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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:43pm On Feb 08, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Iheanacho offers lots of attributes. He can cross, he can pass, he drops deep to distribute play. He presses defenders when the team is not with the ball. I see him do these more than Ighalo. Ighalo is most suited for a target man role. However, in such role, I feel Sadiq offers more presence.

When it comes to attacking space, Osimhen rules hands down, but Awoniyi against Egypt was so tidy doing it. Olayinka is on another level to Ighalo when it comes to attacking with speed.

In a nutshell, I will go with these four before Ighalo.

Coupled with the fact we are playing an offensive strategy that needs lots of work.
I think they all just have an agenda to push Ighalo to the forefront even when he is not better than what we have. Ighalo is a good guy, we all know that. Impeccable character and all. On the pitch, he is not the best we have. He is not the second or the third or even the fourth best. Name any attributes he has right now, I will call at least two strikers we have that have those attributes better than what he has.

Bullying: Osimhen, Awo, Onuachu
Pace: All except Onuachu which is debatable self
Finishing: Osimhen, Dessers, Onuachu, maybe Sadiq
Aerial prowess: All except Dessers which is debatable self
Work rate: All except Onuachu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:44pm On Feb 08, 2022
caprikon:
Bro, derbies are tricky by default.

If Okoye starts, he will be under a lot of pressure mentally due to recent events.
Resting him for this tie is for his own good.
And that's what he need to show us what he had learned, what you and everyone of us should be concerned with is our goalkeeper trainer, Agu is not it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:46pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
I think they all just have an agenda to push Ighalo to the forefront even when he is not better than what we have. Ighalo is a good guy, we all know that. Impeccable character and all. On the pitch, he is not the best we have. He is not the second or the third or even the fourth best. Name any attributes he has right now, I will call at least two strikers we have that have those attributes better than what he has.

Bullying: Osimhen, Awo, Onuachu
Pace: All except Onuachu which is debatable self
Finishing: Osimhen, Dessers, Onuachu, maybe Sadiq
Aerial prowess: All except Dessers which is debatable self
Work rate: All except Onuachu
what are you even saying, which Agenda, huh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:47pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
So I take it you did not watch Nigeria vs Cabo Verde?
remember rorh isn't the manager anymore and ighalo has always function and still functioning in a 4-4-2 system wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:47pm On Feb 08, 2022
caprikon:
Bro, derbies are tricky by default.

If Okoye starts, he will be under a lot of pressure mentally due to recent events.
Resting him for this tie is for his own good.
I don’t think this is an argument. Uzoho has shown time and time again that he is better. The reason Maduka keeps getting starts is he plays for a bigger club, Rohr preferred him, and he is foreign born and foreign born/white GKs are always preferred to local born/black GKs because of the indiscipline stereotype.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:49pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
How many times will you be told this. The system at the AFCON DID NOT FAIL. You don’t judge a system by a fluke match where you played over 30 mins with 10 men, that is unjust. Even Man City loses games with complete 11 to worse teams so who are we?
you said whathuh the match against Tunisia a fluke matchhuh

chaiii it is well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:51pm On Feb 08, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

If you play Ighalo and Osimhen upfront, who plays the creative role among the two? Remember, one strike will help prevent outnumbering in the middle.

So, one striker will have the quality to play as a ten. So who will play it, Ighalo or Osimhen?

I have never seen any of them playing such roles.
ighalo will do that remember his day's at Watford their captain Deeney comfortable did the dirty work upfront making ighalo flourish by getting the goals so I expect ighalo to do same for osimehn he try doing it against cape Verde but it their first time being together and if Eguavoen would be using 4-4-2 he would tell both what he wants
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:51pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
remember rorh isn't the manager anymore and ighalo has always function and still functioning in a 4-4-2 system wink
Abeg tell am, ah dey feel that ya feelings
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:52pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
remember rorh isn't the manager anymore and ighalo has always function and still functioning in a 4-4-2 system wink
So the lackluster display from Ighalo compared to the energetic play from Osimhen in the same game is now attributed to the coach? SMH.

Even a blind man could see that Ighalo was not on the same wavelength as Osimhen was by miles. Awo is not far behind from Osimhen. Sadiq too. Onuachu is even more prolific, albeit in a lower tier league. Do we drop them all just to make sure Ighalo gets an assured spot in the team? If that is not favoritism then what is?

