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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by bergs2: 8:32pm On Mar 09, 2022
Wannabenz:

Guy do you know what's 10,000 people? Lol. I think na there you go start and remember Ukraine is on the defensive so if above 10,000 soldiers of Russia has been killed while Russia has taken over some places, civilians deaths are less than 500. And if you're uptodate with the invasion map, you'll see those figures are fake. 10,000 persons no be 100 people Oo. I'm not supporting anyone, people are dying and a whole country is being destroyed. Forget this online propaganda,go and watch what's going on there. Ukraine capital city has been sorounded,the only free side there is Ukraine West.

Videos from where exactly?
The same western media?
Russia has a lot of untrained Boys Scout recruitees in this war.
Recall the Russian soldiers themselves confessed they were recruited for an exercise ( even Kremlin said so)
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Jagunlabiodua: 8:33pm On Mar 09, 2022
Who told you they has a weak military? Ukraine is advanced, can't you see their cities and military personnels. Ukraine's are soviets capable of Producing Nuclear weapons if threatened. They will finish Russia inside Ukraine.
Jackanda1:
Considering Ukraine has a weak military, we are shocked at the kind of havoc they are causing to the almighty Russian military, hence the reportage.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by AleAirHub(m): 8:33pm On Mar 09, 2022
You are 100% correct bro cool
Vado:


True. Unofficially they are doing but they have to allow Zelensky lament as if they aren’t doing anything to help. That way, Russia won’t outrightly face the US.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Jackanda1(m): 8:36pm On Mar 09, 2022
Jagunlabiodua:
Who told you they has a weak military? Ukraine is advanced, can't you see their cities and military personnels. Ukraine's are soviets capable of Producing Nuclear weapons if threatened. They will finish Russia inside Ukraine.
Compared to Russia they have a weak military. What do you think gives Putin the audacity to invade and make demands?

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by thundafire: 8:37pm On Mar 09, 2022
Comradewhy:
I think the USA are supplying Ukraine with intels,how come they are hitting the generals so easily.
Who else thinks Putin deserves this?
before na Mossad and CIA found real dirty jobs
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Jagunlabiodua: 8:56pm On Mar 09, 2022
Compared to Russia they are not weak, Russia has larger munitions and hardwares but Ukraine also has the same or even more advanced Defensive systems. They have modern air defense system taking down Russian Jet's. They have Drones for Aerial assults. Russia Army are behind Enemies Lines in this combact trying to take another man's land. If Ukraine is Armed by the US and NATO as Zelensky wants, the only way for Russia to win is resort to Nuclear weapons which Putin will never attempt. Gambled
Jackanda1:
Compared to Russia they have a weak military. What do you think gives Putin the audacity to invade and make demands?
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by nuland(m): 8:59pm On Mar 09, 2022
Putin made the wrong call. I expected Ukraine to fall in a day or 2 considering Russia's might and so-called sophistication but alas they were over hyped.
The US has been helping Kiev with Intel and maybe weapons behind the scene.
Regardless of how this invasion ends Putin's Strength and invincibility has taken a hit.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Taigaban: 9:05pm On Mar 09, 2022
Putin is just wasting human lives for nothing. He will soon pay for this crime. The Russian people will soon turn against him.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Remman(m): 9:06pm On Mar 09, 2022
hopeforcharles:

if Russia with all its military artilleries are losing this much then probably quarter of Feeble, half baked ,slightly arm-less crying Ukraine have been wiped of.
Russia has admitted that 500 troops has died while Ukraine's death toll is around 400 but seems higher all according to news. Well, power isn't by number. In history, 300 men has killed tens of thousands with just their swords and spears. But the current war is a modern one. Ukraine is obviously helped by the US intelligence as they're equiping Ukraine with the right weapon that will actually destroy Russian aircrafts and kill Russian tanks. The Russians are unable to face Ukrainians at Kyiv as the sophisticated weapons with them are hardly missing targets. The France & US's bullets are locked to kill anyone in Russian uniforms when fired. While Russian guns are still just mare AKs. You can't overpower people with higher weapons even if you're numerous.
Ukr - shoot 2 kill 2
Rus - shoot 70 kill 1

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by preciousmetals: 9:15pm On Mar 09, 2022
Even the Russian armory will finish soon and it will take them 3 months to manufacture another one which is not possible because they are going bankrupt now as we speak, mark my word, Russia will soon agree for peace talk.
bergs2:


I wonder how you take know all these if you aren't dependent on western media; because am pretty sure you are not running an independent journalism in Ukraine right now.
Russia is losing! Simple.

