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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 10:49am On Jan 09, 2022
KolaShangOne:


If your Land is water logged, then you can only use red bricks for your superstructure. It must be away from water.

I sent get this sir, "I can only use it, it must be away from water"...my land is in "water" already
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IDnoble80: 11:04am On Jan 09, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Oga Brabus / N3xt.. Truth be told.. this is not tenable..



There's nothing that concerns your client with you recovering money from YOUR own suppliers.. Should he wait and wait till you settle with your own suppliers

Working on 3 new project so you don't want them to think it's their money? All these are just mere excuses.

You personally are worth alot of millions if I'm not mistaken. You have alot of dump trucks, machines and other stuff. If you spend 5million today, why will a client think its his money? You are capable of even obtaining a loan to clear this mess to protect your name. A name is really important.

It's been at least 3 months after termination of contract. Full refund should have been issued for jobs not done.

I've been avoiding commenting on this matter because I don't have all the facts and I honestly can't do the long back and forth read..

Oga Rotech said he spoke to you for over 1 hour on this matter too.

Ogami you have said it all jare… this guy is not ready to refund any dime!! He is just buying time and hope everything will die down!

And you believe he is working on 3 project has claimed ? I laugh… you are working on 3 project and you can’t refund 1m naira?

He knows oga somehow will be tired and the case will die a natural dead.. shameful excuses from him.

This man doesn’t have a single conscience. Damn

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Laren24(m): 11:07am On Jan 09, 2022
mountmoriah:


I will send my little token to you, if it card you will use it to buy or data and card,na you know but I know it will go a long way rather than stroll away and feel I don't care, accept it, it my little token.

Message me on WhatsApp through my signature
Thank you very much sir, I have messaged on WhatsApp Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 11:20am On Jan 09, 2022
Ggee:
Agreed sir. That is why I have 1 person from this group working on my project and another pencilled down at the appropriate time.


Happy blessed Sunday, God bless you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 11:26am On Jan 09, 2022
Laren24:

Thank you very much sir, I have messaged on WhatsApp Sir.
I have seen your message, I'm in pchurch, don't quote me here again, ok
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 11:45am On Jan 09, 2022
folmus:


Wahala for 2022. One hasn't finished. Make we kuku dey go for baba Lati.
No.
Good service providers are still here.
We are still here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:46am On Jan 09, 2022
IDnoble80:


Ogami you have said it all jare… this guy is not ready to refund any dime!! He is just buying time and hope everything will die down!

And you believe he is working on 3 project has claimed ? I laugh… you are working on 3 project and you can’t refund 1m naira?

He knows oga somehow will be tired and the case will die a natural dead.. shameful excuses from him.

This man doesn’t have a single conscience. Damn

I understand your point bro but we are all in business for different reasons.

If you give me N1,000 job, I’d put the same energy I’d put in N10,000,000 job into it.

My contractors overhead and profit on the project is less than N750,000. That’s less than N1,500 per day if I spent 60 days on the project.
Do you think it’s the money that drove me in?

Yet I have 2 generators, welding machines, block making machine, mixers, pumping machine, compactor and other tools of trade to be used on the project.

I’m passion driven and not what most people think.

_______

In one of the bill passed across to me, I saw a contractor charging 50,000 for generator rentage. That’s like 12.5% of my overhead and profit combined.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IDnoble80: 11:53am On Jan 09, 2022
n3xt:


I understand your point bro but we are all in business for different reasons.

If you give me N1,000 job, I’d put the same energy I’d put in N10,000,000 job into it.

My contractors overhead and profit on the project is less than N750,000. That’s less than N1,500 per day if I spent 60 days on the project.
Do you think it’s the money that drove me in?

Yet I have 2 generators, welding machines, block making machine, mixers, pumping machine, compactor and other tools of trade to be used on the project.

I’m passion driven and not what most people think.

