₦airaland Forum

babaolofin:
Ordinarily, I wouldn't have replied your posting for reasons of lack of knowledge so as not to waste my time. You are one of the people on social media space that lack insights into political engineering of Nigeria but very loud.

You said Okorocha, Ngige, Dino and Amaechi all joined Tinubu to bring Buhari to power. You forgot Chief Tony Momoh, the money machine - Atiku, Kwankwaso, Tambuwal, Saraki and several others . You are very funny. The IBOS said it is your brother that bring Buhari to power you are here talking like kindergarten child.

The BROOM in the APC flag which is the symbol of APC political influence and machinery in Nigeria stands for the Courage, Intellect and Resilience of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu.
Tinubu is an institution and not just an individual. Abiola and Obasanjo are also institutions. Atiku is an institution but he collided with another institution (Obj). Ngige (ACN), Okorocha, Dino and Amaechi are just ordinary mere men in Nigeria. Amaechi is very courageous , he brought Rivers money to APC but he is surrounded by enemies in his region.
Without the people you mentioned, In 2015, Buhari would have still won in 2015. Without Tinubu's ACN, Buhari wouldn't have won. What befell him in 2003 , 2007 and 2011 would have happened.

The hatred of Tinubu by the IBOS is because of Buhari's coming to power and because he has become an institution. Abiola and Obasanjo suffered the same fate in the hands of the IBOS the saving grace for Abiola and Obj was the absence of Social media .

Yorubas should not bring down their great men, rather they should support them. Yorubas are the only tribe in Africa supporting others to pull their great men down .Yorubas must think.

you started like you were against my point but after reading all your said we are still on the same point and you sound like a true yoruba person .., don’t even think about it I am for Yoruba great men anytime and anyday …

BafanaBafana:
You obviously don't know northern politics

There is nothing called Northern politics. The politics in the North is about Power. It has nothing to do with political parties. I can teach you the politics of the North from known to unknown. It is the Colonial masters and Nnamdi Azikiwe that brought the Southern Nigeria into this present predicament.

Buhari does not have political structures in the North that he can transfer automatically to Osinbajo. The power brokers in the North, the traditional institutions and the Northern Radical elements must also decide the most suitable candidate to the North.

TheExclusive:
There are Igbos in Apc so what are you even talkng about. Is Rochas, Orji, Unahia, Nigige not there? So what bridge building and collaboration are you talking about? Has Apc considered any of them? What is the likelihood that if all Igbos decamp to Apc, they will be given the ticket when Apc has not even considered those that are already there.

Why will you consider someone whose health is fast deteriorating as president of the country? Does that make sense to you apart from your personal and tribal interest? This is why this country is where it is today.

You can be biased based on your interests as Yoruba which is fine by me. As usual most Nigerians always allow tribalism and sentiments to come in the way of objective reasoning when issues like these come up. I am not in any way discrediting the yorubas and their approach. I however disagree with your definition of bad politics and discrediting the Igbos.

Yet again you keep shifting goalposts and talking about irrelevancies. Who is asking all Igbos to join APC? What is the logic behind considering the Igbos there for the presidency, what is their electoral value, who will vote for them? You cannot reap where you did not sow.

Again BAT is contesting under APC. leave him alone and face or promote your candidate.
It is a known fact that no one is as tribalistic as the Igbos. I have lived in all the major geographical zones of Nigeria and I can tell you for free. The most toxic are the Igbos, Hausas are fair, the Yorubas are best. Argue with your keypad. You have consistently assumed that I am Yoruba, I have no reason to try to correct you, because to you Igbos, it is always about Igbos vs Yorubas.
BAT is the only contender so far, others are pretenders.

Igbo candidates have nothing to hope on, nothing to leverage on, no national grassroots support. That is bad politics. Where do you intend to get the support base from? The time they should have been doing that, you have been insulting others and supporting terrorists.
You called APC a devilish party, you called Rochas, Okorohausa, anyone supporting APC is maligned.

We have both APC and PDP supporters in the North and SW, do you hear them call themselves such names?
Igbos are inexperienced in national politics. Simple.

babaolofin:
I am not talking about politics alone. I am talking about everything. Yorubas are not contesting election as a Yoruba president. Shehu Yaradua won the SDP primary in South West before it was annulled by IBB. Falae cannot withstand Shehu Yaradua in South West. Those contesting election are people that have built bridges and have immense goodwill. They are men that have become institutions. The internal crisis and opposition in South West only destroy great men and make their supporters outside the South West to lose confidence in them thereby allowing opposition to penetrate.

you are talking about everything? lols,every tribe says the same thing

APC generally don cast
There still the same people
The same set of mind
Another party from youth joooooo

aspabay:
Yet again you keep shifting goalposts and talking about irrelevancies. Who is asking all Igbos to join APC? What is the logic behind considering the Igbos there for the presidency, what is their electoral value, who will vote for them? You cannot reap where you did not sow.

