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Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:12am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
Your point shifts my focus to the future.



Now, how many women, married or not, will teach their sons to go for vasectomy when it's needed?


Food for thought.
Very true anyway it starts from all us when the time comes I will start the conversation with mine
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:13am On Mar 07, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
You are not serious, it is not a competition it is what a same responsible man will do vasectomies are reversible and it is a man's little contribution to his own healthy family life when he assists his wife and not dump everything on her hopefully if your wife chooses to have an abortion you would not quarrel or object to it since you failed to play your own part in preventing it.

When my sons come of age they will be sane enough to do the right thing.
What if I tell you that I have never seen a female condom? I have no idea what a female condom looks like. That shows that men have been playing their part for years. Many women out there don't even know their safe period.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:15am On Mar 07, 2022
pocohantas:
All the values (mostly evil) you guys have promoted. Did you wait for women to help you spread the word? Why are you now waiting for us to help una?



Lol. Enjoyment go kill the husband with all thise qualities.
Yes o, a husband who does well should be appreciated.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:17am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
What if I tell you that I have never seen a female condom? I have no idea what a female condom looks like. That shows that men have been playing their part for years. Many women out there don't even know their safe period.
Since they have been playing their part for years they should have no problem being open to vasectomy na two way thing after all
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:20am On Mar 07, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Very true anyway it starts from all us when the time comes I will start the conversation with mine
Exactly, I must hold myself to the same standards I'm expecting of others.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by cococandy(f): 10:22am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
The only problem here is that many of you won't start this sermon in your households, with your sons and brothers.
This sermon gets preached in my household.

Help us increase the volume and reach of the message. cheesy
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:24am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
What if I tell you that I have never seen a female condom? I have no idea what a female condom looks like. That shows that men have been playing their part for years. Many women out there don't even know their safe period.
As at the time when 3 condoms cost #100, one female condom was #200 and was not easily accessible too.



Like I said somewhere, women have a long way to go.



I talked to a 21year old girl some years ago about real stuff, she ran away.


I'm too blunt but my frankness is too sharp for some people.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by cococandy(f): 10:28am On Mar 07, 2022
A hysterectomy is by far way more complicated and dangerous than a vasectomy. It’s major abdominal surgery. Risk to life and limb. Long recovery. Excruciating pain. It’s a totally unnecessary procedure to be used as a birth control method.

Is your second paragraph a jab at me? Una don start now. I’m only just seeing that. Let me ignore the subtle dig. I’m not saying every woman has the same healthcare needs. It will definitely differ from person to person. I’m saying we shouldn’t be providing better access to married women than the single ones . Explain to us how being married makes one woman more deserving of reproductive healthcare than the other. I’m waiting.

Acidosis:
Uterus is uterus but how many single ladies can gladly say yes to "hysterectomy"?? You want to do what a mother of five does with her body but when the doctor tells you to remove your womb, you will run.

The world really needs more women who are realists. Unfortunately, many of you aren't. Even some acclaimed nurses who should know better (that marital status play a lot of role in healthcare) have continually sacrificed their professional practice and knowledge on the altar of gender fight/equality.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:28am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
Exactly, I must hold myself to the same standards I'm expecting of others.
Yes oo I hate hypocrisy if cannot even criticise someone because for wetin I dey guilty of shame go dey catch me

It is good to put your money where your mouth is.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:35am On Mar 07, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Yes because when women support one another incredible things happen . wink
Did you know that black women are the least paid in the world?



For the same work, a white man gets the best pay, followed by the white woman, then the black man, then the black woman who is least paid.



We African women have a long way to go and we need to buckle up. Put away all these petty nonsense and work harder for the future of our daughters.


Not only to make money for them, but to raise their chances when they start facing this big bad cold world.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:37am On Mar 07, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Since they have been playing their part for years they should have no problem being open to vasectomy na two way thing after all
LOL. You guys just love unnecessary war. Why enforce vasectomy on me when I can afford a condom? What are your motives? Be honest with yourself.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:38am On Mar 07, 2022
cococandy:
This sermon gets preached in my household.

Help us increase the volume and reach of the message. cheesy
The question is how many of them have accepted the sermon??
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:40am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
As at the time when 3 condoms cost #100, one female condom was #200 and was not easily accessible too.

Like I said somewhere, women have a long way to go.

I talked to a 21year old girl some years ago about real stuff, she ran away.

I'm too blunt but my frankness is too sharp for some people.
It is not easily accessible because of low patronage. Demand drives supply. Why should I import female condoms when many of you won't buy? You see, reality differs from illusion.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:43am On Mar 07, 2022
cococandy:
A hysterectomy is by far way more complicated and dangerous than a vasectomy. It’s major abdominal surgery. Risk to life and limb. Long recovery. Excruciating pain. It’s a totally unnecessary procedure to be used as a birth control method.

