Awkabigboy:

So who now repairs , see logic, how can you build what you cant repair, what about those kia, Toyota and mitsubishi engineers that repair

mechanical technicians repair not engineers. I am a mechanical engineer with defense industry corporation of Nigeria. We design and pass over to technician to fabricate. What mechanics do is just buy and replace bad parts. If the resources are available government is serious we can design and make our cars and other machines here

Engineering as practiced in Nigeria has a family which comprises of Artisan, technician , technologist and Engineer , they all have their job description well defined...
Moreover a Mechanical Engineer is different from a mechanic ,you can fully discuss Mechanic and automobile engineer ,why do you think some schools such as Kaduna Polytechnic has Mechanical Engineering Department and also Automobile Engineering Department ,they aren't same , although as a mechanical engineer you are expected to know some aspect of automobile , but on a large scale Mechanical Engineering includes Power plant/Energy system ,Fluids Mechanics , materials , production/Manufacturing ,Heat Transfer system , Designs , thermodynamics systems and controls... Plumbing to a large extent is Mechanical (Piping ,valves and actuators).
Specialization is the beauty of Engineering...

The simple reason is because you don't fix cars by solving mathematical equations. I am a mechanical engineer but everything i know and can do about cars today I learnt after school.

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Mechanical engineers were trained on "first principles". That is: the basic of everything mechanical which includes mechanics, fluids, heat, design, maintenance, etc.
That is why engineering courses are more of calculation and reasoning which they believe are needed to enable you have indept knowledge of the field.
I can bet that some mechanics don't know the reason why the engine block of a motorcycle has extended surface while that of motor vehicle doesn't.
There is difference between a vehicle mechanic and mechanical engineer.
As a vehicle mechanic, you learn the skills involved in repairing vehicles only. A skill is learnt by doing certain things continuously.
On the other way, a mechanical engineer studied the science and technology involved in producing and maintaining the vehicle. He may not necessarily have learnt the skills of maintaining the vehicle.

This Post stings of ignorance, however I don’t blame the OP only, I blame the moderator that moved this to front page.

This was my dream. Combine a degree course in mechanical engineering specialising in Auto with an apprenticeship in a local workshop. Money enter I forget the dream �

Mechanical Engineering is not the same as Auto Mechanics. A mechanical Engineer has no business repairing cars.

CyberHustle:
Mechanical engineering is simply centered around the design of mechanical systems. It isn't equal to mechanical technician role. People erroneously equate engineers to technician's. Also, roadside mechanics or technicians workshop can be financially tasking to properly setup and master it's use.

This is from a Google search on "engineers vs technicians".

Not really. In this case an Auto Mechanic is the man who has the capapabilities to get the job done, not a Technician Whose speciality is typically fixing technical tools/equipments and lab engines.

It is obvious you have a limited understanding of what mechanical engineering is all about, meanwhile there's a difference between automobile engineering, a mechanical engineering graduate can go into mechanical design, maintenance and repairs,HVAC,Process piping and mechanical installation these are the guys that end up becoming project engineers, so a mechanical engineer is different from an auto mechanic technician

Awkabigboy:

So who now repairs , see logic, how can you build what you cant repair, what about those kia, Toyota and mitsubishi engineers that repair

Bro please I'm an engineer (not mechanical though) but I can tell that you're mixing things up.

In the engineering family, there are engineers, engineering technologists, engineering technicians, artisans and craftsmen

Engineers aren't basically meant to "repair" as you think. They are meant to design, invent, build and manage resources with respect to cost, consumer preference(s), the environment, etc.

We have technologists and technicians and all the curriculums are different.

Although I agree with you that they should have hands-on knowledge but they aren't specifically meant to repair. Technologists and technicians can do that.

Engineering is broad oooo

Nawa oh for the OP
Because someone study mechanical engineering and you think the person should go and open workshop?
If you have any clue about mechanical engineering you will know they have different options of mechanical. They have power plant, manufacturing, automotive, Biomedical and Engineering Fluid Mechanics,Combustion and the Environment,Ground Vehicle Systems,Heat Transfer, Thermodynamics and Energy Systems,Mechanical Design,System Dynamics and Control , Transportation Systems etc.
Does it mean someone that study mechanical design should go and open workshop?

davillian:

You just read and read
What ever course you read in school when you get a job you get trained on it wether it's your line or not

Then go and join one shop at Owode to get trained my friend and stop whinning.

Simply because it's not their job - that's for the Auto mechanic to do.

airsaylongcome:


The calculations in determining engine displacement can a mechanic do that? When a mechanical design fails will you hold a mechanic responsible?

You dey mind am?

Mechanical Engineering transcends beyond just being a "Mechanic in a vehicle workshop" but you, OP, like every ignorant Nigerian who has never taken a course in engineering, can never know that. Just the same way Nigerians think Electrical engineering is all about climbing NEPA poles and disconnecting electricity! The ignorance is nauseating!

University Mechanical Engineer or Polytechnic Mechanical Engineers?

Lordbinsmar:


Mr Sadi Carnot, best mechanical engineer of all time. Please speak for yourself.

Only an ignorant will expect a trained mechanical engineer to start up a mechanic work shop after graduation.

Even in advance country, mechanical engineers design and build machines not fixing it.

Moreover automobile engineering is just an offshoot of mechanical engineering.

