Myer:


Are you saying that the bible makes no promises that differentiates a Christian from others?

Cos I'm simply stating what the bible teaches.

You aren't ready my response Bro. Your comment suggest so.

I have told you 3 times now that what you are saying about God's spirit is same as all I have said earlier. The term "receiving of the spirit" is used interchangeably with newness, life, baptism etc in the Bible.

E. G when you see
Walk in the newness of life (Rom 6:4). It's not a different walk from saying, walk in the spirit (Gal 5:16). It's the same phrase put in different ways.

You are the one trying to pull out something from this.


By the way, what's still holding you back in holding your fort for Jesus. Don't you think it's hightime.

Myer:

Are you dust? Since that's what the bible says.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, thanks to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Genesis 2:7; 3:19
Well all creatures are from the dust {Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 12:7} that's why there is no other way to decompose any dead organism without giving the remains to the dust. Even if you burn the body with fire or pour acid on it you must give as in return the rest to the dust (group)

All of you are easy prey to ATHEISM as long as you're not with Jehovah's Witnesses {Psalms 91:1} you will continue leaving one religion (church) for another if you're shy to declare yourself atheists, then you will start seeking what is not lost migrating from one lane to another on the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14

God's word says humans are created from the dust of the ground but here you are doubting such facts. This and many more precious things you're missing if you're not learning from Jesus' anointed brothers (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses)
Even a child of 15 in our midst who has been regular in our meetings will TEACH a professor in atheism that all the components found in the human body are also found in the dust of the earth, meaning God's word (Bible) is 100% accurate. But who will teach you how to defend such facts if not the faithful and discreet slave chosen by Jesus? Matthew 24:45

Well i know you're just shy to declare yourself, you are already an atheist.
Farewell!

hupernikao:



You aren't ready my response Bro. Your comment suggest so.

I have told you 3 times now that what you are saying about God's spirit is same as all I have said earlier. The term "receiving of the spirit" is used interchangeably with newness, life, baptism etc in the Bible.

E. G when you see
Walk in the newness of life (Rom 6:4). It's not a different walk from saying, walk in the spirit (Gal 5:16). It's the same phrase put in different ways.

You are the one trying to pull out something from this.


By the way, what's still holding you back in holding your fort for Jesus. Don't you think it's hightime.

I understand that the new life and walking in spirit are often used interchangeably but my argument is that any convert into any other religion also experiences a new life.

The phrase walking in spirit is more exclusive to Christianity as the believer is meant to have the Holyspirit as his helper in the new life.

Good morning sire.

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, thanks to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Genesis 2:7; 3:19
Well all creatures are from the dust {Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 12:7} that's why there is no other way to decompose any dead organism without giving the remains to the dust. Even if you burn the body with fire or pour acid on it you must give as in return the rest to the dust (group)

All of you are easy prey to ATHEISM as long as you're not with Jehovah's Witnesses {Psalms 91:1} you will continue leaving one religion (church) for another if you're shy to declare yourself atheists, then you will start seeking what is not lost migrating from one lane to another on the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14

God's word says humans are created from the dust of the ground but here you are doubting such facts. This and many more precious things you're missing if you're not learning from Jesus' anointed brothers (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses)
Even a child of 15 in our midst who has been regular in our meetings will TEACH a professor in atheism that all the components found in the human body are also found in the dust of the earth, meaning God's word (Bible) is 100% accurate. But who will teach you how to defend such facts if not the faithful and discreet slave chosen by Jesus? Matthew 24:45

Well i know you're just shy to declare yourself, you are already an atheist.
Farewell!

I intentionally ignore your mentions and posts because you're painfully predictable.

Every engagement with you starts and ends with promoting your organisation which makes you sound mechanical.

Just decided to address the bolded.

Who am I shy of? You??

If I was an atheist I would gladly declare it.
But I'm not.
So stop constituting public nuisance on people's threads.

