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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 12:14pm On Dec 17, 2021
drDoom3:


This is one of the major reasons Africa is the gutter of the world today... A certain victim mentality that is a combination of envy, ignorance and self-indulgence.

You really think Europeans are planning a global football conspiracy to take over african football and make us bow to their will? That they engineered a conspiracy of a new global coronavirus strain killing thousands of people just to give them an excuse to stop the mighty AFCON?

For your point about the Euros and so on, if we held our great and mighty AFCON when Euros and the rest were held, would there have been any fuss? The child who does not eat when others are eating should not complain when no food is left for him.

Leave him, let him yarn his dust

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 12:17pm On Dec 17, 2021
daveP:



Eguavoen says only 5new players will be joining the old team.


Who are these 5new?

Guess?


Nwakali
That u20 striker
Rabiu Ali
Then two other carpenters from the npfl

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 12:20pm On Dec 17, 2021
Danielnino00:


You really need to learn how to stick to conversations and stop twisting words..
I never said anything about a conspiracy or take over.. Stop twisting words!

For many decades now, African players have become important members of many European clubs. Key players... Players that they depend on..
When AFCON is around the corner, they risk losing those players..
There's hardly any AFCON tournament approaching where you won't hear of clubs complaining about it..Klopp's remark about the tournament was just the latest one...
It has been happening for long, and covid-19 has provided the perfect opportunity for the European clubs to finally get one over CAF.

In case you don't know, the European club association has written to FIFA to postpone the tournament due to the pandemic..
The same ECA complained several times when FIFA moved the world cup to Qatar...

It has nothing to do with conspiracy...It's just the selfishness of the European clubs at play..

That's because the tournament keep coming up when this clubs needs "their players" the most, what complain did they lay when it was played in egypt during summer?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:26pm On Dec 17, 2021
temi1290:


That's because the tournament keep coming up when this clubs needs "their players" the most, what complain did they lay when it was played in egypt during summer?

Not really. Afcon historically has always been in January. The difference now is many European clubs now depend on quite a lot of African players.

Africa shouldn't have to bend. The timing is in itself part of hour history. FIFA should either declare every January that AFCON holds an international break, or clubs should just get used to this. If the date should change it should be because Africa wants to not because we are bending over backwards to suit their needs

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 12:55pm On Dec 17, 2021
komekn:


My deductions are not ASSUMPTIVE but from painstaking meditation ,study, revelation and engagements with many so called " Men of God" who seek to distort, decieve and burden.

As a starter read the true Apostle 2 Corinthians 11.

I end the matter here.
Thank you ArchAngel Komekn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:11pm On Dec 17, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Ramsdale isn’t overhyped

Okoye will only be a 3rd choice at arsenal at best

He is not better than ramsdale or Leno

Ramsdale is absolutely overhyped. Everything he's doing now, Leno did and more.
But media are rating him as the second coming of Van Der Saar.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:15pm On Dec 17, 2021
MetalJigsaw:
what's the point of this post? Stop wasting spaces...

Anyway , anyone interested in our Beer party at blue spot Café here in Lagos?

The point was seeking feedbacks.

You could have advertised your beer party without being rude, because my post has more to do with this thread than your beer party post.

Sometimes, going out of your way to be rude and dismissive to people is terrible behaviour.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:19pm On Dec 17, 2021
Danielnino00:


You really need to learn how to stick to conversations and stop twisting words..
I never said anything about a conspiracy or take over.. Stop twisting words!

For many decades now, African players have become important members of many European clubs. Key players... Players that they depend on..
When AFCON is around the corner, they risk losing those players..
There's hardly any AFCON tournament approaching where you won't hear of clubs complaining about it..Klopp's remark about the tournament was just the latest one...
It has been happening for long, and covid-19 has provided the perfect opportunity for the European clubs to finally get one over CAF.

In case you don't know, the European club association has written to FIFA to postpone the tournament due to the pandemic..
The same ECA complained several times when FIFA moved the world cup to Qatar...

It has nothing to do with conspiracy...It's just the selfishness of the European clubs at play..

It really is the selfishness of European Clubs.

Europe has two whole continental competitions in the Euros and the Nations League that affect Players fitness in the long run, but does anyone complain about it?

I read that European players will have only one month of rest in 2022 because they have to play the World Cup and the. Nations League in the same year, aside club football. That is two international tournaments in one year, and there is barely any spacing between them. That is risking burn out and even health complications, but does Europe care?

