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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:49am On Feb 13, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Chukwueze failed at the afcon

Who is he that they should play to his strength ?

Even Egypt is not playing Liverpool type of football to suit salah

Bro, you got to understand that some players are fan favorites and even when they play poorly, their fans will blame the rest of the team but them

Even Umar Sadiq had a better afcon than Chukwueze

Yes I said it. In our frontline, Chuks was the weakest

Don't worry, if he doesn't improve , he'll go and join his brother in Segunda Division

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:50am On Feb 13, 2022
Meliforme:


List the names of the players that underperformed.

At least I can name Chukwueze without even thinking too hard

He was a BIG FLOPPPPPPPPPPP

A VERY BIG ONE

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:51am On Feb 13, 2022
andrewbaba44:

What are you celebrating here ?

Remember when I said Dennis may not score up to 15 goals this season

Okay, now..let's wait
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:52am On Feb 13, 2022
Meliforme:


Chukwueze did not fail.

The system did not play to his strengths.

Lori Iro!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 9:52am On Feb 13, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


The same Mikel many on this thread keeps complaining that we miss his midfield coordination.
Nobody had that conversation bro. Everything has been about Okoye, Nwakali, Simon and Chukwueze's poor showing. No one mentioned anything about missing Mikel Obi, stop living in denial.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:00am On Feb 13, 2022
Barryseal:

Nobody had that conversation bro. Everything has been about Okoye, Nwakali, Simon and Chukwueze's poor showing. No one mentioned anything about missing Mikel Obi, stop living in denial.
You are the only one that didn't see the mention of Mikel's name during the afcon. Perhaps due to the large number of pages you missed you decided to skip some pages cos that is the only explanation I can give to this your statement. I recall you weren't really that present here during afcon

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:00am On Feb 13, 2022
Blueelf:


Remember when I said Dennis may not score up to 15 goals this season

Okay, now..let's wait

Wetin consign Wetin you talk and this post ?

Please post where you said Dennis won’t score 15 goals and also the person you told that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 10:01am On Feb 13, 2022
Barryseal:

This shows Mikel was an average player not world class in a any shred of imagination like some would argue. I mean, just 2 years since his retirement and nobody talks about him, nobody missed him at the nation's cup, he is not remembered by analysts or sports presenters, he just vanished from everybodys memory like he was never in the national team for more than 10 years.
I just saw you mention Mikel that was when I recalled that name. I hope for his own sake he returns back to Nigeria to make some appearances on the screen, otherwise his brand will be dead and buried forever.

Mikel average? Hahahhah. The things we get to read.

His defensive midfield talent is grossly underrated..Mikel Obi has probably been our only real world class outfield player in the last 20 years..

He is one of the most intelligent and technical footballers 9ja ever produced.. I don't think you watched mikel play..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:01am On Feb 13, 2022
Blueelf:


Bro, you got to understand that some players are fan favorites and even when they play poorly, their fans will blame the rest of the team but them

Even Umar Sadiq had a better afcon than Chukwueze

Yes I said it. In our frontline, Chuks was the weakest

Don't worry, if he doesn't improve , he'll go and join his brother in Segunda Division

Calm down

Chuks wont play in segunda

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:03am On Feb 13, 2022
Blueelf:


Koulibaly over VVD

Joke of the century

What do I expect from a Guardiola fanboy

grin grin

How far bro?

I didn’t put it in order self

Put your vvd in Napoli team he won’t do better than Manolas grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:04am On Feb 13, 2022
Barryseal:

This shows Mikel was an average player not world class in a any shred of imagination like some would argue. I mean, just 2 years since his retirement and nobody talks about him, nobody missed him at the nation's cup, he is not remembered by analysts or sports presenters, he just vanished from everybodys memory like he was never in the national team for more than 10 years.
I just saw you mention Mikel that was when I recalled that name. I hope for his own sake he returns back to Nigeria to make some appearances on the screen, otherwise his brand will be dead and buried forever.

Chief Mikel is not average

How many times have you heard people talking about the great mascherano ?

