MaxInDHouse:


“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it" Matthew 7:13-14

“Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able. Luke 13:24

~ Jesus of Nazareth

These are things I was thought in Children Church department of Deeperlife those years. Thanks.

LordIsaac:

These are things I was thought in Children Church department of Deeperlife those years. Thanks.

And did Kumuyi teach you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of those verses?
It's not about looking like an old woman without make-up o!

MaxInDHouse:

And did Kumuyi teach you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of those verses?
It's not about looking like an old woman without make-up o!

He did.

LordIsaac:

He did.

So how many polygamists do you find in his church?

MaxInDHouse:


Keep deceiving yourself!

You don't know how polygamy is leading to more and more troubles in the human society shey?

Just know that if all men are monogamists all unmarried women will keep their virginity!

"Troubles" are inevitable where ever you find humans. Is polygamy the cause of our economic downturn or insecurities all around?

You still haven't given any reasonable point as to why polygamy is a sin.

Mind you, virginity has absolutely noting to do with being morally upright or being right in the sight of God.

MaxInDHouse:

So how many polygamists do you find in his church?

None that I know of.

Scatterscatter:

"Troubles" are inevitable where ever you find humans. Is polygamy the cause of our economic downturn or insecurities all around?

Well if you don't know get it right in your mind today that POLYGAMY is the source of most evil in the world today!

Scatterscatter:

You still haven't given any reasonable point as to why polygamy is a sin.

I'm not the one who spoke against it, Jesus of Nazareth did!

Scatterscatter:

Mind you, virginity has absolutely noting to do with being morally upright or being right in the sight of God.

Of course it has everything to do with it, you only need to study God's word thoroughly not just reading it! Proverbs 2:1-5

LordIsaac:

None that I know of.

Well Kumuyi was once a JW so he knew that polygamists have no place in God's kingdom.
As regards ancient servants of God who were polygamists during their life time they will be resurrected as singles because death ends there former marriages, then they have to submit to what God's only begotten son taught us about Paradise!

*Disclaimer*

The attention of the Presbyterian Church of Nigeria has been drawn to a post made by one *Rev. Nkanor Okon* on his subjective thought on the issue of polygamy.

*We hereby categorically state that the opinion expressed by him is strictly his and does not represent the teachings and beliefs of the Presbyterian Church* of Nigeria on the matter of polygamy.

The Presbyterian Church of Nigeria *affirms that marriage is a contract between one man and one woman* and this applies to both the lay members and leaders of the Church.

Let the public be properly advised and guided on this.

Rev. Dr. Nnoke Ibe
Director of Information and Public Affairs
The Presbyterian Church of Nigeria.

On behalf of the Principal Clerk
Most Rev. Dr. Miracle Ajah (PhD)

MaxInDHouse:

Well Kumuyi was once a JW so he knew that polygamists have no place in God's kingdom.
As regards ancient servants of God who were polygamists during their life time they will be resurrected as singles because death ends there former marriages, then they have to submit to what God's only begotten son taught us about Paradise!

No...he was never a JW.

MaxInDHouse:

Well if you don't know get it right in your mind today that POLYGAMY is the source of most evil in the world today!

I'm not the one who spoke against it, Jesus of Nazareth did!

Of course it has everything to do with it, you only need to study God's word thoroughly not just reading it! Proverbs 2:1-5

I learnt something a long time ago, you can't enlighten a "religious person" so there is no point discussing this further with you.

LordIsaac:

No...he was never a JW.

Guy when people want to tell you their story it's only what they choose to tell you that you'll know.
Kumuyi was once a JW but he kept it away from the public.
How do you think he was restricting his followers from doing everything that JWs don't do?
In the 80s a JW publication talked about TV and straightforward to tell all his disciples to throw away their TVs. Christmas he will not celebrate, he taught his disciples not to mingle with members of other churches only to turn them to sadists.
It's OK that's another day's STORY!

Scatterscatter:

I learnt something a long time ago, you can't enlighten a "religious person" so there is no point discussing this further with you.

What's the benefits of your so called enlightenment?

