Skseries:
lol, we don't have to wait for long, it all starts march 3rd, if that were true, then WB shud be running after the Russo brothers or don't you think so?

AnfieldFan:


Not sure this is entirely correct...CBM fans didn't like it very much but general audience liked it....It also did ok with critics and grossed 894.9 million(Grossed more than BVS)...

But I agree with you, Snyder had to do a lot of things with little run-time so he failed understandably...But those characters didn't have soul and I feel even if you gave Snyder more movies, he still wouldn't be able to do that...
Lemme give you an example, Aquaman by Wan left us feeling Aquaman more which in turn makes you invested in his story... Directors sometimes manifest this with a romantic love interest or with something passionate to the character...

Another example; People are looking forward to Peacemaker, why you might ask considering he shared screentime with other characters in an ensemble movie. The answer is simple, Gunn managed to get people invested in the guys story despite a short arc in the movie..

In the first SS movie, Ayer did this with Deadshot and Harley Quinn by humanizing Deadshot through his daughter (Will's a great actor so it helped) and even though the film wasn't too good, it had bright spots..

A director who can make people connect with characters can will always be regarded as better than those who can make great action sequences...

People say a lot about ZJL but I've seen the two and I still reiterate, both movies are more or less the same with the difference being Snyder's work wasn't edited(Everything he filmed was in the movie). Had JL opened in theaters with that 4hour run-time, it might have even performed more poorly than Whedon's own..

SMUAG:
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If they run after the Russo's brothers then I will be one of the happiest guy on earth...
Those guys are different breed o... Didn't you see their first movie with MCU, The Winter Soldier.....that movie is god tier.....
From their first movie with the MCU, Kevin Feige knew he has found a gem despite their first was against MCU's style....
Moreover, those guys are just like Messi or CR7 in CBM world! You can't easily toss them around or sign them just like that.
For clarity sake; James Gunn was/is just a means to an end, my brother.... He can be tossed....

SMUAG:


Bro, there is no CBM released on streaming platform that won't be intensively pirated.
At least not the very poor reception from cinema goers.....
That movie never appeal to the wider audience like you think, if not we won't got a box office disaster.
Movies like The Conjuring, Space Jam, Tom and Jerry and few other WB movies debuted day and day with their streaming platform: HBO Max but still managed to outgross TSS either domestically or world wide. And it's no brainer to know those movies I mentioned here are not even better movies ( very poor movies ).

Minemrys:

Let's be honest, the real brain behind the MCU is Kevin feige. If you send Ayer over to the MCU, he would produce something that is critically acclaimed cause he will be working with people who know what they want and how they want it.

TonySpike:


Even Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead which was heavily pirated become one of the top ten movies of all time on Netflix. Let them bring more excuses for TSS.

Skseries:
I gave up when u said avater isn't anything special without James Cameron name in it. But bros I fear u oo, ah! No be avatar the cartoon o.

But I done tire for argument, so whatever u say my Lord, u are right!

Skseries:
lol have watched several justice league cartoon and they didn't have to kill supes to form justice league, simply put a big enuf crises and super heroes will turn up to fight and realise they need to work together, a typical example was WW turning up just to help protect the earth in batman V superman, the crisis is enuf to make all hero converge.

My fav justice league cartoon just had an alien invasion to set up justice league

TonySpike:


Even Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead which was heavily pirated become one of the top ten movies of all time on Netflix. Let them bring more excuses for TSS.

SMUAG:


No, they won't see that, but assuming AotD failed then you will see them pouring all the hates they can give... I can still recall vividly how one person here even chastised Snyder going to work with a small studio like Netflix - saying it shows he's a bad director....

Minemrys:

Oga, in my opinion I don't see anything special in that film. I saw it once and I am not ready to see it. I don't praise films cause the general audience or critics love or hate it. Or cause a particular director is behind it. I am the kind of person that doesn't get the hype for certain films like star wars, game of thrones, Lord of the rings. I hate the Nolan film about time loop that came out last year even if critics praised it.
The earlier you realize some films get higher ratings than others just because of the names behind it, you discover the whole thing is all about opinion and opinions getting influenced.

