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MaxInDHouse:
OK, we are getting somewhere now!
So you believe Jesus really walked this planet shey?
What evidence do you have to prove that because Jesus gave us just one evidence that we should look out for: The group practicing what he taught! Act 1:8

That's why i'm interested in knowing a group that's claiming Christians performing better than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

What do you mean by so you believe that Jesus Christ walked this Planet?!!
The JW Cult that you belong to is a relatively young organization compared to the real Christian groups going back to the 1st Century and even the 2nd Century Church Fathers who affirmed the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Who in their right minds ever disputes that Jesus Christ ever walked this Earth. No credible Scholar whether Christian or Secular ever does. That Jesus Christ walked the Earth is as certain as the fact that Nigeria had her independence in 1960. Do you know any sensible Nigerian historian that disputes that?

Even Achorladey never said Jesus didn't. Achorladey is quite knowledgeable. He knows these facts better than you and I am just been fair to you that the Atheist should stop bringing up unfounded claims as it is proven fact that Jesus Christ. Ever since the LORD Jesus Christ walked the Earth and ascended. The Calendar has counted A.D eversince.

The one evidence Jesus Christ gave us about false prophecy Cults/organizations/religions like Jehovah Witness, Islam, Mormon, etcetera is contained in:

Matthew 7:15-20
King James Version
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them

A Good Christian tree/Organization can not produce False teachings, false failed prophecies, Changed teachings, Beth-Sarin House&Rolls-Royce Scam by Rutherford who took over from Russell, etcetera

You belong to this false Cult tree and even though you are a nice guy with some good intention. If you don't repent and leave this Cult before it is too late. You will be cast alongside this tree into the fire.

Let's examine like the Cult WT Organization instructs us to do using their own publications to see some of their fruits that clearly shows the organization doesn't represent Jesus or the Father.


D. Russell wrote about Astrology.

i) Zion’s Watchtower, 5/01/1903, pg 3184, reprint We seriously question all the claims of Astrology; yet the following-from whatever source the suggestions come, even though of the Adversary himself-seem remarkably true to our expectations based upon the Word of the Lord, For this reason alone we present them here as follows:-“Saturn is the representative of the great motive power that has dominated the mind of man up to the present time......Saturn-God to save his Throne......Jupiter, representing law, religion and morality........Jupiter must also transfer his allegiance from grasping Saturn to the newly discovered factor that stands for universal brotherhood; namely, Uranus. When Uranus and Jupiter meet in the humane sign of Aquarius in 1914......Uranus is preparing the way for Neptune, who symbolizes Love in it’s very highest form - the fulfilling of the law.” In 1903 Jupiter will be in the Sign of Pisces-sign of the feet, or understanding.....

ii) Zion’s Watchtower, 5/15/1895, pg 1814, reprint,....system of planets....common center,-the group Pleides, And the reasonable suggestion has been made that the center may be the heavens of the heavens, the highest heaven, the throne of God.

iii) Watchtower, 6/15/1915, pg 5710, For this reason the suggestion has been made that the Pleides may represent the residence of Jehovah, the place from which he governs the universe.
iv) Creation, 1927, pg 94, The face of the deep , of course, would be toward Pleiades, which are claimed to be the habitation of Jehovah.
v) Reconciliation, 1928, pg 14....It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of the group is the dwelling place of Jehovah.

The 1914 date is based on the fall of Jerusalem in 607 B.C. during King Nebuchadnezzar’s time.
All Encyclopedias disagree with the 607 B.C. date. All historians point to a date twenty years later.
Russell got the date 1914 originally from the pyramid measurements


What does Watchtower Cult Organization says about exposing the JW Cult. It says it is not wrong for a person to expose a false religion.
I) Watchtower, 11/15/63, pg 688, 689, It is not a form of religious persecution for anyone to say and show that another religion is false. Why should anyone practice a religion unless he is convinced that it is true and right?
Scriptures:
*** Matthew 12:36-37 ***
36 I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; 37 for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.”

*** Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ***
20 “‘However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: “How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’

*** 1 John 4:1 ***
4 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

JW Organization condemns the JW Cult as that of Falsehood. The Father shows us that HE has nothing to do with the JW Cult which claims to speak in HIS name. Jesus Christ clearly warns of false prophet Cults like Jehovah witness, Islam, Mormon, etcetera. The Holy Spirit exposes them by ensuring that all their dates are exposed and that many leave the JW Cult to preserve the publications that the Cult Organization wrote by its own hands and seek to hide or destroy so as to hide the fruits of their bad tree.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

God's word promised that pure worship will erase weapons and war from the hearts of people globally. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Do you know any group of worshipers who have successfully gathered millions throughout the earth and erased military services from their hearts?

I know just one group of worshipers, they're known globally as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

MaxInDHouse hope you are ok...

Did I ask you all these?

How do you know if somebody is lying to you?
That is what I asked.

MaxInDHouse:
In a nutshell, do you believe in the existence of God?

YES....YES ...YES.

Never said otherwise

oteneaaron:
He still doesn't understand what a MYTH and ALLEOGORY mean in this concept.

The concept of a KRST or God-in-man is not unique to Christianity and has always existed way into ancient antiquity.

The Africans of ancient Egypt/Kemet have always known this truth.

No wonder everything was written in STONE.

It was as if they knew a time would come when their teachings would be stolen and given to a fictional figure who never even existed.

See the stone statue below showing Isis/Meri and the baby Horus/Iusa

Compare that to the figure of Mary and the baby Jesus.

Which came first?

He can't accept the fact that he has been deceived...

achorladey:
Seeking diversion to save the face of for your brother in Jehovah.

I don't go about looking for how to create enmity with people or seeking friends based on what the discuss or go about peddling KILL here.

Simple question you no fit answer

Jesus is a myth or real?

22jumpstreet:
He can't accept the fact that he has been deceived...

Ọnà story story story no de end. Horus ko horror ni.

Oteneaaron Present the full myths on Horus written on the stone and let's compare it to the gospels.

How did Matthew Luke John and mark get access to the stone and decode what was written on it?

RussellRutherfo:
I don't know who you are but your Horus fables and tales have been debunked severally. You are not stating anything relevant. Individuals like Michael of Inspiring Philosophy has many videos on these subjects debunking these lies plus even Atheist Scholars like Dr. Bart Erhman that the Muslims love to quote agree on the historicty of Jesus Christ. Only foolish Kemets and the likes who love to deny historical facts like the Holocaust deniers deny that Jesus Christ never came in flesh.

You have no point. Even though, I think MaxDHouse belongs to the JW Cult. This is not for debates. Even Secular scholars do not dispute the historicty of Jesus Christ.

It's good to know your own POV on this issue.

Just like I did with Max, can you kindly debunk any of the points I've laid bare earlier on this debate?

Here is summary of the points I made earlier:

Here is my own summary. - you can pick each point and prove me wrong.

Did Jesus really exist or is he just a myth?


My answer was NO - he never existed and is just a myth and these were my reasons:

1. The earliest text in the new testament was the letters of Paul, which was written a few decades after the "death" of Jesus.

But when studying the words of Paul, he never made mention to an actual literal Jesus.

He only referred to Christ-in-you, a spiritual Christ and not a physical man.

Why would he do that if Jesus actually did exist and he only died a few decades before Paul wrote his letters?

2. The first recorded Gospel, was that of Mark - and he throughout his work, he never spoke about the birth of Jesus.

More so, there is no record to show that Mark was an actual eye witness to the life and times of Jesus.

Another major problem was that the other Gospels of Mathew and Luke are basically plagarised copies of Mark.

Why would Mathew and Luke who were supposed to be eye witnesses copy almost word for word from Mark who himself was not even an eye witness?

It is also on record that the authors of the Gospel of Mathew and Luke were not really the disciples of Jesus.

So who really wrote these Gospels?

3. Why do the Gospels contradict each other if they were all eye witnesses to the life and times of Jesus?

For one, these guys saw Jesus with their own eyes and still, their stories cannot correlate - why?

A careful study of the Gospels features a different type of Jesus for every account.

If he really did exist, and these writers were eye witnesses, then surely their stories should NEVER contradict each other in the first place.

