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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy:
elampiro:
My thinking is that the current issue is because she cannot see a future with him. She is hurt. If she saw a future with him or are married, she wouldn't have done those postings. She might not have even recorded him.
This your logic no make sense at all, so because she sees a future with him, she should condone abuse that could one day end her life undecided

It doesn't matter the kind of future you're dreaming with someone, if there are red flags it's better to call its quit else you might not live to see the future. Why do you think many married folks call it quits and divorce? Or engagements gets called off?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16pm On Feb 02, 2022
eph12:
Murder suspect have been released on bail, is it rape suspect that can't be released on bail?
But Mendy was arrested and charged with offenses on 26 August and had been denied bail on three occasions since.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:29pm On Feb 02, 2022

Lastly, know that in Nigeria, abortion is a criminal offense with 14 years imprisonment. If you have sponsored one or your girlfriend has had one, go look at yourself in the mirror before you jungle justice people.

Meanwhile, just to point out that spousal rape is not criminalized in Nigeria and many countries of the world. There is nothing like rape of a spouse in Nigeria. Common sense and love guide that process. In the world, spousal rape is even a new thing. A new criminal offense. In the countries where it is criminalized, it is not treated on the same level as raping a random person. This is what I was talking about mitigation when the people involved are sexual partners.

May we be obedient citizens and pray that we don't fall into mistakes or framed by people with bad intentions towards us.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 10:30pm On Feb 02, 2022
elampiro:
My thinking is that the current issue is because she cannot see a future with him. She is hurt. If she saw a future with him or are married, she wouldn't have done those postings. She might not have even recorded him.
[color=royalblue] Which kind thinking be this?

huh[/color]

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 10:31pm On Feb 02, 2022
elampiro:
But the police questioned the girl before they arrested Greenwood. Why does it look like you are trying to create the impression that should Greenwood be acquitted, it would not be that he was innocent, but that the law was weak. Pictures and audio posted to the net alone do not make someone guilty. It still remains a one-sided account. What if also the girl had threatened him that should he walk away she would ruin his career. There are many what if ...what if ..and what if.

My thinking is that if it was a very serious rape case, Greenwood will not have been released even on bail. This is the mitigating factor I was talking about that people did not understand.
This assault happened last year or 2020, and she is just coming out with it. Omo am beginning to think Greenwood was being blackmailed to remain in the relationship cos of monetary gain, maybe he got fed up and decided to quit. But for her to be devastated the pictures and video got out, claiming her phone was hacked tells another story. Well me done activate sidon look mode for this matter, until the police finish their investigation.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Feb 02, 2022
Ellexy:
This your logic no make sense at all, so because she sees a future with him, she should condone abuse that get one day end her life undecided

It doesn't matter the kind of future you're dreaming with someone, if there are red flags it's better to call its quit else you might not live to see the future. Why do you think many married folks call it quits and divorce? Or engagements gets called off?
Have you heard of provocation? I saw one video like that when a married woman was squeezing her husband's private parts because she discovered he was dating girls. The man was at her mercy, cos na death near so. When a woman feels she owns you alone, the home is peaceful. But when there is a doubt, some women will not react, some will walk away in peace, but here are some that will ruin it all before they end it. This is why I still want to hear the whole story first.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:47pm On Feb 02, 2022
TrebleChamp:
This assault happened last year or 2020, and she is just coming out with it. Omo am beginning to think Greenwood was being blackmailed to remain in the relationship cos of monetary gain, maybe he got fed up and decided to quit. But for her to be devastated the pictures and video got out, claiming her phone was hacked tells another story. Well me done activate sidon look mode for this matter, until the police finish their investigation.
And what could have provoked the assault?

Why did Greenwood threaten to kill? Did she threaten his career with blackmail?

After the report is out, I can know if I will blame Greenwood 100%.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 10:59pm On Feb 02, 2022
popizaino:
I rate a GOAT by amount of goals he scored in a calender year and I don't also think any player has ever scored 91goals in a calender year.
That won't do sorry, he or Ronaldo can only lay claim to the GOAT title when either win the Fifa World Cup. Ronaldo is the highest goalscorer in International football, does this make him the GOAT? Definitely not in my opinion. Go and watch clips of a young Maradona, not the cocaine ravaged 1994 World Cup Maradona ooh grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 11:05pm On Feb 02, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue] Which kind thinking be this?

huh[/color]
I just weak shaa embarassed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 11:18pm On Feb 02, 2022
Never wanted to say this before but this Elampiro dull gaan. Like extremely dull!

Almost thought he was trolling at a point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 12:21am On Feb 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
Never wanted to say this before but this Elampiro dull gaan. Like extremely dull!

Almost thought he was trolling at a point.
grin grin grin Ayagayagayagayo Heeeeeeeeiiiii Ayagayagayagayo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 12:32am On Feb 03, 2022
Next time Baba Elamps say e wn reserve him comment abeg, make una no too try to engage am abeg angry angry...

The level of "proud ignorance" though, smh undecided undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by postdigger(m): 2:05am On Feb 03, 2022
Leyqute:
Person suppose frame this post for when PSG win EPL wirh Messi scoring hattrick.