MaxInDHouse:

Guy when people want to tell you their story it's only what they choose to tell you that you'll know.
Kumuyi was once a JW but he kept it away from the public.
How do you think he was restricting his followers from doing everything that JWs don't do?
In the 80s a JW publication talked about TV and straightforward to tell all his disciples to throw away their TVs. Christmas he will not celebrate, he taught his disciples not to mingle with members of other churches only to turn them to sadists.
It's OK that's another day's STORY!

Not Pastor Kumuyi, trust me on that

LordIsaac:

Not Pastor Kumuyi, trust me on that

Mr Trust, how old are you?

MaxInDHouse:


Mr Trust, how old are you?

Probably old enough for you to call uncle, young man.

LordIsaac:

Probably old enough for you to call uncle, young man.

Good!
Do you have any of his publications in the 80s?
Because if you're old enough to be my age you should know when Kumuyi was using all the artistic impressions on our publications to print his magazines only for him to change the messenges in our books!

Even Kumuyi himself can't deny that he still has our "Reasoning From The Scriptures" in his shelf. That's a publication that JWs don't give out. Even during the days when our books were paid for this publication is kept only within JWs.
For your information, Kumuyi has a copy in his shelf!

MaxInDHouse:


Good!
Do you have any of his publications in the 80s?
Because if you're old enough to be my age you should know when Kumuyi was using all the artistic impressions on our publications to print his magazines only for him to change the messenges in our books!

Even Kumuyi himself can't deny that he still has our "Reasoning From The Scriptures" in his shelf. That's a publication that JWs don't give out. Even during the days when our books were paid for this publication is kept only within JWs.
For your information, Kumuyi has a copy in his shelf!

I do....and I've listened to him for about 30 years.

LordIsaac:

I do....and I've listened to him for about 30 years.

Well he stole artistic impressions on our books to publish those books!

MaxInDHouse:


Well he stole artistic impressions on our books to publish those books!

Stop accusing a decent man please.

LordIsaac:

Stop accusing a decent man please.

Kumuyi, a decent man!
Well maybe because you don't understand God's word, he is just a modern day Pharisee!

MaxInDHouse:


Kumuyi, a decent man!
Well maybe because you don't understand God's word, he is just a modern day Pharisee!

He is not.

LordIsaac:

He is not.

What do you know about the tenets of first century Jewish Rabbis called Pharisees?

Guy when fully competent Bible students are talking, try to learn.

Pharisees are religious leaders who makes heavy rules and put it round the neck of gullible people. They will not lift any of such rules with their own finger but furious at those who step on their man-made rules.

To start with.
Where in the Bible did God forbid makeups, Jewelries, hairstyles for women?
Where did God forbid alcoholic beverages and musical instruments?
Kumuyi has loaded those people with all these unscriptural teachings yet they're not capable of preaching and teaching with efficacy. All what they know is Kumuyi (not what's written in the Bible) and anyone not attending their church is a sinners!

Now after his inability to become Nigeria's most respected pastor he's now regretting all his useless rules, but those who has been misled by his pharisaic teachings are calling him out today!

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fortuneerondu:

Matthew 19:4 Jesus answered, “Haven't you read the scripture that says that in the beginning the Creator made people male and female?

Please how does this verse in the Bible relate to Monogamy or one man one wife? If you don't understand, ask the holy spirit for understanding and stop spewing nonsense.

Mark 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Why is wives missing in the reward?

Bringing pastor Kumuyi into your rants and blabbering is unfortunate, pastor Kumuyi like Moses made some guidelines and principles to help their followers please God, Moses era there was 10 commandments by GOD and various laws by Moses, one of those is allowing Israelites to divorce their wives and writing them divorce papers but Jesus knocked it out and pastor Kumuyi did all that to cut off all distraction from the way to heaven, tell me in the Bible that GOD commanded the use of earrings, make up, alcohol like you said, let me give you an example, you built a place very dear to you and someone came there to deface it will you allow it? GOD said we are His temples, are we supposed to deface it

MaxInDHouse:

What do you know about the tenets of first century Jewish Rabbis called Pharisees?

Guy when fully competent Bible students are talking, try to learn.

Pharisees are religious leaders who makes heavy rules and put it round the neck of gullible people. They will not lift any of such rules with their own finger but furious at those who step on their man-made rules.

