Igo9:
I wanted to believe the Ebonyians are Igbos.

The language of ebonyians is different from the Igbo language..
When ebonyi man speaks, Abia, Imo, Enugu, Anambra man will not understand and same way ebonyi man will not understand the language of the later, vice versa.
But the only understandable language uses by both tribe is the centre Igbo language which they (ebonyians) learnt..

We also have seen lots of occasions where Igbos called ebonyians osu...

We have also seen in many occasions where ebonyians said they are not Igbos...

Are the Ebonyians truely Igbos?

Igo9:
I wanted to believe the Ebonyians are Igbos.

The language of ebonyians is different from the Igbo language..
When ebonyi man speaks, Abia, Imo, Enugu, Anambra man will not understand and same way ebonyi man will not understand the language of the later, vice versa.
But the only understandable language uses by both tribe is the centre Igbo language which they (ebonyians) learnt..

We also have seen lots of occasions where Igbos called ebonyians osu...

We have also seen in many occasions where ebonyians said they are not Igbos...

Are the Ebonyians truely Igbos?

Igo9:
ethnicities that are indigenous to south east
Igbo
Ibibio
Igala
Ijaw etc

RedboneSmith:


Mention one Ijaw and one Ibibio village in the southeast. The villages you mention must be shown to be speaking Ijaw and Ibibio dialects.

RedboneSmith:


Have you asked the ones you met if they are Igbo and they said no?

oyatz:
Which one is Ebonyians?


Different parts of Ebonyi evolved differently but ONLY the people themselves can speak for themselves.

Ethnic Identities changes with time and I think that majority of the people of Ebonyi State now identify as Igbos.

Igo9:
I don't need to ask one person because they already speaking in large numbers that they are not Igbos..

Igo9:


Example, the afikpos who will never identified with Igbo

Igo9:
Ibibios are cut into abia state from cross river state... You don't know anything about south east... I will be your teacher but you can ask your brothers here...

Now to Ijaws of south east..
Ndoki-Ijaws of abia state..

Egbema-Ijaws of imo state...

Though, they are minorities within those states...

Go google ethnicities in abia...

aribisala0:
Not logical

Kogi was carved out of kwara
Delta was carved out of Bendel
Bayelsa was carved out of Rivers

There are fundamental differences between those states now

One cannot infer anything from the fact of "carving out" it neither proves nor disproves

It is irrelevant
There are better arguments


States may be carved out because of incompatibility ,of ethnic groups e.g being treated as minority as was the case of Ikwerre in the old Rivers state
Edo and Delta were carved out of Bendel and the resultant two states are very different

Isobug:

Oga stop long text, if you have good comprehensive analysis, you should deduce a second reason in my comment. I'm not gonna tell you, it's there.
But the fact remains that Ebonyi is an Igbo state with all common attributes of the Igbos, from language to behaviour, period.

Igo9:
I wanted to believe the Ebonyians are Igbos.

The language of ebonyians is different from the Igbo language..
When ebonyi man speaks, Abia, Imo, Enugu, Anambra man will not understand and same way ebonyi man will not understand the language of the later, vice versa.
But the only understandable language uses by both tribe is the centre Igbo language which they (ebonyians) learnt..

We also have seen lots of occasions where Igbos called ebonyians osu...

We have also seen in many occasions where ebonyians said they are not Igbos...

Are the Ebonyians truely Igbos?

Igo9:
ethnicities that are indigenous to south east
Igbo
Ibibio
Igala
Ijaw etc

Probz:


Other than the pocketful of Igala communities what exist on the northernmost peripheries of Anambra and possibly Nsukka, Igala is more of a middle-belt ethnicity than anything else. Ibaji folk can just about pass as Ezike-Nsukka-palm-wine-tapping hybrids but core northern Igalas are more like Yorubas and Hausas than anything else.

Where in the f*ck did you get the idea that Igala territory as a whole is entrenched predominantly in the south-east? Who told you that lie?

Probz:


“When someone from the Black Country (West Midlands) speaks their conc. dialect, no-one from Liverpool, Manchester or London would understand them.

Are Birmingham indigenes not English on that premise? Is the second-largest city in England not an English city again by virtue of the fact that their local dialect just happens to be conc. as hell? Is intra-national diversity not supposed to be something to encourage rather than ostracise people for?

mrvitalis:

Tell me are Ibadan people really Yoruba people because we are sure ijebu and aworis are not

RedboneSmith:
I

Omo, leave that guy. Na jonse im dey jonse.