Is your second paragraph a jab at me? Una don start now. I’m only just seeing that. Let me ignore the subtle dig. I’m not saying every woman has the same healthcare needs. It will definitely differ from person to person. I’m saying we shouldn’t be providing better access to married women than the single ones . Explain to us how being married makes one woman more deserving of reproductive healthcare than the other. I’m waiting.
The perceived risk of vasectomy is high out there. So long as there are other alternatives for men, then vasectomy will always remain an unnecessary procedure.


As per the second paragraph, thank God you found the post. cheesy I don't mean any harm though. Our fight no fit end

Family planning is heavily subsidized by the federal government in Nigeria. There isn't enough to go round. In this case, no sane government will prioritize the sexual needs of single ladies over that of married women.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:43am On Mar 07, 2022
cococandy:
A hysterectomy is by far way more complicated and dangerous than a vasectomy. It’s major abdominal surgery. Risk to life and limb. Long recovery. Excruciating pain. It’s a totally unnecessary procedure to be used as a birth control method.

Is your second paragraph a jab at me? Una don start now. I’m only just seeing that. Let me ignore the subtle dig. I’m not saying every woman has the same healthcare needs. It will definitely differ from person to person. I’m saying we shouldn’t be providing better access to married women than the single ones . Explain to us how being married makes one woman more deserving of reproductive healthcare than the other. I’m waiting.
Thanks for offering this information about hysterectomy, whether partial or full.


The brain, which regulates hormone levels will still be sending oestrogen without knowing that the uterus is absent. This results in heat flashes which are very disorienting.



I think what Acidosis should have suggested is fallopian tube tying. I forgot the medical term for the procedure.

It's much safer, it can still be reversed in some cases, and nothing needs to be removed unlike hysterectomy where the uterus is removed, it's on the same painful level as caesarean section.


Omo, women dey see shege.


Any guy that says nonsense should have his mouth padlocked.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by pocohantas(f): 10:44am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
What if I tell you that I have never seen a female condom? I have no idea what a female condom looks like. That shows that men have been playing their part for years. Many women out there don't even know their safe period.
True. Some grown women do not even know how their body works. Seems like too much calculations for them. That is why I am headlining a program to educate the girl child on their menstrual cycle (hygiene, safe period and safe sex lipsrsealed). You can donate menstrual pads and cash to us. grin

Now I remember I have calls to make sef. Thank you for this reminder.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:45am On Mar 07, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Yes oo I hate hypocrisy if cannot even criticise someone because for wetin I dey guilty of shame go dey catch me

It is good to put your money where your mouth is.
Noted
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:46am On Mar 07, 2022
pocohantas:
True. Some grown women do not even know how their body works. Seems like too much calculations for them. That is why I am headlining a program to educate the girl child on their menstrual cycle (hygiene, safe period and safe sex lipsrsealed). You can donate menstrual pads and cash to us. grin

Now I remember I have calls to make sef. Thank you for this reminder.
Call me please, I hope it will come up on weekends. I'd like to participate.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:49am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
The perceived risk of vasectomy is high out there. So long as there are other alternatives for men, then vasectomy will always remain an unnecessary procedure.
It's absolutely safe and simple.


It's also reversible in most cases.

Please stop this scaremongering.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:51am On Mar 07, 2022
pocohantas:
True. Some grown women do not even know how their body works. Seems like too much calculations for them. That is why I am headlining a program to educate the girl child on their menstrual cycle (hygiene, safe period and safe sex lipsrsealed). You can donate menstrual pads and cash to us. grin

Now I remember I have calls to make sef. Thank you for this reminder.
LMAO grin grin

I have read a couple of your posts as regard the girl child. You're doing a wonderful job.

For the timely reminder, you have to call me too cheesy
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 10:52am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
It is not easily accessible because of low patronage. Demand drives supply. Why should I import female condoms when many of you won't buy? You see, reality differs from illusion.
It's seriously funny. The shape ehn, na wah.

But it's very necessary.


I think women should start designing their own condoms though.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:55am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
It's absolutely safe and simple.


It's also reversible in most cases.

Please stop this scaremongering.
That's why I used the term "perceived risk". That term plays a major role in healthcare.

Asides from that, I believe some procedures are simply unnecessary. Vasectomy may reduce unwanted pregnancies but it will definitely increase the rate and number of randy men. Have you all thought about this? And when you say you don't care, do you also realize that vasectomy would not put an end to STD? After vasectomy, randy men would still need condom for safety. It's totally unnecessary
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Acidosis(m): 10:59am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:

It's seriously funny. The shape ehn, na wah.


But it's very necessary.


I think women should start designing their own condoms though.
Now I'm curious to know more. cheesy Off to YouTube
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by cococandy(f): 11:00am On Mar 07, 2022
Tubal ligation.

And even that is more complicated than a vasectomy. Vasectomy is a 10min procedure these days. Topical anesthesia. Out in 15 mins with a bag of ice to your groin to help reduce soreness and you’re good to go.
Way better for the couple than all the female birth control drama.

They are not ready for this conversation though.

Saintmary:
Thanks for offering this information about hysterectomy, whether partial or full.


The brain, which regulates hormone levels will still be sending oestrogen without knowing that the uterus is absent. This results in heat flashes which are very disorienting.



