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22jumpstreet:
God is within us. Those stories is what is happening within us. It is all allegory and metaphorical....

22jumpstreet:
God pathing the red sea means we should continue to move forward, God will clear all obstacles for us..

22jumpstreet:
God promised them a Messiah that will bring peace between them and their neigbours. ..a Messiah means an anointed king or priest..

22jumpstreet:
So the Messiah will be on royal line..he will have a father who is from the tribe of Judah and a mother who must be Jewish...

22jumpstreet:
Yes, God can do miracles, ..not magic..

22jumpstreet:
That is 9:6..
7:14 is about king Ahaz.
In 9:6..God is the wonderful counselor, mighty God....that is jehovah.
Jehovah calls future king Hezekiah "the prince of peace".
It is not a messianic prophesy.
You don't really know anything...do you

KnownUnknown:
Allegory and metaphors. Got it.
Allegorical. Got it.
Now it’s no longer allegorical?
It’s literally about the specialness of the Jews now?
You called a miracle is allegorical earlier and defined God as being “within us”.
How can you stake all positions at once?!

MaxInDHouse:
if God is the wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father and you agreed that such a person could be born as a child and son? Isaiah 9:6

So why doubt that such a mighty God could be born in a miraculous way by a virgin?

KnownUnknown:
Allegory and metaphors. Got it.



Allegorical. Got it.



Now it’s no longer allegorical?



It’s literally about the specialness of the Jews now?



You called a miracle is allegorical earlier and defined God as being “within us”.

How can you stake all positions at once?!

cornelboy:
Where's God within you?
GOD lives in heaven na.
Your god is clearly not the God of the Hebrews.

You can as well say Moses never existed, the Jews never existed, Israel never existed, God didn't bring Israel out of Egypt with a mighty hand. David was never a King, he didn't kill Goliath with a stone, they're all fictions.

cornelboy:
I didn't believe because it's fiction. I believe because God exist and those things you said were myths happened.

Jesus teachings were not myths use your brain properly.

No myths will tell you that mere looking at a woman lustfully, you've committed adultery.

No myth will tell you to live a holy life.

No myths will tell you to love other as you love yourself.

No myths could prophesy and it would come to pass.

You can choose to believe that God of the universe is not real and deny His power, that's not my problem. It doesn't change anything bout His existence. But you can't just bring your opinions to a sane person and he would agree with you.

22jumpstreet:
Common, you get sense pass like that. No put yourself for MaxInDHouse level...

22jumpstreet:
They have their king who always comes from the tribe of Judah.. so somebody who is not from that tribe can't be a Messiah...
It is their story....I am only interpreting context...

22jumpstreet:
Man is made from dust..
God canot be dust.....God is the creator, he can't be part of creation...
It is not rocket science..

22jumpstreet:
Common, you get sense pass like that. No put yourself for MaxInDHouse level...

They have their king who always comes from the tribe of Judah.. so somebody who is not from that tribe can't be a Messiah...
It is their story....I am only interpreting context...

22jumpstreet:
Of course, the universe has a creator, but you see that Jesus...my dear he is just a character in a story...he is just a myth..forget what they said he said.....who heard him say those things...?

MaxInDHouse:
Prove you're wiser than MaxInDHouse by interpreting what Isaiah said and don't forget to relate everything to Ahaz or tell us how a son will be born in the midst of humans without flesh and blood (dust)

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not the most stupidest creature on this planet, how come you think a fictional character like Superman could wield so much influence from generation to generation since 2022 years ago?
Do you know of any mythical creature that has ever been so revered for thousands of years?

22jumpstreet:
What are you blabbing..start from verse 1 of chapter 7, Syria and the northern kingdom aligned together to go to the southern kingdom and change the king and put an ally there..king ahaz was afraid and God sent Isaiah to assure him that their plan will not come to pass. In other to assure him God gave him the sign of awoman with child, she will call the child Immanuel meaning God with us. So God was with him...
Read 15 and 16....
Stop taking text out of context...
In 9:6, the child has already been born...
I don't know where you got the idea it is about Jesus..

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you need to reread this verse of the Bible in any version of your choice and explain what you understand:
Isaiah 9:6

For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. NWT

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Holy Bible

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. NIV


For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” RSV

Please Sir kindly interpret what Isaiah is saying here about this promised child.
Thank you in advance!

22jumpstreet:
Of course, the universe has a creator, but you see that Jesus...my dear he is just a character in a story...he is just a myth..forget what they said he said.....who heard him say those things...?

22jumpstreet:
Lol...how old are you?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Where was God before he created heaven?

22jumpstreet:
Olodo...how does it make it true?

22jumpstreet:
The child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying...it CANT be jesus

22jumpstreet:
In (Isaiah) 9:6..God is the wonderful counselor, mighty God....that is jehovah.

cornelboy:
How did you know that God created the heaven and the earth in the beginning?
Can you prove it?
Who saw Him create the heaven and earth?

MaxInDHouse:
So lets understand this your so called allegorical stuff as in how Jehovah was born as Ahaz!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀, ÒPÒNÚ, OLÓDO!

Just present another myth whose glory, honor and splendor has lasted for thousands of years like Jesus of Nazareth the greatest man who never lived!

cornelboy:
How did you know that God created the heaven and the earth in the beginning?
Can you prove it?
Who saw Him create the heaven and earth?

cornelboy:
How did you know the universe has a creator, prove it!

MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah!

So the child who has already been born will be called~ Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace! she's?

22jumpstreet:
The child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying...it CANT be jesus

22jumpstreet:
Olodo..there are two people in that story. Jehovah and the child. Jehovah calls the child who happens to be the future king Hezekiah the prince of peace....

22jumpstreet:
Go chop shit abeg..
Stop mixing them..
The son in 7:14 is isaiahs son.
The son in 9:6 is king Hezekiah.
Got it now?

22jumpstreet:
It is too unique to be a product of random event..

22jumpstreet:
Nobody was there...I believe in a creator. This earth is not a random entity..

cornelboy:
So do you think it is the Jehovah God of the Bible that created the universe?

cornelboy:
Which of the creator, eledumare of the yorubas, Allah God of Muslims, Budda, Shiva, Jehovah God of Israel?

MaxInDHouse:
Chai see a Bible student doing it!