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ariesbull:
You are right... I know many Okun that will not like to be called yoruba just like the Ilaje, the Akoko and even some Ijebu... They don't like the tag yoruba

yunqdady:
Any Okun person that claims Yoruba has not met with a Yoruba person from South West before.
Maybe such Okun person lives in the north or lives in Okun region or lives where yoruba people are.
Yoruba people will be the first to tell you you aren't part of them. But call you agatu, tapa, Ebira or abokiii. It is due to ignorance because majority of Yoruba people don't travel. And they are very tribalistic. Even their fellow people IN South West, they show tribalism, how much more you that is outside their region.
Nonsense.
Only the educated and INFORMED SW person will agree to Okun being called Yoruba.
I spent 17years in my little town here in Kogi West, and I always call myself Yoruba.
When I gained admission into a university in SW, I stopped.
I was made to feel inferior. My accent and some mispronounced words always make me stand out and I was laughed at. So why should I still claim to be who I was told I wasn't?
Although, I blended after a semester but that experience is enough to deny.
Yoruba people need history and geography lessons, too bad and poor!
Imagine someone living in facee and face you having guts to look down on you living well all because he's proper Oyo. Thunder faya them. Nonsense

yunqdady:
Any Okun person that claims Yoruba has not met with a Yoruba person from South West before.
Maybe such Okun person lives in the north or lives in Okun region or lives where yoruba people are.
Yoruba people will be the first to tell you you aren't part of them. But call you agatu, tapa, Ebira or abokiii. It is due to ignorance because majority of Yoruba people don't travel. And they are very tribalistic. Even their fellow people IN South West, they show tribalism, how much more you that is outside their region.
Nonsense.
Only the educated and INFORMED SW person will agree to Okun being called Yoruba.
I spent 17years in my little town here in Kogi West, and I always call myself Yoruba.
When I gained admission into a university in SW, I stopped.
I was made to feel inferior. My accent and some mispronounced words always make me stand out and I was laughed at. So why should I still claim to be who I was told I wasn't?
Although, I blended after a semester but that experience is enough to deny.
Yoruba people need history and geography lessons, too bad and poor!
Imagine someone living in facee and face you having guts to look down on you living well all because he's proper Oyo. Thunder faya them. Nonsense

yunqdady:
Any Okun person that claims Yoruba has not met with a Yoruba person from South West before.
Maybe such Okun person lives in the north or lives in Okun region or lives where yoruba people are.
Yoruba people will be the first to tell you you aren't part of them. But call you agatu, tapa, Ebira or abokiii. It is due to ignorance because majority of Yoruba people don't travel. And they are very tribalistic. Even their fellow people IN South West, they show tribalism, how much more you that is outside their region.
Nonsense.
Only the educated and INFORMED SW person will agree to Okun being called Yoruba.
I spent 17years in my little town here in Kogi West, and I always call myself Yoruba.
When I gained admission into a university in SW, I stopped.
I was made to feel inferior. My accent and some mispronounced words always make me stand out and I was laughed at. So why should I still claim to be who I was told I wasn't?
Although, I blended after a semester but that experience is enough to deny.
Yoruba people need history and geography lessons, too bad and poor!
Imagine someone living in facee and face you having guts to look down on you living well all because he's proper Oyo. Thunder faya them. Nonsense

walefresh3:
If you are a confirm Yoruba person u have no other choice... And no reason to denied your ethnicity because of some miscreant...
What u posted showed that u are an impostor pretending to be what you don't

walefresh3:
oga keep shot... If u are a Yoruba person u wont talked like dis ? You can hardly differentiate between ondo Yoruba and okun Yoruba... So who are the people discriminating you... Don't ever call yourself a Yoruba person with dis kind of attitude...

walefresh3:
oga keep shot... If u are a Yoruba person u wont talked like dis ? You can hardly differentiate between ondo Yoruba and okun Yoruba... So who are the people discriminating you... Don't ever call yourself a Yoruba person with dis kind of attitude...

ariesbull:
You are right. Seun is from Okun, she is my great babe then and she said she isn't yoruba but I told her that he name is... She said in clear terms she is Okun.

