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McLizbae:


Makes no sense. How do you know how to build and not how to merely repair?

Build...as in analyzing a given problem (within the mechanical engineering field) and creating a design that can solve that problem optimally.
That is different from understanding exactly what stops another person's design from working optimally, and how to fix it (repair).
The technicians (mechanics) are trained on how to repair. The engineers will require the same training if fixing cars is what they want to do.

....the kin training wey den get na to look for employment and secondly, our banks ready to charge 3 digits interest rate...FIR/LGA no know newbies... government no fit manage exchange rate...our ports block pass Lagos canals... Taskforce wan collect their daily pay ...den nor get patient to learn well...den wan hammer quick quick...

Nigerians think Mechanical engineering begins and ends with fixing cars and generators.

Lordbinsmar:


Mr Sadi Carnot, best mechanical engineer of all time. Please speak for yourself.

Only an ignorant will expect a trained mechanical engineer to start up a mechanic work shop after graduation.

Even in advance country, mechanical engineers design and build machines not fixing it.

Moreover automobile engineering is just an offshoot of mechanical engineering.

I studied mechanical engineering and my interest is in heat transfer optimization and computational fluid dynamics.

It's no crime if I don't know how to repair Jack.

But Ignoramus plenty for nairaland oo.

Even person wey go poly dey call themselves engineers

You way go Uni, are you an Engineer? It’s funny how you are trying to bring down a group of people without understanding how the profession works. A B.eng or HND graduate isn’t an Engineer! At best you’re an Engineering graduate.

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Sorry to say, Poly graduates aren't actually Engineers (in Nigeria sha). There's a reason why their departments are called "[b]Department of Mechanical Engineering Technology". E get why.


This information is misleading. As at today, aside the relevant engineering experience, all an HND holder needs to become licensed as an Engineer is a one year PGD in the same field.

RolexOfGeneva:
Stop arguing. That guy is right.
Scientist develop an idea. Engineers build the idea. Technicians repair.
That's is the main difference between engineers and technicians.

Your writing nonsense, nothing prevents an engineer from having a workshop

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You're an ignorant foool, getat with your stupidity

seunny4lif:
People that can’t change ordinary tyre of their own cars, you want them to open shops
Same reason Electrical/Electronics engineering students can’t even fix electric bulb

Omo, my cousin actually lived up to this. He graduated second upper in Electrical & Electronics engineering. We had a gig at home and there was a need to hang lights under the canopy. Long matter short, it was a normal electrician that came to help us. I asked him, guy, you see why u cant be insulting lawyers? we are the only ones that get called to bar by 9am and by 9.15am you can be making money either through charge and bail or selling and documenting properties. I want to ship him abroad as he is not even adding value to himself, let alone anyone else. Another cousin of mine fell out with his lecturer when he suggested that why not teach them simple items like production of pins instead of basics of a jet engine.

Our education curriculum is just warped.

Nicepoker:
See ignorance in HD.

Your mama toto is the ignorant olosho here

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

OP, Sense far from you.

They were not trained to repair, they were trained to be designers.

You insult our qualified engineers by wanting them to be repair men and it's the same thing all over the world

stuffs4me:



Sense far from you.


They were not trained to repair, they were trained to be designers.

You insult our qualified engineers by wanting them to be repaire men and it's the same thing all over the world

Sense of far from your useless harlot mother , stupid boy

Nozino:
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You way go Uni, are you an Engineer? It’s funny how you are trying to bring down a group of people without understanding how the profession works. A B.eng or HND graduate isn’t an Engineer! At best you’re an Engineering graduate.

I'm not downgrading any certificate here, don't misquote me.

I am trying to show hierarchy in the engineering profession.

A graduate with hnd is trained to be an engineering technologist not an engineer.

But people confuse them with a university graduate. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but the objective of their curriculum is different. I come in peace.

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Thank God you agree they need one year PGD studies. How then is it misleading?

