet said nothing remain in my prophethood except The true dreams.
If really you are Alsuuna u don't have any single to call it Bid'ah

Reciting it is same as worshipping idols

this is a controversial topic. its not a matter of being good or bad to recite but it's associated to a particular sect and you don't expect people of the sect to accept that what they have is wrong e.g i've seen a tebleeg saying if a woman doesn't use niqab she has no iman, whereas others say it's not compulsory. let everyone do what works for them as long as it doesn't change anything in the religion. the different sect groups are the ones dividing the muslims.

Don't be deceived by anyone...
Any deed aside what the prophet and his sohabah practised will be rejected on the day of qiyaama which solatul- faith is included....

Alhamdulillah!

Kudos to everyone, since 2004! this tread still continues, wow!

most notably people is this dialogue is @AlBaqir and @Fundamentalist and everyone is also commendable.

Basically! if a reasonable someone comes here without even religious believe, he will deduce the following point:

@AlBaqir started with using solatul-Ibrahimiyyah which was brought by the Prophet (SAW) is good, but later gives some logical reasons not to follow it anymore due to some reasons stated by him, like if muslim continue to do it (as in what Prophet (SAW) brings), he may be one of unfortunate people in hereafter. Hence, Muslim should drop it solatul-Ibrahimiyyah and follow SALATUL-FATIHI

@Fundamentalist however says we should not use SALATUL-FATIHI because it was not practice by the prophet(SAW) or his companions and solatul-Ibrahimiyyah is best for us. Hence, tagged SALATUL-FATIHI as innovation.

I always heard that islam is completed, that it doesnt need to add more to it ~Q5:3. One thing that is very clear is that the SALATUL-FATIHI was introduced 1,100year after the demise of the prophet(SAW). If i get @AlBaqir right, Allah will forgive those that doesnt recite SALATUL-FATIHI because It was an updates, like Allah the most High just updated it through the sheikh that introduce it, and we that witness it must recite it.

No doubt! an update is good, infact! Sheikh faroq onikijipa gives another update that reciting SALATUL-FATIHI is more greater than observing solat and i have the video. one can simply wakes up and do it around fajr time and just read one and sleep back, invariably we can just downgrade solat and use SALATUL-FATIHI instead because the update is fine by us.

ehn! You cant object it! if you overruled the above statement, then the rest of this topic is meaningless.

Update is good, infact, you see automation industry like benz, we have benz 230 in 1990s and it cant be use anymore, so there was update such as benz GL350, GL450 which you will be marvelous about the updates and changes.

And in Christianity, there is update as well, that's why we have different bible according to batch of updates.

By updating our islam, below are the latest update:
* SALATUL-FATIHI should be authenticated and cancel solatul-Ibrahimiyyah. version 1: by our noble sheikh Ahmad Tijani
* SALATUL-FATIHI should be recited instead of observing 5 daily solat. version 1.5: by our noble sheikh farouq onikijipa

These are current versioning that i know, someone can just create a github repository for latest updates and versioning.

My dear comrades, innovation can never be best option.

and Allah knows best

Ibroh24:
Alhamdulillah!

Kudos to everyone, since 2004! this tread still continues, wow!

most notably people is this dialogue is @AlBaqir and @Fundamentalist and everyone is also commendable.

Basically! if a reasonable someone comes here without even religious believe, he will deduce the following point:

@AlBaqir started with using solatul-Ibrahimiyyah which was brought by the Prophet (SAW) is good, but later gives some logical reasons not to follow it anymore due to some reasons stated by him, like if muslim continue to do it (as in what Prophet (SAW) brings), he may be one of unfortunate people in hereafter. Hence, Muslim should drop it solatul-Ibrahimiyyah and follow SALATUL-FATIHI

@Fundamentalist however says we should not use SALATUL-FATIHI because it was not practice by the prophet(SAW) or his companions and solatul-Ibrahimiyyah is best for us. Hence, tagged SALATUL-FATIHI as innovation.

