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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 3:26pm On Jan 09, 2022*. Modified: 3:50pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
I can see that some people are easily impressed with "packaging" ,flowery language and not the contents/results of projects. There are over 10 disgruntled clients/ multi-million naira abandoned projects from the same fraudster builder on this thread. The disdain for clients is so palpable. He is already boasting of having several new requests and jobs (inotherwords "the damage I have done in this case is not affecting me. I am already onto the NEXT project" ) It seems that some people on this thread do not also recognize the sociopathic behaviour which our resident fraudster exhibits. Someone that has been on this same platform doing the same shoddy/uncompleted jobs and moving on from abandoned project to the next. Some people do not see this for what it is- Building construction scam. PLAIN AND SIMPLE I am also in the construction industry. Every project has contingencies. Simple pattern recognition tells me that this is cultivated behaviour that has continued because clients have limited way of making him pay. I learnt this lesson a long time ago...Construction projects are of the nature that a contractor has the upper hand because an uncompleted and delayed project is FAR more expensive than one that runs over-budget. Any contractor can decide to leave your project when they can see that they will not make as much profits as projected, or continuing does not benefit them. What prevents this is a person's INTEGRITY/REPUTATION and signed contracts . We have seen over and over again, the same modus operandi. -Quote and sign a contract for a project. -Be all nice and respectful until money changes hands. -Start the project quickly showing considerable progress. -Stop work suddenly claiming all sorts of contingencies -Abandon project -Inevitable conflict between the client and contractor arises. -The other disrestpecful side come out (calling clients names, disclosing private information, refusal to resolve issues amicably, withholding of project funds, etc) -When the issue has died down, resume work using pictures from other botched project This has been happening this platform for close to 10 years. From my estimate on the project in question. The client is probably at least 4 million in the hole, so he is being magnanimous to request only 2million We did not even consider the loss of time/rental/resale income from the property (if that was the purpose). I have said enough. When I have time, I will get the history of our fraudster builder's project history on this thread catalogued, so that newcomers can be informed and we can move on to sharing information that helps people . Shalom |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 3:34pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
Stopthecap:shalom |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:37pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
rmx:Yep!
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 4:12pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
Stopthecap:Gbam this your analysis is spot on. Bosun has over the years done this to several unsuspecting clients over the years and unfortunately has been getting away with it. This case should be the last here as he needs to refund somehow before being given a platform to post his internet packaging builds for the unwary who think he is genuine. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:15pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
Stopthecap:Interesting! The contractor didn’t leave during: >> Foundation >> Framing >> Walling >> Slabs >> Roof Trusses He choose leave after he has purchased: >> Atrium Glass (even made second payment for the same glass after it broke that’s yet to be recovered) >> U-channel and other accessories for the installation of the atrium roof >> Roofing Tarp >> Engaged roof installer to come for measurement and installation. Sigh! Do you care to find out how much balance is yet to be collected by the contractor? Do you care to find what work was going on on the day of termination of the contract? ________ Let me teach you something sir. You can throw it away though but that’s what I do different. A POP contractor here was once reported to me by a client that he’s delaying his job and the client is getting agitated as a result. I asked him “How much balance he has left?” He told me and I told him “Let me speak with him in a language he can understand.” The pop contractor apparently was applying a method that’s not working and didn’t see the urgency in the completion of the work as the client deemed it. The situation was managed and not complicated for both client and the contractor. The pop contractor finished his job and collected his balance after I stepped in and checked that the job is satisfactorily completed. We could go the other way and start exerting negative energies. Once again, conflicts are inevitable in any construction contract. It makes no sense sitting at ring side waiting and watching who wins and who cries. #mediation
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 4:24pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 4:47pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
n3xt:Bro You are doing more damages Than good. Why do you think everybody is on one side and you alone is on the other side It cos this time You are over wrong and it's visible for everyone to see I for one have been rooting and rooted for you. I have this plain mind that even a bad person can be good And I am not saying you were bad before I wasn't here for 10 years Let's forget the past On this issue you are wrong That's why no one is supporting you Thais one no one is reasoning with you. All what you need to do is clearly simple and straight forward somehow I will make the refund of so so and so amount by. So so so and so date. For Heaven sake.the client is not a fool You can't be owing someone money and be dictating things It is not done any where. Like you are here saying you are getting so so and so project But you can't refund the 1m or 2m of somehow Koda you are even saying You don't have money and you don't know when you will see the money. Who does that. Even if from all the contract brouhaha you are the right person and somehow is wrong, for God sake you admitted his money is with you and why are you not making attempt to even pay that back. .you are just insulting the man with all your utterances. Me that told my wife that you will be the one to build my kobokobo house You think I will see all this online and still want to do business with you. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 4:51pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