Did Jesus really exist based on archeological findings?

This is another resounding NO - till date there is no reliable archeological finding that proves Jesus actually existed.

MaxinDhouse mentioned that Josephus Flavius spoke about Jesus in the Antiquities of the Jews.

But that was debunked as well.

We found out that is was just a forgery worked on by the dubious Bishop Eusebius of Caeserra 300 years after the actual Antiquities were first written.

But Max made a u-turn and said Josephus spoke about John the baptist.

I still ask, does the mention of John Baptist now prove that Jesus actually did exist?

Another resounding NO.

So this means that there is NO actual archeological proof to show that Jesus actually did exist.

I also spoke of a Major event mentioned in the Gospels, that happened the day Jesus died - we learn that there was an eclipse, dead people were littered the streets, there was an earthquake, and the curtain in the holy of holes was ripped apart.

Till date, there is NO actual record in history that mentions the above event, even though we know that millions of people were alive at that time.

So does this also prove that Jesus existed?

Another resounding NO.


Is the life and teachings of Jesus original or are they copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt?

The answer is another resounding NO.

The story of Jesus is not unique, neither is it original.

I spoke about the Rosetta Stone that was found in the early 1800s by an officer in Napoleons army.

This Rosetta Stone has been the tool many historians and archeologists have been able to use to translate the hieroglyphics on the walls and texts from ancient Egypt.

And a careful study of the temple of Luxor in Egypt has shown that HORUS who predates the Bible and Jesus by over 2000 years, has a very uncanny life and story similar to Jesus.

Just like HORUS, Jesus was born of a virgin, born on 25th December, gave a sermon on the mount, resurrected after 3 days, etc.

So who copied who?

Obviously, the ancient Egyptian mystery religion came first and is the source from which every other religion including Christianity owes its roots.

I am very open to interjections from anyone who will prove any of my points wrong.

Please prove me wrong.

I really want to be proven wrong.

Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
LIARS everywhere!
Who are they that Max is criticizing?
Have you ever post anything worth criticizing on Nairaland ever since you're born?

job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


lost false jw mad max

you said "Who are they that Max is criticizing?" meaning you haven't criticized anyone
and in your next write you criticize me saying:

"Have you ever post anything worth criticizing on Nairaland ever since you're born?"

you so dum, aren't you

you argued for pages that you don't criticize, calling those who honestly said you do,
of being FOOLS and LIARS

and after many posts you say: "i'm not denying the fact that i do criticize people"

MaxInDHouse:
i'm not denying the fact that i do criticize people
Òpùrọ́ ń gbin ilá òníwàyó ń gbin àgbàdo sínú oko tí alábòsí dá!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

and mad max there is no bigger fool than you



false jw mad max, you so dum, and such a liar, like your father of lies the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

cornelboy:
Ọnà story story story no de end. Horus ko horror ni.

Oteneaaron Present the full myths on Horus written on the stone and let's compare it to the gospels.

How did Matthew Luke John and mark get access to the stone and decode what was written on it?

I thought I have asked you find this out for yourself.

You got access the internet don't ya?

A simple Google and YouTube would help.

Or do you want me point you to some research material you can go study yourself?

oteneaaron:
It's good to know your own POV on this issue.

Just like I did with Max, can you kindly debunk any of the points I've laid bare earlier on this debate?

Here is summary of the points I made earlier:



Please prove me wrong.

I really want to be proven wrong.

Thanks.

What's the source of where you copied these questions from?

House of Joy: Look to Jesus for Your Joy https://miheanyi..com/2022/03/look-to-jesus-for-your-joy.html

22jumpstreet:
YES....YES ...YES.
Never said otherwise

Well OP said you guys created God.
So Jesus' case has been settled now because it's Max's feelings against oteneaaron's and nothing more!

22jumpstreet:
MaxInDHouse hope you are ok...

Did I ask you all these?

How do you know if somebody is lying to you?
That is what I asked.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni go and continue your argument with others at least you have RusselRutherfo now who is ready to argue with you on the historicity of Jesus Christ.
So face him i am done with Oteneaaron's mumu research!

RussellRutherfo:
What's the source of where you copied these questions from?

