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Nelidee:
You are right. I can never agree with you because I have done my research on Jehovah's witnesses and seen for myself that it was founded by a man who was not only deeply involved in spiritism or pyramidology but was also a mason. They predicted the end of the world using numerous dates and it all failed. That's one sign of a false prophet for you. One of your leaders even built a house for Abraham, claiming Abraham was going to be resurrected on a particular year, How ridiculous!

You don't need to quote scriptures up and down for me. If I find a Bible group that believes and teaches the truth from the Bible, I remain there. When they teach doctrines from demons, I leave and my family leaves with me.

Can you do that? No.
Why? Because your GB has brainwashed all members to shun those who are not part of them, shun those who question their teachings, shun those who choose to attend university. If you leave JW today, all your family members will shun you. That's cult behaviour 101 for you.

You are locked and trapped in a religious cult posing to be a Bible believing group and you are too stubborn and lazy to know this because you choose to be forcefully fed and caged.

Truth doesn't cage you. It sets you free.

The highlighted is the difference between you and me!

Do you have evidence or you just forwarded what you heard from others as usual?

Anyway thanks for your time!

oteneaaron:
WORD.

I did some research and it is called Cognitive Dissonance.

Even though the truth about the religion is glaring.

Even if you show them the tombstone from CT Russell's tomb that was a pyramid.

Even if you show direct proof from their own publications, they will still put up the wall of defence.

But it just a matter of time.

Go to YouTube and see what is happening in many other countries.

People are doing the actual research and waking up.

The only problem is the fact that the organization will hold your family captive.

Even if you can leave, you family will still be stuck in the religion/cult and will most likely shun you.

*The picture below is the pyramid tombstone on the grave of Pastor Charles Taze Russell. But it was recently removed - and we all know why.

Alot of witnesses are waking up all over the world including Nigeria most especially since covid began and they introduced meeting via zoom. Most of them including elders and C.O's are PIMO (Physically In, Mentally out).

Alot of them, most especially the educated ones are fully aware of the organisation's hidden
disgusting history and current cases of child sexual abuse and dealings with questionable companies but out of fear they just play along.

Like I told the Max guy, his false sense of godly devotion and righteous indignation is something God will take into account and use to free him from the cage he and other witnesses are in.

No sheep will be left behind, except that sheep delibrately chooses to reject help and direction from God.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is the difference between you and me!

Do you have evidence or you just forwarded what you heard from others as usual?

Anyway thanks for your time!

Use your data and get the proof yourself. I did research myself. Your GB made it difficult for me by getting rid of alot of publications and I had to sweat and do research. Nobody spoon feed me. Its there all over the internet. I don't need to open your mouth and spoon feed you, that's something only your GB in Warwick can do.

Do research! Then come back let's talk.

You're welcome.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is the difference between you and me!

Do you have evidence or you just forwarded what you heard from others as usual?

Anyway thanks for your time!

Do your research.

The information is out there for you.

ALL you need to do is find it.

Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd Degree Mason.

Where do you think he got the 1914 end of the world doctrine from?

He got it after studying the pyramid of Giza.

Where do you think he got the cross and crown insignia from?

Why is there a winged sun disk in front of the books he wrote - the Divine plan of all ages?

Where do you think he got the term "Watchtower" from?

These are all Masonsic terms and symbology.

But you have to calm down and do this research for yourself.

Nelidee:
Use your data and get the proof yourself. I did research myself. Your GB made it difficult for me by getting rid of alot of publications and I had to sweat and do research. Nobody spoon feed me. Its there all over the internet. I don't need to open your mouth and spoon feed you, that's something only your GB in Warwick can do. Do research! They come back let's talk.
You're welcome.

According to Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3, John 13:34-35 and 17:20-23
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only mouthpiece of the God i want to worship!
So there's nothing anyone can say against them. Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

The SPIRIT WORKING with them has helped them to make the best Bible students globally and the evidence is here as i (a former Muslim) keeps quoting God's word pointing out what His will says but you're just quoting what people say about the best religious group ever on this planet! Matthew 10:22-25

The SPIRIT has helped them to erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe so that they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

The SPIRIT has helped them to have the most obedient members throughout the earth so that when people think of those who will never protest against constituted authorities JWs are second to none! Romans 13:1-4

When talking about the best youths people will like to have as children, JWs comes first of all the religions on this planet. That's why you're longingly anticipating their turnaround against those who taught them to be that good: the Governing Body.