It is when CAF wants to do our competition that Europe will remember the risk of players injuries and other such idiocies.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:34pm On Dec 17, 2021
drDoom3:


Guy is 22... Or do you expect him to be posting words of wisdom of an elderly person? Abeg face front.

But he is also a public figure that requires huge amounts of maturity. This comes first before age consideration.

How old were Foden and Greenwood when they were exiled from the national team for sleeping with prostitutes?

Grealish who is a grown man was some weeks ago ostracised by Guardiola for some matches for keeping multiple women.

You saw how the world and PSG reacted some weeks back when Icardi appeared to be cheating on his girlfriend.

Rashford was the same 22 years of age last year when he was awarded an MBE by England for help rendered to society, yet Solskjaer still criticized him for not focusing on football.

This is not hip-hop where sex is glorified, this is a corporate job. What you can't do or say in an interview, should never be said anywhere.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:41pm On Dec 17, 2021
drDoom3:
Iwobi just destroyed a perfect counter attack by refusing to play a simple pass to Doucoure to set up a one-on-one. He had at least five seconds to pick the pass and still messed it up.

I still think Aribo is a better passer than Iwobi, and Aribo should be tried as a 10 in place of Iwobi with Onyeka and Ndidi behind him.

If Everton had lost that game Iwobi's career would have ended on twitter.

Alongside Doucoure and Keane, he was the most senior outfield player in that Everton lineup, yet he failed to take responsibility for attacks.

As a senior player, demand the ball and let every attack go through you, but he timidly left that to young Anthony Gordon.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 1:50pm On Dec 17, 2021
lovewins:


Not really. Afcon historically has always been in January. The difference now is many European clubs now depend on quite a lot of African players.

Africa shouldn't have to bend. The timing is in itself part of hour history. FIFA should either declare every January that AFCON holds an international break, or clubs should just get used to this. If the date should change it should be because Africa wants to not because we are bending over backwards to suit their needs

Do you realize the players themselves are also affected
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 1:51pm On Dec 17, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


But he is also a public figure that requires huge amounts of maturity. This comes first before age consideration.

How old were Foden and Greenwood when they were exiled from the national team for sleeping with prostitutes?

Grealish who is a grown man was some weeks ago ostracised by Guardiola for some matches for keeping multiple women.

You saw how the world and PSG reacted some weeks back when Icardi appeared to be cheating on his girlfriend.

Rashford was the same 22 years of age last year when he was awarded an MBE by England for help rendered to society, yet Solskjaer still criticized him for not focusing on football.

This is not hip-hop where sex is glorified, this is a corporate job. What you can't do or say in an interview, should never be said anywhere.

So you are comparing posting memes online to carrying prostitutes, which is not only frowned upon by society in general but can be detrimental to your health because of risk of contracting STDs

So posting memes is a very big crime and offense that can be compared to something as huge as that

Interesting. grin

Also football is not a corporate job. It's an entertainment industry just like hip hop. Carry your seriousness and shift

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:54pm On Dec 17, 2021
12large1:


Once again, Nigerians trying to allow the European narratives to dictate our players. The iwobi of Nigeria playing at his best position is a much productive than the iwobi of Everton

If you don't criticize players when they underperform how do they know they need to improve.

There's nothing like best position with Iwobi even he doesn't know his best position.

When Ancelotti was manager, Iwobi complained on Instagram that he wasn't being played in his best position. Ancelotti got upset that Iwobi did not tell him personally and offered to play Iwobi in the 10 role.

"If he (Iwobi) wants to play number 10 or number nine I'll put him there, no problem. I can adapt the system."

After Ancelotti left Everton, Iwobi changed his best position to winger.

https://www.goal.com/en-gh/amp/news/iwobi-reveals-his-best-positions-for-everton-and-nigeria/k47g49vbr9hx1nh2cxufttkmf

So the best position excuse is now stale. If Iwobi is underperforming, criticize him constructively the same way you will praise if he is doing well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 1:56pm On Dec 17, 2021
Ok Rorh we hope nff makes necessary adjustments wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 1:59pm On Dec 17, 2021
temi1290:


Do you realize the players themselves are also affected

That's a whole different conversation. The crux of our discuss has been how Europeans have tried to influence the timing of AFCON.

The players are Africans and have the right to express their displeasure about the timing, none has so far (at least openly).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:05pm On Dec 17, 2021
yinkeys:

Lol you watched the game yesterday
Alex is better than this
Give him time, this was as a result of minimal to no playing time Benitez gives him.
He’s rusty, I’ve seen this happen to Ndidi before

Only three forwards have played more minutes for Everton than Iwobi this season. He has played 2 more games than one of those forwards.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:11pm On Dec 17, 2021
temi1290:


Summer when club football was on break, that's the difference

But the pandemic was still there, wasn't it?