It's only here we don't understand the importance of technologists in the engineering family.

HND holders are engineering technologists right? How then is my post misleading na?

DaveDGreat:


Baba Agba. Thermodynamics wey do us shege that year na where you wan dey venture

I be small boy oo, but thermodynamics no to hard for my school oo.

May be I have natural affinity for that field.
I feel in love with thermal optimization in through my thermo and heat transfer courses, computational fluid dynamics through final year project.

Lordbinsmar:


I be small boy oo, but thermodynamics no to hard for my school oo.

May be I have natural affinity for that field.
I feel in love with thermal optimization in through my thermo and heat transfer courses, computational fluid dynamics through final year project.

Omo that Thermo no be person mate ooo. You're doing well. Kudos.

The love of tie and AC.

They are good with Suit and Tie

hardbody:


Omo, my cousin actually lived up to this. He graduated second upper in Electrical & Electronics engineering. We had a gig at home and there was a need to hang lights under the canopy. Long matter short, it was a normal electrician that came to help us. I asked him, guy, you see why u cant be insulting lawyers? we are the only ones that get called to bar by 9am and by 9.15am you can be making money either through charge and bail or selling and documenting properties. I want to ship him abroad as he is not even adding value to himself, let alone anyone else. Another cousin of mine fell out with his lecturer when he suggested that why not teach them simple items like production of pins instead of basics of a jet engine.

Our education curriculum is just warped.

Op simple research via Google would have save you from exposing your ignorance. Mechanical engineering is as wide as the universe! Automobile engineering is just a microcosm of the whole idea of mechanical. From your house, to household items, to your clothes, etc, in short, the basic things you see and do not see in life has a touch of mechanical engineering ; Before you begin to talk about complexities in mechanics, kinematics, static, aero and fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, cryogenics, energies, manufacturings, vibrations, automations etc.

As a mechanical engineer which am proud of, there's no way you can cover all areas but the most important thing is that they all have and operate on the same principles. I might not be into automobiles, but if a road side mechanic is doing the wrong/right thing, damn I will know.
In my area of expertise: trouble shoot, diagnose and fix problems, fabricate, modify, enhance some of the equipment parts of a complex machine only found in three countries in Africa, some top EU countries, US, two in South America and very few in Asia.

Same mechanical engineering but different practice. I can't be automobile engineer or aeronautics engineer etc

The point is that the OP and others like him and many Nigerians are ignorant and poorly educated about who Mechanical Engineers are. There is no where in the world where mechanical engineers does the job of an automobile technician. The automobile aspect is just a fragmental part of what mechanical engineers are taught in school. Nevertheless, a mechanical engineer who desire to be an auto repairer will have to go and be trained to do so. They are two different disciplines.
Have the op wondered why a Medical doctor cannot open a psychiatric clinic? Is a medical doctor a psychiatrist? Your answer will tell you why a mechanical engineer cannot open an automobile workshop.
The Mechanical Engineers are behind the design of those automobiles, they are behind the design of the moving parts, they are behind the design of the mechanism and the fluid flow in a car BUT not behind repairs of any broken down autos, thats another field entirely which is Automobile and there are institutions in Nigeria who offers the course.

Chai! This thread underlines the arrogant ignorance of a typical Nigerian again, fact don't matter

moneylords:
The point is that the OP and others like him and many Nigerians are ignorant and poorly educated about who Mechanical Engineers are. There is no where in the world where mechanical engineers does the job of an automobile technician. The automobile aspect is just a fragmental part of what mechanical engineers are taught in school. Nevertheless, a mechanical engineer who desire to be an auto repairer will have to go and be trained to do so. They are two different disciplines.
Have the op wondered why a Medical doctor cannot open a psychiatric clinic? Is a medical doctor a psychiatrist? Your answer will tell you why a mechanical engineer cannot open an automobile workshop.
The Mechanical Engineers are behind the design of those automobiles, they are behind the design of the moving parts, they are behind the design of the mechanism and the fluid flow in a car BUT not behind repairs of any broken down autos, thats another field entirely which is Automobile and there are institutions in Nigeria who offers the course.