If you like dey fume for mouth, it yet doesn't change the reality.
Close to 14 days now, Kyiv is still standing.

Putin man! How market?

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Powersurge: 9:16pm On Mar 09, 2022
Comradewhy:
I think the USA are supplying Ukraine with intels,how come they are hitting the generals so easily.
Who else thinks Putin deserves this?

This is not a news or new discovery it's just dt y'all don't read but jump to comment on thread on Nairaland.

When CIA and other Western intelligence showed that Russia would attack, Zelensky had meeting with the west-he was physically present.

All the western countries told him they would not bring their boots (their soldiers) to Ukraine to fight for him, but should he and his pple decided to fight, they would support him with intelligence and weapons.

In addition, Britain has serious beef with Russia over killing of people by KGB in Britain over the years and Moscow's aggressive behavior towards the empire b4 now. Hence, Britain is taking the issue seriously. Britain has troops in Ukraine (the country has admitted) that are training Ukrainians military tactics and use of weaponry. Britain has supplied lethal weapons like antitank shoulder weapons amongst others and has being at the forefront of pushing global sanctions against Russia. The country might hv some of its soldiers fighting with Ukrainian army under the guise of volunteers and mercinaries.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Malory: 9:19pm On Mar 09, 2022
bergs2:


When the outcome doesn't suit your narratives, you begin shift post.
Wetin bring Ogbomosho, Sabon gari and Onitsha into the discuss?
The truth is that Russia is losing because Ukrainians are fighting together against a mad man.
Bla Bla Bla Bla
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by organicfoods(m): 9:52pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:
Another foolish western MSM propanganda, worst, it's coming from the Sun.

Since when do Major Generals go to the frontlines where the battle rages? grin Amateur propaganda.

12,000 dead like it's something you can hide easily from public view. It's only on western MSM that Ukraine is ditching out such heavy losses on the Russians when they don't have planes, no navy, major cities besieged by Russians, airspace mostly under Russian control, and the West planning to setup a Ukrainian Government in exile. Yet Ukraine is winning. undecided

Even Satan's jaws are dropping in awe at how magnificently great Western media propaganda is in telling lies. They make Lucifer look like a learner. cool
Propaganda may be part of it, but seems the Russians are been rocked by the comedian...they are giving names and pictures, figures may be doctored...Russian have released almost 500 casualties so far. Russia may achieve their aims but may be very costly..of course Ukraine will suffer most. What most people didn't realise is that Ukraine has some kind of modern army of their own and can withstand some aggression too.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Benny6944: 9:53pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:
Another foolish western MSM propanganda, worst, it's coming from the Sun.

Since when do Major Generals go to the frontlines where the battle rages? grin Amateur propaganda.

12,000 dead like it's something you can hide easily from public view. It's only on western MSM that Ukraine is ditching out such heavy losses on the Russians when they don't have planes, no navy, major cities besieged by Russians, airspace mostly under Russian control, and the West planning to setup a Ukrainian Government in exile. Yet Ukraine is winning. undecided

Even Satan's jaws are dropping in awe at how magnificently great Western media propaganda is in telling lies. They make Lucifer look like a learner. cool



you reason through your anus.

Russia keep condemning fake news, why can't they condemn this news? or deny their commanders weren't killed in combats in Ukraine or they never died or they were dead before Ukraine invasion. stop saying trash here.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Benny6944: 9:56pm On Mar 09, 2022
Wannabenz:
12,000 soldier theory is a fat lie and a propaganda. Accusing Russians of killing civilians while the civilians deaths is not up to 500 while you estimate Russian soldiers death at 12,000? Lol.

Here's the map as at today.