OK na source of questions this one dey find again.
Wahala dey for Okpoko!

In the overall:
Some are against Jesus directly ~ they just don't want to hear anything about that name even though they can't find any tangible reason to doubt his historicity.

Some are against Jesus indirectly ~ they want to be called Jesus' disciples but when it comes to his organized group they found it really hard to agree that Jesus could have an active group practicing what he taught today.

Well i believe that without a group practicing what a teacher taught there is no evidence such teacher truly existed or perhaps there's no point in his teachings to be adhere to. Act 1:8

I present to the whole world the organization of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught today!

RussellRutherfo:
What's the source of where you copied these questions from?

I didn't "copy the questions" from anywhere.

These are conclusions from the extensive research I have done.

Are you in essence asking for references to my research material?

I am expecting a debunk of each of the points I raised.

Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
Well OP said you guys created God.
So Jesus' case has been settled now because it's Max's feelings against oteneaaron's and nothing more!

You finally answered your question by yourself!

Congratulations!

You made it!

Tobedated:
GardenOfGod i'm still patiently waiting it seems you're a smart dude i might be wrong and by your moniker a christian that why i'm curious what your say on this is please don't keep me waiting

I will & the justice to it soon

oteneaaron:
You finally answered your question by yourself!
Congratulations!
You made it!

I shouldn't be the one to answer for you that's my own conclusion regarding this argument of no practical benefits.
I have nothing against you that's why i said it's just how you and i feel about Jesus' historicity.
But since you've refused to make yourself clear on the matter it's obvious you're looking for supporting team and there's none for you because everyone here claims they believe in God even though you're saying you created yours and only 22jumpsteeet felt Jesus never existed.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, a million liars and hypocrites aren't enough to stop me from speaking boldly and confidently about Jesus of Nazareth the world's most wonderful counselor, the greatest man who ever lived!
So keep your research where it belongs: in your empty skull!

MaxInDHouse:
I shouldn't be the one to answer for you that's my own conclusion regarding this argument of no practical benefits.
I have nothing against you that's why i said it's just how you and i feel about Jesus' historicity.
But since you've refused to make yourself clear on the matter it's obvious you're looking for supporting team and there's none for you because everyone here claims they believe in God even though you're saying you created yours and only 22jumpsteeet felt Jesus never existed.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, a million liars and hypocrites aren't enough to stop me from speaking boldly and confidently about Jesus of Nazareth the world's most wonderful counselor, the greatest man who ever lived!
So keep your research where it belongs: in your empty skull!

Lol.

You still didn't show me undeniable proof that Jesus was a real figure in history who actually existed.

You still didn't show me archeological evidence to show he existed.

You still didn't explain why the Gospels contradict each other, when they are supposed to be "eye - witness" accounts.

oteneaaron:
Lol.
You still didn't show me undeniable proof that Jesus was a real figure in history who actually existed.
You still didn't show me archeological evidence to show he existed.
You still didn't explain why the Gospels contradict each other, when they are supposed to be "eye - witness" accounts.

If you want to doubt anything in life first try to think about your own ancestors, were they real or just a myth?
Remember there is no undeniable proof that your great-grandfather once lived, there's no archeological evidence and what you heard about him must surely contradicts from mouth to mouth.
So how do you prove that he truly existed?

Well you are here as one of his products.

Jesus lived that's why we have Jehovah's Witnesses globally today doing what he ordered. He himself said regarding people like you who may raise questions about his historicity:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth" Act 1:8

So after seeing people globally practicing the LOVE, JOY and PEACE Jesus Christ taught why must i be the one to force you to believe he is real? What evidence do you have that your great-grandfather once lived?

Keep your research where it belongs: in your empty skull because things of no practical benefits is worthless before intelligent beings like me!

cornelboy:
Simple question you no fit answer

Jesus is a myth or real?

Baba save the face of your brother in Jehovah . and leave simple question alone since you are not getting answer.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni go and continue your argument with others at least you have RusselRutherfo now who is ready to argue with you on the historicity of Jesus Christ.
So face him i am done with Oteneaaron's mumu research!

As usual

I am done........ Let's resume.......I am done ..... Let's resume....

