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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by whytediamond(m): 9:59am On Jan 27, 2022
Kwinesther:
Thanks so much! What's your WhatsApp number?

You can get it here if you see my footnote. It's also on my BIO on Instagram. Thanks.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Kaiser20: 10:02am On Jan 27, 2022
MVLOX:
The question should be how did higher education in Nigeria become so useless.....
Who told you higher education is useless?,
Bsc or HND or ND means you are now prepared to learn MORE.
it's not a certificate of success or certificate of accomplishment.
higher education means you have the willingness to Learn ,upgrade and be a leader, create jobs and achieve your goals.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Angelfrost(m): 10:04am On Jan 27, 2022
Whatever this OND or HND holding Op meant to achieve with this post, I wish him good luck.


All I will say is... All tertiary degrees have their places somewhere. The main thing is to focus on upgrading yourself, gaining technical skills that make you stand out anywhere.

The world has moved on from mere paper degrees! Get problem solving skills, and create value.

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Kwinesther: 10:04am On Jan 27, 2022
whytediamond:


You can get it here if you see my footnote. It's also on my BIO on Instagram. Thanks.
Yes I saw it. Chatted you on WhatsApp already.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Esomchi77(m): 10:20am On Jan 27, 2022
Btech is the best
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Surelay: 10:24am On Jan 27, 2022
Yes,,am working with a private company well paid with OND & BSC, though enter with OND . Most of BSC HOLDER doesn't have anything to contribute to the company yet demanding higher pay.Bsc hold have ego deu to HND/BCS dichotomy in Nigeria which makes them less productive.

Again,company preferred OND/NCE/HND because no matter how good you are you will still bs trained in some aspects with less paid.

Most of BSC Came for IT in our company only few from one private company could vibrate.

During the Bsc program i though we are on top of the situation on till i got to the field before i realized HND holder performed better .

Most HND will want to prove to you that we are better hence make them more productive on the field.

Meanwhile,not all HND Were good nor all BSC were bad.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by thanksjosh005: 10:25am On Jan 27, 2022
tutudesz:

OND graduate has 6 months working experience, because of their IT and adding the HND IT experience translate to 1 and half years work experience when leaving school.

You're wrong if you exclude BSc. Holders too. They also have IT experience.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by JeffreyJames(m): 10:28am On Jan 27, 2022
Ybaby:


Learn to use CAPITAL LETTERS when stating facts. It took me almost 2 years to get a good customer service person and currently pay her 100k+ and I was advertising on hotnigerianjobs and jobberman every month.

Each advert gives us about 200 to 400 candidates and 95% are olodo....... just vibes.

Put a laptop in front of them and they can not paste even after watching a SOP video on how to do the task...... once they get to copy and paste - they start using CTRL P instead of CTRL V....... Graduates? ? ? not 1 not 2 not 10..... young graduates with iphone but no computer literacy.

Then the ones that can use CTRL V found thier last job stressful so they left without getting another job.... so who is paying your bills Nikka (you have a 2 months old baby) my brother in London sends us upkeep! Tor!!! grin grin grin I just say it was nice meeting you.... we will call you donot call us ( it is against the law to tell such a person that he is a lazy irresponsible man/father who will introduce entitlement culture if allowed to venture in) or the one truecaller brought up her name as Mercy hook up.... All BSC holders!!

So sad!!!



It's Terrible. Many Computer Science graduates can't even operate a laptop. You see them struggling with basic computer skills. Yet they'll be crying that there's no job.

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by awoo47: 10:29am On Jan 27, 2022
it's simply a cost cutting measure
A Bsc may find it hard to get jobs but once they gets experience. They always want more
So companies prefer OND that will collect 100k for 20yrs
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Surelay: 10:32am On Jan 27, 2022
Our factory manager is a HND older in a company of more than 1200 staff and workers. Although have series of experience from other companies before joining us.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by kinibigdeal(m): 10:33am On Jan 27, 2022
gift0123:
So like this OND and HND holders don dey give themselves hope grin grin grin those ones that went to poly grin grin grin because university rejected they poor scores grin grin grin no matter what BSC is still the best degree, attend a university if you can. However, they only employ HND and OND holders because they will accept peanut. BSC holders earn more respect and always get the upper hand in every firm, more than HND and OND. You people should not deceive this ones looking for admission please........