Stop wasting your time. We are who we are and you see the result everywhere

moneylords:
The point is that the OP and others like him and many Nigerians are ignorant and poorly educated about who Mechanical Engineers are. There is no where in the world where mechanical engineers does the job of an automobile technician. The automobile aspect is just a fragmental part of what mechanical engineers are taught in school. Nevertheless, a mechanical engineer who desire to be an auto repairer will have to go and be trained to do so. They are two different disciplines.
Have the op wondered why a Medical doctor cannot open a psychiatric clinic? Is a medical doctor a psychiatrist? Your answer will tell you why a mechanical engineer cannot open an automobile workshop.
The Mechanical Engineers are behind the design of those automobiles, they are behind the design of the moving parts, they are behind the design of the mechanism and the fluid flow in a car BUT not behind repairs of any broken down autos, thats another field entirely which is Automobile and there are institutions in Nigeria who offers the course.

Thank you. It is good people are enlighten. Even the automobile engineering has other branches.

Rollitout:
And why don't Chemical Engineers set out a Chemical workshop?

That's true, they should be the ones charging our car batteries for better output, adherence to quality, corrosion prevention and safety. Even our cooking gas should be refilled and repaired by graduate chemical engineers, also the petrol stations should be manned by chemical engineers while mechanical engineers repair the nozzles and any hydraulic appliance out there. You understand Nigerians well well

Road side Machine no go give Graduate Machine respect

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

according to Wikipedia, Mechanical engineering is a branch of engineering that applies the principles of Mechanics and Materials science for analysis, design, manufacturing, and maintenance of mechanical systems. It involves the production and usage of heat and mechanical power for the design, production, and operation of machines and tools. Try to study what mechanical engineering entails, when you are don studying, then we can have this argument. If all mechanical engineer take up the work of a technician, then who will maintain mechanical systems for the factories and companies in Nigeria, who will design machine systems, who will maintain companies boilers etc

Awkabigboy:

Your writing nonsense, nothing prevents an engineer from having a workshop

Instead of you to appreciate something you have been taught, which you obviously had no idea of, you are busy running your mouth.
It's people like you that can even argue with the professor teaching you in school.
What is an engineer's business in repairs? Read the article on the link below and learn(especially the last paragraph)
https://amp.interestingengineering.com/whats-the-difference-between-an-engineer-and-a-technician-anyway

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

To answer your questions. Try to know that mechanical engineering student are based on the following important department: manufacturing engineering which can produce any thing in existence, management engineering which is the spirit of engineering technology ( this part is the real success that engineering technology archive success story, from production analysis to cost to packaging, finishing and many more of management and laws of the land and also law that regularise every product), and finally maintenance engineering which is the part you are referring to as mechanic and any thing concerning replacement or corrections or renewal or rebuilding. They are under maintenance engineering. Nigeria with their thinking faculty believe that mechanical engineering is all about mechanic mentality.

flexyrule:
You know exactly what the OP is trying to say.

The Mechanic shop narrative being adopted here is just a way of minimizing the subject matter to automobile repairs.

What the OP meant is, why don't Mechanical Engineering graduates venture into private practice after graduation.

And the answer is because the academic system here doesn't prepare us for that.

Period!

then why did the academic system provides room for siwes and IT

I'm sorry if you feel pained... Don't get hurt on this little discussion.. What I meant was that Mechanical engineering graduates know more of the theory aspect of this course in school.. that's why you can't see them set up their own mechanical workshops apart from other factors...

deepwater:


IGNORANCE will not kill u IJN

there is a big difference between ENGINEERING and tradesman / technician

Siwes or IT is just within a space of 6 months. So tell me is that period enough for productive learning?

Lekan239:
then why did the academic system provides room for siwes and IT