That back and forth kind of thinking and discussion na your way.

22jumpstreet:
MaxInDHouse hope you are ok...

Did I ask you all these?

How do you know if somebody is lying to you?
That is what I asked.

Military intelligence officer bring your expertise here let's see how you detect LIARS.

At least we know that when you MaxInDHouse lie you deny, admit and loads of insult to it.

MaxInDHouse:
OK na source of questions this one dey find again.
Wahala dey for Okpoko!

I don't understand you. MaxInDHouse.
Address the facts I gave that clearly shows that your Cult Organization is not a Christian Organization.
As for the other guy, oteneaaron. It is obvious that what he calls "extensive research" that deny the historicty of Jesus Christ will be mere fictional fables, legends and tales when he provides the Source where he copied the questions from.

That was how in one of my discussion with a Jehovah witness who claimed that Nimrod invented Trinity. I laughed and asked him the source and he couldn't provide the source except the legend conspiracy theories he picked up from his JW cult website and other antichristian websites like those by Oneness Pentecostals who like the JW satanic shunning cult try to blaspheme the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

When I took him through to a 19th Century book by a renegade trinitarian Christian, Alexander Hislop, who wrote the fictional book of the Two Babylons from where the fable tale and legend of Nimrod inventing trinity and other trash like Horus, Isis lies like the one this gentleman tackling MaxDInHouse spread from and since the writing of that 19th century book which was a fictional write-up. Many antichristian groups like JW Cult Organization, Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals, United Church of Christ, etcetera have ran wide with putting up the fictional story of this 19th century fictional book as "facts".

No credible Scholar in his or her right frame of mind disputes that Jesus Christ walked the Earth. Only Conspiracy theorists and dim-witted "researchers" tell this tale.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ernjf_nwbk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWgqsqJGg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vtA5O5Ako



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR08QtvapM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6aOBqc9d0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8fFw-oV3w



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muM7Uk40iRE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7pZXLkOc-0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrvyjA75Vqo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZyABKBMULo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb4KIFtdRPI

oteneaaron:
I didn't "copy the questions" from anywhere.

These are conclusions from the extensive research I have done.

Are you in essence asking for references to my research material?

I am expecting a debunk of each of the points I raised.

Thanks.

Take many of the fictional points you raised and apply them to Hermes Trismegistus that you are a student of and you will see in contrast to Jesus. You believe in a fictional character while the historicty of Jesus Christ is a sure fact.

In 1614, Isaac Casaubon, a Swiss philologist, analyzed the Greek Hermetic texts for linguistic style. He concluded that the writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus were not the work of an ancient Egyptian priest but in fact dated to the second and third centuries CE.[27][28]

RussellRutherfo:
Take many of the fictional points you raised and apply them to Hermes Trismegistus that you are a student of and you will see in contrast to Jesus. You believe in a fictional character while the historicty of Jesus Christ is a sure fact.

In 1614, Isaac Casaubon, a Swiss philologist, analyzed the Greek Hermetic texts for linguistic style. He concluded that the writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus were not the work of an ancient Egyptian priest but in fact dated to the second and third centuries CE.[27][28]

If you were truly a student of ancient history, you would have known that "Hermes Trismegistus" is only a Greek recreation/reincarnation of Thoth/Tehuti who was the Egyptian god of wisdom and language.

According to ancient history Thoth/Tehuti was an Atlantean priest King who arrived at ancient Khem/Egypt after Atlantis sunk.

According to the Emerald Tablets, it was he who built the Great Pyramid of Giza and not Pharoah Kufre.

The same Toth/Tehuti/Hermes Trismegistus is also a reincarnation of Quetzalcoatl (mind my spelling) of the ancient Mayan and Aztec ultures of the Americas.

Go Figure!

oteneaaron:
If you were truly a student of ancient history, you would have known that "Hermes Trismegistus" is only a Greek recreation/reincarnation of Thoth/Tehuti who was the Egyptian god of wisdom and language.

According to ancient history Thoth/Tehuti was an Atlantean priest King who arrived at ancient Khem/Egypt after Atlantis sunk.