I studied mechanical engineering and my interest is in heat transfer optimization and computational fluid dynamics.

It's no crime if I don't know how to repair Jack.

But Ignoramus plenty for nairaland oo.

Even person wey go poly dey call themselves engineers

Baba Agba. Thermodynamics wey do us shege that year na where you wan dey venture

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

A mechanical engineer can design and build a car that will work. But he may not be able to repair it if it breaks down. Because repairs require experience; something engineers have to earn not learn.

Blackman101:
University Mechanical Engineer or Polytechnic Mechanical Engineers?

Sorry to say, Poly graduates aren't actually Engineers (in Nigeria sha). There's a reason why their departments are called "Department of Mechanical Engineering Technology". E get why.










Make nobody quote me on this. I never chop since morning and I no get strength abeg

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There are no top-tier companies where they can do the practicals to get the experience.

They only know the theories of concepts they barely understand. I wish they teach Engineering in our local languages.

Japan, China, Russia and other global powers in Engineering teach these sciences in their local languages and yet excel.

Besides, Nigerian graduates only take glory on the paper certificates for the titles. Don't address them as Engineers and they
will wrestle you to the ground. It is ego before the knowledge.

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Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

they believe 75% fantasy of working in the office

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I am not an Engineer but I know for sure that this your post is just a display of ignorance. A mechanic engineer is not a technician, he is not trained to do manual repairs. I don't know anywhere in the world where trained engineers do repairs. That's the work of technicians, technical assistants etc. Mech engineers design products and develop testing processes, maintenance procedures etc. At least you can use Google to learn first.....

I remember in my faculty the mechanical engineering student were given a generator to assemble back, they have to go hire one small under 10 year roadside mechanicbwho fixed it under 10 minutes. Come see shame

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

There are some automobile workshops in ibadan owned my mechanical engineers who studied the course and are practicing it. I have heard about an automobile worksop owned by a mechanical engineer in lagos, He even went to Germany to learn more about how to fix German cars effectively. Most of this workshops train, repair, and also diagnose automobiles �... i fit drop their names for you to find out about them,but na only the ones for ibadan I fit ooo.

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

Mechanical Engineers are not trained to work as Mechanics!
Mechanical Engineers are not trained to work as Mechanics
Mechanical Engineers are not trained to work as Mechanics!

Know this and know peace bro.

Back to your post.

Mechanical Engineering graduates is more than what you just described. It is synonymous to saying why aren't all Agricultural Engineers tractor drivers or Electrical Engineers Electricians? I understand where youre coming from but look at the AC system that cools you at the mall, Airport lounge and massive halls, that'san example of what a Mechanical engineer can do.
Furthermore, in the design of parts, systems and components of any machinery-automobile or earth moving, the mechanical engineer is well trained to take up the job.
What they are trained for is way more than what you described -In fact design of complex machine systems, process engineering and machine element optimization are some of the roles of the Mechanical Engineers. Engineers are highest up in the chain of engineering profession.



Let me shock you- there are mechanical engineers in the workshop as I speak but the big question is can many people afford their services? I Imagine walking into a garage owned by an Engineer and before he touches your car, he asks you to register it with 50K, cost of diagnosis,-50k and you spend close to 400-500K on what you would spend lesser outside- at a premium service Where will you go next time?
Definitely anywhere else but there

So when we look for cheap things, we shouldn't complain of the quality of service

Any body can go into this without necessarily needing to be a mechanical engineer.

Awkabigboy:
I mean the mechanics in Nigeria are mainly the informal ones except the car companies which I'm not writing about here. I mean our everyday mechanics are not mechanical engineers by profession , then why are certified mechanical engineers shying away from this lucrative sector to give the people what they indeed require.

Engineering degrees are usually designed and analytic focus and train you to be competent analytical problem solvers. Mechanical workshops are usually operated by technicians e.g people with technical certificates and diplomas.

No vision!

flexyrule:
This is exactly what Nigerian trained Engineers are good at.

You can't give what you don't have.

It is better acknowledging the fact that our educational system didn't prepare us enough in the area of hands-on experience as compared to our contemporaries abroad.

Engineers by training do design. That's the work of an engineer. You can find the curriculum of any school in the world including MIT and Harvard and it would be 80% similar to that of Nigerian schools with the difference being in the elective courses.

If you want hands-on experience, go to a technical school.

hansomb:
I remember in my faculty the mechanical engineering student were given a generator to assemble back, they have to go hire one small under 10 year roadside mechanicbwho fixed it under 10 minutes. Come see shame

Lol. That has made him a better engineer than them, has it?
Those students only need to see how it's done 2 or 3 times and they'll get the hang of it.

Biodun556:

Technicians repair engineers build.

We should review our curriculum to accommodate the two.


It may be difficult to repair something not built by you even the roadside mechanics specalized on a type of vehicle. Some specialized on Japanese cars, while some will tell you they only repair Honda.

I have seen a mechanic that only repair vehicle breaks.

Some are based on truck alone. We should stop under rating our mechanical engineers

How can you not repair something you build?

This your logic get serious K-Leg o!

Awkabigboy:

So who now repairs , see logic, how can you build what you cant repair, what about those kia, Toyota and mitsubishi engineers that repair

Stop arguing. That guy is right.
Scientist develop an idea. Engineers build the idea. Technicians repair.
That's is the main difference between engineers and technicians.