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Nigeria may never get better if we don't change the constitution... You can't be doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.. No miracle can change the fortune of Nigeria unless we take a different approach.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Nigeria can never be good the people are too illiterate and stupid

what then can we do dear? If we give up, our children will inherit this problem and suffer greatly.

Jack005:
Nigeria may never get better if we don't change the constitution... You can't be doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.. No miracle can change the fortune of Nigeria unless we take a different approach.

and how can we change the constitution when the people that should do that won't because they want the status quo to remain, this corrupt system benefit them more than restructuring

God1000:
and how can we change the constitution when the people that should do that won't because they want the status quo to remain, this corrupt system benefit them more than restructuring

Thats the issue, the constitution favours them a lot and you expect them to just change it just like that? Put yourself in their shoes, would you? Bro, e go hard for naija to better ...i swear!!

Nope

budaatum:
Yes I do believe Nigeria will be good, though perhaps not in my lifetime as I have not long to go.

While difficult, considering the miseducation of many Nigerians, those who are educating their minds are like the salt that will find its saltiness.

Our asset is our vast population of growing 0-12 year olds. You will educate your children to be smarter and wiser than you are, and I'm just saddened I might not be here to witness it.

You asset is your population? Who cares about your population? Switzerland is less than 10 million and the size of Enugu and Abia states combined. But Switzerlands GDP is as big as that of Nigeria. The point of various ethnic groups coming together and staying together is that our joint effort is beneficial to all

If our unity is not bringing any progress 50 years after the war, then we are wasting our time together. It is better to be small and effective than to be big and useless

Nigeria should disintegrate, the British should never have brought us together.

God1000:
and how can we change the constitution when the people that should do that won't because they want the status quo to remain, this corrupt system benefit them more than restructuring

How good it would have been if Nairalanders are engaging in meaningful discussion like this that can provoke deep thought and awaken our consciousness to responsibility and make leaders have a rethink from their satanic mindset they are exhibiting against the country.

No, there are some nuisance that their entire life revolves around ethnic fight and creating useless 'I better pass my neighbor' threads always fanning ember of war and ignorantly swimming in the tide of divide and rule handed to us by the colonialist

Ttalk:
How good it would have been if Nairalanders are engaging in meaningful discussion like this that can provoke deep thought and awaken our consciousness to responsibility and make leaders have a rethink from their satanic mindset they are exhibiting against the country.

No, there are some nuisance that their entire life revolves around ethnic fight and creating useless 'I better pass my neighbor' threads always fanning ember of war and ignorantly swimming in the tide of divide and rule handed to us by the colonialist

so many Nigerians don't like talking about the future of our country, this thread would have reached 1k views if it were to be about sex or beauty queen

Nigeria as it stands now is irredeemable. Our diversities is a barrier. Only balknazation is the remedy.

The answer is NO because the system is faulty. The ruling elites don't want things to change because the system benefits them. So how do you expect things to change?

It may be better to break up the country.We can have economic integration at the continental or sub regional level just like the European union.

Yeah the economy recovered and is growing rapidly. I’ll just be old, in terms of wealthier and safer yes things will be better yes because I can see that with the decline of terrorism like boko haram and Fulani clashes but in terms of “good as in major power” nah

With the kind people that we have as citizens ? I doubt .

Nigeria will never get better.

gidgiddy:
If Nigeria has not gotten better in the last 50 years, come back in 50 years and nothing will change

Nigeria will never work as a nation, it is full of people with differe ideology, world view and value system. We are only together because the British brought us together, not because our being together has been a good thing. Nigeria is a waste of time, we are only heading backwards and time has come for us all to admit that our unity has been a disaster

Nigeria should disintegrate

I wonder how these so called one Nigeria people even think. Is it until we write it on a large bill board and do a commercial that Nigeria will never work before they have sense.

gidgiddy:
You asset is your population? Who cares about your population?

I care. That "population", is me, and you, and if I don't care about you, I most definitely must care about myself, right?

I'll tell you about Switzerland. Some years ago, I went swimming and caught spinal schistosomiasis which paralysed me from the waist down. Luckily, my doctors, world class that they are, saved me from dying.

The water I swam in is massive, and by my land. In fact, my land is by the water and wouldn't be my land if it weren't for the water, which I found my people piss and poo in, creating a poison that nearly killed me and crippled me.