Myer:


Ok agreed.
Can you mention any known animal that has evolved to your knowledge?

this question is ridiculous because if you truly understand how much DNA has to change for you to say a specie evolved into another, you wont expect we should have seen animals that have fully gone through the process. But take a look at the genome of most animals and see how transcendent they are, all animals share so much of their genome with many others of different species many animals can even be said to be transitional such as the platypus, there are fishes with lung like structures, mammals laying eggs, snakes with limb like growths etc. Many species are actively changing but don't expect any major change any time soon as these genetic changes are so gradual, but still 100% evident and most changes are not beneficial and eventually die off, this makes it a time demanding process if only u can take time to learn a bit more about how it works

Myer:


I intentionally ignore your mentions and posts because you're painfully predictable.

Every engagement with you starts and ends with promoting your organisation which imakes you sound mechanical.

Just decided to address the bolded.

Who am I shy of? You??

If I was an atheist I would gladly declare it.
But I'm not.
So stop constituting public nuisance on people's threads.

you dey answer that guy. He quotes you and ensures he adds subtle accusations to make sure you reply him. He is just doing that because he likes it when you reply him even when he is making no sense

HardMirror:
this question is ridiculous because if you truly understand how much DNA has to change for you to say a specie evolved into another, you wont expect we should have seen animals that have fully gone through the process. But take a look at the genome of most animals and see how transcendent they are, all animals share so much of their genome with many others of different species many animals can even be said to be transitional such as the platypus, there are fishes with lung like structures, mammals laying eggs, snakes with limb like growths etc. Many species are actively changing but don't expect any major change any time soon as these genetic changes are so gradual, but still 100% evident and most changes are not beneficial and eventually die off, this makes it a time demanding process if only u can take time to learn a bit more about how it works

Exactly.
This is why I could no longer defend the evolutionist theory.

Now eventhough i am sceptical about the creationist theory, I'm also just as sceptical about the evolutionist theory.

Which is why I have assumed the position of the agnostic. I understand that it's not everything we can have an answer to.
Cos concerning the existence of life, we may never have the answer.

None has been able to prove with concrete evidence how life and the universe came to be.

Myer:


Exactly.
This is why I could no longer defend the evolutionist theory.

Now eventhough i am sceptical about the creationist theory, I'm also just as sceptical about the evolutionist theory.

Which is why I have assumed the position of the agnostic. I understand that it's not everything we can have an answer to.
Cos concerning the existence of life, we may never have the answer.

None has been able to prove with concrete evidence how life and the universe came to be.

I used to be like this until I started listening to a lot of biologists. I realize it makes sense because there are indeed proofs for evolution and the questions we ask such as the one you asked are actually ridiculous. How can we expect to see an animal evolve? It is so gradual you cannot notice until you compare over a period of time enough that the changes are observable.

Myer:

I intentionally ignore your mentions and posts because you're painfully predictable.
Every engagement with you starts and ends with promoting your organisation which imakes you sound mechanical.
Just decided to address the bolded.
Who am I shy of? You??
If I was an atheist I would gladly declare it.
But I'm not.
So stop constituting public nuisance on people's threads.

My friend, no let am pain you!

That's the truth!

The only reason why those guys declared themselves ATHEISTS is simply because they are doubting God's word, so stop deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:


My friend, no let am pain you!

That's the truth!

The only reason why those guys declared themselves ATHEISTS is simply because they are doubting God's word, so stop deceiving yourself!

I can speak for myself. I am not doubting Gods word. Where is God's word? I have not even seen the gods word talkless of doubting it. Have you seen gods word?

HardMirror:
you dey answer that guy. He quotes you and ensures he adds subtle accusations to make sure you reply him. He is just doing that because he likes it when you reply him even when he is making no sense

Lol you gerrit.
Attention-seeking sicko.

HardMirror:
I used to be like this until I started listening to a lot of biologists. I realize it makes sense because there are indeed proofs for evolution and the questions we ask such as the one you asked are actually ridiculous. How can we expect to see an animal evolve? It is so gradual you cannot notice until you compare over a period of time enough that the changes are observable.