So how come you are thinking the Governing Body aren't working for God yet they're able to gather the nicest kinds of people throughout the earth? Matthew 7:17-18

MaxInDHouse:
According to Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3, John 13:34-35 and 17:20-23
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only mouthpiece of the God i want to worship!
So there's nothing anyone can say against them. Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

The SPIRIT WORKING with them has helped them to make the best Bible students globally and the evidence is here as i (a former Muslim) keeps quoting God's word pointing out what His will says but you're just quoting what people say about the best religious group ever on this planet! Matthew 10:22-25

The SPIRIT has helped them to erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe so that they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

The SPIRIT has helped them to have the most obedient members throughout the earth so that when people think of those who will never protest against constituted authorities JWs are second to none! Romans 13:1-4

When talking about the best youths people will like to have as children, JWs comes first of all the religions on this planet. That's why you're longingly anticipating their turnaround against those who taught them to be that good: the Governing Body.

So how come you are thinking the Governing Body aren't working for God yet they're able to gather the nicest kinds of people throughout the earth? Matthew 7:17-18

Yours is a pure case of Cognitive Dissonance.

Like I told you before, you left the frying pan - Islam, and ended up in the actual fire - JW

The GB that lied under oath that it would be presumptuous to say that they are the only channel of communication to God.

The same GB that has predicted and failed at their end of the world prophecies on SIX solid occasions.

The same GB that calls you an "other sheep" which means that Jesus didn't die for you - but only for the GB and the rest of the 144,000

The same GB that says you are a Not a "son of God" but only a "friend of God"

The list goes on and on.

Until you do your research, it will all sound gibberish to.

MaxInDHouse:
According to Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3, John 13:34-35 and 17:20-23
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only mouthpiece of the God i want to worship!
So there's nothing anyone can say against them. Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

The SPIRIT WORKING with them has helped them to make the best Bible students globally and the evidence is here as i (a former Muslim) keeps quoting God's word pointing out what His will says but you're just quoting what people say about the best religious group ever on this planet! Matthew 10:22-25

The SPIRIT has helped them to erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe so that they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

The SPIRIT has helped them to have the most obedient members throughout the earth so that when people think of those who will never protest against constituted authorities JWs are second to none! Romans 13:1-4

When talking about the best youths people will like to have as children, JWs comes first of all the religions on this planet. That's why you're longingly anticipating their turnaround against those who taught them to be that good: the Governing Body.

So how come you are thinking the Governing Body aren't working for God yet they're able to gather the nicest kinds of people throughout the earth? Matthew 7:17-18

Stop deceiving yourself. Alot of JW kids leave the organisation the moment they go to university or begin to live on their own. Do you know why?

Here's why.... because your organisation is filled with hypocrites. The hypocrisy in JW is very strong.

Alot of JW family heads most especially elders beat the crap out of their wives and still mount platform to give talks in both Kingdom hall and conventions. They have no conscience. The organisation is filled with pretenders. That's what happens when the leaders of an organisation are pretenders and dominate and rule over its followers, there's always this camouflage people tend to put on. A bad tree will surely produce bad fruits.

Your GB lied and said university is taking alot of youths but that's not true. Its the hypocrisy and disgusting secrecy in the organisation that makes them leave the moment they smell freedom.

I believe we've cleared the allegation that the GB once had dealings with UN but since they're no longer dealing with the UN the case is closed!

Thank you guys for your time!

Comedian2019:
Humanitarian services is a good move every religious body should participate in.
What's the big deal in that?

The big deal on it is that they quickly withdrawn their registration immediately people know about it.

So do you still think it's all about humanitarian services?

Judge for yourself...

MaxInDHouse:
I believe we've cleared the allegation that the GB once had dealings with UN but since they're no longer dealing with the UN the case is closed!

Thank you guys for your time!

Everything is allegation to you once it's about your lying organization.

Despite the fact that, this isn't news anymore and already in public domain years ago, you can still call it allegation.

Your organization never denied it, in fact they withdrawn their registration immediately.

Emusan:
Everything is allegation to you once it's about your lying organization.

Despite the fact that, this isn't news anymore and already in public domain years ago, you can still call it allegation.