I have both HND and Bsc degree. If you don’t have HND background Atleast in today’s economic reality. It will be very difficult for you to get a job with zero experience
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by eduora: 10:34am On Jan 27, 2022
Will i kill myself because of my master degree? Nigerian's education is zero/hundred
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by tutudesz: 10:37am On Jan 27, 2022
thanksjosh005:


You're wrong if you exclude BSc. Holders too. They also have IT experience.
You can't compare polytechnic to university on IT experience, every OND graduate must do IT regardless of your department and while select department do IT in university
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Gkemz: 10:37am On Jan 27, 2022
When I completed my service, I was disqualified from a banking teller and customer service job because I had bachelor's. Instead I was offered a contract marketing job which I considered dehumanizing. At a point when I obtained Msc, I applied for a job with olevel since I don't have ND and HND because they demanded for olevel certificate or ND or HND holders. Life no balance for this country.

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by dangoteinlaw: 10:49am On Jan 27, 2022
franchasng:
You know I have OND and Bsc holders employees, and I have observed them over time and noticed these things lol



Small firms that wish to grow and not go bankrupt in Nigeria should avoid hiring male Bsc holders lolz, most are criminal minded. They will be wondering how you the company owner made money so they can do same and quit your job fast lol



Some of them that came for one of our interviews at a time were even older than me, some fatter and huge than I am hehe, and you need to see how they were looking at me with anger like na this one I go de answer sir cheesy



Abeg OND holders are far better for small firms, and then hire fine female Bsc holders in your Accounting department and have peace of mind jareh lol
Engineering firms don't even ask of Beng again. You just come to the venue and you are given a task to complete. You need to see bsc/Beng holders failing interviews and blaming it on the computer not working fine lol. Beng/bsc only make mouth, nothing more.

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by dangoteinlaw: 10:53am On Jan 27, 2022
RolexOfGeneva:

You are talking trash. I went to a university. I studied elect eng. Contrary to popular beliefs, universities basically choke you daily with practicals. Plus, they have more and better equipment. Since graduating, we've been to different field. Till date, every poly graduate I meet at the fields is amazed by my level of dexterity. None of them comes close. They learn from me and I'm always open to teaching them.
let others testify of you and not yourself. The fact that you are the one saying you are intelligent makes it a lie.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Lastmankc(m): 10:57am On Jan 27, 2022
whytediamond:
In this age of digitalisation, if you're a graduate and you still believe salary job will help you actualize your dreams of becoming great, I feel sad for you.


Playing around YouTube alone for 4hrs daily for 30days should bring any intelligent SSCE holder out of generational poverty.

Bsc. HND, OND and the rest is not relevant in a society like Nigeria where the average monthly take home for a graduate is less than 80 USDollar
please teach me how to make money on YouTube
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by israelolugbemi: 10:57am On Jan 27, 2022
edochie12:
The simple answer is that polytechnic are doing more of practicals than theory, that's why banks prefer them to those that attend University,but University are doing mainly on theory.

This is a hoax/facade that has prevailed over time. There is no such thing as polytechnics having more practical/practical session than universities as of the present age and dispensation. I finished from the federal university of Technology AKURE and my colleagues who were DIRECT ENTRY STUDENTS FROM POLY, did attest to the fact that we were more involved in practicals than they were.

Let’s leave the world of engineering and pure sciences.

What practicals do those that read banking and finance, sociology, linguistics, languages, public administration and it likes engage in? Or would you say those courses had specialized practical session in the poly than university settings?

The bias in the employment simply lies in the pay grade and growth rate of BSC VS OND/HND holders.

Bsc starts on level 8 in any industry and B.eng starts from level 9 while in contrast HND starts on a level 7 while OND starts on a lower grade.