Ask your silly self what more than 300,000 troops of Russia is doing in another person's territory? do you expect them to take over the city without being vulnerable?
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Techguy96(m): 10:02pm On Mar 09, 2022
hopeforcharles:
Ok this is Russia's loss, Have u ever imagined Ukraine's loss?
This war is grossly underreported, if Russia with all its military artilleries are losing this much then probably quarter of Feeble, half baked ,slightly arm-less crying Ukraine have been wiped of.
This report is not very accurate, the 12 thousand are amoung those killed, injured or captured.
Not 12 thousand outrightly killed. Some Russia soldiers have also abandoned the war.
I don't see Russia defeating Ukraine in the long run.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Techguy96(m): 10:07pm On Mar 09, 2022
Powersurge:


This is not a news or new discovery it's just dt y'all don't read but jump to comment on thread on Nairaland.

When CIA and other Western intelligence showed that Russia would attack, Zelensky had meeting with the west-he was physically present.

All the western countries told him they would not bring their boots (their soldiers) to Ukraine to fight for him, but should he and his pple decided to fight, they would support him with intelligence and weapons.

In addition, Britain has serious beef with Russia over killing of people by KGB in Britain over the years and Moscow's aggressive behavior towards the empire b4 now. Hence, Britain is taking the issue seriously. Britain has troops in Ukraine (the country has admitted) that are training Ukrainians military tactics and use of weaponry. Britain has supplied lethal weapons like antitank shoulder weapons amongst others and has being at the forefront of pushing global sanctions against Russia. The country might hv some of its soldiers fighting with Ukrainian army under the guise of volunteers and mercinaries.


True, I read some Israeli soldiers are also in Ukraine but as volunteers. I won't be surprise if US soldiers are involve too.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by TenQ: 10:11pm On Mar 09, 2022
Comradewhy:
...
Who else thinks Putin deserves this?
I do!

Putin is a bully.
They drove out Ukraine (into the hands of the UAS) who could have been their best allie.
Putin thinks it is possible to win friends by aggression.

Putin should have formed an alliance with Cuba: all he needed to tell NATO is that one the very day Ukraine joins NATO, he was going to put hi own nuclear arsenal in Cuba.
QED!

Putin stupidly walked into a trap set for him.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by mfm04622: 10:15pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:
Another foolish western MSM propanganda, worst, it's coming from the Sun.

Since when do Major Generals go to the frontlines where the battle rages? grin Amateur propaganda.

12,000 dead like it's something you can hide easily from public view. It's only on western MSM that Ukraine is ditching out such heavy losses on the Russians when they don't have planes, no navy, major cities besieged by Russians, airspace mostly under Russian control, and the West planning to setup a Ukrainian Government in exile. Yet Ukraine is winning. undecided

Even Satan's jaws are dropping in awe at how magnificently great Western media propaganda is in telling lies. They make Lucifer look like a learner. cool

You are underrating Ukraine same way your hero Putin underrated Ukraine. I don't blame you. It is easy to underrate Ukraine if one consider the way Russia annexed Crimea. In just one night with minimal resistance. Part of Ukrainian Army even joined Russia in fighting their countrymen.
However, since then, US and her allies have sent weapons to Ukraine. Ukraine has also trained her soldiers. Her soldiers have also gained combat experience by fighting Russia backed militias in the 2 regions seeking to break away from Ukraine. So the Ukrainian Army Russia faced in Crimea is not the same Russia is facing now and they didn't expect it.
Russia has confirmed the death if at least 2 Generals killed in the war. Of course Ukraine can't win this war, however they never planned to win it. They plan to hold on for as long as possible and bleed the Russian Army as dry as possible while US and her allies wreck havocs on the Russian economy so that Russia won't invade another country apart from Ukraine
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by TenQ: 10:17pm On Mar 09, 2022
shogsman:
Na 18million no be 12,000 so you think Ukraine won't more than quadruple reports to boost their people's morale abi. If Russia lost 12000 men in an offensive then the whole of Ukraine army would have died by now because they're the defense
It is far much easier to defend than to attack.