Your organization never denied it, in fact they withdrawn their registration immediately.

Unfortunately, they are still members of the UN although secretly. The public withdrawal was just for show to keep JWs inquisitive mouths shut.

Go to Youtube, type 'exjw analyzer' . It's a channel. It's been long I viewed the video. I can't remember the specific topic. Scan through the videos and find the one with a topic about secretly recording a shepherding call from C. O and elders to address the guys doubts about the org. I can't remember if the guy left the org or if he was disfellowshipped for having doubts. When the guy brought up the UN issue, the C. O admitted to watchtower still being a member of the U.N.

oteneaaron:
Ah!

Senior man, why are you LYING?

For many decades before 1992 when the Watchtower registered as a partner of the United Nations, they have always said that the UN was part of Satan's Organization.

But don't take my word for it.



Let us go down memory lane and explore some of your own publications shall we?

1. The Organization has always vilified the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1984 Sep 15 p.15 -

"No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization."

2. The Watchtower has always condemned Christendom for been involved with the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1963 Nov 15 p.697:

"Such dwellers on earth wondered admiringly at the revived scarlet wild beast. Much reliance was placed in its ability to be a power for world peace and security. Great expectations were held out for it, and it was given designations that were really blasphemous from the standpoint of the Holy Bible.

How so? In that to this wild beast powers were ascribed and tasks were assigned that really belong to Gods kingdom and its Messiah or its Christ. Back in 1919 the scarlet League of Nations had been seriously called the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. And now the United Nations, the successor of that League, has been called the best means for peace, yes, even more than that, the last hope for peace.

So today we can see in actuality what the apostle John saw in symbol, that that scarlet-colored wild beast is full of blasphemous names. Those expressions of admiration for it turn false religionists, not to the worship of Jehovah God the Creator, but to idolatry of a man-made creation, the worship of a political image, the worship of an international organization for world peace and security. Rev. 17:3."

3. See the Watchtower 1987 Sep 1 p.20

"The United Nations is actually a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth."

If this is not a clear case of DOUBLE STANDARDS and HYPOCRISY, I honest wonder what else is.

Jesus must have been playing hide and seek with the JW organization.

Before 1992, the light was clear.

It then went dark for TEN solid years.

Then it became bright again after their HYPOCRISY was exposed.

WOW!!

Go to Youtube, type 'exjw analyzer' . It's a channel. It's been long I viewed the video. I can't remember the specific topic. Scan through the videos and find the one with a topic about secretly recording a shepherding call from C. O and elders to address the guys doubts about the org. I can't remember if the guy left the org or if he was disfellowshipped for having doubts. When the guy brought up the UN issue, the C. O admitted to watchtower still being a member of the U.N. This shows that COs have certain info elders and rank and file members are not aware of. You know, like a pyramid scheme and freemansory.

There's always two side to a story. The OP's own is a critic side which is full of half-truth and biased opinion.

This is the short version

The Watchtower Society did not join the UN. Only nations can join the UN.


They became what is called an NGO (Non Government Organisation) to the department of Public Affairs, This was so that they could have access to the vast library at the UN that we use in many of our publications

The criteria for being an NGO was different when they become an NGO. The criteria changed and the responsible men at the WTS we unaware of the change of status for being an NGO until a reporter in England wrote a story for the Guardian

The headquarters began receiving many letters asking about this and as result of those letters, they checked the UN requirements for NGOs and found they had recently changed; they realized that the requirements demanded a more definite support and that violated our neutrality stand, so they disassociated

haddeylium:
There's always two side to a story. The OP's own is a critic side which is full of half-truth and biased opinion.
This is the short version
The Watchtower Society did not join the UN. Only nations can join the UN.

They became what is called an NGO (Non Government Organisation) to the department of Public Affairs, This was so that they could have access to the vast library at the UN that we use in many of our publications
The criteria for being an NGO was different when they become an NGO. The criteria changed and the responsible men at the WTS we unaware of the change of status for being an NGO until a reporter in England wrote a story for the Guardian
The headquarters began receiving many letters asking about this and as result of those letters, they checked the UN requirements for NGOs and found they had recently changed; they realized that the requirements demanded a more definite support and that violated our neutrality stand, so they disassociated

What this faithless people want God's people to do is to know whatever will happen in the future after all they are God's chosen people.
So they're not interested in knowing whether they made changes due to some changes in the requirements of the UN.
They are all atheists in disguise, but hiding under none-denominations so that they will not be asked to show the works of their Faith! James 2:18
Therefore when they look around and see the organization that's truly producing the fruit of faith they're puzzled and the next thing is how to discredit such fine WORKS!

haddeylium:
There's always two side to a story. The OP's own is a critic side which is full of half-truth and biased opinion.