By the way, if you can mention one on-pitch quality Ighalo brings that is better than what we have (excluding Osimhen) I will concede to your argument. Just one, no more.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:53pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
ighalo will do that remember his day's at Watford their captain Deeney comfortable did the dirty work upfront making ighalo flourish by getting the goals so I expect ighalo to do same for osimehn he try doing it against cape Verde but it their first time being together and if Eguavoen would be using 4-4-2 he would tell both what he wants
correct, that oyel still dey ya head
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:55pm On Feb 08, 2022
do4luv14:
so the systems he had been playing in, and still playing are 4-4-2 right,


ee be like say, you don see over feel that your feeling abi
grin grin grin odion Best day's was him playing 4-4-2 at Watford him and Troy Deeney, currently his partner in crime is Musa marega am only saying base on me not seeing ighalo on the bench if he comes to camp wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 5:56pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
ighalo will do that remember his day's at Watford their captain Deeney comfortable did the dirty work upfront making ighalo flourish by getting the goals so I expect ighalo to do same for osimehn he try doing it against cape Verde but it their first time being together and if Eguavoen would be using 4-4-2 he would tell both what he wants
We do not want to play like Watford of seven years ago. With all their “flourish”, how far did they go in the EPL? Please we don’t have space for a lazy player in our team. Instead of having one hardworker and one lazy player who will reap the fruits of the hardworker, why don’t you just have two hardworkers who will reap the fruits off each other?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:57pm On Feb 08, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
This is the height of betrayal. Mane needs to end his friendship with Salah... grin
Country over everything baby grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:58pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
ighalo will do that remember his day's at Watford their captain Deeney comfortable did the dirty work upfront making ighalo flourish by getting the goals so I expect ighalo to do same for osimehn he try doing it against cape Verde but it their first time being together and if Eguavoen would be using 4-4-2 he would tell both what he wants

This is not about telling but ability-wise. Never felt Ighalo as a support striker/creative midfielder kind of player. So, I do not find him suitable for that role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:58pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
grin grin grin odion Best day's was him playing 4-4-2 at Watford him and Troy Deeney, currently his partner in crime is Musa marega am only saying base on me not seeing ighalo on the bench if he comes to camp wink
Ah don modify the comment,

anyway, he can function in other systems too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:59pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
So the lackluster display from Ighalo compared to the energetic play from Osimhen in the same game is now attributed to the coach? SMH.

Even a blind man could see that Ighalo was not on the same wavelength as Osimhen was by miles. Awo is not far behind from Osimhen. Sadiq too. Onuachu is even more prolific, albeit in a lower tier league. Do we drop them all just to make sure Ighalo gets an assured spot in the team? If that is not favoritism then what is?

By the way, if you can mention one on-pitch quality Ighalo brings that is better than what we have (excluding Osimhen) I will concede to your argument. Just one, no more.
baba like it or not ighalo is in the team for now till he announce his retirement again and if he is in the team we would have to mention him in the squad and he won't seat on the bench that am sure of so how do we accommodate him is the option I gave up there expect if you think Onuachu and awoniyi are ahead of him in this present Squad smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 6:00pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
grin grin grin odion Best day's was him playing 4-4-2 at Watford him and Troy Deeney, currently his partner in crime is Musa marega am only saying base on me not seeing ighalo on the bench if he comes to camp wink
You do see the problem with your argument right? “Odion’s best days”, so we want to have a team structured to make a particular player score more goals at the expense of the team? We want to turn to Man U and their Ronaldo saga? At least Ronaldo will offer you a goal almost every game + excellent shooting + more fluid link up play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:01pm On Feb 08, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

This is not about telling but ability-wise. Never felt Ighalo as a support striker/creative midfielder kind of player. So, I do not find him suitable for that role.
yeah he isn't ideal for the position but can't lie to ourselves or pretend about knowing he won't make the squad after coming out of retirement and once ighalo makes the squad list he will definitely start wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 6:02pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
baba like it or not ighalo is in the team for now till he announce his retirement again and if he is in the team we would have to mention him in the squad and he won't seat on the bench that am sure of so how do we accommodate him is the option I gave up there expect if you think Onuachu and awoniyi are ahead of him in this present Squad smiley
So you want to take us back to the days when a player will hold a team bondage because of name? Well I trust our current coaches, they will want to keep their jobs. If Ighalo does not play better than the others then he will not get game time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:04pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
You do see the problem with your argument right? “Odion’s best days”, so we want to have a team structured to make a particular player score more goals at the expense of the team? We want to turn to Man U and their Ronaldo saga? At least Ronaldo will offer you a goal almost every game + excellent shooting + more fluid link up play.
so what have we be doing to accommodate Iheanacho and as long as ighalo is considered as a super Eagles player he will always be ahead of both awoniyi and Onuachu and won't seat on the bench he will start with osimehn so how do we do that if not play him upfront with osigoal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 6:04pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
yeah he isn't ideal for the position but can't lie to ourselves or pretend about knowing he won't make the squad after coming out of retirement and once ighalo makes the squad list he will definitely start wink
I don’t want to attack your personal character, but you speak like one of the people holding Nigeria bondage by choosing favoritism and name over merit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 6:06pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
so what have we be doing to accommodate Iheanacho and as long as ighalo is considered as a super Eagles player he will always be ahead of both awoniyi and Onuachu and won't seat on the bench he will start with osimehn so how do we do that if not play him upfront with osigoal.
To your Iheanacho question, I have one answer: Nigeria 1-0 Egypt.

Coaches try to accommodate Nacho because he can do that. Now what can Ighalo do? I am still waiting for your response.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:07pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
I don’t want to attack your personal character, but you speak like one of the people holding Nigeria bondage by choosing favoritism and name over merit.
grin grin grin you can attack no problem, but many on here know I never supported ighalo back into the team and now he his here in the team by the intervention of nff president so how do expect the coaches not to accommodate him into the team wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:09pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
To your Iheanacho question, I have one answer: Nigeria 1-0 Egypt.