_______

In one of the bill passed across to me, I saw a contractor charging 50,000 for generator rentage. That’s like 12.5% of my overhead and profit combined.

You don’t get it do you? Do you think that all the contractors here don’t always have issues? Some of them handle it in a mature way… this is what you lack, you always waiting for your issue to get blown overboard before you start reacting… this was supposed to be a small issue between you and the client. But you refused to handle it well…

Since the matter is here all we want to know is when are you refunding? And probably you have a payment plan… commit to this and do it bro

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:55am On Jan 09, 2022
KolaShangOne:


You personally are worth alot of millions if I'm not mistaken. You have alot of dump trucks, machines and other stuff.


Bro I don’t have lots of dump trucks. I bought only one and I sold it off because I don’t have the energy to manage transportation wahala.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:11pm On Jan 09, 2022
IDnoble80:


You don’t get it do you? Do you think that all the contractors here don’t always have issues? Some of them handle it in a mature way… this is what you lack, you always waiting for your issue to get blown overboard before you start reacting… this was supposed to be a small issue between you and the client. But you refused to handle it well…

Since the matter is here all we want to know is when are you refunding? And probably you have a payment plan… commit to this and do it bro

I kuku understand everyone have one or the other issues they manage on their project and I also know when it’s a Brabus issue, it’s always an epic series with lots of intriguing cues and moments.

Everyone wants to have a bite and we end up blowing things out of proportion.
_______

Sincerely I no get money, that’s why I’m unable to commit to a date or figure BUT I’ll definitely do a refund.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Itsrm(m): 12:25pm On Jan 09, 2022
n3xt:


I understand your point bro but we are all in business for different reasons.

If you give me N1,000 job, I’d put the same energy I’d put in N10,000,000 job into it.

My contractors overhead and profit on the project is less than N750,000. That’s less than N1,500 per day if I spent 60 days on the project.
Do you think it’s the money that drove me in?

Yet I have 2 generators, welding machines, block making machine, mixers, pumping machine, compactor and other tools of trade to be used on the project.

I’m passion driven and not what most people think.

_______

In one of the bill passed across to me, I saw a contractor charging 50,000 for generator rentage. That’s like 12.5% of my overhead and profit combined.

With all the generators, welding machines and several others that you have, the client/QS said your quotation was the highest of all they received.

Kind of confusing to me as I would expect yours to be significantly cheaper.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:53pm On Jan 09, 2022
n3xt:


I kuku understand everyone have one or the other issues they manage on their project and I also know when it’s a Brabus issue, it’s always an epic series with lots of intriguing cues and moments.

Everyone wants to have a bite and we end up blowing things out of proportion.
_______

Sincerely I no get money, that’s why I’m unable to commit to a date or figure BUT I’ll definitely do a refund.
What a shame, isn't this what you could have told your client before this issue became a subject of debate for close to 6 months now. This is a big lesson for other contractors to learn, money is not easy to raise. When clients send you money please try to manage it prudent manner. Brabus you understand very well as a computer science student that the internet does NOT forgive and forget with this additional damage, you must understand what this issue has done to your reputation trying to proof a point. You wasted your productive hours and many other mediating on this matter. Please check yourself out. Are sure your village people are not behind you bros, this does not make any sense to me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 12:53pm On Jan 09, 2022
n3xt:


I kuku understand everyone have one or the other issues they manage on their project and I also know when it’s a Brabus issue, it’s always an epic series with lots of intriguing cues and moments.

Everyone wants to have a bite and we end up blowing things out of proportion.
_______

Sincerely I no get money, that’s why I’m unable to commit to a date or figure BUT I’ll definitely do a refund.