This is the short version

The Watchtower Society did not join the UN. Only nations can join the UN.


They became what is called an NGO (Non Government Organisation) to the department of Public Affairs, This was so that they could have access to the vast library at the UN that we use in many of our publications

The criteria for being an NGO was different when they become an NGO. The criteria changed and the responsible men at the WTS we unaware of the change of status for being an NGO until a reporter in England wrote a story for the Guardian

The headquarters began receiving many letters asking about this and as result of those letters, they checked the UN requirements for NGOs and found they had recently changed; they realized that the requirements demanded a more definite support and that violated our neutrality stand, so they disassociated

Save this story you typed for unbaptised publishers like max. When we tell you people to go online and do research, you guys dodge like we are telling you to hug a transformer. Apart from documents, There are videos online of elders admitting that your organisation has ties with the U.N. Don't ask me for proof, the lady above has already told you how to get that proof. I am aware you guys have a hierarchical structure in your organisation. Certain things known by travelling overseers is not known by elders, certain things known by elders is not known by rank and file witnesses, certain things known by rank and file witnesses is not known by unbaptised publishers like max that said you people don't restrict blood transfusion. So am not surprised that alot of you don't know anything about your organisation. So much secrecy and deceit same pattern as freemasons.

So you ran away from the topic you raised only to start raising another, shey?
Do you now agree that the Israelites never made any mistake when they claim to be God's chosen nation?

nans24:
Save this story you typed for unbaptised publishers like max. When we tell you people to go online and do research, you guys dodge like we are telling you to hug a transformer. Apart from documents, There are videos online of elders admitting that your organisation has ties with the U.N. Don't ask me for proof, the lady above has already told you how to get that proof. I am aware you guys have a hierarchical structure in your organisation. Certain things known by travelling overseers is not known by elders, certain things known by elders is not known by rank and file witnesses, certain things known by rank and file witnesses is not known by unbaptised publishers like max that said you people don't restrict blood transfusion. So am not surprised that alot of you don't know anything about your organisation. So much secrecy and deceit same pattern as freemasons.

MaxInDHouse:
So you ran away from the topic you raised only to start raising another, shey?
Do you now agree that the Israelites never made any mistake when they claim to be God's chosen nation?

My indirect brother in the lord. Good morning. Thanks for all the work you're doing in this forum. Honestly, you're really helping to make our work easier. Hope you delivered my greetings and advise to your grandson?

Small boy!

nans24:
My indirect brother in the lord. Good morning. Thanks for all the work you're doing in this forum. Honestly, you're really helping to make our work easier. Hope you delivered my greetings and advise to your grandson?

haddeylium:
There's always two side to a story. The OP's own is a critic side which is full of half-truth and biased opinion.

They never disappoint

So your other side is the truth bah

This is the short version

The Watchtower Society did not join the UN. Only nations can join the UN.


They became what is called an NGO (Non Government Organisation) to the department of Public Affairs, This was so that they could have access to the vast library at the UN that we use in many of our publications

See broad day lie....

So they don't know about there rules and regulations before agreed to join them

The criteria for being an NGO was different when they become an NGO. The criteria changed and the responsible men at the WTS we unaware of the change of status for being an NGO until a reporter in England wrote a story for the Guardian

If you can swallow this lie then it means you're truly brain dead.

How will a whole UN change their criteria without informing the previous members?

So why didn't WTBTS sue UN for changing their criteria without their notice?

If not because of that Guidian article and UN letter, your lying organization won't have opened up.

The headquarters began receiving many letters asking about this and as result of those letters, they checked the UN requirements for NGOs and found they had recently changed; they realized that the requirements demanded a more definite support and [b]that violated our neutrality stand, so they disassociated

Medicine after death, so you became a part of UN as an NGO but you have to know through series of letters from an outsider before you know, criteria have been changed

Anyways, if you don't believe their cover up story, how will you swallow the rest of their lies?