There is also this babe at ilupeju... She works with insurance firm.. Kemi is her name and she said that she isn't yoruba but ọkụn


I have also seen where yoruba deride ondo people calling them Omo Ibo yoruba that they aren't pure yoruba also

kollinzgee:
I have met countless Kogi people say this even though they are Yoruba speaking part of Kogi,one is Tunde from yagba and tbe other is oyindamola from kabba,it's not just an Igbo thing it's a Nationwide thing,a average Kogi sees himself as a distinct from Yoruba,e no go better for divide and rule people..

ariesbull:
Me i am not Yorùbá but I find it hard to even differentiate itshekiri and Yoruba or Ilaje and Yoruba

But if Okun say they aren't yoruba. So be it. They shouid be respected

Are they members of odua in Okun the way we have Ọhaneze in Anioma and ikwerre

paramakina202:
Do you speak Igbo to understand the difference in dialects?
Say what you know cos Yoruba also have different dialects.
In Igbo land every Village or town speaks their own dialect no town or village speaks what you call full language whatever that is.

meccuno:
Its only on Nairaland that a Yoruba man understands Igbo more than the people who own the language for him to tell us which one is full Igbo and half Igbo. This site is completely useless

yunqdady:
Yea, there are Oodua association
In fact, Okun is more Yoruba than some tribes in South West but those Yoruba ignoramus believe we aren't part of them due to geographical location. Many of them do not even know about anything called Okun.
It's ignorance on their part.
We have Obas, OPC, Oodua whatever whatever, cultural traditions same, ifa, osanyin, everything, dress, language all points to Yoruba.
Majority accepts being called Yoruba. Many do not even know about all these divisions until they leave the Okun land and see that many SW people don't recognise them.
Imagine all your life you have believed you are Yoruba, of course you are, but getting into the midst of the core Yoruba people, they deride you and call you fake Yoruba, agatu, aboki etc how would you feel?
We actually don't have to claim Yoruba to feel whole, we have the okun/yagba identity and its solid.
What should happen is education of the young ones about Okun people.
The elderly Yorubas, let's say 60years and above know but to the Young ones, life start and end in their local huts, any one outside is a stranger.
My cousin had a baby for an Oyo man, till today, the teenager is seen as an outcast just cos he's partly from Kogi yet he's a Okun part.
You can imagine.
Same way many Anambra sees Ebonyi people as not part of them.
It's sick!

yunqdady:
You get it.
I remember then, one Kabba lady in class, we almost fought, I told her she's Yoruba, she said no she's not. That her father told her she's Kabba/Okun and not Yoruba.
It was later on I understood her stand. The father must have been embarrassed before hence his stance.
It's just like Black Americans vs African Migrants in the US. That sort of beef.
When it's time for politics, they suddenly remember you are Yoruba but aside that, they insult and quote stupid history.
Even Ondo people sef, those Osun/Oyo people don't regard them.
Very tribalistic people.


I'm typing out of anger. But it's funny you people calling me impostor.
Don't worry, majority of Okun people accept being called Yoruba but few of us that have tasted tribalism prefer to choose our own identity as Okun/Yagba as the case may be.

acidosis, erokun sir, what's your take, I learnt you are from Isanlu. Do you see yourself as Yoruba or Okun?