The defenders choose their post...the offensive has to improvise along the way
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 10:35pm On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:


They don't want to capture the capital.. Yet a 40km convey is currently heading to Kiev.. And the Russia military has constantly Shell Kiev and is making advancement to encircled Kiev.. The only thing Putin got wrong was the level of resistance he got.. When the war started Putin said he wanted to disnazified Ukraine and demilitarized Ukraine..
Have you watched his speech that's not someone biding time to negotiate.. He told the France president marcon that he wanted the whole of Ukraine.. If Putin wanted to negotiate after taking total control of the sepretaives held cites he would have stop its advancement instead he is marching to Kiev..
And by Gods Grace he will fail

You are quoting me off context. I never said they don't want to capture the capital. If Russia want to capture the capital Kiev, it won't even take them 48hrs to do so because they have overwhelming and superior airpower and the ground troops to do it. But they are instead using delay tactics to bug down the forces in Kiev so they don't have time to reinforce the besieged Uki forces in Kharkiv, Mariupol and elsewhere. This is a very strategic war. Are you aware that the Russians opened a corridor in the west of Kiev to allow civilians to evacuate? This and more is part of the reason they are delaying a full blown assault on Kiev.

Putin never wanted the whole of Ukraine. It's just normal gibberish from western lamestream media outlets.

Yes, it would have been folly not to have included Kiev as part of the strategic target. Denazification means removing all Nazis-like elements from all echelon of Ukrainian ruling authority, and that include Kiev.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, God does not back ediots who chose to sacrifice their land as the battleground between two great powers. This is the major flaw in Zelensky's foreign policy. He could have stayed neutral like Finland and Sweden but instead allowed himself to be goaded by the west. Now they have abandoned him.

In as much as I detest war, the Ukis brought this upon themselves.

That said, I believe the negotiations will soon reach a compromise because some states in Europe are already getting tense and fed up. It's not funny anymore.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Oluwagold24: 11:46pm On Mar 09, 2022
Not even. Dragon can obliterate 50 tanks . Ukrain can never obliterate 50 of Russian tanks and the war is still on . Total casualties not up to 12,000 get u claiming 12000 Russian troops have been killed ps get your facts right

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 11:47pm On Mar 09, 2022
IamAtikulate:
I believe the number for three reasons.

1. Russian battle principle is wacked. It allows the military to suffer a lot of collateral damages unlike USA's doctrine that is anchored on minimizing it's casualities.
I would have ignored this but I feel I owe the truth a service to dispel the puerile and outright lies you posted as facts.

War doctrine is not what is written on paper, but what is practiced on the ground when reality kicks in.

Contrary to what you believe, US war doctrine is not anchor on minimizing civilian casualties, only a misinformed jingoist parrot this nonesense. US war doctrine is carpet-bombing the enemy, especially one that puts up relative resistance.

In Iraq, it took the United States and Britain three weeks to take Baghdad, and that was only achieved after carpet-bombing whole civilian populations killing hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens. The truth is bitter.

In Vietnam, it use chemical substances to destroy whole villages killing thousands of innocent women and children, yet ended up losing the war.



For example, it lost over 4.9 million soldiers just to kill 1 million Germans during WW 2. Again, it lost about over 350k soldiers to kill 70,000 Finish soldiers during the winter war.

USA lost a total of about 400,000 soldiers during the WW 2 while Russia lost nearly 5 million repelling Germans alone.

This is another ignorant assertion. Nazi Germany invaded the USSR by surprise, with more than 3 million Nazi troops, the best fighting force on the planet at the time, and in such circumstances, it's normal that they will lose more soldiers than the invading forces. Besides, Nazi-Germany and their Ukrainian collaborators committed war crimes by directly targeting and killing civilians and POWs. The battle of Stalingrad alone claimed so many lives including that of thousands of civilians. Still, it's the same USSR that ended up beaten the Germans back all the way to Berlin, a sacrifice the world is forever grateful for.

The US entered the war late and is normal they have such minimal numbers of death. Plus, never at any time did they face the kind of overwhelming ground troops presence faced by the Soviets. Standing up against 3 million plus troops is no child's play.

USA lost only 12 soldiers and 1 CIA in it's 20 years invasion of Afghan but Russia lost about 9k in it's 10 years of war against Afghans.
Now this is the greatest of the misinformation you have put up here today. USA didn't lose 12 soldiers and one CIA operatives only, what the hell? cool They lost more than twelve thousand soldiers, and that did not even include paid private military contractors. Please get your facts straight. After 20 years, they lost and simply ran home from Afghanistan with their tail wagging in between their legs, courtesy of Let's Go Brandon.