The starting salary and benefits of this levels differs greatly, and at the Long run, there’s a limit to which each entry level can grow to.
Companies are simply playing an economy game to maximize profits. Start the staffs on low salary and their highest salary will just be a little above the stating salary of a BSC holder.


Do take to note that regardless of your level, companies still offer a form of training to prepare you for the job.

Thank you

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Seaseason07: 10:59am On Jan 27, 2022
edochie12:
The simple answer is that polytechnic are doing more of practicals than theory, that's why banks prefer them to those that attend University,but University are doing mainly on theory.
Keep quiet! I'm a product of both the institutions and I can tell you that those practicals work in polytechnic is nonsense. Please don't compare the two. University is better by far

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by israelolugbemi: 11:03am On Jan 27, 2022
Indispensable85:



So how's your long epistle different from what I said?

It’s very different sir.

I can’t pay you and I will not pay you are very different.

What you said is that companies can’t pay BSC holders.
The truth is they can but they prefer rather not to.

“They can’t pay BSC holders” means they don’t have the finical capability of doing so.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by israelolugbemi: 11:10am On Jan 27, 2022
After all said and done, be it that you believe that polytechnic offers more practicals than university or vice versa. It all boils down to personal development.

The school you attended is just a platform to enlighten you if the happening and potentials of what you can become.

Personal development matters.

Where I did my IT at the refinery, without bragging a colleague of mine AND myself from FUTO and FUTA superseded our counterparts in dexterity, technical do how and theoretical knowledge through out the IT period.

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by seanwilliam(m): 11:16am On Jan 27, 2022
Zandena:


I don't think companies can't pay Bsc. Holders, it's a cost cutting measures to cope with the economic realities.
A firm can comfortably pay 2 OND employees with a Bsc. Employee,thereby reducing number of degree holders on the pay roll and also allows for more hands to be engaged while minimizing costs and maximizing returns
I love your use of English bro

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by olanreyman(m): 11:22am On Jan 27, 2022
anungangampu:
It's actually the opposite. Because HND has little or no room for promotion and will likely take a lesser pay than B.sc

Another factor is that the main skill needed for most Jobs are not taught in our schools both In Universities and polytechnics. So most corporation go for already made employees or employ teachable HND graduant.

That's my little hypothesis. Cos the way banks are hunting HND holders made me say this. But those employed said they are not given room for promotion unlike the B.sc holders.

By the way. I hold both Cert.
You did direct entry or conversion program after HND?
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Osilama1: 11:22am On Jan 27, 2022
SerikiFulani:


He's a Senior lecturer in a private university.
alright that's decent enough...

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by anungangampu: 11:27am On Jan 27, 2022
olanreyman:

You did direct entry or conversion program after HND?
Started afresh

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Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by merits(m): 11:35am On Jan 27, 2022
It's well

Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by merits(m): 11:35am On Jan 27, 2022
It's well.

Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Ebelefrancis123: 11:40am On Jan 27, 2022
Sincerely speaking,I have my B.sc certificate since 2013 and now I work a driver. I pray God � to heal our land.
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Hassanmaye(m): 11:45am On Jan 27, 2022
heniford2:
B.sc is useless while OND and HND is good undecided grin
Will you shut up
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by olanreyman(m): 11:47am On Jan 27, 2022
anungangampu:

Started afresh
Wow. What advice do you have for HND holders who wish to get a degree?
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by anungangampu: 11:50am On Jan 27, 2022
olanreyman:

Wow. What advice do you have for HND holders who wish to get a degree?
Just go post graduate studies. Then masters. Forget about B.sc entirely
Re: How did the B.sc Become So Useless In Nigeria? by Rickmann: 11:52am On Jan 27, 2022
InvertedHammer:

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Because salary scales are based on certificates. OND/HND graduates are cheaper to employ and their productivities are at par with B.Sc holders. People with B.Sc have not shown any remarkable skills that could differentiate them from OND/HND holders. Do we blame "sorting"?

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grin

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