Coaches try to accommodate Nacho because he can do that. Now what can Ighalo do? I am still waiting for your response.
but same Iheanacho was off against tunisa and I don't know what ighalo can do till the coaches show us that wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 6:14pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
baba like it or not ighalo is in the team for now till he announce his retirement again and if he is in the team we would have to mention him in the squad and he won't seat on the bench that am sure of so how do we accommodate him is the option I gave up there expect if you think Onuachu and awoniyi are ahead of him in this present Squad smiley
If Ighalo is going to make the team then Eguavoen should be sacked immediately..

we have Osimhen , Dessers , Dennis, Awoniyi , Umar Sadiq , David Okereke , Kelechi Ihenacho , Samuel Adegbenro , Simy Nwachukwu , Onuachu, Terem Moffi, Paul Mukairu e.t.c. as strikers... so anybody mentioning Ighalo's name is very ignorant of Nigerian strikers...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 6:16pm On Feb 08, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
but same Iheanacho was off against tunisa and I don't know what ighalo can do till the coaches show us that wink
Ighalo that has over 30 caps, you still don’t know what he can do? Hell, with one cap as a substitute against Tunisia, Sadiq showed us what he can do. With one first half against Egypt, Awo showed us what he can do.

Ighalo is not one new player from nowhere we are calling to see something new he can bring to the team. He is not Amoo, we all know what he can and can’t do, the same way we know he is not better than what we have.

This World Cup is set to be one of our most promising in decades. Let us not waste it by going for name over merit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:17pm On Feb 08, 2022
codemaniacs:
If Ighalo is going to make the team then Eguavoen should sacked immediately..

we have Osimhen , Dessers , Dennis, Awoniyi , Umar Sadiq , David Okereke , Kelechi Ihenacho , Samuel Adegbenro , Simy Nwachukwu , Onuachu, Terem Moffi, Paul Mukairu e.t.c. as strikers... so anybody mentioning Ighalo's name is very ignorant of Nigerian strikers...
we shouted this for months on here but eventually ighalo came back into the team and now he change his club because they prevented him for coming to afcon and he has the backing of the nff president I won't blame Eguavoen for his inclusion if he makes the squad bro wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:19pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
Ighalo that has over 30 caps, you still don’t know what he can do? Hell, with one cap as a substitute against Tunisia, Sadiq showed us what he can do. With one first half against Egypt, Awo showed us what he can do.

Ighalo is not one new player from nowhere we are calling to see something new he can bring to the team. He is not Amoo, we all know what he can and can’t do, the same way we know he is not better than what we have.

This World Cup is set to be one of our most promising in decades. Let us not waste it by going for name over merit.
I choose not to answer the question of you asking what can he bring because I never wanted him back to the squad but now odion is a member of the squad not because we want him but because the power at the glass house needs him there wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:32pm On Feb 08, 2022
drDoom3:
To your Iheanacho question, I have one answer: Nigeria 1-0 Egypt.

Coaches try to accommodate Nacho because he can do that. Now what can Ighalo do? I am still waiting for your response.
Ghana is not a game to gamble with

Osimhen will be the starter for sure ,but if you think other strikers will be ahead of ighalo then you are joking grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:45pm On Feb 08, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Ghana is not a game to gamble with

Osimhen will be the starter for sure ,but if you think other strikers will be ahead of ighalo then you are joking grin
comerade he thought we clamoured for ighalo inclusion but only if he could read the thread back when we made our displeasure known about him back to the squad na zuchyblinks suppose even they talk ighalo matter self no be us grin because na him be the campaign manager of bring back ighalo F.C grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 6:59pm On Feb 08, 2022
codemaniacs:
If Ighalo is going to make the team then Eguavoen should be sacked immediately..

we have Osimhen , Dessers , Dennis, Awoniyi , Umar Sadiq , David Okereke , Kelechi Ihenacho , Samuel Adegbenro , Simy Nwachukwu , Onuachu, Terem Moffi, Paul Mukairu e.t.c. as strikers... so anybody mentioning Ighalo's name is very ignorant of Nigerian strikers...
Truth is I think Ighalo should not be recalled. Our back ups to Osimhen are good enough.

All this pressure on Sadiq and Awoniyi does not help.
In fact, don’t be surprised if the pressure also gets to Osimhen when he returns.

My ranking of strikers are in this order: Osimhen, Iheanacho, Awoniyi, Onuacho and Dessers.

The others na "in case of emergency, break glass" type of strikers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 7:02pm On Feb 08, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Ghana is not a game to gamble with

Osimhen will be the starter for sure ,but if you think other strikers will be ahead of ighalo then you are joking grin
Until ighalo finally buries himself in disgrace una nor go gree. When Ighalo started against Cape Verde he ran around like a pregnant woman and missed 2 clear sitters...

I’m all for experience but it has to be backed by performance..
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