hupernikao:
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Bro? Did you miss the OP? It's not about who created God. Don't derail Sir.

He said no evidence of it. So I accept. I only need your own evidence of how life started from nothing without magic.

If you want to start your own thread on "who created God" then open a new thread and give me special iV there. I will surely take the front seat. You should know by now, I don't run away from my convictions.

answer the question. Who or what created God. Or god just appeared from no where?

HardMirror:
answer the question. Who or what created God. Or god just appeared from no where?

Create a new thread for this and invite me. I will show up.

But for now don't derail your thread. You claimed to know more of how things started without a creator. This is what you need to explain here.

I still await you.

hupernikao:


Create a new thread for this and invite me. I will show up.

But for now don't derail your thread. You claimed to know more of how things started without a creator. This is what you need to explain here.

I still await you.

it is relevant to this topic. Or cant you read? The topic states that there is no proof for creationism. If there is then there must be a creator, if there is a creator, where did the creator come from. This is common sense stop being smart by half. This is exactly what this thread is about, stop playing dumb

hupernikao:


What you proposed up there is a fallacy.

Like I said, we aren't looking at a creator here. We are looking at how life began without a creator. Why is that hard. So if I am not a Christian or doesn't believe in a God and question your theories, you will be saying what you wrote up there? Is your issue always with debunking a creator or telling us what you have discovered and hold true?

I say again, explain bigbang magic and let's know how life started in a magical way.

I need this education.

You chose to believe that there's a creator.
Yet you have no evidence of that creator.

Others chose to believe theres no creator due to the lack of same evidence, and you have an issue with that?

Anyway, not long ago I was in your shoes. You're simply following orders from the bible to evangelise. I can understand.

Anyway, everybody go dey aii las las.

Live and let live is my mantra.

Unfortunately religionists are not allowed to allow others to live without believing in their belief.

You know the worst part of religionism?
Once the person finally accepts and converts, another fight begins, cos there are many other doctrines/factions/denominationalism in each religion and no 2 people share the same religious beliefs especially in Christianity.

Anyway, compliments of the season bro.
Just please and please, this coming year, know this and know peace. Others don't have to be wrong for you to be right.
Belief system is important. You shouldn't try to force people out of what they believe.
You can preach the gospel without forcing your belief on others.

It is God's work to determine who he has prepared to accept your message.

hupernikao:


You are the one who need to change your glasses and read properly. I never said you. I said I have been. Go through the thread and read well Sir. It's written in language you understand.

Epèlé Sir. Ekúu intervention.
Is like the other account is slow to knowledge or don't have the boldness this your account have to accept the faults

I was the one asking the same question since yesterday and no answer. You owe me that.

Did you type these?
Then you seemed to assert that I and Hardmirror are the same person under different accounts sir.

Anyway, it happens but we are not.
Stay safe.

And interestingly I finally decided to google the meaning of your moniker. Romans 8:37
Explains a lot.lol Cheers to greater unveilings and conquests in 2022.

HardMirror:
well, you may be right, but I think while we cannot be absolute, we can forget about creationism for now. It is simply not a credible argument as it is. It has absolutely no basis on which it stands that is the point i am making with this thread

Lol I think we should respect everyone's beliefs as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

Hupernikao should respect your Evolutionist theory.
Just as you should respect his Creationist belief.
But we can always engage in intellectual arguments to understand each others' beliefs.

Myer:






Did you type these?
Then you seemed to assert that I and Hardmirror are the same person under different accounts sir.

Anyway, it happens but we are not.
Stay safe.

And interestingly I finally decided to google the meaning of your moniker. Romans 8:37
Explains a lot.lol Cheers to greater unveilings and conquests.

I am sure the holy spirit told him we are the same person. Lol.

The way he keeps making it look like I am dodging him. Dodging him how? Lol. The guy wants us not to talk about the creator even though we are talking about creationism. Just imagine this level of dishonesty

Myer:


Lol I think we should respect everyone's beliefs as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

Hupernikao should respect your Evolutionist theory.
Just as you should respect his Creationist belief.
But we can always engage in intellectual arguments to understand each others' beliefs.

I don't agree. I am not looking for respect. He should not respect my opinion, I am not also going to respect any rubbish. He should prove me wrong.

Myer:


You chose to believe that there's a creator.
Yet you have to evidence of that creator.

Others chose to believe theres no creator due to the lack of same evidence, and you have an issue with that?

Anyway, not long ago I wasin your shoes. You're simply following orders from the bible to evangelise. I can understand.

Anyway, everybody go dey aii las las.

Live and let live is my mantra.

Unfortunately religionists are not allowed to allow live without believing in their belief.

You know the worst part of religionism?
Once the person finally accepts and converts, another fight begins, cos there are many other doctrines/factions/denominationalism in each religion and no 2 people share the same religious beliefs especially in Christianity.

Anyway, compliments of the season bro.
Just please and please, this coming year, know this and know peace. Others don't have to be wrong for you to be right.
Belief system is important. You shouldn't try to force people out of what they believe.
You can preach the gospel without forcing your belief on others.