I always heard that islam is completed, that it doesnt need to add more to it ~Q5:3. One thing that is very clear is that the SALATUL-FATIHI was introduced 1,100year after the demise of the prophet(SAW). If i get @AlBaqir right, Allah will forgive those that doesnt recite SALATUL-FATIHI because It was an updates, like Allah the most High just updated it through the sheikh that introduce it, and we that witness it must recite it.

No doubt! an update is good, infact! Sheikh faroq onikijipa gives another update that reciting SALATUL-FATIHI is more greater than observing solat and i have the video. one can simply wakes up and do it around fajr time and just read one and sleep back, invariably we can just downgrade solat and use SALATUL-FATIHI instead because the update is fine by us.

ehn! You cant object it! if you overruled the above statement, then the rest of this topic is meaningless.

Update is good, infact, you see automation industry like benz, we have benz 230 in 1990s and it cant be use anymore, so there was update such as benz GL350, GL450 which you will be marvelous about the updates and changes.

And in Christianity, there is update as well, that's why we have different bible according to batch of updates.

By updating our islam, below are the latest update:
* SALATUL-FATIHI should be authenticated and cancel solatul-Ibrahimiyyah. version 1: by our noble sheikh Ahmad Tijani
* SALATUL-FATIHI should be recited instead of observing 5 daily solat. version 1.5: by our noble sheikh farouq onikijipa

These are current versioning that i know, someone can just create a github repository for latest updates and versioning.

My dear comrades, innovation can never be best option.

and Allah knows best

it is unfortunate that your misconstrued everything. I just don't understand you people. Can you quote where Albaqir said solati Ibrahimiya should no longer be recited again?. Am I missing that?.

As for Sheikh Onikijika statement, this was explained over and over by several people. Please stop taking words out without understanding. I know Onikijika can be controversial sometimes. Now mufty of Yorùbáland, I'm sure you eschews some controversial topics now.

So to clarify, Sheikh Onikijika never meant solati fatih replaced obligatory Salat. It will be very important to reach out to him to explain to you before posting comment here. It was not only him that clarified himself. Others who understood him did as well.

As for bidia itself, no one is safe from it. Whether we like it or not bidia is divided into two. Even in Mecca they do the bidia. Qunut they recite in Ramadan, 20 rakat in Ramadan etc.. Did prophet muhammad do that?.

So reciting solati fatih is optional. If you want recite it. If you don't want leave it.

AlBaqir:


# Don't you know Salat Ibrahimiyah is going to be a Hujjat against you on the day of Qiyamat ni?

* In the Salat, you are asking Allah (via Prophet's command) to grant Muhammad and his ahl al-bayt the exact salat (praise) and Barakat (blessings) He has given to Ibrahim and ahl al-bayt of Ibrahim.

* If you are one of those that read the meaning of Quran, you will easily read that:

1. Allah preferred and choose Ibrahim and his righteous children above mankind [surah Ahli Imran: 33 - 34]

2. Allah made Ibrahim and the righteous children Imam over mankind. [surah al-Baqara: 124]

3. Allah grant Ibrahim and his children exclusive wisdom, book and kingdom (rulership) [surah an-Nisa: 54]


# Those three highlights (and more) are what you continue "seeking" for Nabi Muhammad and his children. Those were what the righteous sahabah (not the criminals among them o) also sought for.

- Now the question is, does the prayer accepted or not?

- Do you regard the Children of Muhammad as preferred and the chosen ones above mankind?

- Do you regard them as Allah's appointed Aimma (Imams) over mankind?

- Do you regard them as the most knowledgeable of the books of Allah and right owners of the great kingdom?


# This defeat your stubborn Sunni fundamental ideology. My advice is that you should abandon salat Ibrahimiyah and embrace salat fatih jéjély otherwise the former will stand against you in Qiyamat o

Here is it bro @Empire

Empiree:
it is unfortunate that your misconstrued everything. I just don't understand you people. Can you quote where Albaqir said solati Ibrahimiya should no longer be recited again?. Am I missing that?.