MMotimo:Dear all, see verified victim list above. Bosun ask yourself what has changed over the years? Clients be warned and go and read up the sad experiences of people who thought they were dealing with a professional and reputable contractor. So sad and disappointing as I has been rooting for you but a leopard cannot change his spots. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 4:54pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 4:56pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 4:58pm On Jan 09, 2022*. Modified: 6:32pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
n3xt:Mr Fraudster, If you have noticed, I have not joined issues with you on this platform since our last "toss-up" over 5 years ago (Where you lied unprovoked), but since you addressed me.... I AM NOT THE ONE IN QUESTION. I am not fooled, distracted or swayed by your unnecessary words and stories. You can type all the words in the dictionary. A simple and stright-forward man has simple answers. 'Yes' is 'yes' and 'No' is 'No' Matthew 5:37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. I asked you some questions publicly on this platform over 6 years ago with no response. 1. What University /polytechnic did you study any of the building professions? (Civil,architecture,Construction PM, Building tech etc) 2. In the absence of the above, under whom did you apprentice and learn? 3. In the absence of the above, Give the forum a list of major projects you have handled from START TO FINISH with references. On this issue. 1. Is it in question that you did not complete your job as the contract stipulated?-NO 2. Is it in question that there is outstanding work that you have been paid for?-NO 3. Is it in question that the Client terminated the contract for cause?- Unnecessary delay and abandon of work.NO 4. When given advance notice of your dismissal for delay and performance, did you comply with the client directive to submit a handover report for final appraisal-NO 5. Even for the uncompleted work not in question) have you made it clear on your repayment plan?-NO (you are already past due) Amongst other questions. Answering one or more of those above would be fairly simple Please save your epistles for other folks. I don't need It PS. conflicts are not inevitable when people are straightforward. Many of your clients have been more than civil and understanding with you despite your uncouth behaviour |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 4:59pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 5:00pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 5:09pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
somehow:May you recover and rebound from the unnecessary wahala of our resident building fraudster |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 5:17pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 5:33pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
yincalley: l have agreed on your 60K payment offer. [/b]The challenge is what u kept saying "u will pay when u have money". When u will pay is not define. [b] [/b]l just hope u wouldn't find it difficult to pay 60K for years[b]. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 5:40pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 5:44pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 5:56pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
For those who those who think this is not a scam concept I will share an example of what construction scam looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR93DsMgRls |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 6:19pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
Concerning the issue between @Somehow and @Next. I will be blunt and straight to the point. 1. Today @Somehow is WARNING people to avoid @Next by all means. Yesterday @somehow INTENTIONALLY ignored the same warning here and decided to test the fire with his own hand. What does he expect? 2. @Somehow has been around here to have a first hand information concerning @next, what was he trying to prove by engaging @next? 3. @Somehow ought not to be in this situation he find himself with @next in the first place. 4. The saddest part of the whole issue is, some people, after reading @Somehow's warning today, will ;just like @Somehow did yesterday, ignore and engage @next tomorrow. 5. @Somehow, IF you can let go of the money, please do. As an adult,you cannot INTENTIONALLY put your hand inside fire and expect not to be burnt. I come in peace ooo! |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 6:28pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 6:29pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 6:32pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
Bosun Davies shoyeye Brabus brabusng nexthome n3xt Is a thief , a criminal, a fraudster, a pathological liar and a cheat. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 6:47pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
n3xt:OLOSHI !
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 7:01pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 7:04pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 7:07pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:09pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:20pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
EgunMogaji2:chai emeka |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 7:22pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 7:25pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:26pm On Jan 09, 2022*. Modified: 5:17pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Taking quotation for roofing of this edifice. Labor only, all materials are already on ground. Range #150- #200 per square meter. Total area is approx. 800 square meter. Location SE |
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