I asked my doctors how to remove the poison from the water and was told, "Switzerland". I should go and take the sanitary system in Switzerland and put it in my hometown for my people and the water will not kill anyone anymore.

My point is, The people of Switzerland made Switzerland what it is today, and I have faith in myself and many other Nigerians, that we will one day realise how to make our Nation "Switzerland", or our children will or their children will or their children will. After all, it is not impossible for us to learn to shit in the proper place.

God1000:
and how can we change the constitution...

Constitution, a definition - the physical makeup of the individual especially with respect to the health, strength, and appearance of the body.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of we Nigerians believe that "In the Beginning was the Word", forgetting that before the Word was the human who spoke and wrote it.

The Constitution is not your physical makeup as a nation, nor is it your health nor your strength nor is it your appearance. And besides, would you not claim the current constitution is not even being adhered to?

You decide what constitutes you, and not some words in a book. We write whom we are by the fruits that we sow and reap.



I apologise for this. I so wish I could write it so it is understood, but I know I fail.

budaatum:
You need to first understand who or what Nigeria is. If you see it as yourself, your personal development and progress and your eventual greatness will be good for our nation Nigeria. And you will have kids whom you will train to do even greater things than you do.

What tribe do you belong?

Do you work for government?

budaatum:
Constitution, a definition - the physical makeup of the individual especially with respect to the health, strength, and appearance of the body.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of we Nigerians believe that "In the Beginning was the Word", forgetting that before the Word was the human who spoke and wrote it.

The Constitution is not your physical makeup as a nation, nor is it your health nor your strength nor is it your appearance. And besides, would you not claim the current constitution is not even being adhered to?

You decide what constitutes you, and not some words in a book. We write whom we are by the fruits that we sow and reap.



I apologise for this. I so wish I could write it so it is understood, but I know I fail.

Idealism + utopianism - pragmatism = Fatalism.

What tribe do you belong?

Sctests:
Idealism + utopianism - pragmatism = Fatalism.

As opposed to not trying at all?

I refuse to be that hopelessly useless.

Sctests:
What tribe do you belong?

Not that it has anything to do with anything.

Sctests:
Do you work for government?

I work for myself.

budaatum:
As opposed to not trying at all?

I refuse to be that hopelessly useless.



Not that it has anything to do with anything.

You've been trying for donkey years, even more than a century. Repeating the same thing, while expecting a diferrent result= Madness.

Your being yoruba simply confirmed my strongly held suspicion about your thought process.

Zero pragmatism, idealistic utopianists sequestered from practical reality.

There is nothing wrong with Nigeria, the problem is the people residing therein.

budaatum:
I care. That "population", is me, and you, and if I don't care about you, I most definitely must care about myself, right?

I'll tell you about Switzerland. Some years ago, I went swimming and caught spinal schistosomiasis which paralysed me from the waist down. Luckily, my doctors, world class that they are, saved me from dying.

The water I swam in is massive, and by my land. In fact, my land is by the water and wouldn't be my land if it weren't for the water, which I found my people piss and poo in, creating a poison that nearly killed me and crippled me.

I asked my doctors how to remove the poison from the water and was told, "Switzerland". I should go and take the sanitary system in Switzerland and put it in my hometown for my people and the water will not kill anyone anymore.

My point is, The people of Switzerland made Switzerland what it is today, and I have faith in myself and many other Nigerians, that we will one day realise how to make our Nation "Switzerland", or our children will or their children will or their children will. After all, it is not impossible for us to learn to shit in the proper place.

This guys mentality is a classic example of why Nigeria is a total failure. His own is "lets stay together and one day we will grow into a united progressive nation". We have had 105 years as a country and 61 years of trying to be a nation. We are a country on paper only, and no where near being a nation. Today, we are as divided as ever and things are steadily getting worse.

We have no national philosophy, no cohesion, no commonality of purpose and no integrated value system. From this mountain of chaos, someone is hoping for a miracle to happen so that there will bring progress? Who is fooling who?

Its time for us all to admit that Nigeria is a catastrophically failed British colonial experiment. We should end this unholy union and hold a referendum so that the ethnic nationalities that still believe in Nigeria can continue, and those who have been choking since 1960 can finally breathe fresh air and leave

People who think Nigeria will be better are the real problem of the country because they benefit from the system. They would be bad engineers and suck in almost every professions because they believe bad foundation and construction can produce safe dwellings.