I so much enjoy your talks here I love people who are not limited my "this is how it has always been done", you try to be innovative, try new things and that is what I like about you,
But you handled this poorly,
First of all
If from the onsent you knew that you didn't have enough money to pay the debt, you shouldn't have been dragging the issue with your client and the QS on this surface, with all your talks on business, I am really surprised this is coming from you.
It's as simple as having a WhatsAppconference call with your client and his qs and dispute their figures, thereby arriving at a reasonable figure from as far back as Oct.
2. Even when the issue became blown, you made it look like it's a me against them fight, the truth is that you built a beautiful house for your client, which I followed from start to where it stopped, no matter what you should have done everything possible to complete it, taking a break of just a week to go back to your old site would have done justice to it. You didn't
You looked for excuse and faltered.
3.you have succeeded in making your people happy, there are so many people waiting for you to fail, so that they can come up with shebi we told you, we warned you , bla bla bla and you were aware of all this, cos they did it openly, you saw them, but you still couldn't complete the building.
Pls as things stand now
Go back to rotech discuss with him, man to man
I will be able to pay this money by so so.and so date
And I will pay this so so and so amount.
No one needs to be told somehow is a fine gentle man. He was patient, he is calm and very lenient, but above all he is considerate. I can assure you that if two people talk to him he might give you more time.


Lastly
I am so sorry to say this.
your issue is spiritual, trust me on this, I read up.there that you don't drink, obviously you don't smoke, you sound like someone passionate and above all you are full of ideas, I saw your kids video on Instagram, how they are doing things from their young age with your help and I can say you are. Great father too
Pls look for a pastor or go to a cele church

Walai
There are unseen forces that are making you go through all these stress and I know you don't want it either.
You are just trying to survive and not be swallowed up

God will bless you abundantly brother.
Keep fighting
I am rooting for you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 12:54pm On Jan 09, 2022
kopell:
What a shame, isn't this what you could have told your client before this issue became a subject of debate for close to 6 months now. This is a big lesson for other contractors to learn, money is not easy to raise. When clients send you money please try to manage prudently. Brabus you understand very well as a computer science student that the internet does NOT forgive and forget with this additional damage, you must understand what this issue has done to your reputation trying to proof a point. You wasted your productive hours and many other mediating on this matter. Please check yourself out. Are sure your village people are not behind you bros, this does not make any sense to me.

Lol me and you reason the same thing and types it the same time
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 12:57pm On Jan 09, 2022
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 1:17pm On Jan 09, 2022
Greenarrow01:


Lol me and you reason the same thing and types it the same time
God has answered his prayers, maybe we are angel God sent to him, don't give your money to those fake pastors and alfa's in process of getting spiritual help ooo. Your God is as close as vein of your neck to you, continue praying, God will deliver you from the bondage. We type the message alike and posted exactly at 12:53 from different parts of the world. Brabus, please seek spiritual help, the lord will keep protecting you. This is one to many, it's a serious matter. Please pay attention to it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:23pm On Jan 09, 2022
kopell:
What a shame, isn't this what you could have told your client before this issue became a subject of debate for close to 6 months now. This is a big lesson for other contractors to learn, money is not easy to raise. When clients send you money please try to manage it prudent manner. Brabus you understand very well as a computer science student that the internet does NOT forgive and forget with this additional damage, you must understand what this issue has done to your reputation trying to proof a point. You wasted your productive hours and many other mediating on this matter. Please check yourself out. Are sure your village people are not behind you bros, this does not make any sense to me.

And you believe sir that I don’t have the fund to handle the roof installation despite showing that I paid a QS here 200k just to prepare me a bill (in less than 48 hours) to bid for another project

Even if I don’t make money from my Ibadan project, at worse I’d earn at least 300k per unit on the 6 buildings we raised between May - July 2021.

We didn’t get here because of the refund. We got here because it’s hard to find a replacement for me and some think I deserved to be punished and made unhappy too.
Otherwise those whose quote are lower than mine are supposed to have easily fill in the gap without the need to pay additional extras on the project.
At least I was still selling block and cement 200 and 3,000 as at the date the contract was terminated.

It’s not village people. I knew most people here don’t like me to succeed. Even my client told me their names even before we begin the project and I knew it’s a thing of joy for them to see the project crumble.