Postdigger please could you help bookmark it? E go get use for future.
Epl?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:48am On Feb 03, 2022
CrystalTiger:
Next time Baba Elamps say e wn reserve him comment abeg, make una no too try to engage am abeg angry angry...

The level of "proud ignorance" though, smh undecided undecided
Bring forward an intelligent argument to counter mine. Law is not based on beer palour discussion but what the law makers of a country sit down to deliberate, vote and pass. This is why the spousal rape law is not acceptable in some countries and even new to the world.

What if you are married and your spouse denied you sex for one year, whereas he/she is doing it outside? The law will not punish him/her for adultery but the law protects him/her to deny his/her partner as long as possible. I guess this kind of power is what some countries looked at and refused to pass it. In some religions, divorce is not allowed. You do so, you live in adultery with your new spouse till death.

I say again with emphasis, law on spousal rape is a new law in the world. For tens of centuries past, it never existed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:08am On Feb 03, 2022
elampiro:
Bring forward an intelligent argument to counter mine. Law is not based on beer palour discussion but what the law makers of a country sit down to deliberate, vote and pass. This is why the spousal rape law is not acceptable in some countries and even new to the world.

What if you are married and your spouse denied you sex for one year, whereas he/she is doing it outside? The law will not punish him/her for adultery but the law protects him/her to deny his/her partner as long as possible. I guess this kind of power is what some countries looked at and refused to pass it. In some religions, divorce is not allowed. You do so, you live in adultery with your new spouse till death.

I say again with emphasis, law on spousal rape is a new law in the world. For tens of centuries past, it never existed.
[color=royalblue]Is she married to Greenwood?[/color]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:36am On Feb 03, 2022
elampiro:
And what could have provoked the assault?

Why did Greenwood threaten to kill? Did she threaten his career with blackmail?

After the report is out, I can know if I will blame Greenwood 100%.
We cannot know for sure what provoked the assault, but am sure the police would find out in their investigation. Greenwood is like many other male who feels they are the stronger version of the human race, a lot of men beat their girlfriend and wife on a regular because they are stronger. Am even sure some of the people who have castigated Greenwood here since this news broke out also beat their girlfriend and wife too. I can never justify assault or attempted rape or rape, but i will wait until the police finish its investigation and the report is released.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:41am On Feb 03, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Is she married to Greenwood?[/color]
Did the name Greenwood appear in the comment you quoted? wink

Someone brought the topic of spousal rape and we are thrashing it. In the UK, spousal rape is a crime since 2003. Another source stated 1991

But when a case is before the authority many things come into play. There might be clauses in law, precedence from recent judgments that the lawyer will argue with. Not all cases are the same and some things are mitigated by circumstances. Look below what people think in a UK survey.
...........................................

Understanding Consent In Marriage In The UK
Marital rape is a difficult concept to grasp for policymakers in the UK. It’s a slippery slope to define consent between people who are presumably in a consensual sexual relationship. The following are some alarming statistics surrounding Attitudes to Sexual Consent, according to a survey by YouGov:

- 33% of the respondents think that it’s not rape if a woman is forced into having sexual intercourse without any physical violence.
- Almost a third of men think consent is present if a woman was flirting on a date. The sex ensuing wouldn’t count as rape even if there was no explicit consent given.
- A third of men think that consent can’t be retracted during sex.
- 24% of the respondents think that long-term relationships don’t require consent for sex.
These statistics are alarming because they depict the mindset of a huge population of adults in the UK—who are part of the jury for rape cases—are unclear about what constitutes rape. These statistics show that the conceptual understanding of rape is flawed, which proves to be the biggest hurdle in the prosecution of rapists.

http://wembleysolicitors.com/blog/marital-rape-why-was-it-so-difficult-for-the-uk-to-criminal-is-a-sexual-assault-within-a-marriage/
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:47am On Feb 03, 2022
elampiro:
Did the name Greenwood appear in the comment you quoted? wink

Someone brought the topic of spousal rape and we are thrashing it. In the UK, spousal rape is a crime since 2003. Another source stated 1991

But when a case is before the authority many things come into play. There might be clauses in law, precedence from recent judgments that the lawyer will argue with. Not all cases are the same and some things are mitigated by circumstances. Look below what people think in a UK survey.
...........................................

Understanding Consent In Marriage In The UK
Marital rape is a difficult concept to grasp for policymakers in the UK. It’s a slippery slope to define consent between people who are presumably in a consensual sexual relationship. The following are some alarming statistics surrounding Attitudes to Sexual Consent, according to a survey by YouGov:

- 33% of the respondents think that it’s not rape if a woman is forced into having sexual intercourse without any physical violence.
- Almost a third of men think consent is present if a woman was flirting on a date. The sex ensuing wouldn’t count as rape even if there was no explicit consent given.
- A third of men think that consent can’t be retracted during sex.
- 24% of the respondents think that long-term relationships don’t require consent for sex.
These statistics are alarming because they depict the mindset of a huge population of adults in the UK—who are part of the jury for rape cases—are unclear about what constitutes rape. These statistics show that the conceptual understanding of rape is flawed, which proves to be the biggest hurdle in the prosecution of rapists.

http://wembleysolicitors.com/blog/marital-rape-why-was-it-so-difficult-for-the-uk-to-criminal-is-a-sexual-assault-within-a-marriage/
[color=royalblue]You are quoting texts for Marital rape, and I'm asking you if she's married to Greenwood.