Again BAT is contesting under APC. leave him alone and face or promote your candidate.
It is a known fact that no one is as tribalistic as the Igbos. I have lived in all the major geographical zones of Nigeria and I can tell you for free. The most toxic are the Igbos, Hausas are fair, the Yorubas are best. Argue with your keypad. You have consistently assumed that I am Yoruba, I have no reason to try to correct you, because to you Igbos, it is always about Igbos vs Yorubas.
BAT is the only contender so far, others are pretenders.

Igbo candidates have nothing to hope on, nothing to leverage on, no national grassroots support. That is bad politics. Where do you intend to get the support base from? The time they should have been doing that, you have been insulting others and supporting terrorists.
You called APC a devilish party, you called Rochas, Okorohausa, anyone supporting APC is maligned.

We have both APC and PDP supporters in the North and SW, do you hear them call themselves such names?
Igbos are inexperienced in national politics. Simple.

Your argument is baseless and filled with sentiments and hate without objectivity. You can go on ranting.

NGpatriot:
Ode agbaya, your years of fruitless political adventures, jumping behind one babariga to the next brown envelope did not benefit your people even with all the NDDC tons of billions, derivations, massive allocations....

It's even funny when some clueless people say they prefer Osinbajo as if it really matter to us. Osinbajo or Tinubu, we don't even care, both men equals the same progressive qualities and ideologies, the same progress and development, the same vision, the same competence and dedication.


Tinubu is Osinbajo and Osinbajo is Tinubu, we don't care, we are ok with Tinubu or Osinbajo.

A tribalist and ethnic urchin. Continue to spew hate!

[quote author=TheExclusive post=110328567]Your argument is baseless and filled with sentiments and hate without objectivity. You can go on ranting.[/quote

Okay.

One day the Igbo man will have some sense

babaolofin:
There is nothing called Northern politics. The politics in the North is about Power. It has nothing to do with political parties. I can teach you the politics of the North from known to unknown. It is the Colonial masters and Nnamdi Azikiwe that brought the Southern Nigeria into this present predicament.

Buhari does not have political structures in the North that he can transfer automatically to Osinbajo. The power brokers in the North, the traditional institutions and the Northern Radical elements must also decide the most suitable candidate to the North.

K

History revisionist are here again. Yorubas via Tinubu's block sold the Speakership allocated to SW by voting Tambuwal instead of Mulikat Akande.Todsy the Speakership they are gloating about as part of the achievement of aligning with the north came at a huge financial cost,genuflecting before Northern Muslim clerics and renunciation of faith by the candidate Femi Gbajabiamila.

aspabay:
You just confirmed my sentiments, Igbos are worse at politics. Jonathan was voted in on a joint ticket with Yar'adua. Tell him to contest again and see for yourself. When Jonathan was head of state, the Igbos benefitted alot, other tribes simply kept quiet and startegize. Nobody from SW occupied number 1-4 in government, but they never cried marginalization. They went back and did their homework.

You want to know which agency is headed by Igbos? Go do your homework and stop crying like your generations have been doing.

You say the only challenge is population, does the SW has the population to single handedly win elections?
They are smarter. You ask what they have benefitted. My answer to you is NOTHING, they benefitted nothing. Are you okay with that now?

Only the north has been benefiting, so let the SW reap where they have sowed.

The SE are bad, very bad at politics. The SW has always had the upper hand and used collaborations and synergies to remain relevant. They are not cry babies.

As at today, only the SW candidate are the real contenders for Presidency, you know that. Little wonder you keep saying it's your turn.

GEEBITE:
History revisionist are here again. Yorubas via Tinubu's block sold the Speakership allocated to SW by voting Tambuwal instead of Mulikat Akande.Todsy the Speakership they are gloating about as part of the achievement of aligning with the north came at a huge financial cost,genuflecting before Northern Muslim clerics and renunciation of faith by the candidate Femi Gbajabiamila.

Gloatinf about speakership when you have the VP. You need medical checkup.

We are never about positions. We can do without it without any noise or cry about marginalization. We have done it before and can do it again.

Get the facts now or never, politics is about dialogue, collaborations and synergy building, not by insults and abuses. Know this and have sense.

Oil dey Edwin Clerk head

What power lies in the VP office really..He has been effectively caged till recent development .The speakership is more powerful in real context of the nation's politics.
Must you go gutter to make a point. Like you need that medical advice yourself. You assumed I am not Yoruba,laughable.

aspabay:
Gloatinf about speakership when you have the VP. You need medical checkup.

We are never about positions. We can do without it without any noise or cry about marginalization. We have done it before and can do it again.

Get the facts now or never, politics is about dialogue, collaborations and synergy building, not by insults and abuses. Know this and have sense.