2. Russian war doctrine allows the use of nuclear threat to descalate conventional warfare. Pulling the nuclear card means Putin wants to descalate the war because he is disadvantaged but unfortunately his Nairaland zombies don't even know Russian doctrine
.

Lmao. The US have similar nuclear weapons use doctrine. Don't make me laugh. Please, read here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_for_Joint_Nuclear_Operations

Only few countries such as China and India that did not hasvea nuclear first use policy.

NATO, the US and Russia has the same or similar nuclear first use posture. Heck, the US even has a preemptive nuclear strike policy, and reserve the right to use nukes when threatened with overwhelming large scale conventional force.


3. Losing top generals means many of his soldiers will go down. During WW 2, USA lost on average 10,000 soldiers for every 1 general killed. In total, they lost 40 generals out of 1,100 and suffered about 400,000 military deaths.

For a country that entered the war late and did not even face up to half of what the USSR faced yet incurred such losses. These are flawed permutations. Besides, wars are not beans you cook on stoves. cool

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 11:51pm On Mar 09, 2022
GardenOfGod:
You must be a Russian Foreign Minister. Analysing with full certainty. grin
I'm honored to be operating from the Sambisa forest on Nairaland. cool

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 11:55pm On Mar 09, 2022
BritishNaija:


Very mistaken, and Ukraine still has their Airforce operating, And the sky is still being contested.

The sky is not being contested. Otherwise, They wouldn't be asking for a no fly zone.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 11:57pm On Mar 09, 2022
bergs2:


I wonder how you take know all these if you aren't dependent on western media; because am pretty sure you are not running an independent journalism in Ukraine right now.
Russia is losing! Simple.

If you like dey fume for mouth, it yet doesn't change the reality.
Close to 14 days now, Kyiv is still standing.

Putin man! How market?

Yeah, Russia is losing biiig time hence Zelensky is crying for a NATO imposed no fly zone and begging for planes. Keep dreaming.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 12:01am On Mar 10, 2022
nuland:
Putin made the wrong call. I expected Ukraine to fall in a day or 2 considering Russia's might and so-called sophistication but alas they were over hyped.
The US has been helping Kiev with Intel and maybe weapons behind the scene.
Regardless of how this invasion ends Putin's Strength and invincibility has taken a hit.

Baghdad with mighty US firepower supported by NATO allies did not fall for three weeks, and you expect Ukraine to fall in 2 days?

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 12:02am On Mar 10, 2022
Remman:
Russia has admitted that 500 troops has died while Ukraine's death toll is around 400 but seems higher all according to news. Well, power isn't by number. In history, 300 men has killed tens of thousands with just their swords and spears. But the current war is a modern one. Ukraine is obviously helped by the US intelligence as they're equiping Ukraine with the right weapon that will actually destroy Russian aircrafts and kill Russian tanks. The Russians are unable to face Ukrainians at Kyiv as the sophisticated weapons with them are hardly missing targets. The France & US's bullets are locked to kill anyone in Russian uniforms when fired. While Russian guns are still just mare AKs. You can't overpower people with higher weapons even if you're numerous.
Ukr - shoot 2 kill 2
Rus - shoot 70 kill 1

God save this brother from western propanganda sad

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 12:05am On Mar 10, 2022
Benny6944:




you reason through your anus.

Russia keep condemning fake news, why can't they condemn this news? or deny their commanders weren't killed in combats in Ukraine or they never died or they were dead before Ukraine invasion. stop saying trash here.

Your brain didn't tell you that this is propaganda? Well, I understand.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by ericmani: 1:08am On Mar 10, 2022
hopeforcharles:
Ok this is Russia's loss, Have u ever imagined Ukraine's loss?
This war is grossly underreported, if Russia with all its military artilleries are losing this much then probably quarter of Feeble, half baked ,slightly arm-less crying Ukraine have been wiped of.

Just yesterday the CIA quoted Russian losses to be between 2000 to 4000..Ukrainians have been quoting high figures from day one.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by lowaist101: 4:50am On Mar 10, 2022
No matter how big and powerful you, if u enter a prepared man's house carelessly, u will die carelessly!
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by GardenOfGod(m): 4:55am On Mar 10, 2022
grin grin
Appleyard:
I'm honored to be operating from the Sambisa forest on Nairaland. cool

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