It's been established already that Africa can't host AFCON in the summer due to weather conditions..

Only a few countries can...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:13pm On Dec 17, 2021
yinkeys:

Lol you watched the game yesterday
Alex is better than this
Give him time, this was as a result of minimal to no playing time Benitez gives him.
He’s rusty, I’ve seen this happen to Ndidi before


Please, Iwobi has had ample opportunities to prove his mettle , yet nothing to show. But some strange people want to disrespect Nwakali who has been playing bagging positive reviews.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:13pm On Dec 17, 2021
temi1290:


That's because the tournament keep coming up when this clubs needs "their players" the most, what complain did they lay when it was played in egypt during summer?


AFCON has always been held in January.. And European clubs have always complained about it...

Seems like you won't mind the idea of AFCON being hosted in summer when rainfall is at its peak and the possibility of enjoying the tournament is low..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:14pm On Dec 17, 2021
Super Eagles camp open in Uyo December 28th.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:18pm On Dec 17, 2021
safarigirl:


It really is the selfishness of European Clubs.

Europe has two whole continental competitions in the Euros and the Nations League that affect Players fitness in the long run, but does anyone complain about it?

I read that European players will have only one month of rest in 2022 because they have to play the World Cup and the. Nations League in the same year, aside club football. That is two international tournaments in one year, and there is barely any spacing between them. That is risking burn out and even health complications, but does Europe care?

It is when CAF wants to do our competition that Europe will remember the risk of players injuries and other such idiocies.

While most African teams have one or two games during the international break, European countries mostly play 3... Even in South America,it's 3... But we don't hear them complaining..
They wanted to create a super league and turn players to robots...

In my opinion, CAF should just shift the AFCON to a 4 years tournament..make everybody rest...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:18pm On Dec 17, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


If you don't criticize players when they underperform how do they know they need to improve.

There's nothing like best position with Iwobi even he doesn't know his best position.

When Ancelotti was manager, Iwobi complained on Instagram that he wasn't being played in his best position. Ancelotti got upset that Iwobi did not tell him personally and offered to play Iwobi in the 10 role.

"If he (Iwobi) wants to play number 10 or number nine I'll put him there, no problem. I can adapt the system."

After Ancelotti left Everton, Iwobi changed his best position to winger.

https://www.goal.com/en-gh/amp/news/iwobi-reveals-his-best-positions-for-everton-and-nigeria/k47g49vbr9hx1nh2cxufttkmf

So the best position excuse is now stale. If Iwobi is underperforming, criticize him constructively the same way you will praise if he is doing well.


Even with SE , every honest observer knows Iwobi has been floundering all over the place like a headless chicken. But for how long would he continue to play rubbish and expect to keep getting invited.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 2:21pm On Dec 17, 2021
TFLASHOGEE:
Ok Rorh we hope nff makes necessary adjustments wink
According to the second quote, it is better for him to loose away than to loose at home.

I won't be surprised if the clause in his contract says he shouldn't loose away matches much but without telling him not to loose home matches thinking he will win all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 2:36pm On Dec 17, 2021
TFLASHOGEE:
Ok Rorh we hope nff makes necessary adjustments wink

The second quote caught my attention, about being distracted during home games because of family and friends coming into team hotel to see the players.

This is why a national football center is important, like England's St George's park .

No one can just come into the place without authorization. And if any player has family issue, the player will have to leave the place and go visit them. So no rif raffs can just come into the place , unlike if it's just a general hotel where you can't stop people from coming and going because it's a public place. Even the stubborn players among the team will not be able to carry olosho enter sef, because they will send the olosho back at the entrance normally

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 2:37pm On Dec 17, 2021
lovewins:


That's a whole different conversation. The crux of our discuss has been how Europeans have tried to influence the timing of AFCON.

The players are Africans and have the right to express their displeasure about the timing, none has so far (at least openly).


It's not a "FIFA window", so the have every right to complain, european tournament don't clash with club football, always comes up during int break or when the season is over.

You said they've been complaining ever since African players became important players for this clubs, please why won't they?Did they force this players to come and play in europe?If that's the case then maybe our league should be developed enough to force these africans to sit back so we can do things the way we like.

This isn't about them trying to force our hands it's about doing the right thing, everybody is affected by this, the fact this players ain't vocal about it doesn't change shit,same continent where questioning authority is seen as disrespect,I won't be surprised if Balogun is finally purnished for the comments he made the other time,the time when playing afcon in January was no problem was when our players were still playing local leagues,most of our players now play in that europe, it's only normal if the period is adjusted to fit into the calendar, nobody will complain.