Defensive midfielders aren’t celebrated like forwards

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:12am On Feb 13, 2022
oloriooko:
Iwobi played like it was his debut match and he so so impressive, didn't know he has this side of him
Wish he can sustain this form, Frank is proud of him
Alex was massive yesterday,his dribbles,link up play and pressing were top notch

The problem is that many expect iwobi to score goals always but if we observe his style of play he is not type of player. Iwobi is a typical Arsenal groomed player who style is based on simple passes and link up play which makes a core ex Arsenal’s manager wenger type of player

Alex is not that fancy and flamboyant player as many of us mistake him to be but an efficient figure when it comes to high pressing and linking the midfield to the attack. He is not a traditional winger who is expected to take on players, put in crosses or cut in to score but will say is a hybrid winger/AM who loves to drift into the middle always to link up play

Having him in a team most especially when deployed to the flank gives more advantage to the team in terms of creativity and indirectly gifts the team the luxury of playing with 2 attacking midfielders because of his nature of drifting to the middle to create chances

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:22am On Feb 13, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Chief Mikel is not average

How many times have you heard people talking about the great mascherano ?

Defensive midfielders aren’t celebrated like forwards
obi no be average player ooo

He is one who plays to instructions and tactically sound on the pitch as well. One of the few naturally gifted and intelligent players on the pitch we hv ever had

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:27am On Feb 13, 2022
charlesemeka85:
obi no be average player ooo

He is one who plays to instructions and tactically sound on the pitch as well. One of the few naturally gifted and intelligent players on the pitch we hv ever had

Chelsea British fans won’t even call him average self

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:09am On Feb 13, 2022
Brendan Rodgers saying why he needs ndidi in the defense right now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAW19787BzY

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:31am On Feb 13, 2022
13large:



Sadiq and awoniyi can never bench ighalo on current form
Which current form? In Saudi league. You sef don join mkpuru mmirites

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:33am On Feb 13, 2022
Blueelf:


Remember when I said Dennis may not score up to 15 goals this season

Okay, now..let's wait
I can imagine how your prediction of doom must be giving you serious orgasm now... SMH
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:35am On Feb 13, 2022
tongue
andrewbaba44:


Wetin consign Wetin you talk and this post ?

Please post where you said Dennis won’t score 15 goals and also the person you told that
you dey mind that one. His prediction of doom is about to come to pass. Watch him start his 'i told you so' campaign all over the thread
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:37am On Feb 13, 2022
charlesemeka85:
Alex was massive yesterday,his dribbles,link up play and pressing were top notch

The problem is that many expect iwobi to score goals always but if we observe his style of play he is not type of player. Iwobi is a typical Arsenal groomed player who style is based on simple passes and link up play which makes a core ex Arsenal’s manager wenger type of player

Alex is not that fancy and flamboyant player as many of us mistake him to be but an efficient figure when it comes to high pressing and linking the midfield to the attack. He is not a traditional winger who is expected to take on players, put in crosses or cut in to score but will say is a hybrid winger/AM who loves to drift into the middle always to link up play

Having him in a team most especially when deployed to the flank gives more advantage to the team in terms of creativity and indirectly gifts the team the luxury of playing with 2 attacking midfielders because of his nature of drifting to the middle to create chances
wow..... Everything here is absolutely right.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:38am On Feb 13, 2022
Where's this coming from?
Don't generalize by saying "NOBODY".
Mikel would have played a key role in that team while in form.
Barryseal:

This shows Mikel was an average player not world class in a any shred of imagination like some would argue. I mean, just 2 years since his retirement and nobody talks about him, nobody missed him at the nation's cup, he is not remembered by analysts or sports presenters, he just vanished from everybodys memory like he was never in the national team for more than 10 years.
I just saw you mention Mikel that was when I recalled that name. I hope for his own sake he returns back to Nigeria to make some appearances on the screen, otherwise his brand will be dead and buried forever.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:46am On Feb 13, 2022
charlesemeka85:
Alex was massive yesterday,his dribbles,link up play and pressing were top notch

The problem is that many expect iwobi to score goals always but if we observe his style of play he is not type of player. Iwobi is a typical Arsenal groomed player who style is based on simple passes and link up play which makes a core ex Arsenal’s manager wenger type of player

Alex is not that fancy and flamboyant player as many of us mistake him to be but an efficient figure when it comes to high pressing and linking the midfield to the attack. He is not a traditional winger who is expected to take on players, put in crosses or cut in to score but will say is a hybrid winger/AM who loves to drift into the middle always to link up play