_______

On issue of prudency, pls sir can you mention one material, I didn’t buy on the project as at when due.

I bought 90% of reinforcement for the project during foundation stage. Chekitaut supplied 70% of the granite used on the project before we break ground. We produced all the blocks needed for the project before the end of May. We were even selling to other people later. I bought 90% of the formwork required for the project before we started the foundation.

What else should I have bought that I didn’t buy or supplied as at when needed?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 1:28pm On Jan 09, 2022
dapotemi:


I sent get this sir, "I can only use it, it must be away from water"...my land is in "water" already
if you land is in the water already, it won't remain in the water after it has been built, your landscape or compound would be built in such a way it won't be waterlogged.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:29pm On Jan 09, 2022
kopell:
God has answered his prayers, maybe we are angel God sent to him, don't give your money to those fake pastors and alfa's in process of getting spiritual help ooo. Your God is as close as vein of your neck to you, continue praying, God will deliver you from the bondage. We type the message alike and posted exactly at 12:53 from different parts of the world. Brabus, please seek spiritual help, the lord will keep protecting you. This is one to many, it's a serious matter. Please pay attention to it.

I pray to my God and he answers me.

My job speaks for me. That’s why you won’t see me asking anyone to patronize me, God will bless you. We will not fail you blah blah.

I cannot count the number of request I turned down last year.

May the Lord recompense us all according to our deeds.

_____

While we were having this discussion, requests are coming in.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 1:37pm On Jan 09, 2022
kopell:
God has answered his prayers, maybe we are angel God sent to him, don't give your money to those fake pastors and alfa's in process of getting spiritual help ooo. Your God is as close as vein of your neck to you, continue praying, God will deliver you from the bondage. We type the message alike and posted exactly at 12:53 from different parts of the world. Brabus, please seek spiritual help, the lord will keep protecting you. This is one to many, it's a serious matter. Please pay attention to it.

There are some pastors that are good and won't take dime from him

Plus if he can pray by himself it's better.
But some of those pastors have eyes that see, he just shouldn't fall into the hands of fraudsters.
Sometimes they will ask you to do something as simple as buying a white cloth for your grandmother and your problems will be solved. Shikena
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:39pm On Jan 09, 2022
Itsrm:


With all the generators, welding machines and several others that you have, the client/QS said your quotation was the highest of all they received.

Kind of confusing to me as I would expect yours to be significantly cheaper.

Interestingly we do talk and I won’t want to share some of their conversations here.

They were even asking me “How do you make profit from your projects?”

If you doubt me, I’d share screenshot of my conversation with one of the contractors who bid for the contract.

He might be a double-faced person or true to his word but I know we do chat all the time.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 1:44pm On Jan 09, 2022
Greenarrow01:



2. Even when the issue became blown, you made it look like it's a me against them fight, the truth is that you built a beautiful house for your client, which I followed from start to where it stopped, no matter what you should have done everything possible to complete it, taking a break of just a week to go back to your old site would have done justice to it. You didn't
You looked for excuse and faltered.
I was following the xtrillion thread, the project was the type i pray i would handle from scratch, but here we are, an opportunity wasted, it remains a mystery how he was able to knock off other bids. Even when the house gets completed he would in no way be proud to lay claim to it. What a pity

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:52pm On Jan 09, 2022
On every project, there are always two type of people - a fire igniter and a fire extinguisher.

Beware of who you listen to.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:06pm On Jan 09, 2022
folmus:


Wahala for 2022. One hasn't finished. Make we kuku dey go for baba Lati.

That’s what I do Sir.