An analogy would be like being asked to show a baby turn into a full grown man.
If you've lived with children you'd know that their growth is gradual and slight that you really can't tell any difference from day to day, but travel out for a few months and come back and notice a world of difference. With modern tech it's possible to take a picture of someone from birth to death and create a montage showing their growth changes to answer such a request.
In evolutionary biology I'm guessing the equivalent of those pictures are fossil records, and DNA. To actively show an animal evolve we'd need to conduct a multi-generational observation or experiment, or do such an observation/experiment on microbs, because they reproduce at a really fast rate, which has already been done.

IMAliyu:

An analogy would be like being asked to show a baby turn into a full grown man.
If you've lived with children you'd know that their growth is gradual and slight that you really can't tell any difference from day to day, but travel out for a few months and come back and notice a world of difference. With modern tech it's possible to take a picture of someone from birth to death and create a montage showing their growth changes to answer such a request.
In evolutionary biology I'm guessing the equivalent of those pictures are fossil records, and DNA. To actively show an animal evolve we'd need to conduct a multi-generational observation or experiment, or do such an observation/experiment on microbs, because they reproduce at a really fast rate, which has already been done.

at last some one who understands the subject and knows exactly what he or she is saying. Because bacteria reproduce very quickly, this has been more observable with microbes

HardMirror:
I can speak for myself. I am not doubting Gods word. Where is God's word? I have not even seen the gods word talkless of doubting it. Have you seen gods word?

Hilarious!

You're not doubting God's word yet you're always talking about Christianity and what the Bible says, shey?

No wonder Jesus said you people are spiritually blind, deaf and dumb. If you're not doubting something why have you raised over 60 different threads on this section RELIGION?

Eeyaa! If only you can humble yourself i'm sure you'll be cured from this spiritual disability!

MaxInDHouse:


Hilarious!

You're not doubting God's word yet you're always talking about Christianity and what the Bible says, shey?

No wonder Jesus said you people are spiritually blind, deaf and dumb. If you're not doubting something why have you raised over 60 different threads on this section RELIGION?

Eeyaa! If only you can humble yourself i'm sure you'll be cured from this spiritual disability!

exactly I am always talking about christianity because people need to speak up about this fraud of a religion

HardMirror:
this question is ridiculous because if you truly understand how much DNA has to change for you to say a specie evolved into another, you wont expect we should have seen animals that have fully gone through the process. But take a look at the genome of most animals and see how transcendent they are, all animals share so much of their genome with many others of different species many animals can even be said to be transitional such as the platypus, there are fishes with lung like structures, mammals laying eggs, snakes with limb like growths etc. Many species are actively changing but don't expect any major change any time soon as these genetic changes are so gradual, but still 100% evident and most changes are not beneficial and eventually die off, this makes it a time demanding process if only u can take time to learn a bit more about how it works

Went to the zoo yesterday. Was quite surprised to learn that human beings share 50% of our DNA with...

....wait for it.....






BANANAS .

No jokes!

HardMirror:
I used to be like this until I started listening to a lot of biologists. I realize it makes sense because there are indeed proofs for evolution and the questions we ask such as the one you asked are actually ridiculous. How can we expect to see an animal evolve? It is so gradual you cannot notice until you compare over a period of time enough that the changes are observable.

"...How can we expect to see an animal evolve? It is so gradual you cannot notice ...."

I know you are more confused than this... one of the reasons I want to KNOWMORE about your definition of evidence at the beginning of the thread...

Now let's use the 7 days in a week to get something right:

if you decide to count from Monday, you'll have Sunday as your seventh day.

If you decide to count from Tuesday, you'll have Monday as your seventh day.

E.g Monday - 1; Tuesday -2; Wednesday -3; Thursday -4; Friday -5; Saturday -6; Sunday -7!

So each day can be the seventh day depending on what day you started your counting. Isn't it?

Ok. No matter how much (years) it takes for a creature to evolve into another one... today actually fulfill the number of such number of years... depending on the time you started your counting!