These people are not saying anything about the decree Nigeria is using.

Every country with multiple nations run regional govt as we had in the past, even the United Kingdom that created Nigeria uses that and it works great. The Scottish have their heroes on their own money not the queen. Why can't Yoruba have own art and culture on our money too, why must one man who hasn't done anything for us be in our money just to make some people feel they belong? If other regions don't want history in schools, why can't Yoruba keep history in their own schools? Nigeria has no democracy, the country runs feudal-fascist system where the regions can't grow. God has blessed every region with something they can tap for money and pay a percentage to the fg but greed won't let them do it. Forcing Nigeria together is destroying lives of the so called Nigerians.

gidgiddy:
This guys mentality is a classic example of why Nigeria is a total failure. His own is "lets stay together and one day we will grow into a united progressive nation".

No sir. I don't really care if you stay together or not, though I can assure you you are going nowhere, and even if you do you can't stop your neighbours crossing your borders to visit you.

My position is, if you improve yourself and I improve myself and we all improve ourselves and our surrounding and neighborhoods, Nigeria will be a better place.

It's after all a fact that we are not perfect yet and have someway to go.

Sctests:
You've been trying for donkey years, even more than a century. Repeating the same thing, while expecting a diferrent result= Madness.

I am not asking you to repeat the same thing, Sctests. I am actially asking that we be responsible for the state of our nation, which we so far haven't been, instead of irresponsibly blaming others.

Once we take responsibility for our madness we can start to cure ourselves of it.

Just my opinion as European (so forgive me if I apply what worked for us in the West to your context) - all European countries fall somewhere between extreme decentralization and extreme centralization. You guys went from weak federation to the opposite end - extreme centralization - in less than a century, then tried to go back to the middle-of-the-road.

Both extremes can work - France has always been an extremely centralized nation, whereas Germany has always been quite decentralized, same as Spain. The closest nation to your system would be my homeland, Italy - the central gov maintains overall control, but the administration itself is decentralized.

Let's take a practical example - let's say you want to retire and need to send a form to be processed. The local unit will process your form and handle your case, while the central unit in the capital will dictate large scale policy changes.

Nigeria is a huge country in terms of population and territory - go full-on decentralization, you will devolve into parochialism and (let's be honest here) tribalism. Go full-on with centralization...you know better than a foreigner how that went.

Tl;dr - you guys aren't stupid, so why re-invent the wheel when you can take example from others' past mistakes? Nigeria can have a bright future, you just need to change what hasn't worked so far.

budaatum:
I am not asking you to repeat the same thing, Sctests. I am actially asking that we be responsible for the state of our nation, which we so far haven't been, instead of irresponsibly blaming others.

Once we take responsibility for our madness we can start to cure ourselves of it.

What responsibility are you talking about.

Electricity- By myself
Water- By myself
Education- By myself
Health-By myself
Security-By myself

What more responsibility are you asking from the Nigerians when they practically provide everything without any input from the government. What is essence of paying tax when it's not going to be put in proper use for the benefit of the people?

How do a sane person be comfortable with the level of killings going on and government can't come up with any means to address them when everyone knows that state police would at least reduce this madness in this country.

Sorry, you appear to be very selfish and parochial based on your comments so far on this topic. You want us all to be a good person when there's no system or structure to guide us, nothing happens by chance

Ttalk:
What responsibility are you talking about.

Electricity- By myself
Water- By myself
Education- By myself
Health-By myself
Security-By myself

What more responsibility are you asking from the Nigerians when they practically provide everything without any input from the government. What is essence of paying tax when it's not going to be put in proper use for the benefit of the people?

How do a sane person be comfortable with the level of killings going on and government can't come up with any means to address them when everyone knows that state police would at least reduce this madness in this country.

Sorry, you appear to be very selfish and parochial based on your comments so far on this topic. You want us all to be a good person when there's no system or structure to guide us, nothing happens by chance

The guy u quoted is a habitual zombie and a northerner who must work hard to keep this contraption together

omoharry:
With the kind people that we have as citizens ? I doubt .

so what do we then?

meccuno:
Nigeria will never get better.

hmm, this scares me bro