Having him in a team most especially when deployed to the flank gives more advantage to the team in terms of creativity and indirectly gifts the team the luxury of playing with 2 attacking midfielders because of his nature of drifting to the middle to create chances

Well DT won't take away d fact DT he's a major shareholder in NEPA grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:58am On Feb 13, 2022
charlesemeka85:
Alex was massive yesterday,his dribbles,link up play and pressing were top notch

The problem is that many expect iwobi to score goals always but if we observe his style of play he is not type of player. Iwobi is a typical Arsenal groomed player who style is based on simple passes and link up play which makes a core ex Arsenal’s manager wenger type of player

Alex is not that fancy and flamboyant player as many of us mistake him to be but an efficient figure when it comes to high pressing and linking the midfield to the attack. He is not a traditional winger who is expected to take on players, put in crosses or cut in to score but will say is a hybrid winger/AM who loves to drift into the middle always to link up play

Having him in a team most especially when deployed to the flank gives more advantage to the team in terms of creativity and indirectly gifts the team the luxury of playing with 2 attacking midfielders because of his nature of drifting to the middle to create chances
Charles, talk true. You copy and paste this cheesy tongue

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 12:14pm On Feb 13, 2022
Joezinho:


I pray he keeps playing like this. Iwobi is doing well. He was one of the few good performers we had at the AFCON. All I know is that it'll be difficult for Dele Alli to bench Iwobi if Iwobi keeps his form. They just blew £40M for nothing.

Thing is Marcelo is a useless defender at this point in his career and with Mendy injured RM on’t have a choice. Chuks abused him well well like say he resemble Tunisian. grin grin

even if iwobi keeps this form when dele Alli comes to his height and gives the type of performance that earned him the PFA young player of the year back to back iwobi would be rooted to the bench even if he dazzle like okocha the best thing will be moving him to the wing's we want Iwobi to play but damn he won't bench dele Ali wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:30pm On Feb 13, 2022
Barryseal:

This shows Mikel was an average player not world class in a any shred of imagination like some would argue. I mean, just 2 years since his retirement and nobody talks about him, nobody missed him at the nation's cup, he is not remembered by analysts or sports presenters, he just vanished from everybodys memory like he was never in the national team for more than 10 years.
I just saw you mention Mikel that was when I recalled that name. I hope for his own sake he returns back to Nigeria to make some appearances on the screen, otherwise his brand will be dead and buried forever.


TheSuperNerd:


My Good Man, Chuks. Ofcourse you know what comes next... grin wink

Analysing this team is gonna be quite interesting as we are without our biggest gun in Osimhen and one of the most inform Wing forwards in the world in Dennis (we all know the "stories", I believe).

But you see, this team, for the first time in a long while since Mikel Obi left the scene, we have called up a natural Midfield conductor.... Kelechi Nwakali.



Looooolll.... the post above was dated January 5, 2022. This is just a part of it.


Also, When was 26th April 2021? It's Sunday yet you cannot help dropping fallacies.

Most times, people like you just come in here and cap nonsense.


Here below is the Official Uefa Champions league post on Mikel that went viral and which made Drogba drop this comment as seen in the pic shot below:

https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1386698200040488966?t=k807iJSFefiZQYMKXpX1Jw&s=19



@first bolded.... your post is literally someone saying "I didn't watch Mikel Obi" without actually admitting that he didn't watch Mikel Obi. Sacrilegious post. Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:31pm On Feb 13, 2022
Barryseal:

Nobody had that conversation bro. Everything has been about Okoye, Nwakali, Simon and Chukwueze's poor showing. No one mentioned anything about missing Mikel Obi, stop living in denial.

Many mentioned Mikel Obi. Just that you were likely not active. The whole discussion on Nwakali you mentioned there had to do with someone who could bring the kind of play Mikel used to bring to the Super Eagles.

FINITO.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:36pm On Feb 13, 2022
TheSuperNerd:







Looooolll.... the post above was dated January 5, 2022. This is just a part of it.


Also, When was 26th April 2021? It's Sunday yet you cannot help dropping fallacies.

Most times, people like you just come in here and cap nonsense.


Here below is the Official Uefa Champions league post on Mikel that went viral and which made Drogba drop this comment as seen in the pic shot below:

https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1386698200040488966?t=k807iJSFefiZQYMKXpX1Jw&s=19



@first bolded.... your post is literally someone saying "I didn't watch Mikel Obi" without actually admitting that he didn't watch Mikel Obi. Sacrilegious post. Lol


Fantastic post. Mikel Obi is such an underrated footballer but he was a master in that Makelele role.