I think what Acidosis should have suggested is fallopian tube tying. I forgot the medical term for the procedure.

It's much safer, it can still be reversed in some cases, and nothing needs to be removed unlike hysterectomy where the uterus is removed, it's on the same painful level as caesarean section.


Omo, women dey see shege.


Any guy that says nonsense should have his mouth padlocked.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 11:01am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
That's why I used the term "perceived risk". That term plays a major role in healthcare.

Asides from that, I believe some procedures are simply unnecessary. Vasectomy may reduce unwanted pregnancies but it will definitely increase the rate and number of randy men. Have you all thought about this? And when you say you don't care, do you also realize that vasectomy would not put an end to STD? After vasectomy, randy men would still need condom for safety. It's totally unnecessary
I understand you're arguing against vasectomy because you're scared of it (come to think of it, only you among several women discussing in this thread)


I don't plan to drag matters with you though.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by pocohantas(f): 11:01am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
Call me please, I hope it will come up on weekends. I'd like to participate.
Noo. It is on a weekday. Menstrual Hygiene Day is celebrated on May 28 every year. It falls on a Saturday but I can’t get school girls gathered that day, so I am moving it backwards.


Acidosis:
LMAO grin grin

I have read a couple of your posts as regard the girl child. You're doing a wonderful job.

For the timely reminder, you have to call me too cheesy
Thanks Acid. Lol, Sèun should enable a Nairaland call option. grin
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 11:04am On Mar 07, 2022
cococandy:
Tubal ligation.

And even that is more complicated than a vasectomy. Vasectomy is a 10min procedure these days. Topical anesthesia. Out in 15 mins with a bag of ice to your groin to help reduce soreness and you’re good to go.
Way better for the couple than all the female birth control drama.

They are not ready for this conversation though.
Thanks for offering the info.



I think we should drum it in the ears of female teens to expect better from their partners.


Our lives will be better when we put ourselves in other's shoes
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:07am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
LOL. You guys just love unnecessary war. Why enforce vasectomy on me when I can afford a condom? What are your motives? Be honest with yourself.
Nobody is enforcing anything on you learn to understand and stop being paranoid same you automatically assumed that people have no excuse for unwanted pregnancies same you is reading meanings to vasectomies what powers do I have to enforce such(even if I had such powers I would not because I am democrat and not an autocrat) but rather sensitise and raise awareness on it.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by Saintmary(f): 11:08am On Mar 07, 2022
pocohantas:
Noo. It is on a weekday. Menstrual Hygiene Day is celebrated on May 28 every year. It falls on a Saturday but I can’t get school girls gathered that day, so I am moving it backwards.




Thanks Acid. Lol, Sèun should enable a Nairaland call option. grin
Oh, I see.

But please let me know all the same, I just might be a able to make it.

May 27th is children's day too.


Kudos
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by cococandy(f): 11:09am On Mar 07, 2022
Acidosis:
The perceived risk of vasectomy is high out there. So long as there are other alternatives for men, then vasectomy will always remain an unnecessary procedure.


As per the second paragraph, thank God you found the post. cheesy I don't mean any harm though. Our fight no fit end

Family planning is heavily subsidized by the federal government in Nigeria. There isn't enough to go round. In this case, no sane government will prioritize the sexual needs of single ladies over that of married women.
Vasectomy is virtually risk free. It’s not an unnecessary procedure if the man getting it is in a committed relationship with a woman who’s committed to him. Condoms will be unnecessary in that case and the woman can get off hormonal birth control with its side effects.
I felt like that earlier comment about nurses was unwarranted. Moving on though…

That being said, your last paragraph in this post just highlights our whole point in this thread. That married women are given more access because they are married. You say no sane government would prioritize single women and I say it’s insane to even discriminate in the first place. The issue isn’t that there isn’t enough resources to go round, the issue is that we live in a patriarchal dystopia where a woman’s worth and respect depends on whether she has a man or not. So a married woman can get an abortion because she got pregnant “the right way” but we demonize a single woman for the same thing.

Hmm!
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:09am On Mar 07, 2022
Saintmary:
Did you know that black women are the least paid in the world?



For the same work, a white man gets the best pay, followed by the white woman, then the black man, then the black woman who is least paid.



We African women have a long way to go and we need to buckle up. Put away all these petty nonsense and work harder for the future of our daughters.


Not only to make money for them, but to raise their chances when they start facing this big bad cold world.
I know and when women keep advocating and talking about these things they tell us that we should stop and that there is equality no need for affirmative action and other policies aimed at enabling women to have a level playing field.
Re: Is It proper For Married Woman To Do Abortion? by cococandy(f): 11:11am On Mar 07, 2022
pocohantas:
True. Some grown women do not even know how their body works. Seems like too much calculations for them. That is why I am headlining a program to educate the girl child on their menstrual cycle (hygiene, safe period and safe sex lipsrsealed). You can donate menstrual pads and cash to us. grin

Now I remember I have calls to make sef. Thank you for this reminder.
Kudos mama
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