It is God's work to determine who he has prepared to accept your message.

Do you see dagger in my hand hunting down unbelievers? You assume alot Bro.

Was I the one who created the thread and started "live and not let others live" ?. Your advise is inverted. Turn it the right way to the person who see triumph in attacking believers yet without ability that withstand scrutiny.

Have you ever see me attack anyone? I only questioned. And it became a problem.

So, Bro answer my question or give your advise to your fellow bigbanger.

As of 2022 Bro, even you will be as I am as the Lord liveth. The new year will come with the newness of things and light to your heart.

Amen.

HardMirror:
it is relevant to this topic. Or cant you read? The topic states that there is no proof for creationism. If there is then there must be a creator, if there is a creator, where did the creator come from. This is common sense stop being smart by half. This is exactly what this thread is about, stop playing dumb

Afraid to start another thread? I don't mix issues up.

Your thread here is already flawed. It couldn't provide necessary information and conviction of what it intend to do. I have 5 questions, which I have only asked one. If you are rigmaroling on just one question, that means I should keep the 5th question till end of 2023. Lol.

HardMirror:
I am sure the holy spirit told him we are the same person. Lol.

The way he keeps making it look like I am dodging him. Dodging him how? Lol. The guy wants us not to talk about the creator even though we are talking about creationism. Just imagine this level of dishonesty

I tire oh.
But like I said, he has his beliefs,you have your beliefs, I have mine.

We dont have to prove ours is right by proving others is wrong especially when there's paucity of evidence.

Even in the bible, before they could follow Moses the israelites had to see the evidences viz- his stick turning to snake and consuming the other snakes, Egyptians experiancing warts, rivers turning to blood, tirst borns dying, red sea parting for them to pass, etc.
For Elijah to prove his God is the greatest, fire had to rain down from heaven to consume cisterns and the other prophets of Baal.
Jesus had to turn water to wine, walk on water, feet multitudes miraculously, heal the sick, etc.

Biblically God knows the importance of evidence. But today they simply hinge everything on faith.
Even faith is defined and an evidence of things unseen.
Meaning after you have it then those things should start happening. The miracles, signs and wonders, etc.

HardMirror:
I don't agree. I am not looking for respect. He should not respect my opinion, I am not also going to respect any rubbish. He should prove me wrong.

Prove 100% IQ wrong. Who am I?

You are the one who is disappointing me with your 100% IQ that can't answer a simple question. Sadly also, you find it hard to accept you don't know the answer.

This is the true picture of a man hawking ignorance spread on a tray of dishonesty.

HardMirror:
I don't agree. I am not looking for respect. He should not respect my opinion, I am not also going to respect any rubbish. He should prove me wrong.

Well, you do not have proof of your own belief too.
So technically no one belief is absolute.

While I understand that creationism is a bit far-fetched, I think it's ok to allow those who don't believe in evolution theory to have something they believe in.

Myer:






Did you type these?
Then you seemed to assert that I and Hardmirror are the same person under different accounts sir.

Anyway, it happens but we are not.
Stay safe.

And interestingly I finally decided to google the meaning of your moniker. Romans 8:37
Explains a lot.lol Cheers to greater unveilings and conquests in 2022.

I know in 2022, we will have God's light lighting more territories even on NL. Lol.

And for you Sir, a blessed year ahead.

hupernikao:


Do you see dagger in my hand hunting down unbelievers? You assume alot Bro.

Was I the one who created the thread and started "live and not let others live" ?. Your advise is inverted. Turn it the right way to the person who see triumph in attacking believers yet without ability that withstand scrutiny.

Have you ever see me attack anyone? I only questioned. And it became a problem.

So, Bro answer my question or give your advise to your fellow bigbanger.

As of 2022 Bro, even you will be as I am as the Lord liveth. The new year will come with the newness of things and light to your heart.

Amen.

You of all people should know that your weapon is stronger than a dagger. it is an attack on the mindset and belief system of others.

About the thread, well, I'm sure I've made my position known from the jump.

HardMirror:
Just so you know and perhaps you can think...

1. No single evidence for creationism
2. There are thousands of evidence that supports evolution.
3. Creationism teaches that life came from nothing, yet creationists keep asking where life started with evolution?

There is absolutely no reason to believe a god created life and no evidence for it.

if you have evidence or superior arguement that supports creationism over evolution tell us, cause no one in the world has so far presented any evidence that life was created


Happy Sunday

As much as I used to believe in Evolution theory, I came across a question that I could not answer;

If Evolution theory is true, how come we have not seen any animal evolve after all this years?

What's your take on this?

Myer:


You of all people should know that your weapon us stronger than a weapon it is an attack on the mindset and belief system of others.

About the thread, well, I'm sure I've made my position known from the jump.

Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

HardMirror:
no it does not.

without a mind, eye, or any kind of sense, or even energy, can you create a perfect or even an imperfect chaos, talkless of an harmonised object?

hupernikao:


Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

What makes you think this will solve any problem?