Definitely, MIKELELE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:39pm On Feb 13, 2022
cheesy nooo
Odunayaw:
Charles, talk true. You copy and paste this cheesy tongue

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:42pm On Feb 13, 2022
Brilliant clip.

Part of the key to pulling this curling shot action off was the quick switch of play to Zaha's wing putting him one on one with a defender enabling him to use his footwork to cut into his favorite right foot and execute the strike.

Strike would have been harder to pull off if he had 2 or 3 defenders on him in a double or triple up. So Olise's diagonal long ball to Zaha was a "perfectly timed" beautiful switch of play to a less concentrated area of the field that caught the opponents a little off-shape on that wing and gave Zaha more room on the left to cut in and shoot.

Chukwueze used to execute similar strikes like this from the edge of the box on the right in his breakout Pro season at Villarreal so I hope he gets his mojo back coz his Afcon showing was really underpar.


TheGoodJoe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOU4SlUcC2E

TheSuperNerd, remember when I told you about how effective the curling shots from the wing can be against Sides that defend in a compact shape. Look at this goal by Zouma. It shows this in action. Also, the build came from a diagonal long ball.

Simon, Chukwueze, Lookman, Iwobi, should work on this. It is just the same wing cross play. Just that the cross happens with more power, towards the goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:49pm On Feb 13, 2022
Excellent post. All I have been saying on the Playmaker role from deep (CM-Playmaker/DLP) is right here.

I hope some learn this and WATCH our lads enough to tell the difference and not depend on write-ups from people who only uses Goals and Assists to rate a Playmaker. Lol

A Playmaker conducts, directs and orchestrates. Goals and Assists are bonuses to his game.

But because some feel it is always about Agenda, they keep going blind to the obvious which is easily observed through simple eye test from a standpoint of genuine neutrality.

Honestly, it's funny that they had to wait for you to bring the definition from an outside source before they finally understand when all that is here is what I have explained and even over-explained overtime. Funny lots. grin


Meliforme:
Deep-lying playmaking.

Who is a deep-lying-playmaker.
A deep-lying playmaker is a holding midfielder who specializes in ball skills such as passing, rather than defensive skills like tackling. -Wikipedia.

What are the roles of a deep-lying playmaker.
Their role is to sit in between the defense and attack, starting attacks by spraying passes in all directions. They dictate play from a rather withdrawn position when compared to modern-day number 10s .Ball retention and defensive concerns aren't major responsibilities of a deep-lying playmaker, their job is to collect the ball from defense, create space, find the players in good positions/making good runs and to make sure the ball reaches them with pin point accuracy.

What positions do deep-lying playmakers occupy on the field of play.
In 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, They occupy one of the central roles in the midfield 4, they pair the defensive midfielder in 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, 3-5-2. They also have roles in 4-3-3 depending on the coach's philosophy and style of play.

What skillsets do deep-lying playmakers possess.
Vision, creativity, technique.

How do you identify a deep-lying playmaker.
They make a high number of short passes while attempting to find space and openings to dispatch the ball forward.
Their passing accuracy is at insanely high levels.
They calm the play down and make a team tick by sending players off in right directions and getting them past pockets of space behind opposition midfielders.
You can identify them by the long passes they make to wingers and sometimes to center forwards.
Their primary concerns is in making pre-assists, that is making the pass before the final pass, They also make assists.


Wikipedia and Quora mirrored my stance and stand on the concept of a deep-lying playmaker. I lifted many paragraphs verbatim from Quora, only the first paragraph is from Wikipedia

Cc: TheG.oodJoe, The.SuperNerd, Ne.lsz, Ph.ilosopher. TheLo.neCitizen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:54pm On Feb 13, 2022
mostob:
Which current form? In Saudi league. You sef don join mkpuru mmirites



Nobi from dia Aboubakar come from to collect Afcon highest scorer

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:58pm On Feb 13, 2022
Olarenwaju Kayode scores

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:02pm On Feb 13, 2022
mostob:
Which current form? In Saudi league. You sef don join mkpuru mmirites

And a Saudi league player won the golden boot at the afcon ahead of players from the so called top leagues in Europe

This got nothing to do with ighalo form

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