From the point your number of years completed for other living things to become human, it should be happening every day because each day complete that number of years!

I mean, today it's trillions of years completed depending on where you started your counting!

Can you show me the "evidence"?
I'm yet to understand what you call evidence.

By the way, disbelief = inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real.

HardMirror:
exactly I am always talking about christianity because people need to speak up about this fraud of a religion

"FRAUD"

Please let's consider literal meaning of that word:

©The crime of stealing or otherwise illegally obtaining money by use of deception tactics.

©Any act of deception carried out for the purpose of unfair, undeserved and/or unlawful gain.

©The assumption of a false identity to such deceptive end.

Now how do you help the victims that can't easily decipher what is happening and to worsen matters the victim keeps trusting the fraudster?

To Illustrate, imagine people who feels like protecting their legs from dust and mud going to the same place to buy footwears, but they were given nylon to tie on their foot in exchange for 10% of their monthly earnings!
How do you think a barefooted observer can convince them that they're being defrauded?

That's exactly what you don't know!

False religions is offering people worthless things but it's impossible for someone like you who doesn't have anything to offer in replacement of what they're buying.

Now imagine someone who is wearing a strong leader footwear, well polished and firmly fitted. Do you think such a person needs so much stress to convince them that they're being defrauded?

So my friend, we know that false religionists are being defrauded but your speaking up is just like the noise of a barefooted man who is shouting FRAUD! FRAUD!! FRAUD!!!

shaybebaby:

Went to the zoo yesterday. Was quite surprised to learn that human beings share 50% of our DNA with...

....wait for it.....






BANANAS .

No jokes!

sure

Myer:


Exactly.
This is why I could no longer defend the evolutionist theory.

Now eventhough i am sceptical about the creationist theory, I'm also just as sceptical about the evolutionist theory.

Which is why I have assumed the position of the agnostic. I understand that it's not everything we can have an answer to.
Cos concerning the existence of life, we may never have the answer.

None has been able to prove with concrete evidence how life and the universe came to be.

What is evidence? Please I need to KNOWMORE about the word...

We read and heard almost everything... we choose the ones to believe and disbelieve the other....

like we read and heard that somebody traveled to the moon, what was the evidence that makes you accept it to be true?

KNOWMORE56:


What is evidence? Please I need to KNOWMORE about the word...

We read and heard almost everything... we choose the ones to believe and disbelieve the other....

like we read and heard that somebody traveled to the moon, what was the evidence that makes you accept it to be true?

similarities between species is self evident for one, mutations are also self evident. It is beyond belief it is fact and observable

Myer:


I understand that the new life and walking in spirit are often used interchangeably but my argument is that any convert into any other religion also experiences a new life.

The phrase walking in spirit is more exclusive to Christianity as the believer is meant to have the Holyspirit as his helper in the new life.

Good morning sire.

Okay. I don agree.

You didn't respond to my last paragraph.

It's hightime you start holding your fort for Jesus. What do you think.

KNOWMORE56:


What is evidence? Please I need to KNOWMORE about the word...

We read and heard almost everything... we choose the ones to believe and disbelieve the other....

like we read and heard that somebody traveled to the moon, what was the evidence that makes you accept it to be true?

Well while those documented in only the bible are not verifiable.

Man's travel to the moon was documented on video not just photo.
Even recently Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have achieved it.

hupernikao:




Okay. I don agree.

You didn't respond to my last paragraph.

It's hightime you start holding your fort for Jesus. What do you think.

I have done my part as an evangelist.
Now I'm just doing my part to deconstruct people from religionism that is against the teachings of Christ himself.

HardMirror:
exactly I am always talking about christianity because people need to speak up about this fraud of a religion

Speak up? You are really really funny?
You arent even afraid?

A system that has survived thousands of years, a system that has walked through fire, persecution, death, rejection and still come out of it unscathed? If you can't read history, at least let history read you.

You sit down behind the keyboard and talk about speaking up against the church?

You can't go house to house arresting them?, accusing them, jailing them, or destroying them? That's laziness Bro. You won't understand what you are trying to be against when you just sit under AC with chicken in your hand typing "speak up" on NL while sipping juice.

