sonmvayina:
The bible is divided into two parts.

The Tanakh which comprises Genesis to Malachi. These book belongs to the jews. They were written by their scribes and elites. It is for their national religion called Judaism. The heart and soul of these is the Torah which contains God's laws..

sonmvayina:

The second part called the new testament or the Christian testament is from Mathew to relegation. It was written by the Greeks and romans for the Roman empire. It was instigated by emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. He called the presbyters to Nicea and after arguing for almost 15 years , christianity(catholic) was created as the official religion of the Roman empire..

sonmvayina:
( Genesis to Deuteronomy) contrary to popular belief, the Torah was written by Ezra not Moses. Moses never existed. Ezra edited the babylonian Torah to arrive at its present form.....

killyaselfie:


Moses never existed but the supernatural being he had dealings with in the scriptures exist?

Which is likely to have existed Moses or his god?

killyaselfie:


Scriptures were already in existence before Constantine or the councils and synods that formalized the religion and influenced the editing of said scriptures.

Romans and Greeks didn’t write the scriptures. Your favorite people wrote them.

killyaselfie:


“God’s law”.
Jewish scribes and elites wrote the book yet you call it gods law. What god?
The ones the Jewish scribes and elites made up?
How is something written by Jews, god’s laws.
Did this god thing materialize to affirm that those are its laws?

Myer:
[url][/url]One of the major challenges Istill can't seem to understand is how the bible came about.

If you read through Genesis to Deuteronomy, you'll realise that some of the events were private and no one else was there, and certainly not even a writer.
This books were supposedly written by Moses who was born millennia after.
Moses, the supposed writer even in Deuteronomy 34 wrote about his own death.

How also did he know what conversations took place between God and Adam, Between Eve and the serpeant? Between Jacob and the Angel when he wrestled with God, Abraham and Isaac, Isaac and his sons, Jacob and his sons, Etc

In the new testament, how did the writers of the Synoptic gospels (Matthew to John) get the conversations Jesus had alone in their absence? Such as the conversation between him and the Samaritan woman by the well, Jesus and God at Gethsemane, etc.
How did the writer even have the conversations he had with them when none of them was a writer and most of them were illiterates?

sonmvayina:


Lol...

I Dont know how to address your ignorance.


At least I expect you to know what every one else knows. You know, the regular.

sonmvayina:


The new testament has got nothing to do with the jews....

They where all written in Greeks..

killyaselfie:


So what if they were written in Greek? Didn’t they translate their Bible to Greek and call it the Septuagint?

Newton wrote the Principia Mathematica in Latin, does that mean he was Latin?

killyaselfie:


Just explain how something written by Jewish scribes and elites is ascribed to a supernatural entity.
If Jewish elites and scribes wrote the book, how is “god” involved?
What makes them god’s laws?

No, I do not know the regular.

sonmvayina:


God is just a fancy word for the universe..

sonmvayina:

..it is just a relation between us and nature...

sonmvayina:


But the Jewish scriptures are all written in Hebrew or Aramaic .
The romans /Greek stole it and mistranslated it and added the new testament at the end of it to make it sellable...

killyaselfie:


Is this your definition or the Jewish scribes?
The “heavens” they speak about seems to be the celestial sphere, which they took to be a dome with affixed stars.

If god is just a fancy name for the heavens or the universe as you say, what does it have to do with Jewish scribes?






God is a fancy word for the universe and just a relation between you and nature?

killyaselfie:


So what if the Jewish scriptures are written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
Did the Greeks force the 70 scribes to translate the Old Testament to Greek?

The Romans adopted it because they saw the usefulness of the Jews “noble lie”.

Regardless, Hellenized jews created the gospels and Romans added and edited other useful scripts and called it the New Testament.

sonmvayina:


Still maintain ..it has got nothing to do with the jews...

At bold ...lol

sonmvayina:


Stay on discuss.

The jewish scribes wrote a story about how humans should interact with themselves and with nature..

No more ...no less

sonmvayina:

We are all God experiencing nature (God) in infinite ways..

killyaselfie:


I’m on discussion. You’re are the one using the word god and refusing to explain what you mean.

The jewish scribes or Ezra, like you said, wrote all manner of things including conversations with “god” or “nature” or the “universe” or the “heavens”, and you claim their writings include “God’s laws”.

You claim God is a fancy word for the universe and its laws are about human interaction wihh the nature.

My questions are why should we call the musings of Jewish scribes “God’s law”?

What are examples of this God’s law.
Remember, I don’t know the regular.



Instead of the convoluted statement above, why don’t you just write that we are a part of nature?

“We are all Borg experiencing Borg in myriad ways”

What is Borg?
Borg is just a fancy way of saying multiverse.

killyaselfie:


At bold….figure out what it means first before lol

MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISM just a step from you, then all your self-deception will end!

sonmvayina:


Because if it is not written God's laws, people like you can't tell the difference between right from wrong..

Yea...we are part of nature...

sonmvayina:

You are not improving because you are not learning.. Stop being closed minded...Learn to question your beliefs

sonmvayina:


You are not improving because you are not learning..

Stop being closed minded...

Learn to question your beliefs
.

killyaselfie:

Question yours first. You are in no position to criticize anyone’s faith!!!

sonmvayina:


I did..thats why I laughed out loud.

sonmvayina:


God is omni present

God is omni potent

God is omni science

Which of these does a man possess?


You might have to read Numbers 23:19

killyaselfie:


Duplicitous mutha…

This post above rubbishes all your arguments about your Jewish god/nature/whateverthefuck