Me and my Baba Bilikis know how we handle each other.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 2:08pm On Jan 09, 2022
BrickDevo:

I was following the xtrillion thread, the project was the type i pray i would handle from scratch, but here we are, an opportunity wasted, it remains a mystery how he was able to knock off other bids. Even when the house gets completed he would in no way be proud to lay claim to it. What a pity
I swear
He did over 80perent of the job there
And imagine that beautiful house getting completed and you won't be able to lay claim to it

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 2:24pm On Jan 09, 2022
Greenarrow01:

I swear
He did over 80perent of the job there
And imagine that beautiful house getting completed and you won't be able to lay claim to it
It's well, this too shall pass
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 2:29pm On Jan 09, 2022
Bros,
Take this matter offline, speak to rotecch and your client, reach an agreement on what you will pay and how you will pay. Forget about who is right or wrong, put aside ego or pride, a concrete agreement/settlement may not necessarily be the QS' report - from my perception of your client, he seems to be a kind person. By the time you achieve this, you channel your energy into other things more productive, unless you derive pleasure in controversies, I wouldn't know.
Kopell and Greenarrow01 have said alot on this matter today.

n3xt:


Interestingly we do talk and I won’t want to share some of their conversations here.

They were even asking me “How do you make profit from your projects?”

If you doubt me, I’d share screenshot of my conversation with one of the contractors who bid for the contract.

He might be a double-faced person or true to his word but I know we do chat all the time.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 2:32pm On Jan 09, 2022
n3xt:


And you believe sir that I don’t have the fund to handle the roof installation despite showing that I paid a QS here 200k just to prepare me a bill (in less than 48 hours) to bid for another project

Even if I don’t make money from my Ibadan project, at worse I’d earn at least 300k per unit on the 6 buildings we raised between May - July 2021.

We didn’t get here because of the refund. We got here because it’s hard to find a replacement for me and some think I deserved to be punished and made unhappy too.
Otherwise those whose quote are lower than mine are supposed to have easily fill in the gap without the need to pay additional extras on the project.
At least I was still selling block and cement 200 and 3,000 as at the date the contract was terminated.

It’s not village people. I knew most people here don’t like me to succeed. Even my client told me their names even before we begin the project and I knew it’s a thing of joy for them to see the project crumble.

_______

On issue of prudency, pls sir can you mention one material, I didn’t buy on the project as at when due.

I bought 90% of reinforcement for the project during foundation stage. Chekitaut supplied 70% of the granite used on the project before we break ground. We produced all the blocks needed for the project before the end of May. We were even selling to other people later. I bought 90% of the formwork required for the project before we started the foundation.

What else should I have bought that I didn’t buy or supplied as at when needed?

Many people do want you to suceed...your client is one of them....I am also one of them...do it,but do it right at all times...sht happens but fix it.
Remember i did ask you to talk to the client Privately but you do it here instead... you still may not have not spoken with him since last 31.

Remember you brought this here not him now you are blaming people for blowing it out proportion ??

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by flexyonline: 2:54pm On Jan 09, 2022
Good afternoon folks. Please who knows where I can get these home theatre chairs at a price that will not send me back to the village? Any o pointers will be appreciated

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:54pm On Jan 09, 2022
Request: Neatly Used Marine Boards Urgently Needed

Anyone with information on where I can get neatly used marine boards for sale should please kindly share with.

I need about 50 - 70 pcs to add to the one in my stock to use on a project.

Budget: 7,000 - 8,500 per unit (depending on how neat it is).
Location: Lagos

I’d arrange to pickup from any part of Lagos.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 3:02pm On Jan 09, 2022
flexyonline:
Good afternoon folks. Please who knows where I can get these home theatre chairs at a price that will not send me back to the village? Any o pointers will be appreciated

[s][/s]
one guy has the single unit but it’s about every 1m sha [s][/s]

Sold
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 3:26pm On Jan 09, 2022
flexyonline:
Good afternoon folks. Please who knows where I can get these home theatre chairs at a price that will not send me back to the village? Any o pointers will be appreciated

You're funny, village people no need those kinds of theater chairs to bring one back to village. They see through the wall. May Almighty contenting to protect us from them ni oo

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