Euros and Copa america took off in the summer when club football was on break, nothing was going on here, now mid season when the table is beginning to take shape, title race is getting hot, relegation battle is becoming a do or die affair, that's when a club like Liverpool will two of their frontmen , that's when Watford will loose up to seven players, and you think they don't have the right to complain.

If it's possible that's these clubs find a way to prevent their players from leaving for the tournament,then I'm in full support, they should go ahead.

It's actually slave mentality to "think" these clubs telling caf to shift afcon to a more comfortable date for the players, the clubs and even the countries participating is slavery.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:38pm On Dec 17, 2021
lovewins:


Not really. Afcon historically has always been in January. The difference now is many European clubs now depend on quite a lot of African players.

Africa shouldn't have to bend. The timing is in itself part of hour history. FIFA should either declare every January that AFCON holds an international break, or clubs should just get used to this. If the date should change it should be because Africa wants to not because we are bending over backwards to suit their needs

If AFRICA shouldn't have to bend, then we shouldn't complain when clubs refuse to release our best players. They pay these players, not the national teams.

I understand that conditions beyond our control have forced us to hold tournaments in January, but we shouldn't feel entitled to anything.

There are six footballing regional tournaments in the world, and only CAF plays mid-season.

But NPFL played during this hot summer,
Cameroon league played through this hot summer.
And South Africa, which had infrastructures to host a Summer World Cup, experiences its coldest climate during this hot summer.


If circumstances have forced us to deploy our biggest competition at a time when the world's biggest leagues are up and running, then so be it.

Five other federations must not stop operations because of one.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:42pm On Dec 17, 2021
TFLASHOGEE:
Ok Rorh we hope nff makes necessary adjustments wink
I think he is right. Super eagles played their best football in uyo when compared to other places like Benin and lagos
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:43pm On Dec 17, 2021
IDENNAA:



Please, Iwobi has had ample opportunities to prove his mettle , yet nothing to show. But some strange people want to disrespect Nwakali who has been playing bagging positive reviews.

Iwobi is not playing well ? Okay fine

But please what positive reviews has nwakali been bringing ? Most of you guys think we where born yesterday or we don’t follow up nwakali

What has been nwakali positive reviews ?

He is not even our best AM in Europe but yet una no go let us hear word

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:52pm On Dec 17, 2021
timay:


So you are comparing posting memes online to carrying prostitutes, which is not only frowned upon by society in general but can be detrimental to your health because of risk of contracting STDs

So posting memes is a very big crime and offense that can be compared to something as huge as that

Interesting. grin

Also football is not a corporate job. It's an entertainment industry just like hip hop. Carry your seriousness and shift

“I Know Say We Agreed On Friends With Benefits,Which One Kon Be Say You Don Dey Fall In Love With Me"

If you translated what Osimhen said to English, he meant:

I know we agreed on being just friends who have sex (intimacy is the right word), so why are you telling me you have fallen in love with me?

Meme or not? This category of public figure should never post this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 2:54pm On Dec 17, 2021
Danielnino00:


But the pandemic was still there, wasn't it?

It's been established already that Africa can't host AFCON in the summer due to weather conditions..

Only a few countries can...

So you mean if afcon was held alongside Copa america and euros, they would have prevented their African players from leaving citing covid-19 but bate an eyelid for their euro and american players?

As for the weather, that's where tech comes up but unfortunately we are so backward in that, can't there be fully built stadiums where an umbrella like structure be made to cover the stadiums when this rain start, like divert the rain and channel it somewhere else?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:57pm On Dec 17, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Iwobi is not playing well ? Okay fine

But please what positive reviews has nwakali been bringing ? Most of you guys think we are born yesterday or we don’t follow up nwakali

What has been nwakali positive reviews ?

He is not even our best AM in Europe but yet una no go let us hear word


You can't be selectively blind when it suits you. I seems , for some persons , here , you intentionally avoid any news that's speaks good of Nwakali. I won't make sense for us to argue this because I just want to avoid insults and abuses for my own candid opinion. Have a good day , oga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 2:59pm On Dec 17, 2021
Danielnino00:


While most African teams have one or two games during the international break, European countries mostly play 3... Even in South America,it's 3... But we don't hear them complaining..
They wanted to create a super league and turn players to robots...

In my opinion, CAF should just shift the AFCON to a 4 years tournament..make everybody rest...

Emphasis on INTERNATIONAL BREAK

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