You that have received the light of Christ, do you mind sharing what is the difference between you and others?

2elliot:
without a mind, eye, or any kind of sense, or even energy, can you create a perfect or even an imperfect chaos, talkless of an harmonised object?

Kindly shed more light on this.

Myer:


What makes you think this will solve any problem?

You that have received the light of Christ, do you mind sharing what is the difference between you and others?

This depends on what you see as the problem.
When we align on this, I can let you know what the light does.

What is the problem to be solved?

hupernikao:


This depends on what you see as the problem.
When we align on this, I can let you know what the light does.

What is the problem to be solved?

Exactly my point. You really can't point out the difference.

Biblically the only difference is that you will make it to heaven. While those who do not believe in Jesus like you do will end up in hell. Right?

That's a religious belief shared by other religions too.

The Muslims believe all Christian's are damned for their own version of hell.
Jews believe non-Jews are damned for their own version of hell.
Christian's believe non-Christians are damned for hell.
Other religions believe those who do not practise theirs are likewise damned for their own version of hell.

Only few religions don't condemn others to hell.

So if you have any concrete difference between you and a non-believer in Jesus, praytell, this might convert me and others.

Myer:


Exactly my point. You really can point out the difference.

Biblically the only difference is that you will make it to heaven. While those who do not believe in Jesus like you do will end up in hell. Right?

That's a religious belief shared by other religions too.

The Muslims believe all Christian's are fanned for their own version of hell.
Jews believe non-Jews are damned for their own version of hell.
Christian's believe non-Christians are damned for hell.
Other religions believe those who do not practise theirs are likewise damned for their own version of hell.

Only few religions don't condemn others to hell.

So if you have any concrete difference between you and a non-believer in Jesus, praytell, this might convert me and others.

You always assume my theology. I never said everything you put up there.

I only asked if we can align on what the "problem" is. If we do then it will help our discussion.

Bible is not and never about heaven or hell. It's about salvation through faith in Christ.

Simply seeing the salvation which is a central theme in the Bible should let you know that Bible already have a bias that the world itself is already in a chaos, degenerating and corruptible state. You don't save someone or something that is not in danger. Salvation is to rescue to safety.

So if the focus of the Bible is salvation, then making heaven or casting into hell is just a doctrinal superimposition.

There is no need to throw the world in hell or fire or anything, the world is already in a state of degradation. It's only a matter of time. The evil and corruption in the world is self destructive and you know. Hence, Bible theology only present to you the

The WHY
The WHAT
The WAY OUT

Also note that, a man who view all about this world as natural and neglect facts of supernatural or spiritual, is yet to start living. These are facts that will outline the "problem" of these world.

Myer:


Creationism simply stems from the logic that nothing can exist without being created.
And man's need to make sense out of existence- his and nature around him.
So let's attribute all existence to a creator, God.

Evolution theory or Darwinism on the other hand postulates that all species of organisms are by-products of natural selection.

Both of them have their arguments but so far neither has been proven to be absolute truth.

I dont think man will ever understand how we came into existence. We can only choose which scientific theory or religious stand to accept.

Man who has been able to build complex things whether it be chaos or harmony should have no difficulty believing in an intelligent God as creator of everything complex whether it be a chaos or order. By no chance has a car come about, neither a plane, a house or anything created by man.

2elliot:
Man who has been able to build complex things whether it be chaos or harmony should have no difficulty believing in an intelligent God as creator of everything complex whether it be a chaos or order. By no chance has a car come about, neither a plane, a house or anything created by man.

Ok, so I decide to believe in creationism.
Who is this creator?
Cos different creationists seem to have different ideas of the creator.
Or does the creator not want to be known?

Myer:


Who created God?

Who created a robot?

Myer:


What makes you think this will solve any problem?

You that have received the light of Christ, do you mind sharing what is the difference between you and others?

help me ask o

Myer:


As much as I used to believe in Evolution theory, I came across a question that I could not answer;

If Evolution theory is true, how come we have not seen any animal evolve after all this years?

What's your take on this?

because the challenge as changes are ridiculously small. Look at the Corona virus, di you see how much it has evolved in just a year

Myer:


Well, you do not have proof of your own belief too.
So technically no one belief is absolute.

While I understand that creationism is a bit far-fetched, I think it's ok to allow those who don't believe in evolution theory to have something they believe in.

it is not a belief

hupernikao:


Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

You are doing the same thing that Jesusjnr did in 2018 that made him delete his account. LMAO!

2elliot:
Man who has been able to build complex things whether it be chaos or harmony should have no difficulty believing in an intelligent God as creator of everything complex whether it be a chaos or order. By no chance has a car come about, neither a plane, a house or anything created by man.

key word here is BELIEF. Why should we belief in s creator. What creator?

HardMirror:
because the challenge as changes are ridiculously small. Look at the Corona virus, di you see how much it has evolved in just a year

Pls Covid is not a verifiable fact.
It's a political one.lol

It was written about since over 30 years ago before it was "created"
US needed to oust Trump and there was no other way to achieve that so they introduced the coronavirus.