paramakina202:
Ikegwuru

yunqdady:
Yea, there are Oodua association
In fact, Okun is more Yoruba than some tribes in South West but those Yoruba ignoramus believe we aren't part of them due to geographical location. Many of them do not even know about anything called Okun.
It's ignorance on their part.
We have Obas, OPC, Oodua whatever whatever, cultural traditions same, ifa, osanyin, everything, dress, language all points to Yoruba.
Majority accepts being called Yoruba. Many do not even know about all these divisions until they leave the Okun land and see that many SW people don't recognise them.
Imagine all your life you have believed you are Yoruba, of course you are, but getting into the midst of the core Yoruba people, they deride you and call you fake Yoruba, agatu, aboki etc how would you feel?
We actually don't have to claim Yoruba to feel whole, we have the okun/yagba identity and its solid.
What should happen is education of the young ones about Okun people.
The elderly Yorubas, let's say 60years and above know but to the Young ones, life start and end in their local huts, any one outside is a stranger.
My cousin had a baby for an Oyo man, till today, the teenager is seen as an outcast just cos he's partly from Kogi yet he's a Okun part.
You can imagine.
Same way many Anambra sees Ebonyi people as not part of them.
It's sick!

ariesbull:
I live in Lagos I know these... The yoruba don't even regard the ondo guys as pure yoruba... I know that one.. Even the akoko edo guys aren't even regarded and I know one or two okun people

DubaiLandLord:
Gibberish

akeeng:
how you doing bro? Long time.

I’m Yagba, not Yo’oba

tamdun:
Can u tell us the history of yagba and where they came from?

sirwilly5:
That's not true, most of the Yoruba people of Kogi proudly claim to be Yoruba.
It's different from the Igbo type.
For the Igbo type, most just have some dialect of Igbo but not full language.

For the Yoruba Kogi, they speak full Yoruba, so why would they deny being Yoruba? If they don't claim Yoruba, which tribe would they proudly claim[/quote
You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you

sirwilly5:
Yea that's very true.
Have never disputed that, all am saying is that let's stop all this no Igbo in delta or rivers, they are just afraid of being marginalized like the others in the south east.
Ameachi says he is Igbo and Emeka Nzeogwu who started all this is also from delta yet same people who say deltas are not Igbo's blame the Igbos for the coup.
We young one are busy fighting ourselves while the old folks who experienced the war are dinning together without any case against themselves

akeeng:
Yes, I can but I won’t. Thank you

juman:
Oba sikiru adetona said ijebu are from sudan, they are not yoruba.

sirwilly5:
You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you

yunqdady:
Ignorant yoruba people that have never stepped out of their brown root huts in their villages said we are not yoruba. Therefore we can't force ourselves to be what we are not. . We are Okun. We are not Yoruba. Nonsense

oyatz:
You don't have deep knowledge about what you are discussing.


* There is no language called Okun. Okun is the way ways Yorubas salute each other while working and it literally mean 'strength'

The word Okun was adopted based on the suggestions of the ace Historian, Prof Ade Obayemi and other elites from the old Kabba province as a name to identify certain Yoruba speaking people of the province that share close relationships.


There are other people that also speak Yoruba language in addition to thier distinct languages in Kogi but have assimilated substantial Nupe and Ebira population and thus consider themselves non-okun e.g Oworo and the Ogori-mangogo people respectively.

However, the most important issue is , do Okun people consider themselves as Yoruba?

The answer is an overwhelming YES.

AkalaJ:
@yunqdady: I've always held the view that anyone is free to be whoever he chooses to be. Your case is rather unfortunate because your obvious anger stems from firsthand experiences you had during several encounters with SW-based Yorubas. You're only human, therefore I cannot fault your reaction to these unwarranted/unpleasant experiences from your supposed kinsmen.

Their attitude towards you was borne out of sheer ignorance. Let's just say Nigeria happened to all of us; we're all victims of the geographical fraud that previous administrations perpetrated on our race to balkanize, divide, and engender this exact attitudes towards one another.

However, in spite of all of that, I would still urge you to sheathe your sword out of maturity. You have more to gain as a component of the larger yoruba family than as an ethnic minority (there's power in numbers). There may well come a time when the geographical aberration/anomaly that birthed this problem would be redressed once and for all. All the best.

nisai:
Bro, there are such ignorant tribalists everywhere, even within South west Yorubas, even within Kogi west Yorubas. Every Okun person is Yoruba by default so don't give up your larger identity because of some ignorants.