To start with.
Where in the Bible did God forbid makeups, Jewelries, hairstyles for women?
Where did God forbid alcoholic beverages and musical instruments?
Kumuyi has loaded those people with all these unscriptural teachings yet they're not capable of preaching and teaching with efficacy. All what they know is Kumuyi (not what's written in the Bible) and anyone not attending their church is a sinners!

Now after his inability to become Nigeria's most respected pastor he's now regretting all his useless rules, but those who has been misled by his pharisaic teachings are calling him out today!

headSmasher:
Bringing pastor Kumuyi into your rants and blabbering is unfortunate, pastor Kumuyi like Moses made some guidelines and principles to help their followers please God, Moses era there was 10 commandments by GOD and various laws by Moses, one of those is allowing Israelites to divorce their wives and writing them divorce papers but Jesus knocked it out and pastor Kumuyi did all that to cut off all distraction from the way to heaven, tell me in the Bible that GOD commanded the use of earrings, make up, alcohol like you said, let me give you an example, you built a place very dear to you and someone came there to deface it will you allow it? GOD said we are His temples, are we supposed to deface it

If he is your "PASTOR" can you explain why he made stupid rules like forbidden hairstyles, make-ups and jewelries for women?

For your information, one of those he invited to his program is a female putting on jewelries and make-up. That's why most of his followers are now questioning his authority!

Did you read my comment or you didn't comprehend or your frustration did allow you to see it that I have address your acclaimed stupid rules?

Who are those questioning his authority, there is a crusade in Ibadan, check YouTube and see the crowd, there is difference between outreach and church, in an outreach, evangelist use every available moral non sinful ways to bring people to the knowledge of truth, remember what Paul said in 1Corithians 9: 19 - 23

MaxInDHouse:


If he is your "PASTOR" can you explain why he made stupid rules like forbidden hairstyles, make-ups and jewelries for women?

For your information, one of those he invited to his program is a female putting on jewelries and make-up. That's why most of his followers are now questioning his authority!

headSmasher:
Did you read my comment or you didn't comprehend or your frustration did allow you to see it that I have address your acclaimed stupid rules?

Who are those questioning his authority, there is a crusade in Ibadan, check YouTube and see the crowd, there is difference between outreach and church, in an outreach, evangelist use every available moral non sinful ways to bring people to the knowledge of truth, remember what Paul said in 1Corithians 9: 19 - 23

The point is Kumuyi told his disciples that Jewelries and make-ups are things of the world. Anybody can come to the gathering but asking a woman who puts on what he called "worldly" to stand before his disciples and minister!
My friend his disciples surely have a case with him because he shouldn't have invited such a woman at all in the first place talkless asking her to minister before people he himself taught that makeups and jewelries are "worldly"

MaxInDHouse:


The point is Kumuyi told his disciples that Jewelries and make-ups are things of the world. Anybody can come to the gathering but asking a woman who puts on what he called "worldly" to stand before his disciples and minister!
My friend his disciples surely have a case with him because he shouldn't have invited such a woman at all in the first place talkless asking her to minister before people he himself taught that makeups and jewelries are "worldly"

Are jewelleries and make -up from heaven? did GOD put a hole on the babies ear that will house earrings, did He put jewelleries on their neck from heaven, did He make up for them ? are you saying GOD is stupid for creating them in a specific way?

it is quite unfortunate and obvious to are not reading my comments, my comments have answered this your issue of jewelleries

headSmasher:
Are jewelleries and make -up from heaven? did GOD put a hole on the babies ear that will house earrings, did He put jewelleries on their neck from heaven, did He make up for them ? are you saying GOD is stupid for creating them in a specific way?

it is quite unfortunate and obvious to are not reading my comments, my comments have answered this your issue of jewelleries

You're still missing the point here!
But let me enlighten you on the flaws in Kumuyi's reasoning.
God created the first human pair naked {Genesis 2:25} so if you're insinuating we go about the way God created Adam and Eve then Kumuyi supposed to go about naked (without clothes)
Come on, that's no scriptural backings for setting unscriptural rules then turning away from it later because he wants more fans!
Can Deeperlife females now put on jewelries and make-ups like the female minister Kumuyi brought in?