I ask again

Is she married to Greenwood?[/color]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:55am On Feb 03, 2022
postdigger:
Epl?
UCL o.
My mistake. Thanks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueMann:
Must be something about that no.5 jersey, innit? cheesy


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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:42am On Feb 03, 2022
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You are quoting texts for Marital rape, and I'm asking you if she's married to Greenwood.

I ask again

Is she married to Greenwood?[/color]
In the comment you quoted, did you see Greenwood mentioned?

However in Europe, people have substituted the world 'couple' for 'marriage'. All these footballer like Pique, Ronaldo, Martial, with women and kids do you think they are married?. In situation of a court proceeding, the lawyers are going to argue they are couples. This is the modern world we live in where everything God has established is been substituted
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:51am On Feb 03, 2022
CrystalTiger:
Next time Baba Elamps say e wn reserve him comment abeg, make una no too try to engage am abeg angry angry...

The level of "proud ignorance" though, smh undecided undecided
Instead of you to thank me for opening your eyes that abortion is a criminal offense in Nigeria so that you don't fall into it. grin

Laws are not made from discussion in the beer palour or from imagination. Laws are written. In modern world, some laws are controversial. In the US the laws promote same-sex marriage as good, but in Nigeria it is a criminal offense to engage in such. Kirikiri grin

In some countries, boyfriend and girlfriend can register as civil union to enjoy all benefits as married people. etec etc.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:17am On Feb 03, 2022
grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 10:30am On Feb 03, 2022
Good morning nairalanders, please I need a quick response to this and your opinions; I rented a single room apartment on the 19th of February 2020 and if we are to count the months, my stay supposed to expire on the 19th of February (if am correct). My landlord came before the due date and said my rent expired end of January, we dragged that but due to me saying i will renew then, we ended that. Now this is 2022, she came yesterday to tell me I have this week to pack. Am I getting it wrong telling her my house rent expires on the 19th of Feb 2022 (which makes it 12months) or is that how it is counted( January ending which is 11months)? Location: Abeokuta
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 10:32am On Feb 03, 2022
Sorry for posting this here but in anyway just give your opinions. Have posted this in property section but the mod isn't pushing it to front page yet. My apology to you guys, thanks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:39am On Feb 03, 2022
Bjteensdes24:
Good morning nairalanders, please I need a quick response to this and your opinions; I rented a single room apartment on the 19th of February 2020 and if we are to count the months, my stay supposed to expire on the 19th of February (if am correct). My landlord came before the due date and said my rent expired end of January, we dragged that but due to me saying i will renew then, we ended that. Now this is 2022, she came yesterday to tell me I have this week to pack. Am I getting it wrong telling her my house rent expires on the 19th of Feb 2022 (which makes it 12months) or is that how it is counted( January ending which is 11months)? Location: Abeokuta
What is the exact wording of the rental agreement you signed?

Only in the jungle called Nigeria will a landlord give the tenant a week to pack out.

Meanwhile after last year's issue you should have been proactive and avoided having the same argument this year. The disagreement in dates should have been sorted out one way or the other during the course of the past 12 months.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 10:41am On Feb 03, 2022
afrodoc2:
What is the exact wording of the rental agreement you signed?

Only in the jungle called Nigeria will a landlord give the tenant a week to pack out.

Meanwhile after last year's issue you should have been proactive and avoided having the same argument this year. The disagreement in dates should have been sorted out one way or the other during the course of the past 12 months.
No rental agreementI just collected the receipt where the date I paid was stated (February 19)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 10:47am On Feb 03, 2022
You know, after telling that woman I will extend my stay and pay, she wasn't shouting again and said I should pay. Since I know I have my receipt stating the date, I know I have a proof in case she wants to come here again and cause any trouble
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 11:21am On Feb 03, 2022
ChristoBam:
Never wanted to say this before but this Elampiro dull gaan. Like extremely dull!

Almost thought he was trolling at a point.
Bro have some respect please, he is an elderly man.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:11pm On Feb 03, 2022
Ralf Rangnick said 'in a way, yes' when asked whether Mason Greenwood situation was a factor in Jesse Lingard not moving from Manchester United on deadline day. "We had problem with Mason Greenwood and being without a player for the time being and Club not finding agreement with another club."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:12pm On Feb 03, 2022
Rangnick on Mauricio Pochettino: "I have no idea. My full focus is on training the group right now, we have games coming up in three different competitions, I couldn't give any reasonable answer to that question, my focus is on the next couple of games, weeks and months."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:13pm On Feb 03, 2022
Ralf Rangnick says Paul Pogba will be involved for Manchester United against Middlesbrough tomorrow and 'could start'. Edinson Cavani given extra time off following international duty. Eric Bailly has ankle problem, so both out.
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