Minemrys:

Yeah, then you got to wonder why no one showed up during the MOS event or at Midway City when enchantress was on the rout.
Of course you can use an alien invasion but how do you explain amateur heroes suddenly banding together when everyone of them were low profile. It all boiled down to the story and how the world was set up.
The only way the JL could have been formed in the dceu was by the government, just as in the MCU. Superman was never going to do it.
I no even want argue am. Superman's death gave the world a sense of fear and helped developed the other characters whom we weren't able to get their solo films, which then boils down to world building. Superman being around would have halted some character development, particularly Batman, Aquaman and Cyborg.
And I am sure you won't be happy if they had created a plot device to reduce Superman's scenes in the film.

AnfieldFan:


Not sure this is entirely correct...CBM fans didn't like it very much but general audience liked it....It also did ok with critics and grossed 894.9 million(Grossed more than BVS)...

But I agree with you, Snyder had to do a lot of things with little run-time so he failed understandably...But those characters didn't have soul and I feel even if you gave Snyder more movies, he still wouldn't be able to do that...
Lemme give you an example, Aquaman by Wan left us feeling Aquaman more which in turn makes you invested in his story... Directors sometimes manifest this with a romantic love interest or with something passionate to the character...

Another example; People are looking forward to Peacemaker, why you might ask considering he shared screentime with other characters in an ensemble movie. The answer is simple, Gunn managed to get people invested in the guys story despite a short arc in the movie..

In the first SS movie, Ayer did this with Deadshot and Harley Quinn by humanizing Deadshot through his daughter (Will's a great actor so it helped) and even though the film wasn't too good, it had bright spots..

A director who can make people connect with characters can will always be regarded as better than those who can make great action sequences...

People say a lot about ZJL but I've seen the two and I still reiterate, both movies are more or less the same with the difference being Snyder's work wasn't edited(Everything he filmed was in the movie). Had JL opened in theaters with that 4hour run-time, it might have even performed more poorly than Whedon's own..

PurpLChi:


There is no way ZSJL would have performed lesser than Whedon's trash...there is no way you can watch both movies and not see the glaring differences unless you're just biased.
The movie was soomany people's best movie for 2021 for a reason.

And talking about the characters didn't have soul is mind boggling...you mentioned Aquaman having a love interest, didn't Clark have Lois Was Batman not still clearly hurting from his parents death??Even WW retired cos of her lover's death.

PurpLChi:
Zack is a genius and he has already left his mark in Hollywood if grown men can just wake up on a Sunday morning and start arguing about his films.

AnfieldFan:


So many people's best movie who mostly happen to be DC/ Snyder fans..
Purple, the 4 hour long Justice league movie we saw wouldn't perform much better than Whedon's version...

Superman had a love interest in his movie but didn't have any chemistry; infact, one of my biggest peeves in Man of Steel(and this was really big in the criticism it got) aside letting his father die was how inconsequential Lois was in the movie, their romance felt shoehorned because Clark has to have Lois..

Batman was an emotionless shell who was branding people in BVS(In Snyder's mind, it was supposed to be badass but ultimately,it was flat and lame) .. Someone who's experienced too many losses in his life including the death of Robin stopped pummeling Supes because their mothers share the same names...

I didn't talk about Wonder woman because Patty actually gave her soul...

I won't talk about Snyder again... I'm looking forward to future DCEU releases and wish them the best because I believe MCU needs a prominent competitor...

SMUAG:
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If they run after the Russo's brothers then I will be one of the happiest guy on earth...
Those guys are different breed o... Didn't you see their first movie with MCU, The Winter Soldier.....that movie is god tier.....
From their first movie with the MCU, Kevin Feige knew he has found a gem despite their first was against MCU's style....
Moreover, those guys are just like Messi or CR7 in CBM world! You can't easily toss them around or sign them just like that.
For clarity sake; James Gunn was/is just a means to an end, my brother.... He can be tossed....

Minemrys:

Let's be honest, the real brain behind the MCU is Kevin feige. If you send Ayer over to the MCU, he would produce something that is critically acclaimed cause he will be working with people who know what they want and how they want it.

TonySpike:


Even Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead which was heavily pirated become one of the top ten movies of all time on Netflix. Let them bring more excuses for TSS.

abduleez1:


Not much we haven't heard of.

Some details are months old now sha.

BlackManta:
Where are they gonna get the money to do this properly
I like that the show runners are very ambitious people... maybe too ambitious

Xavier5:
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BlackManta:
Where are they gonna get the money to do this properly
I like that the show runners are very ambitious people... maybe too ambitious

Xavier5:

Nickshrapnel:
I don’t know what you guys have against ZSJL, that movie had everything, if it had released in 2017, the only complaint against it would be the 4 hour run time