I just found out he is Ijaw. Ijaws are the last people in this country who should even try to use linguistic/dialectal diversity to argue against the ethnic cohesion of any people-group in this country. No 'ethnic group' in Nigeria is as linguistically diverse as the Ijaw. Ijaw will claim Odual, Abua, Obolo (Andoni), Degema, etc are Ijaw, but none of these groups even speaks an Ijoid language/dialect. Even the Defaka people of Nkoro that do speak an Ijoid language, their language is so divergent that mainstream Ijaw people don't understand them.

Ijaws are the greatest people in the west africa.

Yet this Ijaw boy here wants come and talk about Ebonyi.

Probz:


“When someone from the Black Country (West Midlands) speaks their conc. dialect, no-one from Liverpool, Manchester or London would understand them.

Are Birmingham indigenes not English on that premise? Is the second-largest city in England not an English city again by virtue of the fact that their local dialect just happens to be conc. as hell? Is intra-national diversity not supposed to be something to encourage rather than ostracise people for?

Igo9:
Ijaws understand one another, mr man.

Though, there are differences..

But in this case, ebonyians and Igbos can never understand each other languages, that's the fact..

Igo9:
did the Birmingham people denied english?
but in this case ebonyians denied been Igbo..
Igbos also calling ebonyians osu

RedboneSmith:


Shey I have asked you to show proof of 'Ebonyians' denying Igbo, you kept quiet.

I gave you the name of an Ebonyi man who recently served as President-General of Ohanenze Ndigbo, you kept quiet.

I mentioned the very Igbotic Maria Ude Nwachi who is from Ebonyi, you kept quiet.

What of Chief Akanu Ibiam, a pioneer of Igbo nationalism in the early colonial era who was from the area that is now Ebonyi State?

What of the IPOB leader Simon Ekpa, a son of Ebonyi?

What of the young and vibrant Mazi Ogbonnaya Okoro, a prolific writer of Igbo novels, a teacher of the Igbo language and an aggressive defender of Igbo language, culture and interest, who is from Ebonyi?

If you dey run mad, go find your colleagues for Yaba Left and leave the internet.

RedboneSmith:


Taa! You don't understand an Nkoro man when he speaks his language, let alone an Obolo man (who you people keep claiming are Ijaw.)

Igo9:
we understand them...

But even nsukka language is different from Igbo language

RedboneSmith:


LMAOOO! Na now I confirm say you dey smoke lizard shit. This thing here na evidence of Ebonyi people denying being Igbo? Chai. Kai kai adirokwo mma o.

Let me also show you evidence that Kiagbodo people in Delta State deny being Ijaw.

RedboneSmith:

If there is one thing you people are good at, it is lying. Go and tell this lie to someone who doesn't know the area well. Ordinary Nembe and Kolokuma can't understand each other's Ijoid languages. No Ijaw person understands wetin Defaka people in Nkoro dey talk. Andoni, Abua, Ogbia, Odual, Apoi, Engenni, etc are a different matter all together because those ones don't even speak Ijoid languages to begin with.
Guy, its just dialectical differences but we still understand one another..


Nsukka that I went to for a traditional wedding this December and I was speaking my dialect and they were speaking theirs and we were communicating just fine? nor let lie kil u dis newyear... Go and tell that lie to Hausa people who doesn't know about south east..

You will just drink kai kai early in the morning and be typing nonsense from one creek.

Igo9:
lol..
Umahi said it, go google the news

RedboneSmith:

And yet you will not post a link where he said it, only showing me a picture you edited in your hut in Obotebe.

Ogogoro drinker, this is what Dave Umahi actually said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/punchng.com/igbo-has-investments-everywhere-were-not-part-of-biafra-umahi/%3famp

Umahi said Ebonyi will not be part of Biafra. Now I know some of you are too slow to understand that there's a difference between Biafra (a proposed political state) and Igbo (an ethnolinguistic group), but there is. Now I also know you don't know this, but many Igbos do opppse the idea of Biafra.

Read the article above and show me where Umahi said his people are not Igbos. He, as a matter of fact, affirmed his Igboness in the article.

When they tell you to leave kai kai and focus on school so you no go dey misunderstand wetin person yard, you refused.

Igo9:
hmmm,,, I should enter google post it so you can believe, because your believe will give me money, Right?

If you don't have data to enter google and see the news then asked me for data help...