As for Sheikh Onikijika statement, this was explained over and over by several people. Please stop taking words out without understanding. I know Onikijika can be controversial sometimes. Now mufty of Yorùbáland, I'm sure you eschews some controversial topics now.

So to clarify, Sheikh Onikijika never meant solati fatih replaced obligatory Salat. It will be very important to reach out to him to explain to you before posting comment here. It was not only him that clarified himself. Others who understood him did as well.

As for bidia itself, no one is safe from it. Whether we like it or not bidia is divided into two. Even in Mecca they do the bidia. Qunut they recite in Ramadan, 20 rakat in Ramadan etc.. Did prophet muhammad do that?.

So reciting solati fatih is optional. If you want recite it. If you don't want leave it.

Same nonsense as always

Fundamentalist:


Same nonsense as always

nonsense?. Anobi Muhammad (saw) was asked what is Islam?. He answered

Islam is based in 5 tenets

Kalimatu shahada
Salat
Ramadan
Zakat
Hajj


E da kun. Where is solati fatih, solati Ibrahimiya in this?. Islam is complete means those 5 mentioned above. That's Islam. Solati Ibrahimiya itself is optional for Muslims.

Secondly, as much as I don't have to defend others, I think the brother was wrong about albaqir. He said what he didn't say fa. I'm only waiting for him to quote where Albaqir said solati Ibrahimiya should be dropped.

Iktilaf like this should not be cause for schism. Let this thread rest. Ain't going back to back and forth.

Empiree:
nonsense?. Anobi Muhammad (saw) was asked what is Islam?. He answered

Islam is based in 5 tenets

Kalimatu shahada
Salat
Ramadan
Zakat
Hajj


E da kun. Where is solati fatih, solati Ibrahimiya in this?. Islam is complete means those 5 mentioned above. That's Islam. Solati Ibrahimiya itself is optional for Muslims.

Secondly, as much as I don't have to defend others, I think the brother was wrong and albaqir. He said what he didn't say fa. I'm only waiting for him to quote where Albaqir said solati Ibrahimiya should be dropped.

Iktilaf like this should not be cause for schism. Let this thread rest. Aunt going back to back and forth.

Just to educate you on salat. If you don't recite salatul ibrahimmiya during tashahud your salat is incomplete. That's to tell you how important it is to that fake and 419 salatul fathi. That's what's recorded in hadiths and ways of the companions.

Fundamentalist:


Just to educate you on salat. If you don't recite salatul ibrahimmiya during tashahud your salat is incomplete. That's to tell you how important it is to that fake and 419 salatul fathi. That's what's recorded in hadiths and ways of the companions.

solati Ibrahimiya mandatory in Salat?. Salat is invalid if solati Ibrahimiya is skipped?. Who is your mentor?.

See daylight robbery. I guess you want to implement your own fatwa?.

Empiree:
solati Ibrahimiya mandatory in Salat?. Salat is invalid if solati Ibrahimiya is skipped?. Who is your mentor?.

See daylight robbery. I guess you want to implement your own fatwa?.

You object that? Another update of Islam from your end.

Ibroh24:


You object that? Another update of Islam from your end.

I just don't understand what you just said

Fundamentalist:


Just to educate you on salat. If you don't recite salatul ibrahimmiya during tashahud your salat is incomplete. That's to tell you how important it is to that fake and 419 salatul fathi. That's what's recorded in hadiths and ways of the companions.

On the bolded, don't mislead people please. Salatul ibrahimmiya is not COMPULSORY and not reciting it can't invalidate someone's Salat

Tessyy1701:



On the bolded, don't mislead people please. Salatul ibrahimmiya is not COMPULSORY and not reciting it can't invalidate someone's Salat

Do you mind him?. Arrogance is his second name. You seen how he said solati fatih is 419. He has no tolerance for difference of opinion.