Internet has given you home o. Enjoy it while it last.

Myer:


I have done my part as an evangelist.
Now I'm just doing my part to deconstruct people from religionism that is against the teachings of Christ himself.

Oh okay. What's your definition of Christian "religionism" as against Christ teaching as you mentioned.

hupernikao:


Oh okay. What's your definition of Christian "religionism" as against Christ teaching as you mentioned.

I had an account on NL here that all I did was evangelise just like you and Jesusjnr are doing today.

Christ was against reigionism whether Christian or otherwise.

Biblically Christ did a lot of things that today the typical Christian would find blasphemous.

1. He mixed with sinners. He wined and dined with them.

2. He chased traders out of the church. What today most GOs and Pastors are guilty of. Trading their anointing oils, books and daily guides.

3. He spoke against the authorities of his time- Pharisees and Saducees.

HardMirror:
similarities between species is self evident for one, mutations are also self evident. It is beyond belief it is fact and observable

Hmm! Similarities between species...?

Maybe plants evolved to animal ( especially man) in regards to the below

Went to the zoo yesterday. Was quite surprised to learn that human beings share 50% of our DNA with...

....wait for it.....

BANANAS grin.

No jokes!

[quote author=HardMirror post=108930394] sure

Myer:


Well while those documented in only the bible are not verifiable.

Man's travel to the moon was documented on video not just photo.
Even recently Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have achieved it.

How about the 1st man who we're told traveled to the moon... you in particular, did you doubt that?

You know the kind of question " free thinkers" used to ask - how did you know he traveled to the moon actually, were you there?

Consider the Op statement below. Does he agree the Bible is the word of God?

I can speak for myself. I am not doubting Gods word. Where is God's word? I have not even seen the gods word talkless of doubting it. Have you seen gods word?

HardMirror:
Just so you know and perhaps you can think...

1. No single evidence for creationism
2. There are thousands of evidence that supports evolution.
3. Creationism teaches that life came from nothing, yet creationists keep asking where life started with evolution?

There is absolutely no reason to believe a god created life and no evidence for it.

if you have evidence or superior arguement that supports creationism over evolution tell us, cause no one in the world has so far presented any evidence that life was created


Happy Sunday

Life itself is a long dream, it doesn't exist. It just as an atom figuring out where it is and its function in the morsel of eba í took this afternoon. Brother, those theories are mere mental torture.

KNOWMORE56:


How about the 1st man who we're told traveled to the moon... you in particular, did you doubt that?

You know the kind of question " free thinkers" used to ask - how did you know he traveled to the moon actually, were you there?

Consider the Op statement below. Does he agree the Bible is the word of God?

I doubt it but just because I've never met him. But being a contemporary of our time I know a lot of people believe that he's the first man on the moon because they knew him and they were live as he travelled in a space shuttle to the the outer space and returned.

Myer:


I intentionally ignore your mentions and posts because you're painfully predictable.

Every engagement with you starts and ends with promoting your organisation which imakes you sound mechanical.

Just decided to address the bolded.

Who am I shy of? You??

If I was an atheist I would gladly declare it.
But I'm not.
So stop constituting public nuisance on people's threads.

Well said Sir MaxInDHouse lives in delusion.


I once given a book where their organization is reason ' cell' in a few pages. That can fascinate an ignorant person like most in their organization. A degree holder in Biology or related courses would know that this Organization is a bunch of jokers.

I once had a encounter with one of them, trying to impress me with a topic he knew nothing about.

I told him,' you are just like a primary two pupil who was just taught, twinkle, twinkle, little star....'
On getting home, he asked his father, a Professor of Astronomy, daddy I know something you don't know.


The Dad said, ' tell me what you know'.
The small boy said, Stars are small, and they twinkle.'
The dad smiled at his ignorance but would not try to discuss with him.
Most of this people know next to nothing. The make so much noise about their ignorance, even in Christian faith they claim to profess!