According to the Emerald Tablets, it was he who built the Great Pyramid of Giza and not Pharoah Kufre.

The same Toth/Tehuti/Hermes Trismegistus is also a reincarnation of Quetzalcoatl (mind my spelling) of the ancient Mayan and Aztec ultures of the Americas.

Go Figure!

So what you want us to do is leave the compassionate and high moral person of Jesus Christ whose teachings far exceeded the cultural and knowledge of any age and time for your non-existent Emerald tablets and nonsensical "Egyptian/Greek/Islamic Arabic"(no one actually knows the authenticity).

You see how cults, heretical, paganistic conspiracy religions like Islam, Jehovah witness(Russelities) are formed?!!

MaxInDHouse, you and oteneaaron are from the same camp of Satan.

RussellRutherfo:


So what you want us to do is leave the compassionate and high moral person of Jesus Christ whose teachings far exceeded the cultural and knowledge of any age and time for your non-existent Emerald tablets and nonsensical "Egyptian/Greek/Islamic Arabic"(no one actually knows the authenticity).

You see how cults, heretical, paganistic conspiracy religions like Islam, Jehovah witness(Russelities) are formed?!!

MaxInDHouse, you and oteneaaron are from the same camp of Satan.

Lol.

Say what you must.

He even claims I am from the camp of "Satan"

You are obviously not a student of Ancient History.

Do even know the true identity of the "Satan" you speak about?

Hahahahaha

I am still waiting for your debunking of my other points.

1. Show me Archeological evidence,

2. An explanation of why the Gospels contradict each other, and

3. Evidence to prove that the Gospels are "eye witness" accounts.

Thanks.

RussellRutherfo:


So what you want us to do is leave the compassionate and high moral person of Jesus Christ whose teachings far exceeded the cultural and knowledge of any age and time.

Who is asking you forgo your beliefs?

Do even know what MYTH and ALEGORIES truly connotate in the context of this debate?

You still haven't given me any evidence that proves he(Jesus) was an actual figure in history.

I am still waiting.

oteneaaron:
Lol.

Say what you must.

He even claims I am from the camp of "Satan"

You are obviously not a student of Ancient History.

Do even know the true identity of the "Satan" you speak about?

Hahahahaha

I am still waiting for your debunking of my other points.

1. Show me Archeological evidence,

2. An explanation of why the Gospels contradict each other, and

3. Evidence to prove that the Gospels are "eye witness" accounts.

Thanks.

Coming from a person whose Emerald tablets is non-existent.

RussellRutherfo:
I don't understand you. MaxInDHouse.
Address the facts I gave that clearly shows that your Cult Organization is not a Christian Organization.
As for the other guy, oteneaaron. It is obvious that what he calls "extensive research" that deny the historicty of Jesus Christ will be mere fictional fables, legends and tales when he provides the Source where he copied the questions from.

That was how in one of my discussion with a Jehovah witness who claimed that Nimrod invented Trinity. I laughed and asked him the source and he couldn't provide the source except the legend conspiracy theories he picked up from his JW cult website and other antichristian websites like those by Oneness Pentecostals who like the JW satanic shunning cult try to blaspheme the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

When I took him through to a 19th Century book by a renegade trinitarian Christian, Alexander Hislop, who wrote the fictional book of the Two Babylons from where the fable tale and legend of Nimrod inventing trinity and other trash like Horus, Isis lies like the one this gentleman tackling MaxDInHouse spread from and since the writing of that 19th century book which was a fictional write-up. Many antichristian groups like JW Cult Organization, Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals, United Church of Christ, etcetera have ran wide with putting up the fictional story of this 19th century fictional book as "facts".

No credible Scholar in his or her right frame of mind disputes that Jesus Christ walked the Earth. Only Conspiracy theorists and dim-witted "researchers" tell this tale.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ernjf_nwbk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWgqsqJGg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vtA5O5Ako



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR08QtvapM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6aOBqc9d0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8fFw-oV3w



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muM7Uk40iRE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7pZXLkOc-0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrvyjA75Vqo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZyABKBMULo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb4KIFtdRPI

I don't think you need to UNDERSTAND me as long as you can understand yourself and those you call "CHRISTIANS"